Comments on: I've tweaked the way subdomains work on MetaFilter.

I've tweaked the way subdomains work on MetaFilter.

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:01:22 -0800

As I hinted at last week, I've tweaked the way subdomains work on MetaFilter. So if you really want to follow IraqFilter, ArtFilter, AppleFilter, GoogleFilter or even BatshitinsaneFilter, now you can.

By: Evstar

Evstar — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:02:21 -0800

Cool!

By: Robot Johnny

Robot Johnny — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:06:03 -0800

The web site you are accessing has experienced an unexpected error.

By: stopgap

stopgap — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:10:16 -0800

When you're on one of the tag-subdomains, the "MetaFilter" link in the upper right of the navbar works as expected, but should the logo and the "Home" link on the left go to www.metafilter.com (instead of tag.metafilter.com) as well?

By: xmutex

xmutex — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:10:24 -0800

lol robot johnny

By: LarryC

LarryC — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:11:25 -0800

Great! I had no idea the batshitinsane tag was so popular--or did you tag those posts that way?

Can we also set our preferences to not display everything except IraqFilter?

By: Rothko

Rothko — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:13:20 -0800

Matt, there's a little bit of a code bug that breaks header links.

When you visit, say, BushFilter, every link in the header (such as the Metafilter logo) and below of the variety http://www.metafilter.com/* is replaced instead with http://bush.metafilter.com/*

By: Rothko

Rothko — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:18:43 -0800

Actually, it seems to affect all of the header links, except the four in the top-right corner.

By: Sharcho

Sharcho — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:23:52 -0800

BTW: metafilter.com still returns a 302 status code instead of 301.

By: rob511

rob511 — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:29:36 -0800

Corrected link for the above: ArtFilter
Oh, and thanks, Matt!

By: Nelson

Nelson — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:35:54 -0800

Huh, it never would have occurred to me to use wildcard DNS for this instead of, you know, the URL path. Cool feature though!

By: robocop is bleeding

robocop is bleeding — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:39:24 -0800

Woot, ComicsFilter!

By: robocop is bleeding

robocop is bleeding — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:40:24 -0800

So what happens if a post is tagged 'Metatalk'?

By: killdevil

killdevil — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:42:24 -0800

Cool.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:42:52 -0800

Well Nelson, it's not simply just a tags page, it's more of a filtered view of metafilter for that tag, so all the other features are present like sorting, new links/comments, etc.

Posts tagged with metatalk or ask will die an invisible death unfortunately.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:46:00 -0800

There's a sidebar containing tags when you read a post. Maybe you could update that sidebar to point to the the appropriate subdomain? I would find such a feature awesome.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:47:20 -0800

(oh, and this is already awesome all on its own, Matt)

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:48:59 -0800

or, hah, yes, having http://not_foo.metafilter.com for blacklisting things.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:53:27 -0800

Brilliant idea. I like it!

By: scarabic

scarabic — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:56:44 -0800

hey, that's nifty!

By: nobody

nobody — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:57:07 -0800

Neat-o. It's great to see the posts sorted by date with the date-headers present. You get a much better sense of history now.

By: smackfu

smackfu — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:06:35 -0800

Wicked cool.

By: duende

duende — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:17:14 -0800

Hey, awesome.

By: furiousthought

furiousthought — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:26:15 -0800

That's frickin' sweet.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:27:37 -0800

perhaps you could hard-code tag_ask and tag_metatalk for posts tagged with those tags.

Also, what about ask? Are we going to see sex.ask.metafilter.com, for example.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:28:44 -0800

Also, matt you should not let people do this with the "NSFW" tag. If people at paypal go here it could result in you getting blocked from their system.

By: kindall

kindall — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:38:34 -0800

Awesome. And yes, please, let us exclude things. I would pay money for not_iraq.not_bush.metafilter.com.

By: cortex

cortex — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:47:42 -0800

Awesome.

And now I can get some sleep.

By: graventy

graventy — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:53:17 -0800

I can't seem to find any posts about quonsar though...for some reason.

By: fire&wings

fire&wings — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:53:21 -0800

http://bukkake.metafilter.com/, we hardly knew ye.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:53:31 -0800

and what about sites tagged www?

By: smackfu

smackfu — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:57:29 -0800

Because I am good at breaking thing -- this page doesn't have a stylesheet (in Safari):

http://bush+iraq.metafilter.com/

OTOH, I don't even think you can have pluses in domain names, so who knows what it's doing.

By: Plutor

Plutor — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:05:12 -0800

Good call todbot, and great feature Matt. Anding and oring these new domains would be cool, sure, but it's really just a meaningful url-shortener. A boolean language for navigating tags would be good even without the subdomains. But what would be a more useful feature (perhaps in conjunction with this) is RSS feeds for the tag listings.

By: Plutor

Plutor — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:06:06 -0800

I mean RSS feeds for the list of posts for a tag. I want to be able to put comics.metafilter.com in my feed reader.

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:08:44 -0800

Man why didn't anyone think of this before? How cool.

Smackfu - even mousing-over that link in Opera gives me an Illegal URL error. How about:

http://bush.iraq.metafilter.com/

Instead?

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:09:21 -0800

I don't even think you can have pluses in domain names, so who knows what it's doing.

Yeah, you can't put plus signs in subdomains so it's not really a bug, it's part of the HTTP spec.

I mean RSS feeds for the list of posts for a tag. I want to be able to put comics.metafilter.com in my feed reader.

Yeah, I'll do RSS feeds for tags, definitely. And todbot guessed right.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:10:06 -0800

Yeah, Jimbob, I could do that. Lemme fix that tonight.

By: Ufez Jones

Ufez Jones — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:25:05 -0800

Yeah, I'll do RSS feeds for tags, definitely.

Sweet. I was kicking around the idea of requesting that today. Thanks matt!

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:29:32 -0800

Nifty, but useless without a formal taxonomy for the most common types of post.

Otherwise we end up relying on the tags actually being accurate, and we all know full well that that ain't gonna happen.

The post submission page should list the top-ten classes of tag under the tag entry box, in hopes that we can get a high degree of consistency.

By: ?!

?! — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:44:59 -0800

RSS feeds for tags?! Wonderful. Thank you.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:08:51 -0800

thank you matt, looks cool

By: crunchland

crunchland — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:10:44 -0800

neat. thanks, Matt.

By: eriko

eriko — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:12:07 -0800

One of the better DNS hacks EVAR. Nicely done.

By: crunchland

crunchland — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:13:28 -0800

although, what happens if someone uses the tag "ask" or "metatalk?"

By: Plutor

Plutor — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:18:27 -0800

crunchland: "although, what happens if someone uses the tag "ask" or "metatalk?""

Asked and answered.

By: andrew cooke

andrew cooke — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:26:58 -0800

could you use this to do the bush+iraq.metafilter.com thing?

By: crunchland

crunchland — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:30:22 -0800

Heh. You don't actually expect me to read all this crap, do you, Plutor?

By: loquacious

loquacious — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:44:49 -0800

Man. I just logged in from work and suddenly there appeared at my office door these two incredibly hot hookers carrying enormous sacks of the purest Colombian blow.

Thanks, Matt!

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:45:33 -0800

(this is going to reek havoc with all the weird wildcard domain names Google has got its hands on)

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:48:32 -0800

this is going to reek havoc with all the weird wildcard domain names Google has got its hands on

Not necessarily. All the subpages still work, so quonsar.ate.my.baby.metafilter.com/mefi/45235 still works, it's just the front page that is different.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:59:12 -0800

I think the redirect is now a 301

By: mediareport

mediareport — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:06:56 -0800

Wow, Matt, this is great - something I didn't know I wanted but absolutely love now that it's here. Thanks!

fff: The post submission page should list the top-ten classes of tag under the tag entry box, in hopes that we can get a high degree of consistency.

Strong second. Matt, I can't think of a better way to help keep the taxonomy in shape than giving folks a short list of top 10 tags and a link to the top 150 page* just below the tag entry box on posting pages.

*I'd also like to re-iterate, since we no longer have the "all tags" page, that listing "all tags with greater than 20 uses" would probably be more useful to the taxonomy than using an arbitrary number like a top 150.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:11:33 -0800

What does "top ten classes of tag" mean? Ten most used tags? I guess the "class" part threw me.

I'm currently displaying every tag you've used below the posting form, if any javascript masters want to help make those useful, it'd be great if someone could send me the code to make each tag a clickable link that appends the tag list with the link you clicked (like delicious), that'd be great.

By: smackfu

smackfu — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:30:24 -0800

You could just rip off the delicious. Viva la javascript.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:44:06 -0800

thanks to my friend jason levine, we now have clickable tag adding working on the post page.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:05:37 -0800

Cool bananas.

Nifty, but useless without a formal taxonomy for the most common types of post.

I disagree, for emergent-order reasons I've blathered on about before.

I was going to suggest, but didn't, but will now, though: I think posts to the Blue should require some tags to be entered (or chosen) before posting. A link to a paragraph or two on the concept, on or offsite, would help educate those who need it, and after the first time, they're good to go, presumably.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:17:43 -0800

http://batshitinsane.metafilter.com/... finally, a web site tailored to my needs.

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:18:13 -0800

Neat.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:35:48 -0800

What does "top ten classes of tag" mean?

I think fff just meant that the top 10 or so tags are general enough to serve as "classes" of posts.

I'm currently displaying every tag you've used below the posting form

Yeah, I just saw that, but how does that help, say, a new poster keep the taxonomy useful? Wouldn't it be better to just show us the top 10 (or 50, or 150) tags used *by others* in that space?

By: mathowie

mathowie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:56:11 -0800

showing your tags is done for consistency, so if you used something in the past, you can easily find it again. I'll put the 150 popular list on there as well.

By: Chuckles

Chuckles — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:14:38 -0800

This is a really cool feature.

It would be great to clean up the tags that are actually used though. There are some hard questions, like how to separate Iraq from the Iraq Wars. There are some easy ones too, however, like adding appropriate tags to old posts on relatively clearly defined topics, and making the tag choices consistent.

For example, the issue of depleted uranium use in weapons is of some interest to me, so when a post came along that featured that topic I spent some time and pulled together previous threads on the subject of depleted uranium.

It would be great if there was a way for that work to be incorporated into the tag system. I guess I could have created a MeTa post like this:

Today we had a post on depleted uranium. Here are all the previous threads on the subject that I could find. If you know of a mefi thread on the subject that should be included in this list please add a link to it here.

Some other interested party might notice that I only searched for FPPs and there might be an appropriate AskMe question, or I might have missed a post, these could be referenced in the comments. We might also debate the appropriate reference tag for the topic. At some appropriate time an admin* could add the appropriate tag to the posts mentioned.

That might be too much noise in MeTa, but we could have another site for the specific issue - tags.metafilter.com, or something. A dedicated site has the benefit that maintaining discipline would be much easier and threads could be kept open longer - AskMe is a great example of both.

For the record, I'm not a taxonomy enthusiast, but I do value the benefits of a good system. Also, I like keyword, the idea and the name, tag is way too web 2.0 for me. I am happy enough to look past that small draw back if there is something useful about them though.

* Yes, I know 'an admin' means mathowie or jessamyn, and I know that I am suggesting more work for them. So, it might be impractical for the time being, but it is a worthwhile topic to pursue anyway, right?

By: Chuckles

Chuckles — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:21:15 -0800

Appropriate, appropriate appropriate - ARGH! sorry about that

By: quonsar

quonsar — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:02:38 -0800

http://there.appeared.at.my.office.door.these.two.incredibly.hot.hookers.carrying.enormous.sacks.of.the.purest.Colombian.blow.metafilter.com

By: taz

taz — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:31:28 -0800

Really, really nice.

Did I mention "really"? And "nice"?

By: todbot

todbot — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:47:57 -0800

And todbot guessed right. *blush*

I only thought of it because we did it at GoTo.com for the tags^Wkeywords to our bidded listings. But that was back in '98. before sponsored search was cool and googly. :)

Another URL hack I really liked that we did at Yahoo Research Labs was "yaqs.com/{insert search phrase here}" typed into your URL location bar does the requested search.

e.g. type in "yaqs.com/how many quonsars in a quonset?"

(no results, but still, it does the search. and I've been saving the quonset joke for ages)

By: fuzz

fuzz — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:05:47 -0800

This is a great pony! But it makes the old music.metafilter.com disappear. Matt, any plans to revive it one day? I'd love to see a place where we can share music and get feedback. I was disappointed that Projects doesn't accept comments.

Also, any chance of extending the tag subdomains to work with AskMeFi?

By: Plutor

Plutor — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:35:56 -0800

mediareport: "*I'd also like to re-iterate, since we no longer have the "all tags" page, that listing "all tags with greater than 20 uses" would probably be more useful to the taxonomy than using an arbitrary number like a top 150."

How is this not replacing one abitrary number with another? How does a tag somehow become deserving on its twentieth ~~birthday~~ use? Instead, I'd like to propose some sort of ratio. Any tag used on more than one-hundredth of the tagged posts. Yes, I'm replacing two arbitrary numbers with a third, but mine is both flexible and scales better.

On the other hand, we'll start getting "how does a tag end up on the tags page" MeTa threads instead of "what defines a 'new comment'?".

By: mediareport

mediareport — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:59:02 -0800

How does a tag somehow become deserving on its twentieth birthday use?

It becomes deserving on its 38th birthday now; that just seemed a little high. It leaves off a lot of tags for subjects that are popular but not super-popular. Lowering it to 20 (or whatever) uses would help systematize the taxonomy beyond the current, rather early, point at which many of us start going off in our own little tag directions.

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:00:35 -0800

This is sweet.

::bookmarks http://starwars.metafilter.com::

By: PenguinBukkake

PenguinBukkake — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:02:11 -0800

damn

By: delmoi

delmoi — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:14:37 -0800

By: Rothko

Rothko — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:29:30 -0800

Newsfilter.metafilter.com takes on a new literal meaning for those who wanted it all these years.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:41:00 -0800

WRT tagging, I mean we need some way of guiding users when they're making tag selections.

It would be stupid to have the "same topic" covered by different tags that mean the same thing: "bush" "bushfilter" "government" "usgov" "assholes" "gop" etc. could all apply to stories about the latest US Administrative scandal. Which tag is used depends entirely on the user who makes the post, and several of those tags seem equally likely to be used.

This unstructured tagging makes it impossible to ensure that all similar stories are grouped together. Someone who's looking at "bush.metafilter.com" is going to miss the Bush story that's been tagged "asshole.metafilter.com".

This is why we need some simple taxonomic advice: a set of tags that broadly define a "class" of story.

Off the top of my head, we should have:

Science Religion Politics CurrentEvents Arts Tech War Funny

Basically, a small set of tags that accurately but broadly categorize some 80+% of the posts made to MeFi. This is the only way that "subdomain tagging" can be truly useful. Without this basic structure, the entire thing becomes a near-complete crapshoot.

No one is forced to use the broad-category tags, but there should be some significant social pressure to do so.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:08:41 -0800

I think it's a cool feature that will work best if it goes 'undocumented' - i.e., some people may find it useful but I wouldn't advocate it as *the* way to browse tags. It's folksonomy, not taxonomy. However I disagree with fff on the proposed "official" taxonomy; we're not Fark, many posts belong in several or none of these categories, and we wouldn't want to water down the community.

By: todbot

todbot — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:40:22 -0800

Now it would be really cool if one could do tag negation, e.g. "Show me all posts without 'newsfilter'". Perhaps:

-newsfilter.metafilter.com

maybe something like:
if( $tag =~ /^-/" ) { whereclause .= "tag != $tag" }
if you sprechen perl.

pony?

By: quonsar

quonsar — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:10:21 -0800

I've been saving the quonset joke for ages

during most of 2002/2003 i was 'quonset_the_hut' on #mefi IRC.

By: andrew cooke

andrew cooke — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:17:51 -0800

No one is forced to use the broad-category tags, but there should be some significant social pressure to do so.

oh great. something else people will moan about.

let's just get something straight. the whole fricking point of tags is that they are flexible, emergent, probabilistic. they are not chosen by five fresh fish and his little bunch of chums in the tag police. they don't give guarantees that every particular set is complete. instead they are adaptive. they are - to coin an example that seems popular here - free market capitalism instead of planned economies.

or, as someone once said, freedom is messy.

i know that for some of us, that's upsetting. people doing their own thing instead of following little rules. not using the tag values fff would like. listening to loud music. whatever.

but, you know, the world won't end.

so take your social pressure and stick it somewhere else, please.

however.... negation would be very nice, as would multiple values. negation, particulary, goes a long way to meet what people have been asking for for a long time.

delmoi has a point, but only partially. metatalk and ask do break things, but the problem isn't that one approach is wrong, but rather that there are two different approaches using the same namespace. hence the conflict.

you could equally well get rid of the grey and the green and let people tag with "ask" and "meta" if they wanted to. at th emoment tags and the traditional site divisions are two (conflicting) ways of doing the same job. either one alone would be ok.

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:48:51 -0800

I thought there'd be more.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:22:26 -0800

The "art.metafilter.com" trick will be absolfuckinglutely useless if your post about the Warhol Foundation's generous allowance for remixing his work isn't tagged with at least the word "art." (And you should probably include "copyright.")

Tagging is only useful if you use the tags that people could be reasonably expected to search for. In all other cases it is just wanking.

I am not saying that you should be forced to abide by some arbitrary set of rules, but that it would be some goddamn smart if all y'all were to follow some clear guidelines for tagging.

In fact, it's pretty damn useless already, what with some people tagging their artsyfartsy post as "art" and others as "arts" and yet others as "artists" and "artistic" and "painting."

More and more I have to conclude that tagging is just masturbation. Spunk out a random stream of craptacular tags, especially "witty" ones, and to hell with actual usability.

By: MetaMonkey

MetaMonkey — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:05:24 -0800

Pretty damned cool.

As far as art/arts/artists etc. goes, is it not too hard to set up synonyms or associations, as some other tagging systems are starting to play with?

For example on art.metafilter.com you would get the options to 'include synonyms - arts/artists' from a given list. Though how you get the list is another question.

By: Sharcho

Sharcho — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:15:13 -0800

Actualy, I think this is kind of stupid. It totaly overloads the useful purpose of subdomains, and dosn't acomplish anything that http://metafilter.com/tagname would. So what's the point?
posted by delmoi at 8:14 AM PST on January 10

Seconded. This is not what subdomains are meant for, and it's very limited. Most people would like a customized front page but domain names place too many limits -- can't exclude (not), can't combine (and), can't unify (or), doesn't support unicode, can't add additional filters (user/date/etc., can't highlight stories, can't tweak the layout, can't use it for AskMe/MetaTalk/Projects and there's no way to add these features in a clean way later.

I think a better way to implement it would be something like news.google.com .

By: jann

jann — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:17:29 -0800

thank you.

By: deborah

deborah — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:01:00 -0800

*purr*

By: whir

whir — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:52:32 -0800

Thanks Matt, this rules.

todbot: Perhaps: -newsfilter.metafilter.com

I like the way this looks too, but the DNS RFC's specify that domains need to begin with [A-Za-z0-9]. (IIRC)

stavros: I think posts to the Blue should require some tags to be entered (or chosen) before posting. A link to a paragraph or two on the concept, on or offsite, would help educate those who need it [...]

I agree, maybe the mefi wiki page on 'tags' would be a good place to start? (It doesn't exist yet, and I'm not volunteering to create it - I'm volunteering you-all.) Seems like the wiki would be a good place for it right now since the tag system is still somewhat in flux.

Also thought I'd link in this brief discussion on user-added tags, since a system like this would maybe address some of the art.mefi issues above.

By: kindall

kindall — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:05:24 -0800

The "art.metafilter.com" trick will be absolfuckinglutely useless if your post about the Warhol Foundation's generous allowance for remixing his work isn't tagged with at least the word "art." (And you should probably include "copyright.")

You're kinda missing the point. The point is not to find every possible art-related post. If you are looking for posts about art, because you like reading about art, reading posts tagged "art" works great. It'll definitely find stuff you will be interested in reading.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:19:57 -0800

Metafilter: You're kinda missing the point.

Shoot me now.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:20:38 -0800

Metafilter: Shoot me now.

Oh fuck, my eyeballs are bleeding.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:21:01 -0800

Metafilter:

By: todbot

todbot — Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:54:39 -0800

todbot: Perhaps: -newsfilter.metafilter.com

I like the way this looks too, but the DNS RFC's specify that domains need to begin with [A-Za-z0-9]. (IIRC)

Yeah but DNS servers and their clients are notoriously bad at being restrictive with such things. For instance. I set up a domain of mine such that:
{some.dotted.search.terms}.jook.com
end up doing a search on Yahoo Search.

And for me at least: http://quonsar.ate.my.baby.jook.com/
and: http://quonsar.ate.my.-baby.jook.com/
both work.

Or even: http://-naked.-hot.coeds.jook.com/