Metafilter is ridiculous this morning (1/13/06) January 13, 2006 8:54 AM Subscribe
The Front Page this morning is ridiculous. A post about a non-existent blog asking for money. A post about nothing! (And crappy nothing to boot.) A newsfilter post about, well, news, that's supposed to be outrageous somehow. And then a post that 1) leads with a previous MeFi post, 2) is mostly predicated on one picture. If you don't have the makings for a good FPP, you don't. It's ok, you can post something good when you come across something good.
Just this Wednesday, I complained that no one had posted anything all morning.
posted by smackfu at 9:09 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by smackfu at 9:09 AM on January 13, 2006
Eh. YMMV.
Although I gotta say, calling that one a "post about nothing!" somehow makes it sound even more exciting and purposeful than it is.
posted by soyjoy at 9:10 AM on January 13, 2006
Although I gotta say, calling that one a "post about nothing!" somehow makes it sound even more exciting and purposeful than it is.
posted by soyjoy at 9:10 AM on January 13, 2006
Just this Wednesday, I complained that no one had posted anything all morning.
So, it's your fault?
posted by Kirth Gerson at 9:11 AM on January 13, 2006
So, it's your fault?
posted by Kirth Gerson at 9:11 AM on January 13, 2006
singing
You take the good, you take the bad,
You take 'em both and there you have
The Facts of Life,
The Facts of Life.
There's a time you gotta go and show
You're growin' now, you know about
The Facts of Life,
The Facts of Life.
When the world never seems
To be livin' up to your dreams,
And suddenly you're finding out
The Facts of Life are all about you.
(All about you.)
You-u-u-u.
(A-ll about you.)
It takes a lot to get 'em right,
But you're learnin' the facts of life.
Learnin' the facts of life,
Learnin' the facts of life,
Learnin' the facts of liii-iiife!
This message brought to you by Jo Polniaczek and "Tootie" Ramsey
posted by Dr. Wu at 9:12 AM on January 13, 2006
You take the good, you take the bad,
You take 'em both and there you have
The Facts of Life,
The Facts of Life.
There's a time you gotta go and show
You're growin' now, you know about
The Facts of Life,
The Facts of Life.
When the world never seems
To be livin' up to your dreams,
And suddenly you're finding out
The Facts of Life are all about you.
(All about you.)
You-u-u-u.
(A-ll about you.)
It takes a lot to get 'em right,
But you're learnin' the facts of life.
Learnin' the facts of life,
Learnin' the facts of life,
Learnin' the facts of liii-iiife!
This message brought to you by Jo Polniaczek and "Tootie" Ramsey
posted by Dr. Wu at 9:12 AM on January 13, 2006
With any luck, Jason Voorhees will show up and kill everyone who posts today.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:27 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:27 AM on January 13, 2006
I'm not sure what's worse: bad posts, or the daily posting by some user to MeTa that they don't like the quality of the recent posts.
posted by xmutex at 9:31 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by xmutex at 9:31 AM on January 13, 2006
Other than seeing his unusual name once or twice before, I have no idea who the Conan from the 'nothing' link is. If someone could explain why a close up of his face would be funny/fearsome/fascinating/fantastic if one did know who he is, I'd be... faintly grateful.
posted by jack_mo at 9:37 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by jack_mo at 9:37 AM on January 13, 2006
It's Fwap Friday.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:41 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 9:41 AM on January 13, 2006
So today would be good to roll out my FPP about my dragon tree's blog, since expectations are already low?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:42 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:42 AM on January 13, 2006
xmutex writes "I'm not sure what's worse: bad posts, or the daily posting by some user to MeTa that they don't like the quality of the recent posts."
Well, I've never even considered posting something like this MeTa before, but with half of the FPPs like they are, I thought it was germane. I flagged 'em, I'm not interested in a lynching or anything, and lord knows I've made bad FPPs in the past, but MeTa is, indeed, for talking about the community as a whole. If you don't like what's posted here you can flag it and move on. ;)
posted by OmieWise at 9:50 AM on January 13, 2006
Well, I've never even considered posting something like this MeTa before, but with half of the FPPs like they are, I thought it was germane. I flagged 'em, I'm not interested in a lynching or anything, and lord knows I've made bad FPPs in the past, but MeTa is, indeed, for talking about the community as a whole. If you don't like what's posted here you can flag it and move on. ;)
posted by OmieWise at 9:50 AM on January 13, 2006
I don't really understand the point of this post to MetaTalk. Why not post it on your personal blog? Do you think people will actively see this as a call to arms or something?
I thought there were a rash of excellent posts last night, and the LA Weekly story about the horror movie guy was pretty amazing.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:56 AM on January 13, 2006
I thought there were a rash of excellent posts last night, and the LA Weekly story about the horror movie guy was pretty amazing.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:56 AM on January 13, 2006
He should post a complaint about the quality of the FPP here to his personal blog? How does that make any sense?
posted by monju_bosatsu at 9:59 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 9:59 AM on January 13, 2006
If you don't like what's posted here you can flag it and move on. ;)
I'm just attempting to identify this MeTa quality-callout thing as like a generally unpleasant phenomenon that we should struggle against and restrain ourselves from continuatin' and exacerbatin' rather than an isolated bad-post kinda incident, which is what flagging would indicate.
posted by xmutex at 10:00 AM on January 13, 2006
I'm just attempting to identify this MeTa quality-callout thing as like a generally unpleasant phenomenon that we should struggle against and restrain ourselves from continuatin' and exacerbatin' rather than an isolated bad-post kinda incident, which is what flagging would indicate.
posted by xmutex at 10:00 AM on January 13, 2006
I don't really understand the point of this post to MetaTalk.
so, this self-policing, it vibrates?
posted by andrew cooke at 10:13 AM on January 13, 2006
so, this self-policing, it vibrates?
posted by andrew cooke at 10:13 AM on January 13, 2006
mathowie writes "I don't really understand the point of this post to MetaTalk. Why not post it on your personal blog? Do you think people will actively see this as a call to arms or something?"
Well, yeah. But since you don't weigh in too often in threads like this, I can only guess that my expectations were off. I thought it was worth pointing out that the front page (for today, as of about noon) was filled with poor posts. I didn't want to start a flamewar or nothing, I just wanted to point it out and hope that people cared to do better.
posted by OmieWise at 10:14 AM on January 13, 2006
Well, yeah. But since you don't weigh in too often in threads like this, I can only guess that my expectations were off. I thought it was worth pointing out that the front page (for today, as of about noon) was filled with poor posts. I didn't want to start a flamewar or nothing, I just wanted to point it out and hope that people cared to do better.
posted by OmieWise at 10:14 AM on January 13, 2006
I just wanted to point it out and hope that people cared to do better.
And if more people did this, MetaTalk would be a great resource? I don't know what to make of your post and I don't think it will have any bearing on whatever else gets posted today, which is why I wondered if maybe posting to your personal blog is a better place for thoughts off the top of your head. I see "man this site sucks more than usual" posts about all sorts of blogs on people's personal sites and it seems to make more sense there.
I don't think the front page is any worse today than other days. I just refreshed the home page and it's filled with oodles of interesting stuff. Perhaps it was just an early morning lull.
I guess MetaFilter is like weather in the midwest: if you don't like the quality of it, wait ten minutes.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:20 AM on January 13, 2006
And if more people did this, MetaTalk would be a great resource? I don't know what to make of your post and I don't think it will have any bearing on whatever else gets posted today, which is why I wondered if maybe posting to your personal blog is a better place for thoughts off the top of your head. I see "man this site sucks more than usual" posts about all sorts of blogs on people's personal sites and it seems to make more sense there.
I don't think the front page is any worse today than other days. I just refreshed the home page and it's filled with oodles of interesting stuff. Perhaps it was just an early morning lull.
I guess MetaFilter is like weather in the midwest: if you don't like the quality of it, wait ten minutes.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:20 AM on January 13, 2006
Well Omie, you're going to have to make some concessions. With the rate at which the internet is shrinking there is going to have to be some adjustments.
posted by Mr T at 10:21 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by Mr T at 10:21 AM on January 13, 2006
And the Green Hummer post inspired my favorite comment that I wrote in the last hour or so. Isn't MeFi All About the Comments?
*ducks*
posted by freebird at 10:23 AM on January 13, 2006
*ducks*
posted by freebird at 10:23 AM on January 13, 2006
mathowie writes "I don't know what to make of your post and I don't think it will have any bearing on whatever else gets posted today, which is why I wondered if maybe posting to your personal blog is a better place for thoughts off the top of your head."
It's not that hard to understand, I did think that it would spark a conversation about the quality of posts, I did think that it would improve the quality of posts. About the first I was evidently wrong, but, since I agree with you that the front page is now loaded with goodness, I have to assume that my post is what did it.
posted by OmieWise at 11:22 AM on January 13, 2006
It's not that hard to understand, I did think that it would spark a conversation about the quality of posts, I did think that it would improve the quality of posts. About the first I was evidently wrong, but, since I agree with you that the front page is now loaded with goodness, I have to assume that my post is what did it.
posted by OmieWise at 11:22 AM on January 13, 2006
I see "man this site sucks more than usual" posts about all sorts of blogs on people's personal sites and it seems to make more sense there.
*slinks off to post 'this blog sucks lately post' on own blog*
posted by fixedgear at 11:29 AM on January 13, 2006
*slinks off to post 'this blog sucks lately post' on own blog*
posted by fixedgear at 11:29 AM on January 13, 2006
Man, there's something wrong with my tone today, I put it down to my cold. That last sentence was supposed to be an humorous acknowledgment that this post did not do what I thought it would, that posts like it would be a bad idea in the future, and that the front page is now filled with cool stuff.
posted by OmieWise at 11:30 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 11:30 AM on January 13, 2006
I don't think the front page is any worse today than other days.
And if we do?
If you think things are just fine and dandy, and don't choose to enforce any standard beyond nodouble posts self links single link op/eds... um whatever standard we are using these days....then what avenue does that leave someone who thinks they are poor to address this issue?
I just refreshed the home page and it's filled with oodles of interesting stuff. Perhaps it was just an early morning lull
Yeah, there is some good stuff. So why not delete the ones which are obviously not good to highlight the good ones? Because if you don't, then you leave up the impression that this piece of crap over here is equivalent to this excellent post over there.
Like a post that notes that a topic has been discussed a dozen or so times before (and includes links to prove it), propped up with an opinion article in an partisan rag, and finished off with a call to arms? Is that "oodles of interesting stuff?" No. But it given equal space. Seems it would more sense to explain that it is something we don't want; the other things are the ones that we do.
Or a single link article to truthout.org? (the second NSA post of the day; following a "stellar" one to the Huffington Post) Is that equal to the excellent post about the pitch lake or the one by Huw?
In other words, if you aren't going to be proactive, and you are now telling us not to be proactive regarding standards, are we really ready to just give up?
posted by dios at 11:31 AM on January 13, 2006
And if we do?
If you think things are just fine and dandy, and don't choose to enforce any standard beyond no
I just refreshed the home page and it's filled with oodles of interesting stuff. Perhaps it was just an early morning lull
Yeah, there is some good stuff. So why not delete the ones which are obviously not good to highlight the good ones? Because if you don't, then you leave up the impression that this piece of crap over here is equivalent to this excellent post over there.
Like a post that notes that a topic has been discussed a dozen or so times before (and includes links to prove it), propped up with an opinion article in an partisan rag, and finished off with a call to arms? Is that "oodles of interesting stuff?" No. But it given equal space. Seems it would more sense to explain that it is something we don't want; the other things are the ones that we do.
Or a single link article to truthout.org? (the second NSA post of the day; following a "stellar" one to the Huffington Post) Is that equal to the excellent post about the pitch lake or the one by Huw?
In other words, if you aren't going to be proactive, and you are now telling us not to be proactive regarding standards, are we really ready to just give up?
posted by dios at 11:31 AM on January 13, 2006
since I agree with you that the front page is now loaded with goodness, I have to assume that my post is what did it.
Ha! That's awesome. That's the kind of Horatio Alger stick-to-it-iveness that we need more of around here. Mission Accomplished, OmieWise! Mission Accomplished!
posted by shmegegge at 11:34 AM on January 13, 2006
Ha! That's awesome. That's the kind of Horatio Alger stick-to-it-iveness that we need more of around here. Mission Accomplished, OmieWise! Mission Accomplished!
posted by shmegegge at 11:34 AM on January 13, 2006
Or a single link article to truthout.org? (the second NSA post of the day; following a "stellar" one to the Huffington Post) Is that equal to the excellent post about the pitch lake or the one by Huw?
Yes.
posted by Rothko at 11:49 AM on January 13, 2006
Yes.
posted by Rothko at 11:49 AM on January 13, 2006
OmieWise, I apologize for my post on the BME brass knuckles. If it's any consolation you are not only entitled to a refund of 100% of the money I charged you to read it, but moving forward I have invented a way for you to not only skip reading posts you're not interested in, but to flag ones that you find particularly objectionable, even if you're the only person bothered by them. It will save you all the time & effort you currently waste complaining in thread after thread after thread that we're failing to live up to your standards.
posted by jonson at 11:53 AM on January 13, 2006
posted by jonson at 11:53 AM on January 13, 2006
Why not post it on your personal blog? Do you think people will actively see this as a call to arms or something?
Ummm, when did we start holding MeTa to a higher standard than the front page?
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:02 PM on January 13, 2006
Ummm, when did we start holding MeTa to a higher standard than the front page?
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:02 PM on January 13, 2006
food sucks in this restaurant -- and such small portions!
posted by matteo at 12:04 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by matteo at 12:04 PM on January 13, 2006
..then what avenue does that leave someone who thinks they are poor to address this issue?
1 -- Post something you think it's better than what you just read
2 -- Read something else
3 -- Have a snack
posted by matteo at 12:05 PM on January 13, 2006
1 -- Post something you think it's better than what you just read
2 -- Read something else
3 -- Have a snack
posted by matteo at 12:05 PM on January 13, 2006
OmieWise is right.
OmieWise is trying to improve your site, Matt. For the benefit of you and everyone who visits the site. Telling him to "post it on [his] own blog" is rude and dismissive ingratitude.
Matt, you've recently made some cool upgrades to the site, but it is users like OmieWise who make this site worth visiting. His comments are consistently thoughtful and worth reading; his FPPs are invariably interesting, well-researched, subtle, and thought-provoking, never puerile or tiresome.
We all lose if your dismissiveness convinces OmieWise to spend more time on his blog and less time here.
posted by orthogonality at 12:10 PM on January 13, 2006
OmieWise is trying to improve your site, Matt. For the benefit of you and everyone who visits the site. Telling him to "post it on [his] own blog" is rude and dismissive ingratitude.
Matt, you've recently made some cool upgrades to the site, but it is users like OmieWise who make this site worth visiting. His comments are consistently thoughtful and worth reading; his FPPs are invariably interesting, well-researched, subtle, and thought-provoking, never puerile or tiresome.
We all lose if your dismissiveness convinces OmieWise to spend more time on his blog and less time here.
posted by orthogonality at 12:10 PM on January 13, 2006
Yeah, jonson, just consider me made loopy by the brilliance of your post yesterday about, well, excel, and your post today about, well, another Metafilter post. I was still reeling from your high quality single-link-to-an-image post about the Christmas cards you've gotten. With people like you working for quality, who needs self-policing.
Psst...this line, this line that I wrote above, it was about you: "If you don't have the makings for a good FPP, you don't. It's ok, you can post something good when you come across something good."
posted by OmieWise at 12:16 PM on January 13, 2006
Psst...this line, this line that I wrote above, it was about you: "If you don't have the makings for a good FPP, you don't. It's ok, you can post something good when you come across something good."
posted by OmieWise at 12:16 PM on January 13, 2006
This thread tastes like updog.
posted by spicynuts at 12:20 PM on January 13, 2006 [1 favorite]
posted by spicynuts at 12:20 PM on January 13, 2006 [1 favorite]
OmieWise is trying to improve your site, Matt. For the benefit of you and everyone who visits the site. Telling him to "post it on [his] own blog" is rude and dismissive ingratitude.
I didn't mean it to sound that way, but OmieWise started off the post with "The Front Page this morning is ridiculous." which seems like a gross exaggeration. When I woke up this morning and first saw the site there wasn't a ton of great links but an hour later and it's filled with interesting stuff. I don't see anything that's obviously a terrible post, just a few so-so ones. I wouldn't describe MeFi's front page as "ridiculous" today, since it seems fairly normal: a few stellar posts to interesting things, a few so-so newsy stories.
So why not delete the ones which are obviously not good to highlight the good ones?
dios, "not stellar" does not equal "must be removed from the site." Running the site in this manner would kill it.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:26 PM on January 13, 2006
I didn't mean it to sound that way, but OmieWise started off the post with "The Front Page this morning is ridiculous." which seems like a gross exaggeration. When I woke up this morning and first saw the site there wasn't a ton of great links but an hour later and it's filled with interesting stuff. I don't see anything that's obviously a terrible post, just a few so-so ones. I wouldn't describe MeFi's front page as "ridiculous" today, since it seems fairly normal: a few stellar posts to interesting things, a few so-so newsy stories.
So why not delete the ones which are obviously not good to highlight the good ones?
dios, "not stellar" does not equal "must be removed from the site." Running the site in this manner would kill it.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:26 PM on January 13, 2006
Psst...this line, this line that I wrote above, it was about you
<chorus>
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:27 PM on January 13, 2006
<chorus>
You're so lame.</chorus>
I bet you think this post is about you.
Don't you?
Don't you?
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:27 PM on January 13, 2006
Yeah, it was like someone looked at the top stories on CBSnews.com or CNN.com and decided to post over here.
posted by cass at 12:35 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by cass at 12:35 PM on January 13, 2006
Kids, come on now. Everybody hug or you won't get any ice cream.
orthogonality is right - OmieWise makes an outstanding contribution to the site. However, Matt's right as well - simply lamenting the ridiculous state of the site over the course of a few hours is, well, ridiculous. Rather than having bad-post call-outs, just flag and move on. MeTa would have been better served with a more general (less finger-pointing) post about how to increase the quality of posts. A more measured request might not have stirred up emotions and could have resulted in a constructive discussion on how to make the guidelines more clear.
posted by blendor at 12:42 PM on January 13, 2006
orthogonality is right - OmieWise makes an outstanding contribution to the site. However, Matt's right as well - simply lamenting the ridiculous state of the site over the course of a few hours is, well, ridiculous. Rather than having bad-post call-outs, just flag and move on. MeTa would have been better served with a more general (less finger-pointing) post about how to increase the quality of posts. A more measured request might not have stirred up emotions and could have resulted in a constructive discussion on how to make the guidelines more clear.
posted by blendor at 12:42 PM on January 13, 2006
Yes, the tone of this post was way off, something that I alluded to above and acknowledged when I email two of the posters (one of whom was jonson) whose posts I highlighted. Ironically, the tone was wonky because I was in a rush to post to MeTa even as I was being called to work on something.
posted by OmieWise at 12:44 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 12:44 PM on January 13, 2006
If you don't have the time for a good MetaTalk post, you don't. It's ok, you can post something good when you have time.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:47 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:47 PM on January 13, 2006
OH SNAP!! Good one. That oughta just about end it.
posted by spicynuts at 12:59 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by spicynuts at 12:59 PM on January 13, 2006
Eh. I think (I obviously don't speak for anyone else) the site's been getting soggy for longer than just this morning.
In fact, I posted about it elsewhere about three weeks ago (I didn't post here because I figured I get exactly the reaction Omiewise did get). I quote myself:
posted by orthogonality at 1:02 PM on January 13, 2006
In fact, I posted about it elsewhere about three weeks ago (I didn't post here because I figured I get exactly the reaction Omiewise did get). I quote myself:
Johns Hopkins scientists say the beneficial effects of a popular class of antidepressants may be the result of increased nerve-fiber growth in the brain.By "all on Fark" I mean all were on Fark on a single day, the day I originally posted this.
F.B.I. Watched Activist Groups, New Files Show [. . . .]
The internet has put "[t]he means of production is in the hands of the masses and a revolution is under way".
Stalin's half-man, half-ape super-warriors: Soviet dictator Josef Stalin ordered the creation of Planet of the Apes-style warriors by crossing humans with apes, according to recently uncovered secret documents.
"The tree had about a dozen blue and pink stockings, each stuffed with a plastic figure and attached card that labeled the dolls as being "between 11 and 12 weeks old."": anti-abortion group supplies Christmas tree with a message to women's health club.
All of these are good, thought-provoking stories. All are worth MetaFilter comment. And they're all on Fark; and none of them are on MetaFilter.
posted by orthogonality at 1:02 PM on January 13, 2006
Just to clarify - I somewhat agree with the 'soggy' sentiment. I have noticed that I've been able to fly through my Metafilter RSS lately; some of that is a matter of taste, surely, but also I feel there is an issue of quality.
My post above was meant to endorse a thread discussing a solution, which hopefully this can become. It seems I have a problem with tone, too. ;)
posted by blendor at 1:25 PM on January 13, 2006
My post above was meant to endorse a thread discussing a solution, which hopefully this can become. It seems I have a problem with tone, too. ;)
posted by blendor at 1:25 PM on January 13, 2006
I obviously don't speak for anyone else
Well, you pretty much speak for me on this matter. But maybe it's just us. And OmieWise.
And yeah, Matt, you did sound like you were slapping poor Omie down pretty hard. I figured you just got up on the wrong side of the bed, which you're certainly entitled to do. But if I were Omie, I'd want to crawl under the covers for a week or so.
posted by languagehat at 1:53 PM on January 13, 2006
Well, you pretty much speak for me on this matter. But maybe it's just us. And OmieWise.
And yeah, Matt, you did sound like you were slapping poor Omie down pretty hard. I figured you just got up on the wrong side of the bed, which you're certainly entitled to do. But if I were Omie, I'd want to crawl under the covers for a week or so.
posted by languagehat at 1:53 PM on January 13, 2006
I'm with Omie. There were a lot of dreadful posts. That is worth pointing out. Self-policing and all. Since we aren't able to rate posts, of filter posts, and since flagging only works in the most flagrant cases of suckitude, public shaming is all we have to improve the quality of the site. That and making better posts ourselves--which Omie has done in spades.
On the other hand, in this thread we have had one of the best discussions in ages. So maybe there is hope for us.
posted by LarryC at 5:11 PM on January 13, 2006
On the other hand, in this thread we have had one of the best discussions in ages. So maybe there is hope for us.
posted by LarryC at 5:11 PM on January 13, 2006
There's hope for the squirrels. Those little fuckers are relentless.
posted by y2karl at 5:45 PM on January 13, 2006
posted by y2karl at 5:45 PM on January 13, 2006
I don't see anything that's obviously a terrible post
Okey-doke. It's your site, after all.
posted by soyjoy at 10:54 PM on January 13, 2006
Okey-doke. It's your site, after all.
posted by soyjoy at 10:54 PM on January 13, 2006
OmieWise brings me hot croissants, fresh-squeezed orange juice and flowers from his garden every morning. Matt used to do that, but he fell down on the job after the baby was born. So, yeah, I'm definitely siding with OmieWise.
posted by taz at 2:49 AM on January 14, 2006
posted by taz at 2:49 AM on January 14, 2006
I apologize to jonson for my comment above which singled him out. While I think that posts like this one are appropriate for MeTa, it's also appropriate for him to sarcastically tell me to get lost and stop shitting in threads in response. I hate the back and forth of bad blood, hyperbolic criticism and vendetta that too often ends up defining threads like this one, and while jonson's response to me was understandable and attempted to pass the situation off with humor, mine simply increased the negativity. The reason that I was able to quote from his posting history is precisely because I have found him to make interesting FPPs in the past. So, you know, sorry.
posted by OmieWise at 5:20 AM on January 14, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 5:20 AM on January 14, 2006
The S/N ratio is way to high around here these days.
posted by parallax7d at 2:24 PM on January 14, 2006
posted by parallax7d at 2:24 PM on January 14, 2006
*too
posted by parallax7d at 2:25 PM on January 14, 2006
posted by parallax7d at 2:25 PM on January 14, 2006
Too high??
posted by orthogonality at 4:01 PM on January 14, 2006
posted by orthogonality at 4:01 PM on January 14, 2006
Who's too high?
posted by found missing at 6:25 PM on January 14, 2006
posted by found missing at 6:25 PM on January 14, 2006
That was supposed to be the followup to Who's Next, but somehow it never got released.
posted by languagehat at 6:33 AM on January 15, 2006
posted by languagehat at 6:33 AM on January 15, 2006
I realize that no one will read this down here, but I wasn't online over the weekend.
Matt: You came across as a dick, and the argument that if you started trimming back the bullshit posts that the site would die is ludicrous. And by being dismissive here, you only encourage people to go on shitting in threads. I know that you have these great fantasies about a talk page along with everything, but that's dumb and likely untennable. (Sorry. You get a lot of undeserved crap here, but when you react like a dick to OmieWise it means that I really don't feel bad about telling you that your ideas are often even worse, and that I'd generally rather read a community where OmieWise posts than one where you moderate. It's your site, and no one can stop you from being an asshole, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be called on it when you are.)
posted by klangklangston at 8:27 AM on January 16, 2006
Matt: You came across as a dick, and the argument that if you started trimming back the bullshit posts that the site would die is ludicrous. And by being dismissive here, you only encourage people to go on shitting in threads. I know that you have these great fantasies about a talk page along with everything, but that's dumb and likely untennable. (Sorry. You get a lot of undeserved crap here, but when you react like a dick to OmieWise it means that I really don't feel bad about telling you that your ideas are often even worse, and that I'd generally rather read a community where OmieWise posts than one where you moderate. It's your site, and no one can stop you from being an asshole, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be called on it when you are.)
posted by klangklangston at 8:27 AM on January 16, 2006
I agree with klangklangston, to an extent.
When you leave crap up there, you get responses like this:
I have seen much worse pass as acceptable, and do not see why those posts should be deleted.
posted by Balisong at 7:39 PM CST on January 14
The idea that leaving bad things up will act as tacit approval is a very simple and powerful concept.
posted by dios at 11:57 AM on January 16, 2006
When you leave crap up there, you get responses like this:
I have seen much worse pass as acceptable, and do not see why those posts should be deleted.
posted by Balisong at 7:39 PM CST on January 14
The idea that leaving bad things up will act as tacit approval is a very simple and powerful concept.
posted by dios at 11:57 AM on January 16, 2006
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posted by xmutex at 9:03 AM on January 13, 2006