Comments on: MetaFilthy 2.3.3

MetaFilthy 2.3.3

orthogonality — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:27:35 -0800

MetaFilthy 2.3.3

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:29:35 -0800

Available here.
2.3.3 adapts MetaFilthy to format changes on MetaFilter.

By: OmieWise

OmieWise — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:35:05 -0800

Thanks.

By: If I Had An Anus

If I Had An Anus — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:44:49 -0800

However, MetaFilthy version 2.3 (and later) allows you to turn off the sending of your username and id and the url of the page you have commented on.

Nice.

By: youarenothere

youarenothere — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:54:44 -0800

Thanks for the update; I have a short question though - occasionally, when checking for deleted threads in AskMe, several of the results will be pages that note "Nothing to see here, please move along". Are some posts only semi-deleted and others really deleted? Obviously, I am stoopeed and know not whether this is a MetaFilter or a MetaFilthy issue. My guess is that it's a MetaFilter thing, but if not, perhaps this is fixed in the newest version of MFilithy?

By: greycap

greycap — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:23:24 -0800

Thanks for the update.

By: jessamyn

jessamyn — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:30:58 -0800

Older Ask me threads were reallly deleted. Any thread in the last month or so should show with the reason for deletion and should still be readable along with all the attached comments. There is also the way anonymous posts work [discussed extensively previously recently in MeTa] which may create the odd blank areas you see. I don't use the plug-in, so I can't know for sure, but that's what I think is happening. Matt technically has the ability to "really delete" AskMe posts, but I don't think he ever does it, now that we have a better alternative.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:33:15 -0800

youarenothere writes "Obviously, I am stoopeed and know not whether this is a MetaFilter or a MetaFilthy issue."

MetaFilter issue, not MetaFilthy.

By: youarenothere

youarenothere — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:06:18 -0800

Ok; and thanks again for the great work on the extension!

By: purephase

purephase — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:21:33 -0800

Thanks.

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:04:01 -0800

Cheers.

By: reflecked

reflecked — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:16:26 -0800

Thank you, orthogonality. I'll take a look at it.

I'm such a script-idiot, I've never figured out how to use Greasemonkey. It's a bonus for me that Metafilthy installs as an extension; maybe I'll be able to make it work.

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:24:48 -0800

Possible bug: I don't seem to be able to save my preferences.

I suspect this might be because I have a wee laptop monitor and so can't see the entire preferences window (though there's no scrollbar). On my screen the last section is 'Comment Tracking', and the last checkbox is for the 'Jump to the first unread comment in each thread' option. There's no 'Save' button in sight, anyway, and changing preferences then restarting Firefox has no effect...

I'm using Firefox 1.5 on Mac OS 10.4.4.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:36:41 -0800

jack_mo writes "Possible bug: I don't seem to be able to save my preferences. "

Yeah, the preferences window is a mistake. Unfortunately, it's not an easily correctable mistake. So it'll be fixed right after the first contribution of cash for MetaFilthy. ;) Which means, no time soon . (In fairness, a few users offered contributions, but I couldn't take them because they'd already contributed by beta testing.)

~~In the meantime~~, For the foreseeable future, if you type the url "about:config" into your browser's location bar (the thing that reads "http://metatalk.metafilter.com/mefi/11104" when you're on this page), and you then type "metafilthy" (lower case, no quote marks) into the input box on that page, it'll show you all the metafilthy preferences, and will let you change them.

By: mdevore

mdevore — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:04:06 -0800

>I'm such a script-idiot, I've never figured out how to use Greasemonkey. It's a bonus for me that Metafilthy installs as an extension; maybe I'll be able to make it work.

Anyone who dislikes messing about with Greasemonkey scripts can directly compile them to a Firefox extension. Avoids the muss and fuss. Just tried a compiled XPI extension version of my script with Greasemonkey uninstalled, and it worked fine.

By: reflecked

reflecked — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:22:26 -0800

I'm a much bigger idiot than you're giving me credit for, mdevore. I have ok luck revising javascripts for my own use, but i don't see a THING that makes me believe that any Greasemonkey foo is installed (except the prefs).

Metafilthy is installed. I see no indication there's anything there except "clear private data" has appeared in my Tools submenu.

By: reflecked

reflecked — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:24:34 -0800

oh

Or.. yes i do see Metafilthy evidence.

I was just funnin' ya! *nod*

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:36:51 -0800

orthogonality is it possible to set the plugin to not jump down to the comment box when pasting in a quote? Especially on really long threads it would be nice to be able to grab a series of quotes on your way down and then reply to them all. Right now I end up scrolling up after every quote to get back to where I left offreading and half the time I over shoot.

By: mdevore

mdevore — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:40:49 -0800

>I'm a much bigger idiot than you're giving me credit for, mdevore.

Umm, well, Metafilthy isn't a compiled Greasemonkey script. I mean, it might be because I don't know either way since I neither wrote it nor peered about its guts.

All I'm saying is, if you don't want to, don't like to, or can't figure how to, install Greasemonkey, but you do want to use a Greasemonkey script, you can make the script into a Firefox extension using the posted link. It will then stand on its own without the need for a Greasemonkey install. (The second machine I installed Greasemonkey to hiccupped to the point where I had to reset Greasemonkey settings via about:config to make it work, so there is something to be said about eliminating the need for Greasemonkey simply to try out a particular user script).

Being an idiot is completely optional. And unfortunately an option I've exercised myself on occasion.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:54:00 -0800

There are some subtle (security and timing) differences between extensions and Greasemonkey, but generally, yes. Also extensions can add locale-specific messages, default preferences and GUI crap, while a GM script can't.

reflecked writes "Metafilthy is installed. I see no indication there's anything there except 'clear private data' has appeared in my Tools submenu."

"Clear Private Data" is a Firefox 1.5 thing, not a MetaFilthy thing.

If MetaFilthy is installed, you'll see a small "MF" icon on the Firefox status bar, but only when you're in a non-closed thread (it won't show on front pages or close threads).

Clicking on the icon will turn it yellow; when it's yellow, you can click on any comment (or the post itself) to quote that comment. (This is mostly for users with one-button mice.) Alternately, you can use the right-click context menu in any comment (or the post itself), and click on "MetaFilthy" to quote the comment. If you select part of the text of a comment and then click the context menu "MetaFilthy" or the icon, you can quote just the selected text.

In Firefox's Tools|Extension dialog, clicking on MetaFilthy will let you set your preferences, if you have a large enough screen.

MetaFilthy will also put a white horizontal rule before your first unread comment in a each thread, and show where comments have been deleted.

Need more help? There's an online manual on the download page.

Mitheral writes "orthogonality is it possible to set the plugin to not jump down to the comment box when pasting in a quote?"

What the hell, sure. Send me your email, I'll send you a copy that doesn't jump down. But to change the behavior, you'll have to go to about:config, I'm not adding a GUI.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:56:02 -0800

That's fine with me. (fires off email).

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:09:39 -0800

Which bounces. Your profile email address is no longer valid. I've sent an email to the contact on on the extension page.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:19:10 -0800

Yes, the profile address doesn't work. Other addresses or posting to metachat works.

By: Penks

Penks — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:54:09 -0800

Apparently it's not compatible with Firefox 1.5.0.1.

Should I switch back to FF 1.5 or is there a chance an update might be coming soon?

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:05:31 -0800

orthogonality writes "...if you type the url 'about:config' into your browser's location bar..."

Nice one. Thanks, orthogonality (for the help and the extension - it's fabulous).

By: reflecked

reflecked — Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:47:34 -0800

"All I'm saying is, if you don't want to, don't like to, or can't figure how to, install Greasemonkey, but you do want to use a Greasemonkey script, you can make the script into a Firefox extension using the posted link. It will then stand on its own without the need for a Greasemonkey install. "

ok, THAT I understood. I'm not really an idiot, I just play one on the Metafilternet. Thank you for taking the time to expand on the subject, mdevore.

orthogonality.. What you said above gave me more help than the online manual on the download page (which I did read). Metafilthy is installed, and I'm figuring it out now. Bless your heart. :)

I've tried twice to post this comment. Each time, I get defaulted to the Metafilter login page. heh.. the second time, I got canny and copied my reply before hitting the "post" button.

By: reflecked

reflecked — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:27:30 -0800

aaaaaand now...

Firefox won't even open. Installing Metafilthy is the only change I've made.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:52:20 -0800

orthogonality writes "I'll send you a copy that doesn't jump down. But to change the behavior, you'll have to go to about:config, I'm not adding a GUI"

New functionality worked perfect. Thanks.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:10:37 -0800

reflecked writes "Firefox won't even open."

Follow the instructions here.

By: reflecked

reflecked — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:59:19 -0800

Thank you.

That worked. Metafilthy uninstalled, and Firefox opens again.

It was the only extension I had, as I uninstalled Greasemonkey a couple of days ago.