Comments on: Boingboing discusses AskMe!

Boingboing discusses AskMe!

allen.spaulding — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:00:00 -0800

You ain't got nothing Doctorow.

By: cillit bang

cillit bang — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:22:14 -0800

Metafilter in getting-linked-from-some-blog shocker.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:22:32 -0800

What?

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:23:23 -0800

By a Metafilter member, no less.

By: allen.spaulding

allen.spaulding — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:25:09 -0800

Oh I know he lurks here and that boingboing is linked to all over the place, I just wanted a chance to trash talk, sort of.

By: crunchland

crunchland — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:26:08 -0800

Hooray for allen.spaulding, The African explorer. He brought his name undying fame, And that is why we say: Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

He put all his reliance In courage and defiance. And risked his life for science.

Hey, hey!

By: Smart Dalek

Smart Dalek — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 06:06:16 -0800

Most heartily we'll greet him, with plain and fancy cheering!

Until he's hard of hearing.

allen. has arrived! At last, allen. has arrived!

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:00:48 -0800

There's a guy named mathowie who also frequently links to askme questions on his blog. It's like a bizzaro reverse self link askme filter. It would be fun to watch the meta implosion if he posted it in projects and then a newbie FPP'ed and finished the post with a "Discuss" or an editorializing leading question and then dios and PP posted in the thread and everyone jumped on them. Probably form some kind of superdense hyperlinking antimatter and destroy the internets.

By: Space Coyote

Space Coyote — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:26:38 -0800

Has MeFi fallen so far?

By: mathowie

mathowie — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:43:43 -0800

Trash talk? I posted a link to a thread I thought was interesting (in delicious, where I track interesting stuff), and he posted a link to that.

Now he's posting tons of updates that add to the story which improves it. I don't see what the problem is.

By: allen.spaulding

allen.spaulding — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:48:55 -0800

Oh goodness. I saw he was writing on this story, so I link to it in what I thought was a humorous way, based on the subject matter. I realize crosslinkages between this site and boingboing are common, I thought this one was worth highlighting. Guess I was wrong.

Oh wait, this is my time to flame out. I want my $5 dollars back.

By: felix betachat

felix betachat — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:49:11 -0800

Exchange transforms the things exchanged into signs of recognition and, through the mutual recognition and the recognition of group membership which it implies, reproduces the group. By the same token, it reaffirms the limits of the group, i.e., the limits beyond which the constitutive exchange -- trade, commensality, or marriage -- cannot take place. Each member of the group is thus instituted as a custodian of the limits of the group: because the definition of the criteria of entry is at stake in each new entry, he can modify the group by modifying the limits of legitimate exchange through some form of misalliance.

"The Forms of Capital", Pierre Bourdieu (1986).

By: crunchland

crunchland — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:51:55 -0800

Oh wait, this is my time to flame out. I want my $5 dollars back.

No, no. This is your line :

Hello, I must be going. I cannot stay, I came to say I must be going. I'm glad I came, but just the same I must be going.

By: Otis

Otis — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:11:24 -0800

Well, all the jokes can't be good. You've got to expect that once in a while.

By: kindall

kindall — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:14:26 -0800

Heh. I thought it was funny, allen.

By: allen.spaulding

allen.spaulding — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:30:22 -0800

Well, having two people quote Animal Crackers at me always makes my day.

You know, you two have everything. You're tall and short and slim and stout and blonde and brunette, and that's just the kind of a poster I crave. We three would make an ideal couple. Why, you've got beauty, charm, money. You have got money, haven't you? 'Cause if you haven't, we can quit right now.

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:16:48 -0800

Animal Crackers broadway program image.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:35:44 -0800

Doctorow is an idiot.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:39:52 -0800

Oh duh, I got it. heh.

By: keswick

keswick — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:51:46 -0800

That was a classic Doctorow moment, Rothko. :)

By: lodurr

lodurr — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:01:24 -0800

Cory may or may not be an idiot, and may or may not be a good fiction writer, but Rothko is definitely one of the best guys I know of at obsessively narrow and self-serving readings of a writer's intended meaning.

By: puke & cry

puke & cry — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:05:25 -0800

does he really have a mac tattoo? lolz.

By: keswick

keswick — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:18:23 -0800

Doctorow embarked on a painful, painstaking endeavor to recover the data.

"This was about seven days' worth of miserable, round-the-clock trog-labor, locked up in my room with parts scattered all around me and notes with hex offsets scrawled on hundreds of scraps of paper piled ... in the Sisyphean stable," Doctorow wrote. "I hardly bathed or ate, and smoked hundreds, if not thousands, of cigarettes. When I emerged, triumphant and exhausted, I felt reborn.... I was a new man, and needed to commemorate the event."

Doctorow proceeded to collect a printout of the Sad Mac, which he took to his local tattoo parlor.

http://www.boingboing.net/2002/08/05/mac_tattoo_roundup.html

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:41:57 -0800

It's of a "Sad Mac," so it's OK.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:02:18 -0800

Rothko is definitely one of the best guys I know of at obsessively narrow and self-serving readings of a writer's intended meaning.

Yes, it serves my blatant, pro-Apple agenda to make a joke about "dissing" Doctorow.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:05:04 -0800

(Just for the record, and on the off chance someone cares: I'm inclined to think that Doctorow is not an idiot, though I find his brand of techno-optimifetishism rather annoying to say the least. I also think he's a pretty craftsmanlike prose stylist with some fairly clever story ideas, though he could use work on his characterization. I bother to say this because I've always had a pretty positive impression of Cory as a human being, and it irritates me when people dis someone "big" so they can feel bigger, too.)

By: lodurr

lodurr — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:05:48 -0800

And Rothko's also really good at obsessing on old battles. Did I mention that?

By: crunchland

crunchland — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:12:17 -0800

I think we already had one anti-boingboing tirade once this week. Do we really need to have another? Or are we just working our way through the editors, one by one? Because, I'll tell you, I've really got it in for that Uekalele loving Frauenfelder.

By: puke & cry

puke & cry — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:24:34 -0800

yikes, I hope thats a bad picture.

By: puke & cry

puke & cry — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:25:44 -0800

referencing the tattoo...

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:49:19 -0800

Lodurr, not for nothing, but just shut up already.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:50:12 -0800

Testy boy, aren't we?

By: allen.spaulding

allen.spaulding — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:02:24 -0800

Ok, I'm pretty sure the only way to settle this is for each of you to write ancient ballads attacking the other.

By: keswick

keswick — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:18:32 -0800

Or just to get a room in a cheap motel and work out all the latent sexual tension.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:24:09 -0800

No way, man! I'm not goin' anywhere near that bitch! He stole my hair gel!

And I'm too fried today for ancient ballads, so I guess it's just "go dark" time.

By: ed

ed — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:05:31 -0800

There are ways to relieve sexual tension, with or without Cory Doctorow.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:44:34 -0800

I still don't know what the fuck.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:53:47 -0800

Testy boy, aren't we?

I wasn't the one with the stick up his ass.

By: crunchland

crunchland — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:06:41 -0800

mmm. popsickles.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:10:18 -0800

Oh, man, Rothko, you just do not know when to quit, do you? You've had a hard-on for Cory Doctorow for some reason that I can't discern for a long time -- maybe it's got something to do with the fact that people respect his opinions and don't respect yours. Hell, I don't agree with him either, but he's a clever guy, he is as far as I can tell clearly NOT an idiot, and if he's more popular than me -- and he is -- then bully for him, as long as he doesn't use it as an excuse to be an ass (which, AFAICS, he doesn't).

But Rothko, this is not hte first, and I think not the second or even the third time you've posted a link to that little rant of his about Apple and DRM and either insinuated or outright stated that it demonstrates he's an "idiot". That smacks of something a little more than casual interest -- it smacks of gloating. Obsessive gloating.

The fact is that it doesn't demonstrate what you think it does, because you read it as saying things it's not saying. And no, I'm not going ot get into the specifics with you, because if history is any guide (and with oh-so-predictable you, I don't see how it could not be) you will drag it out until you are the last one posting in this thread, three weeks from now. ("Thank you, My comments!")

That's all I'm sayin', Rothko: You're obsessive. You should really get it looked into.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:28:19 -0800

Lodurr wins.

(and I agree mostly with Lodurr on Doctorow, except that I like his techno-optimifetishism and think he writes very mediocre fiction all-round. In any case, he is by all accounts a pleasant non-idiot worthy of respect. I would say "Unlike insert username here", but I'm trying to move away from that kind of talk.)

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:16:45 -0800

You're obsessive.

Pot, meet Kettle.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:23:17 -0800

And no, I'm not going ot get into the specifics with you

Then shut up.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:12:44 -0800

didn't rothko say it was a joke? didn't spaulding (who wants his shirt, by the way) say that this thread was a joke?

what is this? national panties-in-a-bunch-over-nothing day?

By: mwhybark

mwhybark — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:09:17 -0800

somebody post a ukelele link!

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:40:30 -0800

Done.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:09:52 -0800

I still don't know what the fuck.

Oh, shit, I finally get it! The thread poster was dissing Cory Doctorow, which was the very subject of the boing boing post linked.

Well, finally. That was way worth it.

By: Dreamghost

Dreamghost — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:05:22 -0800

Lodurr, not for nothing, but just shut up already.

remember when we all chipped in and made you shut up for a week?

good times good times

to bad it was only for a week :/

shmegegge — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:31:44 -0800

you know, thanks to stavros I now understand this thread. I didn't at first. That being said:

2 words, doctorow:

Charles. Stross.