Comments on: Prolific poster posts 17 posts per hour for 3.5 hours

Prolific poster posts 17 posts per hour for 3.5 hours

BitterOldPunk — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:06:29 -0800

This has got to be some kind of record. Setting aside the merits of Glider's argument, you have to admire his persistence. By my back-of-the-envelope calculations, the guy made roughly 17 posts per hour for 3.5 hours, took a three hour break, then jumped back into the fray for a total of 70 posts over 13 hours. Wow.

By: BitterOldPunk

BitterOldPunk — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:09:45 -0800

In this same time span, I worked a nine-hour shift, had a drink with friends after work, updated my blog, went to the store for cigarettes and Yoo-Hoo, and watched some TV....When I put it that way, I'm not sure which one of us is in more need of getting a life....

By: growabrain

growabrain — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:43:40 -0800

Her?...

By: I Love Tacos

I Love Tacos — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:51:43 -0800

I stopped counting after I read: "The North is almost singlehandedly responsible for the problems in the US right now, both on a racial/cultural level and in terms of how it interacts with the world."

I'm fairly sure that's the dumbest thing anybody has ever said on MeFi. And I've read the newsfilter threads.

By: keswick

keswick — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:13:29 -0800

I'm really not sure what's lamer: that posting spree or the fact that somebody felt compelled to sit down and crunch the numbers on it. Opinions?

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:27:56 -0800

growabrain, Glider is a "him", not a "her".

By: BitterOldPunk

BitterOldPunk — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:29:33 -0800

somebody felt compelled to sit down and crunch the numbers on it.

Yeah, I guess that is pretty lame....

It was that sorta slow-down-for-the-car-wreck horrified fascination thing, you know?

But in my defense, in the time it took me to crunch those numbers, Glider could have posted 4 times. :)

By: slater

slater — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:42:54 -0800

I wonder, is there a special term for such "my-favourite-discussion-point" diarrhea postings? I've come across them many times on other forums, where poster A writes about a topic that is (supposedly?) common knowledge. That topic just happens to be poster B's favourite topic, cos s/he's read something that flies in the face of said common knowledge and hangs on that for dear life, smacking down the evidently ignorant people that share poster A's views.

Favourite topics of these people are mainly conspiracy theories (HIV is a government-sponsored, so-called disease gone awry; vapour trails of passing jetliners is filled with toxics, etc.)... anybody know what I'm talking about?

By: paulsc

paulsc — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 02:05:37 -0800

Wingnuts will be wingnuts. But at least if they're furiously posting in the blue, they're not starting fights in smoky bars.

And I guess, as veteran of all kinds of Usenet shenanigans, I've come to feel this is the best and highest use of the Internet. All these unwinable arguments, all these weird theories, and passionately held points of view, spewed into an endless, warm receptive ether of a net, thence to be swept onto millions of waiting, softly glowing displays, read by interested eyes, to inflame other brains and hearts, which respond with yet more tapping of keyboards, and warm invective.

Talk about your heartwarming bonds of humanity... I get a little vklempt just thinking about it.

By: fleacircus

fleacircus — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 02:29:12 -0800

Maybe some American states should have laws against slavery denial.

By: brownpau

brownpau — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:06:25 -0800

Reminded me a bit of articlebot, who went timecubing in a thread about his SEO-spam-aid software.

By: slater

slater — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:04:45 -0800

what the lol?! haha... did that articlebot dude get banned?

By: Smart Dalek

Smart Dalek — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 05:24:04 -0800

I think articlebot's dating Anna from IKEA.

By: unknowncommand

unknowncommand — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:14:01 -0800

wow. "I cannot help the fact that I find specific words to say specific things." articlebot rules.

By: mkultra

mkultra — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:35:11 -0800

I wonder, is there a special term for such "my-favourite-discussion-point" diarrhea postings?

I don't know if there's a specific term for it, but I chalk it up to one of my g.f.'s favorite points about arguments- those who know, consciously or not, that they are arguing from a weaker position will argue their point all the more loudly and often, rather than letting their statement stand on its own merit.

For an example, see every other MeFi posting, ever.

By: disclaimer

disclaimer — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:45:01 -0800

I agree with your GF, mkultra - many times arguments devolve into "I don't care if I'm right or wrong, just so long as I can prove you're wrong".

Okay, maybe not the same thing...

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:56:24 -0800

No, you're dumb! Am not! Are too!

By: Optimus Chyme

Optimus Chyme — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:10:14 -0800

I don't like glider as a person and I don't care for his arguments in that thread, but this thread - the callout that's not explicitly a callout - will provoke more shitty, inappropriate comments, and I think that's a bad thing.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:19:22 -0800

Oh yeah? Well, you're poopy.

By: davy

davy — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:20:30 -0800

Whoever you are and whatever you say, if the k3wl kidz don't like you you're a l00ser.

By: matteo

matteo — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:22:45 -0800

But at least if they're furiously posting in the blue, they're not starting fights in smoky bars.

strangely enough, some of us read MeFi hoping to avoid the kind of rubes one would encounter in a redneck bar

By: caddis

caddis — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:23:00 -0800

and for all that the South still lost

By: caddis

caddis — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:24:40 -0800

and but for slavery there would have been no war

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:27:51 -0800

I do agree with mkultra's GF's point at least via one example: you know when you really and truly are an expert on something and your knowledge is 100% reliable and comprehensive and you argue with someone on this topic...and you really can't think of much to do other than typing out the truth of the matter simply and walking away? It's as if the more you know, the more someone else's ignorance is a sort of nearly insurmountable barrier.

Incidentally, to be clear here in the gray...glider is not a southerner, he can't be characterized as a "redneck", and he's not a southern apologist in the typical "Northern War of Aggression" mold. He's actually a Canadian pastiche contrarian conspiratorialist it seems to me.

By: mojohand

mojohand — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:32:07 -0800

In my experience, which is considerable, never, ever, ever argue with a Southerner (OK, a white Southerner) about race, slavery and Civil War causation, unless you just absolutely need to have a three-hour, knock down, flat out, down-to-the-last-empty-cartridge argument.

These days when I hear someone trot out "it wasn't about slavery..." I just nod vaguely and go get another drink.

Here's the thing: you think you're arguing history, they're arguing over regional pride, their great-great-grandfather's memory, and the reputation of some the most valorous, skilled, and tenacious fighting men the world has ever seen.

Who, regrettably, ultimately were fighting to preserv..., ah forget it.

By: mojohand

mojohand — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:38:16 -0800

I don't know Glider, EB, but I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that converts are the most commited partisans of all.

By: wakko

wakko — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:00:12 -0800

I think we can all agree that beedogs.com is the premier online repository for pictures of dogs in bee costumes.

By: quonsar

quonsar — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:21:55 -0800

beedogs.com sucks more every day.

By: LarryC

LarryC — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:29:35 -0800

Glider has the posting strength of ten wingnuts, plus two.

By: BitterOldPunk

BitterOldPunk — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:01:53 -0800

As a white Southerner who isn't an apologist for the sins of my forefathers, I loudly second mojohand's observation.

And beedogs.com sux. Tubcat r00lz!

By: the aloha

the aloha — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:05:58 -0800

no one should get congrats for having nothing else better to do than argue on the internet.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:28:53 -0800

you think you're arguing history, they're arguing over regional pride, their great-great-grandfather's memory, and the reputation of some the most valorous, skilled, and tenacious fighting men the world has ever seen.

true ... but my great-great-grandfather was in the union army, so i've got my own side to represent ...

we won, too

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:38:06 -0800

the reputation of some the most valorous, skilled, and tenacious fighting men the world has ever seen

Ulysses S. Grant on Robert E. Lee:

I felt like anything rather than rejoicing at the downfall of a foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse.

By: LarryC

LarryC — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:28:39 -0800

the reputation of some the most valorous, skilled, and tenacious fighting men the world has ever seen

Oh man, that is such Myth-of-the-Lost-Cause bullshit. By the end of the war there were more deserters from the Confederate army than there were active soldiers.

/sorry, wrong thread

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:04:14 -0800

yeah, I'm not finding anything to celebrate, here. Although I think that BitterOldPunk's post is more of a "Look at that crazy shit!" schadenfreude thing.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:25:38 -0800

I wonder, is there a special term for such "my-favourite-discussion-point" diarrhea postings?

Not that I'm aware of, but may I suggest we call them "Gliders?"

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:34:38 -0800

Crivens, there was some deranged spouting in that threat. And not just from glider (eg. the number of folk who believe that black people are better off in the US than anywhere else in the world was... surprising.)

By: leftcoastbob

leftcoastbob — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:40:40 -0800

true ... but my great-great-grandfather was in the union army, so i've got my own side to represent ...

Sure, but The North has pretty well moved past it.

By: jenovus

jenovus — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:23:54 -0800

jack_mo: two?

Also, I largely agree with EB's assessment of glider: he prides himself on his stubbornness in the face of facts because he's some sort of "underground scholar" and is doomed to be persecuted. If I were more of a dick, I would draw a parallel between his seeming delight in the face of others' contempt and his involvement in the body modification scene.

Never mind, I guess I am a dick today. Forgive me, as I am cranky due to an unrelated matter.

By: mischief

mischief — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:27:26 -0800

"The North has pretty well moved past it."

I have a hunch that the vast bulk of the North immigrated in from Europe well after the end of it.

By: OmieWise

OmieWise — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:36:59 -0800

What about the vast bulk that immigrated up from the south after the end of it?

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:45:19 -0800

He's canadian?!?

By: mischief

mischief — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:46:04 -0800

Hmm, good point, OmieWise. One could then speculate that the North's own deep-seated racism is due more to conflicts between migrating blacks and the many european immigrants to american cities during the late 19th century and early 20th century. Union families and their descendents, being more rural, had little to do with it.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:53:48 -0800

Oh my god, I had never seen that articlebot thing! BEST THREAD EVAR.

His prose is actualy pretty easy to read, if bizzare sounding, though.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:10:41 -0800

That thread is intense.

But I'm having a hard time determining if it went Godwin yet or not.

By: LarryC

LarryC — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:13:11 -0800

It seems to be a general rule that people remember the wars they lost better than those they won. I don't know why this is so. Certainly growing up in Connecticut I had zero consciousness of the Civil War. My Alabama and Arkansas friends by contrast were raised on it.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:19:25 -0800

And beedogs.com sux. Tubcat r00lz!

But FATMOUSE owns them all. FATMOUSE is a universal language!

By: y2karl

y2karl — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:05:48 -0800

Nuh Uh... It's Sex Kitten all the way.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:44:52 -0800

But I'm having a hard time determining if it went Godwin yet or not.

I did my best to Godwin it, but it just kept going.

By: octothorpe

octothorpe — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:03:30 -0800

Almost no one in that thread is saying anything about the movie that is the actual subject of the post. You might as well have made an FPP that just said, "Lets argue pointlessly about the American Civil War."

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:15:43 -0800

It's taken a late turn toward World War II (which I don't think is as odd as it might seem at first), but no one's mentioned Hitler. So far.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:52:13 -0800

Whoops. I just did. Sorry.

By: Ritchie

Ritchie — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:58:26 -0800

I can't put my finger on precisely why, but Articlebot set my Scientology spidey-sense a-tingling.

By: kosher_jenny

kosher_jenny — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 01:56:20 -0800

And beedogs.com sux. Tubcat r00lz!

But FATMOUSE owns them all. FATMOUSE is a universal language!
posted by loquacious at 1:19 PM PST on February 25 [!]

Aw, man, between these sites and the link to the articlebot thread this post totally wins. More callouts should be this entertaining.

BE WARNED, LOYAL VASSALS! NEW INTELLIGENCE HAS BEEN RECEIVED CONCERNING THE DESPICABLE BARON VON BLOATENKAT, WHO CONTINUES IN HIS WRETCHED AND COWARDLY ATTEMPTS TO UNDERMINE OUR GREAT CRUSADE.

By: mischief

mischief — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:28:44 -0800

"growing up in Connecticut I had zero consciousness of the Civil War"

Maybe cuz northern states have a problem teaching black history.

By: booksandlibretti

booksandlibretti — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:39:29 -0800

Maybe cuz northern states have a problem teaching black history.

Hello there, Mr. Stereotype.

My K-12 schooling was in rural New England public schools. Every February, we studied nothing but black history in all disciplines (not just history, but English, science, music, everything). This was in addition to one entire school year spent studying nothing but black history in English and history classes (that was seventh grade; Jewish history was eighth grade).

That time spent still kind of seems like a sop until you realize that every single year, we studied black history whenever it was even slightly relevant to the history of America. We spent more time on George Washington Carver than we ever did on Mendel or Einstein.

By: bardic

bardic — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:01:53 -0800

Nice to know a bigot like glider has friends here.

By: SuzySmith

SuzySmith — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:36:28 -0800

In my experience, which is considerable, never, ever, ever argue with a Southerner (OK, a white Southerner) ...

Glider isn't from the Southern USA, he's from Canada. Click his profile and read some of his work, while I don't agree with him on many things, I do read his sites (and I belong to iam.bmezine.com, which is part of BME.)

(note, I'm not stating anything about glider's position on the USA's Civil War, as this isn't the thread for it. I just wanted to point out that he isn't from the Southern USA.)

By: mischief

mischief — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:37:54 -0800

b&l: Yeah, sure, that's why New Jersey passed a law mandating black history be taught and they can't even begin to enforce it.

By: booksandlibretti

booksandlibretti — Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:38:14 -0800

One state's passing of an unenforceable law (one that I know nothing about -- do you have any support?) does not give you license to stereotype all states within a radius of several hundred miles.

By: srs

srs — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:54:39 -0800

First thing tomorrow morning, I send articlebot to my boss with a note that it will do all his work for him. I think he may have already bought it though. That would explain a lot.

By: mischief

mischief — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:22:21 -0800

License? I don't need no steenkin' license.

By: mischief

mischief — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:29:59 -0800

Oh, yeah: Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:02:52 -0800

mischief, you don't know what you're talking about.

By: mischief

mischief — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:09:16 -0800

So I've heard.