Comments on: Please help me understand this.

Please help me understand this.

swift — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:01:53 -0800

"This post was deleted for the following reason: this is 4-5 years old, the woman was fine, just knocked the wind out of her. It's from Georgia I think."

Please help me understand this.

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:05:02 -0800

link?

By: dflemingdotorg

dflemingdotorg — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:06:07 -0800

IM IN UR SITE, EATIN UR POSTS

By: swift

swift — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:08:31 -0800

Link

By: monju_bosatsu

monju_bosatsu — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:09:18 -0800

It's old, and not very interesting.

By: cortex

cortex — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:12:20 -0800

Remember that story about the Japanese soldier who was discovered living on a secluded island in the Pacific in like 1970, who thought that WWII was still going on? That whole thing was an elaborate and prescient metaphor for the post in question.

By: sergeant sandwich

sergeant sandwich — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:12:27 -0800

... and it's from georgia. i think.

what is it you need help understanding?

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:12:34 -0800

That deletion reason says everything pretty plainly.

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:14:56 -0800

Oh. Now that I've seen the link I understand. It's pretty old. And she was fine. I'm pretty sure it's from Georgia.

Ok?

By: Falconetti

Falconetti — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:15:54 -0800

In other words: your post stinks.

By: scrump

scrump — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:16:02 -0800

Allow me to translate:

Try again later.

Much later.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:17:12 -0800

I'm thinking "It was pretty old" was the reason for deletion. The other parts were just directed at all the people who would be upset that the thread was closed, thinking "How could he close the thread?! I don't even know if she's ok, or where she's from!"

By: mathowie

mathowie — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:18:54 -0800

Ok, I'll break it down:

It's old: I saw it on the internet probably in 2003. Half of the people that left a comment had seen it. In a way, that's like posting the hamster dance.

"the woman was fine, just knocked the wind out of her. It's from Georgia I think.": She didn't break anything and she was ok soon after. Back when this first made the rounds, people tracked down the station and the station used to have a page that explained how it was several years old (I think it's from 1998 or so) and how the reporter that fell went on to become a weather person at a bigger station somewhere else.

Clear enough? It's a very old video I've seen dozens of times. It was probably on mefi before, but I figured if many commenting people had seen it as well, it's old stuff.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:29:17 -0800

That video is so well known I didn't even have to open the link.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:39:35 -0800

Same here. But the thread was worth it for this:

If this, for Swift, is currently the best of the web then I predict wide eyes and gaping mouth within mere hours.
posted by CynicalKnight at 6:19 PM EST on August 29

By: NoMich

NoMich — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:46:03 -0800

No, I'm still confused over the Georgia bit. Georgia? Georgia? On my mind? Please help me to understand!

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:55:48 -0800

We don't like old videos.

We really don't like old videos where people aren't hurt.

We really really don't like old videos where people from Georgia aren't hurt.

By: swift

swift — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:20:43 -0800

Thanks, Matt. What confused me about the comment was:

- the post would be deleted just for being old, even if it isn't a double post;
- it would be deleted because the woman was not harmed;
- it would be deleted for being from Georgia.

Now it looks like it was because people were yelling. Clear enough.

I haven't seen this before. So a lot of other people have -- fair enough, that's probably a good reason to delete the post. But what puts me off is all the "you don't know the internets unless you've seen the Grape-Smashing Video" attitude. I mean, shit, people. This has become one snobby, noisy place.

By: yhbc

yhbc — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:28:36 -0800

Wait, what's this about a hamster dance? Do you have a link?

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:30:50 -0800

Post a new one about a man from Mississipi seriously hurting himself. That'll fly.

By: signal

signal — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:32:09 -0800

Look, why don't you spend some time on the site, get a feel for the community, before you start griping about how the site has 'become', ok?

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:32:48 -0800

This has become one snobby, noisy place.

Become?

Then again, I don't think the websnobbery is such a bad thing if it keeps people conscious of trying to make the place the best it can be, and as long as it doesn't devolve into the kneejerkage I lashed out at here. Sadly, it often does devolve into cynical dummies posting bon mots like '*yawn*' in practice though. So it goes with epenis++.

The noise? That's not good at all. But people have been complaining about signal vs. noise here since the Very Beginning. Same as it ever was.

I would suggest that uninspired posts to the front page add to the noise as much as anything, though.

By: swift

swift — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:38:55 -0800

signal, I signed up the day after you did, so I guess I'll defer to your greater experience.

stavros -- thanks, I feel better now.

By: mendel

mendel — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:41:56 -0800

Tired old, not well-esteemed old.

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:43:00 -0800

Christ, I don't beleive people are complaining about having their shitty American's Funniest Home YouTube posts deleted. If you're going to post crap, act like a man when it gets removed.

By: buzzman

buzzman — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:46:44 -0800

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:49:38 -0800

signal, I signed up the day after you did, so I guess I'll defer to your greater experience.

If I recall correctly, signal (or someone else) made exactly the same joke recently. Don't sweat it.

stavros -- thanks, I feel better now.

Not sure if that was sarcastic or not, but again: don't sweat it.

By: swift

swift — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:03:38 -0800

mr_roboto, I asked for clarification and got it.

What I was complaining about was not getting a very coherent reason why the post was deleted, and what motivated me to complain was all the snarkiness, which made me suddenly realize, for the 20th time, that people will come off as snobby pricks when given the opportunity. And to save any more typing on this tired subject, ha ha yes that includes me too.

stavros, no sarcasm intended, just bad sentence order.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:21:19 -0800

Listen, swift, this is nothing compared to how my deleted post was raked over the coals! Man, a whole new thread just making fun of it opened up, and all sorts of wonderfully mean-spirited people jumped into the squirming orgy of public humiliation! And bob sarabia, bless his heart, who displays an interest in deleted posts that borders on the obsessive, inferred that I was an attention whore. All in all you're getting off pretty easy here. And like mr_roboto says, take it like a man!

By: smackfu

smackfu — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:31:49 -0800

and what motivated me to complain was all the snarkiness, which made me suddenly realize, for the 20th time, ...

Heh. Usually that kind of sentence ends with the poster leaving the site forever.

By: Hat Maui

Hat Maui — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:52:29 -0800

he implied that you were an attention whore. how you took his implication? that's inferring.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:00:22 -0800

posted by Hat Maui: "he implied ... how you took his implication? that's inferring."

Thanks for the correction, I've been misusing that word for years. Damn!

By: hoborg

hoborg — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:03:30 -0800

I hadn't seen this before, actually. Not that it's good, but I haven't seen it before.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:22:01 -0800

Heh. Usually that kind of sentence ends with the poster leaving the site forever.

So... flameout now?

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:24:00 -0800

Metafilter: people will come off as snobby pricks when given the opportunity

By: MrMoonPie

MrMoonPie — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:28:54 -0800

FLAMEOUT! FLAMEOUT! FLAMEOUT!

By: delmoi

delmoi — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:29:55 -0800

I'd never seen the video before, and, knowing that she would be fine, I thought it was hilarious. Not just for the tortured grunting after the fall, but the synthetic insincere sounding response of the news people back at the station.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:16:58 -0800

swift writes, "[...] people will come off as snobby pricks when given the opportunity. And to save any more typing on this tired subject, ha ha yes that includes me too."

That's not "ha ha yes" that you've got there.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:34:58 -0800

hey kids! look what i just found!

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:20:35 -0800

Let's just say that one-link youtube posts have a slightly higher standard of "best of the web" to live up to... and something that has been passed around the metaphoric campfire of the internet many times over the years just doesn't fly. "But *I* hadn't seen it before and I'm sure there are others that hadn't either" is the excuse everyone always uses in this situation, and it just doesn't hold. If that logic had any merit then we'd see a constant stream of duplicate posts as every obsessive compulsive user would repost their own little hobby-horse favorite site every 6 months just in case there happened to be a few people that had yet to see it.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:45:31 -0800

If there were a page here at the site that MeFi newcomers could go to, that would feature a collection of succinct, well-reasoned and well-explained posting criteria from MeFi users, then I would nominate Rhomboid's above comment for inclusion. I think what old-timers here at MeFi sometimes forget is that new users need more than just "your post is lame" or similarly dismissive comments. New users are going to make mistakes, and often they deserve a little more patience and understanding than they get from certain members here. A round of applause for Rhomboid!

By: Slithy_Tove

Slithy_Tove — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:24:00 -0800

flapjax, what you're looking for is something like this. (scroll down a bit)

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:39:46 -0800

Yes, Slithy Tove, that's it! Crunchland's guidelines/suggestions are excellent, and should be required reading for those new to MetaFilter. Unfortunately, no newcomer will find them there, buried in Crunchland's profile page! I vote for presenting Crunchland's words of wisdom on a conspicuous, easy-to-find introductory page for new members. Anyone else think that's a good idea?

By: triv

triv — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:21:50 -0800

*crickets*

By: Drastic

Drastic — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:14:24 -0800

Chalk it up to a simple learning experience. Old videos of clumsy people are bad, but old videos of clumsy people are good. It's pretty basic.

(I kid, I kid.)

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:17:39 -0800

yeah, crickets... sigh.

Well, anyway, we wouldn't wanna do anything that might dry up the pool of potential targets for slamming, lambasting, humiliating, castigating and laughing at, would we? Carry on.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:23:32 -0800

Basted lamb is pretty tasty tho.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:26:21 -0800

By the way, Drastic, your point is well taken. But the "(I kid, I kid)" kinda ruins it...

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:28:18 -0800

Don't take all these snarks to heart, swift, it's a newbie hazing ritual. Plus, we all just like a robust flame out now and again. And that's not a newbie xenophobia thing - hell, most here would put the head of any of our oldest most esteemed members on the chopping block just to witness a good flame out. We have a touch of the colosseum crowd about us that way, don't take it personally!

By: Drastic

Drastic — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:32:49 -0800

Well, as points go, I think it comes pre-ruined, so that's okay.

By: OmieWise

OmieWise — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:47:17 -0800

What is MeFi, after all, but bread and circuses?

By: antifuse

antifuse — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:01:42 -0800

Damn, I hadn't seen that before. Now I feel like I don't interweb enough. The slow motion replay with sound was the best part though "owwwww owwww owwww"... man, I just kept laughing!

However, even though it was funny, it didn't really seem FPP-worthy. It seemed a bit more FarkWorthy. I've got some great videos of people throwing giant foam airplanes in the air, only to have them loop around and hit them in the head! It's hilarious! But I don't really think it would work for a MeFi post.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:10:04 -0800

most here would put the head of any of our oldest most esteemed members on the chopping block just to witness a good flame out

*looks hopefully at madamjujujive*

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:20:09 -0800

My brother was killed in a freak grape stomping accident, and my family was so traumatized that they all killed themselves, except for me.

Should I post the YouTube link to the front page?

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:38:31 -0800

A piece of that tip just got me, O'Dell.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:53:23 -0800

My brother was killed in a freak grape stomping accident, and my family was so traumatized that they all killed themselves, except for me. Should I post the YouTube link to the front page?

Yes, but only if you can somehow connect this all to William Shatner or Bob Dylan.

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:01:04 -0800

Armitage: We uhh... may need emergency surgery in the studio.

lol

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:21:03 -0800

*looks hopefully at madamjujujive*

Ah, but I would lob that ball right back at ya, guy ... you are so wonderfully adept with language so I think you could provide spectacularly satisfying conflagration!

By: etoile

etoile — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:57:24 -0800

IM IN UR SITE, EATIN UR POSTS

Rolling. On. Floor. Laughing my ass off.

Thank you.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:02:47 -0800

Ah, madam, when I flame out—when I flame out, such a flame will there be that men shall speak of it for generations, yes, and women too, and perhaps a few cats, though not my cats, for they care not who feedeth so long as the food cometh... at any rate, it will be a flameout for the ages. I shall begin in English, but eventually I will have to pass over to Russian, a much more satisfying language for cursing (there will be many a блядь! heard on that day), and finally the Spirit will possess me and there will be tongues such as have not been heard since the Apostles got hit with the Holy Fish of Babel two thousand years ago. Follow me then who dare!

*rubs hands with crazed anticipatory glee*

By: OmieWise

OmieWise — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:15:27 -0800

languagehat writes "*rubs hands with crazed anticipatory glee*"

Yeah, me too! Although I might wash them first if they've been all over that fish of Babel.

By: mischief

mischief — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:06:43 -0800

I can proudly say I have never seen the hamster dance.

By: dersins

dersins — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:08:50 -0800

Which hamster is that?

By: y2karl

y2karl — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:09:45 -0800

I remember my first hamster dance.

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:00:03 -0800

Wait - are we no longer all doing the hamster dance? I didn't get the memo. What is the current cool dance?

By: gleuschk

gleuschk — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:05:51 -0800

I'm embarrassed for all you people. It's hampster.

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:10:08 -0800

No Hampster is a state in New England. The dance is spelled 'hamster,' bub.

The dance we're all doing now is the Churlish Pule.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:32:47 -0800

Oh....

You stick out your snark,
You grunt like a mule,
You glow in the dark,
You look like a fool,
But you don't give a damn, 'cause
You're doin' the Churlish Pule!

You whine in the Grey,
You bitch in the Blue,
Don't care what you say,
Don't care what you do, 'cause
You're doin' the Churlish Pule!

Uh-oh, look out, they're comin' to get you now;
They're haulin' your ass into MetaTalk, they're gonna have a cow!

But...

You don't care,
It's all in the past,
You're happy to swear
And flame out at last, 'cause
You're doin' the Churlish Pule!

By: yhbc

yhbc — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:57:32 -0800

Somewhere, cortex is grabbing his guitar and running to the studio. I hope.

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:25:36 -0800

I hope so too, yhbc. I am sending out the special cortex bat signal right now. We need this to music.

languagehat, I knew you were a man of many talents but you have outdone yourself here. Color me impressed! Here's my quick stab at choreographing the whole thing:

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:52:50 -0800

I know exactly how I would record that, actually (hint: a ukelele would be involved), but I'm fucking exhausted this evening. Maybe in the next couple of days.

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:58:23 -0800

Christ, who am I kidding.

Doing the Churlish Pule.

By: yhbc

yhbc — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:06:53 -0800

Yay!

By: blasdelf

blasdelf — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:12:48 -0800

I ❤ YOU SO HARD!

By: scody

scody — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:40:41 -0800

once again, CORTEX, i DEMAND!!!!!! that you let me have a million of your babies i dont care that your married kthxbye

By: signal

signal — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:52:39 -0800

Holy crap, I am in awe.

By: dobbs

dobbs — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:16:30 -0800

once again, CORTEX, i DEMAND!!!!!! that you let me have a million of your babies. posted by scody!!!!

Damn. I gotta take up an instrument.

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:58:44 -0800

It works. If I did anything else for a living that kept me in the same income bracket, I wouldn't stand a chance.

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:26:23 -0800

Superb! Many thanks!

By: Jofus

Jofus — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:40:46 -0800

I once got an email from Cortex. I am now going to print it out, frame it and hang it over the mantelpiece.

And kiss it occasionally.

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:57:55 -0800

"i dont care that your married kthxbye"

"I don't care that you're married/ I will drive you home in my one-eyed Ford..."

By: scrump

scrump — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:35:30 -0800

Can we just elevate cortex to MetaSainthood now already? I mean, seriously, there should be some sort of "MeFi SUPERgenius" icon or something for people like him.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:37:53 -0800

Perhaps a Stan Chin-esque icon, but instead of a gold star it'd be a tiny banner that scrolls the text "has too much free time" in an unending loop.

By: turbodog

turbodog — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:58:21 -0800

By: swordfishtrombones

swordfishtrombones — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:04:43 -0800

How about a 9835; rather than a gold star?

By: swordfishtrombones

swordfishtrombones — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:05:05 -0800

Damn. That work fine on preview, etc.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:38:26 -0800

9835;9834;9835;9834;

Ha! I had no idea. Crazy unicode!

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:38:44 -0800

Damn. That worked fine on preview, etc.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:29:42 -0800

♫♫♫♫♫♫

♬♬♬♬♬

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:40:42 -0800

give it up for ̳̳̿U̸̸̳̳̳̳̿̿̿N̸̸̳̳̳̳̿̿̿I̸̸̳̳̳̳̿̿̿C̸̸̳̳̳̳̿̿̿O̸̸̸̳̳̳̳̳̳̿̿̿̿D̸̸̳̳̳̳̿̿̿E̳̳̿̿