Comments on: Please stop bashing Texas

Please stop bashing Texas

matteo — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:28:58 -0800

And fuck the Texas bashers most of all.
Bunch of ignorant bigots
If you're making a post about Texas you should reconsider, as many recent threads have ended in shouting matches that do nothing good for the site or the community. If you do insist on posting about those subjects, make sure it's actually something of major importance or at the very least interesting, and not just another news blip about a teacher being fired for taking their students to a museum.

By: matteo

matteo — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:29:16 -0800

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:30:38 -0800

It makes a change from the usual steer/queer-based story.

By: lester's sock puppet

lester's sock puppet — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:34:50 -0800

this thread is worthless without pictures

By: DenOfSizer

DenOfSizer — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:38:27 -0800

Oh, I don't know that "aren't prudes prudish" posts don't do anything good for the site or the community. What was fighting to the fight club?

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:39:51 -0800

I'd be fonder of Texas if all my exes didn't live there.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:42:48 -0800

I'm also told that the stars at night are big and bright...

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:44:14 -0800

By: dead_

dead_ — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:44:33 -0800

This thread will be so great.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:44:43 -0800

I read it as him joking around a bit. This comment seems more caustic than the one you linked.

By: brain_drain

brain_drain — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:46:45 -0800

abortion
atheism
bands you like
bicycles
childbearing
christians
circumcision
declawing
drugs
gobots
guns
obesity
middle east
Texas

Got it.

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:49:27 -0800

Gobots?!

By: cribcage

cribcage — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:52:27 -0800

Fuck GoBots.

By: brain_drain

brain_drain — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:54:12 -0800

Just making sure y'all are paying attention.

By: squirrel

squirrel — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:57:02 -0800

So... the revolution *won't* be televised? Because it gets matteo's goat? Well, now, that there ain't neighborly.

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:57:19 -0800

No, it's true!

Also, this probably isn't worth an FPP. But go to it!

By: Stauf

Stauf — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:57:47 -0800

~~Transformers~~ Gobots

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:57:52 -0800

Caustic? Yeah. But I just can't up with peoples bullshit perseption of this place. They think everyone in Texas loves GWB and sleeps with a bible under their pillow. Oh, we're also ignorant and we hate nudey art.

And if you think you can change their mind by arguing on the internet, forget it. They'll still think we're a bunch of backwards inbreds. So fuck 'em.

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:58:54 -0800

can't put up

We don't believe in proofreading in Texas.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:59:50 -0800

FUCK THE FUCKING GOBOTS, SHIT.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:01:30 -0800

They'll still think we're a bunch of backwards inbreds. So fuck 'em.

only if they got right purty mouths.

sorry

By: dios

dios — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:01:59 -0800

That thread ought to be an embarrassment to anyone who considers themselves an enlightened and sophisticated progressive. Instead it seems to be heralded.

There ought to be a word in the English language which captures the idea of people decrying the provincial bigotry of others in a provincial and bigoted tone.

By: dios

dios — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:06:06 -0800

I wanted to add one more thing: that thread does have some worth insofar as it permits us another example of the fact that languagehat is one of the few people on this site who has consistency in his views and does not sacrifice his intellectual integrity for a cheap point. So good for him (and those who said similar comments).

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:12:00 -0800

So gobots are out but people can get all moony about Transformers? This sucks.

Seriously though, Texas is the new New Jersey, like it or not. By which I mean "laughingstock of the lower 48", not "state that sends most of its kids on to higher education".

And Hawaii - don't get me started. Hawaii, you're a pussy! (scroll down til you get to the transcript by Ryan; anyone know where I can find video?)

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:17:37 -0800

dios writes "That thread ought to be an embarrassment to anyone who considers themselves an enlightened and sophisticated progressive. Instead it seems to be heralded."

I'm not sure what you mean by "heralded", but it seems that the thread started with a few immature kneejerk comments "AMERIKA IS A GULAG!; TEXANS ARE INBRED JESUS-SLAVES!" that got promptly and thoroughly torn down by the bulk of the community. Those kind of thoughtless, immature comments generally don't stand unanswered here.

By: gompa

gompa — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:20:27 -0800

There ought to be a word in the English language which captures the idea of people decrying the provincial bigotry of others in a provincial and bigoted tone.

"Irony"?

*world implodes*

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:23:43 -0800

There ought to be a word in the English language which captures the idea of people decrying the provincial bigotry of others in a provincial and bigoted tone.

*cough*

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:26:18 -0800

I had also completely forgot about the Roy-Orbison-in-cling-wrap thing, which is easily one of the most subtly disturbing pieces of mindrot available on the net.

But I forget we have very important things to discuss here and now:

How much did the GoBots actually suck? Did they suck more than Captain Power? Did they suck even more than a PogoBal?

By: bardic

bardic — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:32:30 -0800

Ya know what's funny? Seeing a Parisian going on about how fucked up the people are in Languedoc.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:34:18 -0800

And the Dwarves going on about the Hobbits. Then there's the Dwarves who move to the Shire and start thinkin' they're Hobbits. We call them 'Dobbits.'...

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:34:59 -0800

loquacious: "How much did the GoBots actually suck?"

Depends. Turbo sucked pretty hard, but Dyson DC07 had mad cyclonic vacuum skillz.

By: bardic

bardic — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:39:32 -0800

And seeing ~~puke & cry~~ bob sarabia getting indignant about anything.

By: drezdn

drezdn — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:46:29 -0800

The Gobots were to the Transformers as Midnight Oil was to U2.

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:47:57 -0800

Domo arigato

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:48:50 -0800

That's just crazy talk, drezdn.

By: drezdn

drezdn — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:49:57 -0800

IRFH, SCOOTER WAS A SAINT!

FUCKING ROCKS THAT TRANSFORMED!!!! DID TRANSFORMERS HAVE THAT AVANTE GARDE GRAVITAS?

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:51:02 -0800

Ugh midnight oil. You know what, fuck Australia for generating them and Men Without Hats.

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:52:38 -0800

Midnight Oil was a surprisingly good live band.

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:52:43 -0800

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:53:53 -0800

I think you mean Men At Work, you elitist provincial bigot, you. Men Without Hats are from the province of Québec.

By: drezdn

drezdn — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:54:04 -0800

AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE OBVIOUS RACISM IN TRANSFORMERS!!!!!!

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:55:51 -0800

Thanks Blazecock that struck me really funny. Fuck any random group of men!

By: jonson

jonson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:55:59 -0800

I'm a little late to this thread, and I don't have much to say about what's already been said, but I wanted to add this, and I feel this very strong: Anyone who has a problem with Gobots has a problem with Jonson. And there will be repurcussions, motherfuckers.

By: trey

trey — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:56:23 -0800

Since moving to the Pacific Northwest from the South, I am amazed at how often people here laugh and make fun of Southerners because Southerners are prejudiced and use stereotypes.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:56:36 -0800

Fuck, now I have "Beds Are Burning" running through my head, and I'm terribly worried that Mission UK is the only thing that'll get it out. I'm even more worried that I'll have to play The Cult or even INXS, next, and that can only lead to me blasting Pop Will Eat Itselfs "Cure for Sanity" at earsplitting volumes to clear that out, or worse, Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine.

Midnight Oil would have been better than U2, anyway. Well. Less annoying. I think. That's the letter 2 and the numeral U... and these guys are from England and who gives a shit!? FUCK SNUGGLES.

By: MadamM

MadamM — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:57:06 -0800

Man, I live like 10 minutes away from the elementary school in question in that thread. And I hate that people attack Texas for being everything that's wrong with America. Texas is just a state. It's a big state that's proud of itself, maybe a little too much, but it's just a place with people in it. People are people and will do stupid stuff anywhere. Being dumb and conservative isn't a Texan disease. Being Texan and liberal for the last 6 years has sucked. You know how you feel when people from outside the US are all "Americans are so silly and backwards lol" and you want to shake them and show them everything good about America? That's what it feels like when people attack Texas or laugh it off as a state full of flag wavin' gun totin' hicks who watch FOX news on the TVs in their SUVs on the way to church (running over a few queers and hippie pinkos on the way). I like Texas. It's my home. I wish people would stop making me feel guilty for loving my home.

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:57:58 -0800

"Fuck any random group of men!" HA! You said that to "Blazecock." Ha. I'm easily amused when I'm supposed to be working.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:58:44 -0800

Hey, jonson? Shut the fuck up and go play with your transforming rocks!

By: COBRA!

COBRA! — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:00:39 -0800

Anyone who has a problem with Gobots has a problem with Jonson. And there will be repurcussions, motherfuckers.

I hate Gobots. But love pugs. What's a man to do?

On the issue of Texas... I was ready to condemn all of the people who just knee-jerk into Texas-bashing. But: Matthew McCaughnehey. So, fuck Texas.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:01:14 -0800

Fuck any random group of men!

Wrap that rascal! But don't use shrink-wrap.

By: drezdn

drezdn — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:02:51 -0800

*Adds COBRA! to the list*

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:03:04 -0800

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:04:33 -0800

If I had a dime for every time I heard that one...

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:04:40 -0800

How can you hate on gobots? You people are awful. It's not funny.

Hey, jonson? Shut the fuck up and go play with your transforming rocks!

You mean Rock Lords? Yeah, a tiny plastic car or plane is great camouflage.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:06:50 -0800

By: drezdn

drezdn — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:07:29 -0800

Plus, if you got bored with Rock Lords, they were far more effective when thrown than other transforming items.

By: caddis

caddis — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:07:54 -0800

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:08:47 -0800

caddis: Flag and move on.

By: peacay

peacay — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:11:17 -0800

Midnight Oil's Peter Garrett is now a member in the national parliament in Oz (in the not-John Howard party, Labor).

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:13:14 -0800

You know who else liked big flags? Hitler.

And this guy:

Don't be this guy.

By: you just lost the game

you just lost the game — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:13:53 -0800

People from outside the US are all "Americans are so silly and backwards lol" because, these days, those Americans are running the country and getting most of the press.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:14:23 -0800

RIck Santorun predicted stuff like this ^^^

By: cortex

cortex — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:17:06 -0800

*messes with Texas*

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:17:18 -0800

That's because Rick Santorum is way into stuff like that.

All that repression has to come out somewhere.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:18:10 -0800

Can you believe I have to vote for that idiot Bob Casey next week?

/ducks

By: ericb

ericb — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:18:45 -0800

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:18:49 -0800

Month. Next month.

Way to ruin my own joke, me!

By: Stauf

Stauf — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:20:41 -0800

By: If I Had An Anus

If I Had An Anus — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:22:43 -0800

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:26:39 -0800

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:37:46 -0800

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:41:32 -0800

How much did the GoBots actually suck?

The SI unit for suckage is the H2, which is an abbreviation for "Highlander2," a fictitious terrible movie that many people have a delusion of having seen.

GoBots suck 11 mH2, relatively low on the scale. Your favorite band sucks 1.1 H2.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:00:32 -0800

fuckity fuck, fuck fuck

By: horsewithnoname

horsewithnoname — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:06:20 -0800

That thread was a huge mess. But the line, Lord deliver me from hot sauce jackoffs, brought me tears of joy.

By: cribcage

cribcage — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:09:40 -0800

I move that henceforth, in all Texas-related threads, George W. Bush shall be referred to as "Leader-1."

By: Mayor Curley

Mayor Curley — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:16:14 -0800

I hate everyone who lives south of Philadelphia and north of Cancun. I have fantasies of General Sherman and his army rising from the grave and killing the lot of you fuckers. There, I said it.

By: brain_drain

brain_drain — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:20:42 -0800

OK, I went ahead and created a GoBots post.

By: cribcage

cribcage — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:30:21 -0800

That's awesome. You created an FPP thread so we wouldn't derail the MeTa.

My head is spinning.

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:10:36 -0800

We fight them in the blue, so you don't have to fight them in the grey. Boogerheads.

By: Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese

Kraftmatic Adjustable Cheese — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:05:18 -0800

Fuck Text Etc.

By: digitalis

digitalis — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:26:15 -0800

Since moving to the Pacific Northwest from the South, I am amazed

Trey, I've noticed it too, and after a few years it really starts to become tiresome. The first thing people say when they find out where I'm from is usually, "I'm sorry." FWIW, I'm living in Seattle right now too.

By: Mayor Curley

Mayor Curley — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:50:06 -0800

The first thing people say when they find out where I'm from is usually, "I'm sorry."

It's because they're imagining you rogering your cousin and they're ashamed.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:57:11 -0800

Fuck Text Etc.

Lord deliver me from hot sauce jackoffs, whatever are you trying to say?

By: y2karl

y2karl — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:37:35 -0800

fuckity fuck, fuck fuck

Dad, you're drunk--go home.

By: R. Mutt

R. Mutt — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:09:27 -0800

You realize, of course that THE ALAMO is fake, a recreation, right?

By: delmoi

delmoi — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:21:09 -0800

I don't think that Texans are a bunch of bible thumping idiots, and actually a lot of people assume that about Iowa. But I've spent a lot of time growing up in both states and the difference in simple decency, of people and especially the relationship between people and government is simply enormous.

The educational system in Texas is abhorrent, and the educational system in Iowa is fantastic.

In Texas the government is about as Authoritarian as it gets, especially towards minors. It treats its poor terribly and executes tons of people.

Maybe it's just perspective, but I've always assumed that the rest of the U.S. was more like Iowa then it is like Texas. But the simple fact is that Texas is just a bad place compared to my experience with Iowa and my understanding of the rest of the United States.

No one would be complaining if someone said something like "oh, Canada is better then Taiwan" or something, but if it's intrastate it's somehow bad? Ridiculous.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:43:15 -0800

You realize, of course that THE ALAMO is fake, a recreation, right?

"Hey, kid. What's your name?"
"I ... can't remember."
"Where ya from?"
"I can't remember."
"Can't ya remember anything?"
"I remember ... the Alamo."

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 20:53:09 -0800

delmoi writes "No one would be complaining if someone said something like 'oh, Canada is better then Taiwan' or something"

I dunno. If there was a thread about Taiwan, and a bunch of Canadians were all saying "Well, what the fuck do you expect, it's Taiwan, the place is a fetid shithole", I think there would be complaints.

By: 2or3whiskeysodas

2or3whiskeysodas — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:25:33 -0800

MadamM pretty much nailed it, starting with "You know how...

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:14:21 -0800

Hey, that's my comment!!!

*Waves*

By: jason's_planet

jason's_planet — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:32:27 -0800

OMFG RED STATE HILBILLIES LOL

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:27:23 -0800

HAI GUYS AMI DOIN IT RITE?

By: jefbla

jefbla — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:25:05 -0800

As a native Texan, I can't possibly follow the "warming my feets" bird, yet here I am. Following it up. Following the shit out of it. yep.

I got nothing.

By: grouse

grouse — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 05:55:58 -0800

You realize, of course that THE ALAMO is fake, a recreation, right?

What the hell are you talking about?

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 06:28:54 -0800

You realize, of course that THE ALAMO is fake, a recreation, right?

"well, i went to the little big horn, and all i got was this lousy arrow shirt"

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 06:42:32 -0800

How many years total did I live in Texas (all as an adult, btw)? 12? I can't mount a defense of the state as a whole. As a whole, it's a shithole. But Austin is a great place to live. And I met and know a lot of individual people who are from and live in Texas who are as cool and enlightened as anyone I've met from anywhere else. Where the South-bashing and Texas-bashing and, hell, US-bashing gets in trouble is that's it's very inconsiderate of those people who live in those places who don't deserve to be bashed in the least. It just isn't fair to say something to them like "move somewhere better" because a) it's their home and almost all people form irrational attachments to their homes, and b) the particulars of their lives where they live may in fact be pretty darn great (such as living in Austin and being friends with cool people and living somewhere where there's lots of cool things to do). Furthermore, you're kidding yourself if you think that the people who live in these places, the enlightened ones anyway, are oblivious to the things which are wrong. Most of we Americans here on MeFi are well aware of what's wrong with the US and the same is true of Southerners and Texans. So go ahead and bash these places if you think they deserve it (I've always bashed Texas quite a bit, but it comes naturally to me being a native of a neighboring state), but try to soften the blow with some respect for the dissidents who live in these places.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 06:55:23 -0800

oh, for pete's sake, eb ...

look, it's simple ... if you're going to live in a shithole, get a sense of humor about it and don't be so damned sensitive when people put it down or poke fun at it

(said as someone who actually spent 40 years in a place that regionals consider a shithole, for good reason)

by the way, i suppose that all the bragging that texans do about their state has something to do with all the put downs

it could be worse ... you could be from north dakota and never hear a word about your state at all ...

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:11:05 -0800

Most of we Americans here on MeFi are well aware of what's wrong with the US and the same is true of Southerners and Texans.

And yet most of youse Americans seem to do so very, very little about those things that are wrong with the US and the South and Texas.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:12:16 -0800

pyramid termite : "i suppose that all the bragging that texans do about their state has something to do with all the put downs "

I seriously doubt that. Texas bragging has been around since way the hell back, before the internet and the ability to easily hear what people from other regions think about your neck of the woods. Before the internet, the main ways to find out what people from other areas thought was TV, newspapers, magazines, and radio, and there weren't so many put downs in those. So while people in other states probably were making fun of us like they got paid to do it, very few Texans would have known, yet we bragged anyway.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:18:27 -0800

five fresh fish : "And yet most of youse Americans seem to do so very, very little about those things that are wrong with the US and the South and Texas."

Yeah. Youse Americans, go down to Houston and make it less goddamn humid!! And take care of those ants, too!

By: Cyrano

Cyrano — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:51:23 -0800

It's actually rather nice out right now. Not humid at all.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:34:52 -0800

For a lotta non-yanks, America is the Texas of the world.

Just sayin'.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:48:50 -0800

And yet most of youse Americans seem to do so very, very little about those things that are wrong with the US and the South and Texas.

at least my house doesn't melt every summer

By: furiousthought

furiousthought — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:59:43 -0800

Yeah, Texas bragging hasn't historically had the built-in put-down resentment you find in Southern attitudes elsewhere. The closest analogue in the US is NYC center-of-the-worldness, really. Like, take that New Yorker cover with the New York neighborhoods covering 80% of the map, and make it about Texas instead, and it'll fit the state exactly.

By: ericb

ericb — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:21:20 -0800

Saul Steinberg's " "View of the World from 9th Avenue."

By: timeistight

timeistight — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:08:11 -0800

I'd like to apologize to all my American friends for fff's tedious anti-Americanism and to plead that not all British Columbians are so ignorant.

By: riotgrrl69

riotgrrl69 — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:10:02 -0800

video!

By: caddis

caddis — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 18:03:50 -0800

It's OK, we 'mericans love fff (well I do).

By: y2karl

y2karl — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 18:58:11 -0800

We like big butts and we can not lie.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:19:04 -0800

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:21:42 -0800

And as to fff's comment...notice that I said "we Americans here on MeFi". I think that this group probably is doing things to improve the situation. And I think the groups in the South and Texas I'm asking for some sympathy toward are also probably doing thing to improve the attitudes and whatnot in those regions.

By: R. Mutt

R. Mutt — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:45:24 -0800

Having just sat through the Texas Governer's debate on CSPAN (the us gov't channel) , I have to say ... I misunderestimated how pathetic the situation is in Texas. I think Texas should be voted off the island.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:23:37 -0800

Actually, yah, I suspect MeFi'ers are slightly more political than your average citizen.

What's truly tedious, timeistight, is the USA fucking-over every small-but-resource-rich nation in the world. For the past fifty years there has been nothing but a continuous series of US-backed coups, invasions, embargos, and war.

I grow tired of it.

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:44:47 -0800

You realize, of course that THE ALAMO is fake, a recreation, right?

What the hell are you talking about?

What he's referring to is the fact that much of the Alamo was destroyed during and after the battle, and a lot of the structure people see today is a reconstruction, some of which might not be original detail. You could call in "fake", in the sense that the bricks you touch weren't there during the slaughter, but the rebuilding was done based off the original whenever possible. Plus, ya know, it's on the original battle site.

By: bob sarabia

bob sarabia — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:01:32 -0800

Either that or he thinks the Alamo is an alien conspiracy.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:24:49 -0800

What he's referring to is the fact that much of the Alamo was destroyed during and after the battle,

death rays will do that

By: grouse

grouse — Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:52:24 -0800

You could call in "fake", in the sense that the bricks you touch weren't there during the slaughter, but the rebuilding was done based off the original whenever possible. Plus, ya know, it's on the original battle site.

Some of the bricks were there during the slaughter. I think being restored is different from being "fake."