Comments on: ask.met... er, I mean provoke.metafilter?

ask.met... er, I mean provoke.metafilter?

CKmtl — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:07:14 -0800

Is this in any way acceptable? By which I mean posting a question that you "know" will be flame-bait, and then taunting those who answer?

By: Listener

Listener — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:12:53 -0800

jinx.

By: Methylviolet

Methylviolet — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:14:44 -0800

Ban this asshole.

By: Listener

Listener — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:15:55 -0800

In other words, I was posting the same question at the same time as you. Dunno if it's going to show up. You said it better anyway.

By: ThePinkSuperhero

ThePinkSuperhero — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:16:17 -0800

It is not acceptable. A deletion would be most appropriate.

By: nj_subgenius

nj_subgenius — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:16:25 -0800

oh the power!

By: ztdavis

ztdavis — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:18:11 -0800

Clearly our best just isn't good enough for him.

Oh, and ban him.

By: signal

signal — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:20:07 -0800

sub-standard troll.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:20:29 -0800

Dropkick dropkick?

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:21:17 -0800

posting a question that you "know" will be flame-bait, and then taunting those who answer?

chicks dig that.

By: Lentrohamsanin

Lentrohamsanin — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:21:58 -0800

A nice Mormon boy shouldn't be asking such questions.

By: ztdavis

ztdavis — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:22:31 -0800

(Or, well, maybe at least a stern talking-to).

By: Listener

Listener — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:23:07 -0800

But a demented fitness freak should. From his user profile.

By: muddgirl

muddgirl — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:23:10 -0800

He shouldn't be banned, but he should be forced to film commercials about the horrors female genital itching, as well as not being fresh "down there".

By: ND¢

ND¢ — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:23:52 -0800

"Daaamn, Metafilter, you have niiiice titties"

By: smorange

smorange — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:24:11 -0800

Ban him? Can't say I'd miss him, but there's some top-notch sarcasm in that thread. It's not a total loss.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:26:12 -0800

Silly man. Language is not neccessary for seduction. I simply walk in, order a drink, and sit there licking my eyebrows.

By: loiseau

loiseau — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:26:18 -0800

That question sucks. Totally lame.

By: CKmtl

CKmtl — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:38 -0800

The question's pretty wonky, but I'm pretty sure sexism/racism/whatnot has been covered before... It's the responses that got to me.

-Question about what women like (as broad-strokes as that is)
-Answers from actual women, with years of experience being women and (mostly) having men try to pique their interests.
-'Your answers are pedestrian, and do not gel with my preconceived notions. Wrong.'

Theoretically, there should be a "Profit." step, but I don't see where and how.

By: crabintheocean

crabintheocean — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:33:56 -0800

Taking a look at past questions, this seems to be a thing dropkick does - post something kind of vague/odd, then over moderate/bait.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:34:55 -0800

moderate/bait.

new word: moderbait.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:36:55 -0800

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:37:40 -0800

Honey, I've known nice Mormon boys. NO WONDER he's trying to get laid.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:39:17 -0800

I would say "Women are often said to use qualifiers in language as a marker of deference or uncertainty, seeking validation, which is sometimes thought to be heterosexually attractive. What gendered language styles or patterns do men successfully use to present themselves as sexually available or masculine?" Is that answerable?

That's an awfully verbose way of saying 'how do I talk if want to get laid?" dont'cha think?

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:39:38 -0800

Dropkick is a moderbaitor. Ewww.

By: crabintheocean

crabintheocean — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:41:02 -0800

Women like to watch you moderbait in front of them, (possibly over them). It's sexy.

By: Ambrosia Voyeur

Ambrosia Voyeur — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:41:31 -0800

jonmc: not now that I realize I don't know the answer to it, myself? (though I suspect the answer is "only women talk to be sexy, men DO to be sexy!" amirite?)

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:42:12 -0800

If a moderbaiter manages to seduce a woman, does that make the woman a moderfucker?

By: Listener

Listener — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:43:03 -0800

It's the responses that got to me.[then you quoted part of my response.]

I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. I think lots of things are stupid, but I try not to judge. Clearly in this case, I was wrong to take him seriously at first.

By: saraswati

saraswati — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:43:30 -0800

Metafilter: Make room for the intelligentsia!

By: FlamingBore

FlamingBore — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:46:26 -0800

If it makes you feel any better Listener, I assume everything is stupid until proven otherwise. It really makes for much less thought work in my day. ;)

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:47:01 -0800

Make room for the intelligentsia!

One of Danny Thomas' later projects, co-starring Charlie Rose and Stephen Hawking.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:49:10 -0800

Whoops! Another chronic moderbation spill from Aisle 59581!

By: dropkick

dropkick — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:50:20 -0800

I think there's a good question in there, it's just being mangled so badly by his miseducation and poor, sexist expression. I guess if I were to try and ask it, and I'm certainly no sociologist or gender studies professional, I would say "Women are often said to use qualifiers in language as a marker of deference or uncertainty, seeking validation, which is sometimes thought to be heterosexually attractive. What gendered language styles or patterns do men successfully use to present themselves as sexually available or masculine?" Is that answerable?

No.

However, in hindsight my question certainly could have been worded better since it attracted the lowest common denominator. I despise vulgarity.

My question wasn't how to seduce women, it was how to engage and excite them. There is a difference, although some people have a one track mind.

I'm not afraid to ask a question in class or in church or anywhere else, no matter how stupid it may seem on the surface to some people. Sometimes I actually even get the answer I'm really looking for, and it's worth the trouble.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:51:43 -0800

I despise vulgarity.

*belches*

By: davy

davy — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:52:05 -0800

I'm sure this has something to do with the poor Palestinians.

As for the original question about what to say to get laid, finding some way to casually mention "I have a lot of money" and "my penis is huge" always worked for me.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:53:13 -0800

What he doesn't realize is that all females have a small thermal exhaust port right below the main port. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should result in them instantly falling in love.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:54:07 -0800

Just for the record, dropkick was formerly known as rinkjustice, who was banned for abusing multiple accounts, including one episode where he pretended to be his daughter, if I recall correctly. jessamyn mentioned last October, "We've got a note in the account to keep an eye on it, and if the dropkick account gets out of hand, then it's permaban-by-IP time."

Not commenting on the value of his latest attempt to stir the waters, just noting there's a kinda fucked-up history here.

By: CKmtl

CKmtl — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:54:29 -0800

It might make for an interesting sociology-ish paper. In the event that there's an actual college termpaper in the works, for his sake I hope it's more thought out and written better... I can just imagine a TA going nuts with 'unwarranted assumption', 'source?', 'how does this follow?' margin notes.

By: chococat

chococat — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:55:40 -0800

I despise vulgarity.

Then maybe the cheesy little winking emoticon at the end of this phrase was a bad choice:
FYI: This is for a communications essay I'm researching in college, but I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't personally interested in the answers ;)

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:56:03 -0800

Huh. Well, the thing is... most men only actively try to engage & excite us when they want to get laid. So that made ya suspicious right there.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:56:09 -0800

I can just imagine a TA going nuts with 'unwarranted assumption', 'source?', 'how does this follow?' margin notes.

Interspersed with the occasional 'does she have a sister?" and 'what's her number?' of course.

By: FlamingBore

FlamingBore — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:57:56 -0800

My god, some people just really need better hobbies.

By: cortex

cortex — Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:58:46 -0800

This is a mess. MeTa double deleted, I'm closing this, and that trainwreck of a thread is getting nixed too. dropkick, you've got history with Matt that I'm not up on; please drop him an email if you can't brook the resolution.