Comments on: more inside

more inside

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:57:15 -0800

Dear Y2Karl, For someone who is so pacifist/gun control you sure are a bully about the amount of front page real estate you use to make a post. Was that paragraph so important? Do you have to ram every point down our throats? WE GET IT. YOU HAVE AN AGENDA. PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WHO VISITS THIS SITE UNDERSTANDS YOU DON'T LIKE BUSH. It gets freakin tiresome. More inside is your friend.

By: Aloysius Bear

Aloysius Bear — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:03:25 -0800

At least he doesn't use CAPS LOCK to make his point.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:04:59 -0800

LOLJERKOFFS

By: Mayor West

Mayor West — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:05:51 -0800

</wendell>

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:08:14 -0800

Well, at least he didn't call it a "fucking egotistical waste of monitor ink".

By: Terminal Verbosity

Terminal Verbosity — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:10:37 -0800

vronsky, here's why this little enterprise of yours is doomed:

Does Y2Karl make large, verbose posts? Yes.
Does Y2Karl make freaking awesome posts? Yes.

Equilibrium.

By: kosem

kosem — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:10:58 -0800

This train is never late.

By: muddgirl

muddgirl — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:11:04 -0800

Please don't yell. Thanks.

By: jessamyn

jessamyn — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:13:13 -0800

I like a lot of y2karl's posts. I do find that the big blockquotes break up the page in a way that I (and maybe others) find sort of jarring. I also think that linking to Google search results in a FPP isn't strictly kosher. I'd like to see y2karl get his own blog, but there aren't any rules against the way he interacts with MetaFilter generally. You can always flag him and you can always move on.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:14:04 -0800

Oh, he's mellowed with time. In the days before he got his meds regulated, he would have put that much and more in title tags. As for front page real-estate, eh, the mods will edit him down to the nubbins if it's really that much of a crisis.

But I can tell you this much, no lie -- no amount of yelling, bullying, screaming, ranting or caps locking will ever make that guy change his ways. In fact, all you've done here is add fuel to his fire.

By: Devils Rancher

Devils Rancher — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:14:17 -0800

... because scrolling is hard work!

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:15:42 -0800

shutupshutupshutup!

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:16:02 -0800

He doesn't use the <small> tag anymore. People can change.

By: caddis

caddis — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:16:42 -0800

y2karl has a huge contingent of fans around here who love his posts and his posting style.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:17:12 -0800

sorry for the caps, and I even like karl, but every goddamn week with the same fuckin post. Do I post every article I read to the blue? Does anyone? Before I had even read a word I knew it was karl just from the format. Scroll down one and look how sticherbeast does it karl.

Your posts are like you are grabbing everybody by the lapel and screaming in their face. Are you lonely or something?

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:17:55 -0800

He's pushed miss lynnster's Indian trucker dangerously sexy sexily dangerous sex post off the sexy, sexy front page.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:19:05 -0800

These threads go much better if you picture this guy on the other end of the tubes.

By: juv3nal

juv3nal — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:19:21 -0800

I use RSS. From that POV, y2karl does nothing to bother me, whereas for this callout, since you didn't link the offending thread, I have to actually go to the front page to figure out what you're talking about. Way to go.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:21:14 -0800

"... because scrolling is hard work!"

no because other more interesting posts don't deserve to be driven off the front page for one dude's crusade.

By: PugAchev

PugAchev — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:21:42 -0800

I think it is time for matt to start outright deleting metatalk threads like these to discourage the overuse.

I mean, I really love metatalk and all the stupid inane bickering that goes on here, but this is just stupid, and the last couple of weeks it has gotten worse.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:21:44 -0800

he would have put that much and more in title tags

Crap. I just looked at the thread. Karl, call your doctor.

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:21:48 -0800

My only request for y2karl would be to moderate as much as possible the size of said quotes. I know it can be hard to edit a key passage down past a certain breaking point of brevity vs. clarity, and I'm certain he makes the effort, but a little bit less text on the front page would make a difference to me.

I don't know what my internal tipping point is for Kind Of Annoying, but the block text lands on either side of it from post to post.

The content seems to be damned good—I would in darker disposition lay with my righteous sword a bloody swath through most news/poli/military posts on the front page and still leave y2karl's standing—so putting up with his idiosyncratic (and, importantly, not often emulated) style seems like a reasonable thing to do.

By: 23skidoo

23skidoo — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:22:53 -0800

Your posts are like you are grabbing everybody by the lapel and screaming in their face.

Why is it that most people can just scroll past them then? Go outside for a while.

By: ND¢

ND¢ — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:24:03 -0800

You're right though, being pacifist/gun control and making community blog posts the way he does are completely contradictory. Good call on that one.

By: Elmore

Elmore — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:24:18 -0800

I'm only half paying attention. Is the point of this that y2karl's post pushed puppy love doll down the front page? Because, I don't think that counts as bullying.

By: pardonyou?

pardonyou? — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:24:38 -0800

For someone who is so pacifist/gun control you sure are a bully about the amount of front page real estate you use to make a post

What a strained comparison. "For someone who is so against nuclear war, you sure do hate the Yankees."

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:28:07 -0800

Your callout sucks, vronsky.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:28:37 -0800

yeah, this is why I don't meta much. Cortex said it much better than I. Thanks.

and no, it really isn't that strained a comparison. You are just not very bright.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:28:57 -0800

I'd like to see y2karl get his own blog

I once offered to give y2karl free space on my webserver so he could start his own weblog. He turned me down cold.

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:30:26 -0800

y2karl gets credit for bravely waging his lonely battle against this popular war.

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:30:45 -0800

It's a strained comparison because he's not taking it away from somebody else. You don't bully someone by making a long post on the front page.

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:34:36 -0800

Page Down is your friend.

YOU DON'T LIKE BUSH.

y2karl's current post is about the Vietnam War.

I also think that linking to Google search results in a FPP isn't strictly kosher.

I think the second link in the post was supposed to go here.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:34:38 -0800

It seems like it would be quite trivial to write a greasemonkey script to remove posts from users you didn't like.

It seems like this would be the best solution.

By: Lentrohamsanin

Lentrohamsanin — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:35:00 -0800

Front page is determined by number of posts not number of lines, if I remember correctly. So while I'm not a big fan of taking up a lot of space on the front page, he's only "pushed" one post off, right?

By: crackingdes

crackingdes — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:36:01 -0800

and no, it really isn't that strained a comparison. You are just not very bright.

You know, for someone who hates bullies so much, you sure aren't very nice.

By: 23skidoo

23skidoo — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:37:53 -0800

and no, it really isn't that strained a comparison. You are just not very bright.

If your reason for not liking karl's posts is that they take up too much of the front page, then just say that. What you said was that taking up too much of the front page was wrong for him to do because he is a pacifist who is anti-gun control.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:39:37 -0800

I don't want karl to stop posting, as I said, I like karl, but he could vary it once in a while. And also, I just realized something, one reason this bugs me so much is that I have poor eyesight and need to crank up the size of my font. Turned down to normal, it is not so annoying. Of course if karl really cared about the poor and infirm (small monitors, bad eyes) he would have taken this into consideration.

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:41:34 -0800

yeah, this is why I don't meta much. Cortex said it much better than I. Thanks.

Yes, cortex's comment that "the content seems to be damned good" says "it" much better than "every goddamn week with the same fuckin post". What is "it" again?

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:41:38 -0800

and no, it really isn't that strained a comparison. You are just not very bright.
posted by vronsky at 5:28 PM on April 18 [+] [!]

oh man, and I thought this was going to be boring. i'm gonna grab me some popcorn and settle in.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:41:41 -0800

Oh, now I understand why you used big letters in your metatalk post. It's a handicap thing.

By: sveskemus

sveskemus — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:41:52 -0800

Christ, what an asshole.

By: cillit bang

cillit bang — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:42:56 -0800

Y2karl doesn't care about [etc etc]

By: puke & cry

puke & cry — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:43:08 -0800

He already has his own blog here, apparently.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:43:52 -0800

Of course if karl really cared about the poor and infirm (small monitors, bad eyes) he would have taken this into consideration.
posted by vronsky at 5:39 PM on April 18 [+] [!]

Oh man, you know that feeling when you're standing outside and you can smell a rain storm coming? I feel just like that, except I can smell a timeout in the wind.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:44:38 -0800

This callout has annoyed me more than any of y2karl's content or formatting to date.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:45:05 -0800

hey vronsky, your mother was a hampster and your father smelled of elderberries

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:45:08 -0800

His content is somewhat relevant to the issue in this call out. I think that the mods, and the users in general, tolerate his irritating style (which he has toned down considerably for whatever reason), because he is strongly expressing a message that is quite popular on this forum. I'd like to see if a war proponent would get away with much block-quoting on the front page.

By: jfuller

jfuller — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:45:37 -0800

> More inside is your friend.

I got a little extra "more inside." I happened to look at y2's thread when not logged in, so I got the banner ad, right smack under the "posted by y2karl" byline. Which happened to be "SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION - paid for by McCain 2008." Mojo's workin' today!

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:22 -0800

[whee! I'm topless!]

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:57 -0800

found missing, I doubt a war proponent would be allowed to make more than two or three pro-war posts before they all started getting deleted.

That's just typical of web forums, though. Pro-war people should go find a pro-war forum and talk to each other there.

By: Elmore

Elmore — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:58 -0800

Oh, this is much better than Peaches.

By: box

box — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:49:01 -0800

The McCain campaign is advertising on Metafilter? Of all the ridiculous things I've read in this thread, that one's, well, in the top ten anyway.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:49:08 -0800

i miss the img tag

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:51:33 -0800

More inside is your friend.

More inside is his friend, you know.

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:51:45 -0800

Was the McCain banner surrounded by lots of little helicopters and humvees or did it just wander in here unprotected?

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:52:11 -0800

and no, it really isn't that strained a comparison. You are just not very bright.

Not so much. Shitty callout, shitty comparison, shitty personal attack.

By: 23skidoo

23skidoo — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:52:13 -0800

I think that the mods, and the users in general, tolerate his irritating style (which he has toned down considerably for whatever reason), because he is strongly expressing a message that is quite popular on this forum.

That, or maybe you're wrongly assuming that most people find his style to be irritating. Maybe it just irritates the hell out of a small percentage of users, and the rest really don't care at all.

By: slogger

slogger — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:52:26 -0800

and no yes, it really is~~n't~~ that strained a comparison. ~~You are just not very bright.~~ I am just an asshole.

There, fixed that for you.

By: pardonyou?

pardonyou? — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:53:10 -0800

and no, it really isn't that strained a comparison. You are just not very bright.

Oh. Okay, Einstein. You clearly exist on some higher plane where a person's stance on gun control bears some relationship to how many lines of text they post on an internet forum. I'll just go back to picking my nose and let you dazzle me with your intellect.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:54:42 -0800

That's not [more inside], that's [mostest inside].

By: maryh

maryh — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:54:53 -0800

Some damn middle school punks just stole my little boy's scooter. We're gonna hide behind the hedge and spray them with the garden hose when they come back around the corner. Who's with us?

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:54:55 -0800

“You are just not very bright.”

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Or a vital organ, even.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:57:21 -0800

"Vital" is a value judgment that I would not be prepared to make.

By: jfuller

jfuller — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:57:46 -0800

> i miss the img tag

Not photoshopped.

By: 23skidoo

23skidoo — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:58:52 -0800

Not photoshopped.

Not yet.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:59:04 -0800

[Checks favorites] Jesus Wendell, you are SO predictable...

By: Otis

Otis — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:04:39 -0800

Guns don't kill people. Front page posts kill people.

Oh, wait. No they don't.

By: Floydd

Floydd — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:05:12 -0800

I'm topless too but you don't see ME flaunting it.

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:05:17 -0800

y2karl's blockquotes work the middle and hit the bottom of the page.

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:05:35 -0800

y2karl's over-the-top posting style is over a much, much lower top than it used to be. It's like he used to drive 75 in a 70 MPH zone and now drives 40 in the 35. It's almost cute. He deserves some consideration; after all, his username has been an anachronism for over seven years now.

I hate to envoke my wendell powers here, but...

end vronsky

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:06:44 -0800

but miss lynnster, I made a promise...

By: Wulfgar!

Wulfgar! — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:15:40 -0800

In a savage world, replete with stupid, this callout has *got* to take the cake. vronsky, congratulations! You, sir, are the idiot of the day. y2karl does the same thing over and over and you have a meltdown because of it's predictability? My God in heaven, who gave you permission to use the Intertubes without the knowledge that they're an opt-in kinda thingy?

Now can we please just get on with ogling miss lynnster's magnificent lady parts?

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:20:42 -0800

I made a big pan of date bars and I've got some rich, chocolate Ovaltine warming up in a saucepan.
Let's all have a little snack.

By: slogger

slogger — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:27:45 -0800

Date bars? That's a long way off from cake.

*eyes Dizzy very suspiciously*

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:29:45 -0800

I think it is time for matt to start outright deleting metatalk threads like these to discourage the overuse.

Christ, what an asshole.

In a savage world, replete with stupid, this callout has *got* to take the cake. vronsky, congratulations! You, sir, are the idiot of the day.

Seconded, all three. WTF, vronsky?

On the other hand, I believe I will have some of that Ovaltine. Thanks, Diz.

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:34:54 -0800

Dave Faris writes "In the days before he got his meds regulated, "

Dave Faris writes "Karl, call your doctor."

Dave Faris writes "Oh, now I understand why you used big letters in your metatalk post. It's a handicap thing."

Dave, your ad hominem attacks, implying that another member of the community has medical problems are completely out of line. Even if true (which I doubt), it's none of your business and entirely uncivil. If false, it's also libelous.

It's insensitive and insulting to people real problems and handicaps. It reveals that you're incapable of addressing Karl's arguments and so have to stoop to mud-slinging invective and attempts at personal destruction. It's simply and unequivocally low, slimy, and wrong.

It doesn't belong here. It doesn't belong here about Karl, or about anyone else -- I'd protest as strongly if someone had insulted, for example, dios or anyone of any political stripe, the way you've attacked Karl.

You owe Karl, and you owe the community, an apology. Until and unless that's made, I don't consider you a member of this community. I won't read your posts, or answer your askMefis, and to the extent my opinions are respected here, I encourage others to do the same.

You're behaving very poorly; either man up and apologize or go away from here.

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:38:33 -0800

"Karl, call your doctor."

LIBEL !

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:39:29 -0800

My, what a high horse you have there.

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:40:14 -0800

Dave Faris, you are dead to me and this family.

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:40:44 -0800

note: Help maintain a healthy, respectful discussion by focusing comments on the issues, topics, and facts at hand -- not at other members of the site.
posted by Dave Faris

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:41:46 -0800

Hey, hey. That's a rule on the blue. Not a rule on the grey. Look it up.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:43:11 -0800

I can't remember the last time I bothered to read one of y2karl's FPPs. Thankfully, he uses exotic formatting so I don't even have to read "BUSH SUX PT. MMCIXVLOLIII" in the headline to know it's not the best of the web.

But yeah, y2k's a bit of a sacred cow around here. Good luck with that.

And yes, I'm on record saying political posts are the very worst of MetaFilter (leading to n00bs who for some reason think this is a political site, gee I wonder why?). It's like a circle jerk that anyone can join, and the longer it goes on, the more masturbatory it is. What's worse is the "filter" part of MetaFilter doesn't seem to apply to it, defeating the entire purpose of the site (which is how I define 'bad').

Go ahead, flame me, flametards.

By: Falconetti

Falconetti — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:43:36 -0800

Until orthogonality promises to abjure from making threats, I threaten to boycott all his comments.

By: French Fry

French Fry — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:46:46 -0800

Yes he post a lot about the things he believes in. But he does it well, it’s interesting and maintains a ‘best of the web quality’. Plus they’re usually not damned YouTube links that amount to OMG UTUBE R THE ROXORS!! AV U HERD?? Or even your usual Iraq newsfilter that translates to BUSH WTF! DONGS! I disagree about any y2karl sacred cow crap. no one here is really above reproach. I say let post block text or no.

wishes y2karl would grab him by the lapel and scream in his face, you know to umm… show him who’s boss.. tug his hair a little… call me him condoleza and say he’s very very angry….

…

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:47:41 -0800

There, I just flagged karl's post as "breaking the guidelines"; because starting off with a blockquote should be if it's not. It was simple and painless. I advise anyone likewise tired of it to do the same. The net effect is the same, only you're not universally excoriated for defying the hivemind if it's done privately.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:48:15 -0800

I want to be put on orthogonality's shit list too. I refuse to live in a world where I can't tell people in Metatalk to get back on their meds.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:48:23 -0800

For the record, I apologize to all of you handicapped people who need meds to regulate your moods, including you, Orthogonality. I was being flip about Karl's craziness and about Vronsky's bad eyesight and typing in all caps. It's certainly not a laughing matter. It's very, very serious business. So please continue your important business of whining about Y2karl or vronsky or whoever it was you were mocking before.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:49:18 -0800

You know if you actually look at y2karl's FPP history the assertion "every goddamn week with the same fuckin post" falls apart pretty quickly. Depending on how you slice it... say posts about Iraq, he posts about it often, but not really to excess, since late last Oct, 34 FPP, seven about Iraq. If you expand that to anything remotely military/national policy related you get a number closer to 50%. Hell, a significant number of his posts are about music. I think the comparison of grabbing lapels and screaming into someones face applies more accurately to this call out than y2karls posting style... which given the actual statistics is what this post is really about, you don't like someones posting format. Asking nicely may have gotten you much more sympathy then flailing about making inaccurate statements in a belligerent tone. Heaven forbid you should email y2karl and say, "Say, I appreciate you feel strongly about XYZ, but the way you format you posts makes them hard for me to read, is there any way I could convince you to drop the blocktext on the front page in the future? Thanks karl"

By: chlorus

chlorus — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:50:24 -0800

orthogonality, you are dead to me until you disavow your statement that the Jews did WTC.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:51:14 -0800

Who cares about facts, edgeways. Get back on your meds.

By: who squared

who squared — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:51:17 -0800

I thought the formatting was neat and compact. It's a lot of text but not messy. In fact, I thought maybe the mods had fixed it because really, I don't see the issue.

Plus, I'm almost positive there have been more egregious y2karl posts and other y2karl callouts. There's this whole deja vu thing going on here.

By: Elmore

Elmore — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:51:19 -0800

My god, she just said she was topless. Now will everyone just take a chill pill.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:51:27 -0800

"Plus they’re usually not damned YouTube links"

?????

I'm just sayin'.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:53:35 -0800

There, I just flagged karl's post as "breaking the guidelines"; because ~~starting off with a blockquote should be if it's not~~ I can't stand him and thought I'd make up some guidelines so I could claim he broke them.

There is no "guideline" against blockquote in posts nor should there be; there is nothing wrong with it. I've used it before and will doubtless do so again. Suck it.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:53:50 -0800

Damn, no wonder I was feeling all jiggly inside, no meds, better get back to my paper.

topless

By: mrmojoflying

mrmojoflying — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:56:55 -0800

Metafilter: I used to masturbate too much, but now I call out.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:57:27 -0800

Fredo, you're nothing to me now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do. I don't want to see you at the hotels. I don't want you near my house. When you see our mother I want to know a day in advance so I won't be there. You understand? At least until you take your meds.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:57:52 -0800

hat, I'm impressed at the maturity displayed in your use of the strike tag. It has all the conversational panache of "nyah-nyah nyahnyahnyah!"

It's very easy to refuse to make arguments when you've got the majority behind you. It's right because you like it? Sounds like that truthiness stuff. Oh, right, this whole "political spectrum" is just opposite sides of the same coin, little kids picking teams and characterizing everything as black and white.

By: grouse

grouse — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:01:40 -0800

So is it just me or was Dave Faris much nicer when he was crunchland? Is he singlehandedly trying to disprove John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory?

By: acro

acro — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:01:40 -0800

Could those 'nicetitle' tags y2karl used be added to the posting page/sidebar... they're faster than 'more inside' and look good too.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:02:14 -0800

Suck it my penis, because I am a homosexual.

Haha! I made you say something quite different from what you intended! I win.

By: Floydd

Floydd — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:02:39 -0800

Remember when we used to love Y2Karl?
Y2Karl on Y2Karl.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:04:09 -0800

Dang, I like MPDSEA's better. Can I have a do-over?

By: edgeways

edgeways — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:06:33 -0800

say .. yeah Mat & Jess you should totally interview Y2Karl one of these times for your podcast. Would be interesting.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:07:49 -0800

I don't know if anyone needs to check their meds, but I think we all need to check our calendar's. It's not Saturday (as I previously thought).

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:08:34 -0800

If they could get a word in edgeways, edgeways.

(That's it, boy. You'll work that comment of in the flame mines!)

By: acro

acro — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:08:49 -0800

/ Is there a guide to metafilter html already?

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:09:33 -0800

I know my offering the date bars has caused some consternation.
I apologize.
I just need to grow, keep challenging, keep pushing the cakey envelope.
If I moved on to crepes, or maybe even cinnamon buns, would that be ok?
Just don't ask me to do pie.
I'm not ready.
That would be like closing the bath-house door.
(NOT DESSERTIST)

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:11:41 -0800

Well put Eideteker and edgeways, and karl, if I was screaming at you, sorry. I really do find your blockquotes annoying as they take up most of my screen. But I usually enjoy your non political posts.

the rest of you flametards - wendell, l-hat, pyramid termite (worst username ever) can suck me sideways. In a bathouse.

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:13:45 -0800

Please let us know if you prefer to have your middle worked or your bottom hit.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:14:37 -0800

didn't you just make that joke?

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:15:50 -0800

Bush apologists << y2karl apologists

By: Armitage Shanks

Armitage Shanks — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:16:44 -0800

the rest of you flametards - wendell, l-hat, pyramid termite (worst username ever) can suck me sideways. In a bathouse.

Happy-medded mo.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:18:46 -0800

Did you just call me a mo? (and you have the second worst username)

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:20:48 -0800

To the bathouse!

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:21:49 -0800

no, py-ter and Arm-Sha aren't even in the bottom 20 usernames.

As for vronsky?

just wrongsky.

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:23:33 -0800

I can wrap the date bars to go, if you'd like.
I've got lots of foil. Lots.
The rich, chocolate Ovaltine stays with me, however.

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:25:56 -0800

The bathouse is the place we keep all the bat-shit insane folks.

Pass the date bars, Dizzy (but this does NOT mean we're dating) and get some popcorn from l-hat; this is turning into an entertaining flameout.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:27:14 -0800

I am vengeance! I am the night!

By: mrmojoflying

mrmojoflying — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:28:29 -0800

This is the way the world ends....
This is the way the world ends....

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:30:16 -0800

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:30:48 -0800

This is the way the world ends
Not with a flameout, but a vronsky.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:30:56 -0800

bathousai

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:31:59 -0800

vronsky, you might want to just call it a day.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:32:30 -0800

Armitage Shanks called me a homo. I think that is pretty much all I need to know about Mr. Shanks.

And wendell - not funnysky.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:34:27 -0800

He's been flamed and called out a million times, and it never stops, so what makes you think you can change anything?

no because other more interesting posts don't deserve to be driven off the front page for one dude's crusade.

You mean above the "fold"? Stories are shown by date, not pixel count.

[whee! I'm topless!]

We need the IMG tag back.

By: It's Raining Florence Henderson

It's Raining Florence Henderson — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:38:40 -0800

In my mind, miss lynnster is just a pair of pants with arms sticking out of the waist band, blindly hammering away at her keyboard.

By: eyeballkid

eyeballkid — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:43:11 -0800

New name, same old crunchland.

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:43:32 -0800

Yeah, but her cheek-bones are killer.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:46:00 -0800

the rest of you flametards - wendell, l-hat, pyramid termite (worst username ever) can suck me sideways. In a bathouse.

1) i should have known a humorless wretch like you would have taken that monty python quote seriously

2) i am inexpressibly proud that at long last, i am number one at something on this site

3) in the bathouse, do you hang upside down when you sleep? ... do you flap around blindly when you wanna find a buddy? ... is it located in a belfry? ... is it located in YOUR belfry?

4) ctrl +, motherfucker, do you speak it? (if you used a good browser, like firefox, you would)

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:46:42 -0800

In my mind, miss lynnster is a younger, hotter, more alive Anna Nicole Smith.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:52:05 -0800

Well since this thread has ceased to be topical since about two dozen comments into it, I'd like to take this opportunity to say WHAT THE FUCK? Has fluorination contaminated Metafilter's precious bodily fluids?

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:52:26 -0800

In my mind, miss lynnster is just a pair of pants with arms sticking out of the waist band, blindly hammering away at her keyboard.

That is a goddamned arresting mental image, Flo.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:54:15 -0800

whoa - you got me on a spelling error there didn't you pyramid termite. You must be so proud.

Truth hurts don't it, but hey, it's only 5 bucks. pyramid termite.

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:54:17 -0800

sweet

By: dhammond

dhammond — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:54:25 -0800

The blockquotes are a bit distracting ("Hey, look at me!"), but frankly they don't bother me that much. I just tend to ignore them...the same way I ignore most posts that are from the same person about the same topic.

Thankfully, there's not too much of that across the board since most of y'all have a wider range of interests.

By: juiceCake

juiceCake — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:54:54 -0800

My cock list has a new name on it.

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:54:56 -0800

Hey, stop posting between my comment and the one I'm referring to.

By: jayder

jayder — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:55:00 -0800

Damn, y2karl has made a shitload of Metafilter posts.

I'm impressed; I didn't think anyone had done that many.

(I accidentally tried to post this on his latest MeFi post; I pressed stop while the page was still processing.)

By: edgeways

edgeways — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:55:48 -0800

... / --- /...
... / --- /...
... / --- /...
... / --- /...
... / --- /...
... / --- /...

By: found missing

found missing — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:55:48 -0800

I had a cock list; but, embarrassingly, I ran out of room on my cock.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:56:34 -0800

another question ... how do bats do reach-arounds?

By: supercrayon

supercrayon — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:57:17 -0800

Maybe I'm presumptuous, but I kind of assumed y2karl's posting style was done out of courtesy. The opening paragraph gives you the gist of what you'll find the FPP to be about (for easy skim-then-avoid, if that's your prerogative), and the format on the whole clues you in right away as to who wrote it and what the subject is likely to be. Whether it's aesthetically pleasing or not seems to me to be beside the point.

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:57:29 -0800

Truth hurts don't it, but hey, it's only 5 bucks. pyramid termite.

i changed my user page just for you, batty ...

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:57:48 -0800

cortex---
could we please ban everybody for 24 hours?
A Mass-MeFi Timeout?
Good and Bad, Kind and Cruel, Lurker and Poster.
A Day Without MeFi.
Give us all a chance to take a breath and start fresh.
I'll make the cupcakes.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:58:02 -0800

"In fact, all you've done here is add fuel to his fire."

*a newscaster is in the locker room with vronsky*

Newscaster: How do you plan to fight karl? What's your strategy?
vronsky: Don't need any. karl's so predictable and stupid, the man comes straight ahead. He's tailor-made for me, and he's gonna get hurt.
vronsky: No, I don't hate karl. But I pity the fool. And I will destroy any man who tries to take what I got.

*cue training montage*

*y2karl is pounding furiously at a keyboard.*
"A-S-D-F-J-K-L-; A-S-D-F-J-K-L-; A-S-D-F-H-J-K-Dammit!"

*y2karl stares furiously at a picture of GW Bush, gritting his teeth*
"Grrr! Grrrrrr! GRRRRRRR!!!"

*y2karl is outside with mathowie, running on a beach*
"Wait, what the fuck am I doing outside? I need to be indoors, furiously refreshing nytimes.com and latimes.com!"

By: edgeways

edgeways — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:58:21 -0800

can this thread be closed before someone gets banned?

or... not as the case may be.

By: ericb

ericb — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:58:39 -0800

Pass the date bars, Dizzy (but this does NOT mean we're dating) and get some popcorn from l-hat; this is turning into an entertaining flameout.

Flips open lawn chair. Please pass the date bars and popcorn. Time for refills and 'freshners on drinks. This round's on me. What can I get 'ya'll?

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:00:37 -0800

I'd like a tangy Mojito and some macadamias, thank you.

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:01:30 -0800

So we're all pretty much fully crazy now, huh? Got the old insanity more or less ejaculated straight up into our brains. I'm cool with that. I was just gonna go shit in the sink anyway.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:02:05 -0800

"In my mind, miss lynnster is a younger, hotter, more alive Anna Nicole Smith."

Same here, except for the alive part.

By: sciurus

sciurus — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:02:41 -0800

I've missed you, MetaTalk.

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:02:48 -0800

When the cream sits out too long,
You must whip it.
Just saying.

By: cortex

cortex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:02:52 -0800

I'm impressed; I didn't think anyone had done that many.

You should see that mathowie guy's resume.

By: juv3nal

juv3nal — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:12:13 -0800

You should see that mathowie guy's resume.

Yeah, but that guy's all fluff and no substance, he posts just to rack up a high count so he can lord it over the rest of us peons.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:16:36 -0800

Et2Karl?

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:17:22 -0800

whee, I'm bottomless!

By: Kwine

Kwine — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:23:53 -0800

I have enjoyed reading this thread all the way through. That is all.

By: Eideteker

Eideteker — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:25:54 -0800

*throws a gold dollar down Brandon Blatcher*

*waits for the clink*

By: peacay

peacay — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:35:44 -0800

Armitage Shanks called me a homo.
vronsky beat?

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:44:06 -0800

Trimspa baybeeeeeee!!! You like my torso-less boooodddeeeeee???????

By: Lentrohamsanin

Lentrohamsanin — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:48:58 -0800

Where are the birds?
They're in their house.
They're in their birdhouse.
Where else?

Where are the bats?
They're in their house.
They're in their bat house.
Where else?

By: mrmojoflying

mrmojoflying — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:50:01 -0800

Metafilter: Got more junk in the basement than Rocky Balboa.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:50:42 -0800

I've always liked y2karl's posting style, personally.

/NOT TOPLESS

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:00:02 -0800

MORE OVALTINE HOT PLEASE!

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:11:04 -0800

"another question ... how do bats do reach-arounds?"

ask your mom

By: and hosted from Uranus

and hosted from Uranus — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:11:45 -0800

Man, I feel like I deserve some time off for good behavior after reading this thread.

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:12:26 -0800

So, y2karl makes a post that does not mention Bush, or Iraq, or Cheney, or any current event, and vronsky is moved to write:
YOU HAVE AN AGENDA. PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WHO VISITS THIS SITE UNDERSTANDS YOU DON'T LIKE BUSH. It gets freakin tiresome.

Obviously, karl has to improve his down-the-throat-shoving, 'cause vronsky missed not just the point, but the entire content of that post.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:18:53 -0800

thanks hurf durf kirth, for pointing out the obvious.

By: disclaimer

disclaimer — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:24:32 -0800

ooo burn

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:29:37 -0800

MetaTalk: Grrr! Grrrrrr! GRRRRRRR!!!

What?

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:32:47 -0800

it's gonna be awesome when mathowie comes in here and says "looks like someone needs a nap. vronsky take some time off."

By: LarryC

LarryC — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:33:36 -0800

I hate when someone makes a Metatalk post that I kinda agree with (at least in a more mild form), but then reveals himself to be a thin-skinned lunatic and discredits his original point. But I like it when he takes it to the next level and flames out in his own post. So I am kind of on the fence about this one right now.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:36:58 -0800

vronsky, in general you seem like a good guy, and yes, karl can be a pain in the butt, but I've known him long enough to cut him some slack, especially if I expect him to do the same in return.

By: exlotuseater

exlotuseater — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:45:08 -0800

seriously though. flame out plz.

*brews more Ovaltine Hot*

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:45:35 -0800

vronsky missed not just the point, but the entire content of that post.

thanks hurf durf kirth, for pointing out the obvious.

vronsky has elevated the act of "missing the point" to a Keanu-dodging-bullets-in-The-Matrix level. His density is rapidly approaching that of a black hole (no, I did not say 'black ho'). In other words: [moron inside]. Or should that be moran, GO USA!

this is too much fun

By: ersatzkat

ersatzkat — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:46:10 -0800

I read the whole thing. Languagehat said "suck it". Jagr just scored on an empty net. That is all.

By: sgt.serenity

sgt.serenity — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:52:51 -0800

hmmmmm sand, lovely cool scrunchy go away bad things sand, we need more posts about sand on metafilter.

By: eyeballkid

eyeballkid — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:55:56 -0800

ruh roh, serenity is drunk again.

By: four panels

four panels — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:56:50 -0800

So, many of you post drunk, yes?

vronsky, my oh

I love to get ripped and write.

oh, vronsky

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:57:57 -0800

P.S. -- IRL? I am SUCH a brunette...

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:59:27 -0800

So, many of you post drunk, yes?

You take that back....

*throws empty fifth at wall*

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:59:30 -0800

199 posts wendell - holy shit. 233 favorites. almost 1 to 1 ratio there my friend. Keep trying.

Cool jon, I'm done.

By: nola

nola — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:59:51 -0800

vronsky, no judgements dude, just walk away man. I mean it in the most friendly way.

By: sgt.serenity

sgt.serenity — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:59:52 -0800

Drunk with the power that comes from seeing my name up in lights on the filter sir.........

By: GuyZero

GuyZero — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:00:41 -0800

Man, this was way funnier than that article on Cracked about outlandish rap music quotes.

"hurf durf kirth" - ice burn. oooohhhh

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:05:20 -0800

that's fine, vronsky. I'm just saying that karl has contibuted a lot here. And yes, he's got his axes and hobbyhorses and quirks, but so do you, so do I, so does everybody. If I want toleration for mine, I owe him as much for his. The alternative is a sterile site without the individuality that makes this place intersting.

By: R. Mutt

R. Mutt — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:07:08 -0800

'course if he posted about the positive (sic) side of GWB, the posts would be way smaller.

By: sgt.serenity

sgt.serenity — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:07:55 -0800

anyway, right, there's this thread about political leanings a little bit down the road and i've made this great toga party joke, i'm just so chuffed with it, i'd make it again here but it would lose some of it's power.
So, if like me you're rather dissapointed in this part of the thread not being at all interesting - feel free to go and check that joke out.

By: meech

meech — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:08:11 -0800

I want to post something bad about vronsky just so he'll make fun of my username. But I've got nothing.

By: Haruspex

Haruspex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:09:56 -0800

I8217;ve long been regarded as rather tediously obsessive about all matters typographical—especially the formatting of text—and I've yet to have a whiny hand-flapping hyperventilating red-faced reaction to... blockquotes.

By: Haruspex

Haruspex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:10:29 -0800

Hey! My proper apostrophe!

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:16:14 -0800

Never claimed to be MetaFilter's Favorite Poster. I leave that to y2karl.

But I am holding off on #200 until I find something LEGEN... wait for it... DARY. Yeah, probably a long wait.

Watching jonmc as MeFi Gobetween/Peacemaker just gaveme a mental image of Jimmy Carter with a "Deadwood" moustache. Eep.

May I be the first to say "Haruspex, I've got your proper apostrophe right here."

By: Haruspex

Haruspex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:19:37 -0800

No sir. That, sir, is a tick mark. I am unassuaged.

By: R. Mutt

R. Mutt — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:22:46 -0800

'®

By: jonmc

jonmc — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:24:21 -0800

Watching jonmc as MeFi Gobetween/Peacemaker just gaveme a mental image of Jimmy Carter with a "Deadwood" moustache. Eep.

Heh.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:28:51 -0800

there's definitely some wyatt earp in that moustache, but I'm more strongly reminded of frank zappa, or maybe just Lonesome Cowboy Burt.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:40:48 -0800

"...make fun of my username."

meech and dong, amirite?

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:42:01 -0800

Page Down is your friend.

The problem is his posts fubar the formating of the front page effectively obliterating the clear sign of the next post. He does a dis-service to whomever has the bad luck to post directly before him.

I flag¹ and move on paying special attention to the previous post.

[1]Nothing happens of course so it's a empty victory but that's about all you can do.

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:43:11 -0800

Haruspex, Matt filters hex or decimal entity codes for good reasons. You can either used the named entities, most of which he'll allow, or even the character directly (which is what I do). (Note that U+2019 isn't the right typographical glyph to use for a contraction, IIRC. But I guess it's better than that tick. I don't bother with contractions, though.)

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:46:41 -0800

Pass the Ovaltine. Are there any datebars left?

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:55:25 -0800

I've got three pans of cheese straws baking, but it'll be at least 20 minutes or two flame-outs until they're ready, whichever comes first.
Sit tight and drink your rich, chocolate Ovaltine, ma'am.
We'll take care of you in a jiffy!

By: Haruspex

Haruspex — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:07:53 -0800

Interesting info, Etherial. I was, it should be confess'd, making more of a feeble meta-(Meta-?)joke on self-proclaimed prissiness. To underscore, you know, my implied disdain. But perhaps you were doing something similar, re: I don't bother with contractions...?

But apostrophe's are, or should be, curvy, cute, and and even a touch coy. A tickle, not a tick. Tick marks are indignant little tots, two year olds on their tip-toes.

By: amyms

amyms — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:10:24 -0800

I'm boycotting Ovaltine because the moms in the commercials look like the Stepford Wives and their kids look like Children of the Damned... *shudder*... So I've brought my own Nestle Quik to the thread.

By: amyms

amyms — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:12:34 -0800

By the way, does anyone have a quick synopsis for those of us who arrived late?

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:19:30 -0800

Sure.
amyms hates the taste of rich, chocolately Ovaltine. She doesn't want her loved ones to receive essential vitamins and minerals, instead opting for some cheap knock-off made by a corporation based in Switzerland.
Oh, there was also some blahblahblah about rifles.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:21:32 -0800

Well, apparently I look like this. Aren't you glad you missed that?

By: LarryC

LarryC — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:22:45 -0800

A lot of the good will towards Karl (mine included!) goes back to when he crafted magnificent posts on arts and culture topics. Go to his user page and look through the posts from 2 years ago. Every one a masterpiece. No one has had as many great posts.

Then the war politicized him and he became shrill and repetitive posting (mostly) newsfilter crap. Worse, a lot of Mefites like newsfilter crap, so he gets applause for his sad slide. I blame Bush.

By: amyms

amyms — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:25:06 -0800

She doesn't want her loved ones to receive essential vitamins and minerals

What a shocking allegation!... I'll have you know, I always supplement my loved ones' Nestle Quik with Flintstones Vitamins!

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:31:59 -0800

I garnish my rich chocolately Ovaltine with...NOTHING!
Because the vitamins are already added!
Swissy.

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:33:16 -0800

Not garnishing leaves me extra time to hug my kitties and wash homeless monkeys.
Garnisher!

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:36:48 -0800

Plus I hears that Nestle grinds up bees and puts it in Nescafe and that is why all the bees are gone and Nestle is Swissian for "Inappropriate Hugging", thus the word "nestle" how do you respond?

By: peacay

peacay — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:44:27 -0800

LarryC writes "Every one a masterpiece"

Not to take away from the good posts y2karl has made, but come on man, get some perspective. Retrieving links of work done by other (usually) non-metafilter people is certainly an artform but it is hardly, you know, worthy of the title, 'masterpiece'.

It's really nice to get (and give) pats on the back for finding some wickedly good material to hook people up with. Sometimes it comes in the form of a single quick link and sometimes it comes from prolonged research about a favourite subject. I've done both and in either case my role is not particularly amazing or even special ---- the people who make the extraordinary sites and fill it with wonderous content that keep us coming back here day after day: these are the people that are most deserving of the superlatives and accolades.

By: supercrayon

supercrayon — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:53:37 -0800

B-E S-U-R-E T-O D-R-I-N-K Y-O-U-R O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E...!

Ovaltine? A crummy commercial?! Son of a bitch.

By: madamjujujive

madamjujujive — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:09:19 -0800

I think ur special, peacay.

By: fleacircus

fleacircus — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:12:35 -0800

I believe there is yet room in this thread for my earnest and well-considered thoughts upon the subject of y2karl's posts.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:25:52 -0800

We need the IMG tag back.

Fucken rights; I wanna see them date bars.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:34:09 -0800

Since the old metatalk thread on the subject is closed, and rather than start up a new metatalk thread, I'll just mention this here... I have three Joost invites. Send an email to the address in my profile.

By: stefanie

stefanie — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:40:26 -0800

Oooh... Joost... now this thread is getting good.

By: jacalata

jacalata — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:02:49 -0800

I'm still hanging out for Dizzy's crepes...

By: Sparx

Sparx — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:05:35 -0800

So, many of you post drunk, yes?

[Whee! I'm legless!]

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:08:18 -0800

re: joost. All gone.

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:10:55 -0800

Joost like that?

By: Dizzy

Dizzy — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:12:03 -0800

I forgot to plug in the griddle, so I just guzzled the uncooked batter, sorry.
Now I hate myself and am mixing Doritos and Peanut M & M's in a microwave-safe bowl and you! can't! stop! me!
Soon I'll be adrift in a delicious carbo-coma and life will be fiiiine.

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:22:29 -0800

You know, copy-and-pasting a big old block of Steve Martin funniness is a really cheap way to get favorited. Now, I could've posted a MeTa callout on vronsky for this, but that would have just looked like lashing out for his snarky comment about my Favorites History. In reality, I just found it very very funny near the end of a very very funny day at MetaTalk.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:31:04 -0800

C'mon wendell, you know I love ya. Let's be friends again. In the bathouse.

By: Krrrlson

Krrrlson — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:44:37 -0800

You owe Karl, and you owe the community, an apology. Until and unless that's made, I don't consider you a member of this community. I won't read your posts, or answer your askMefis, and to the extent my opinions are respected here, I encourage others to do the same.

WHO'S WITH ME???

*crickets*

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:47:14 -0800

Hey you guys vronsky is the vice president of my fan club! Ease up!

I kinda see why he is annoyed. At first it kinda bugged me. But then sheer volume of facts emerged from those political posts that are some of my favorite resources now.

Vronsky. It is a plain fact the y2karls posts are consistently excellent if just a bit verbose. Now I don't just say that becuase I his politics align closely to mine.

The music posts y2karl does are phenomenal. In fact several other MeFites and myself have discussed that y2karl should be making MONEY from them somehow. They are THAT good. I have actually brainstormed with myself on how that might happen.

Now at times, like all of us he can be a bit of over-reactionary. At least he sides for the forces of good.

Also, with out I hope embarrassing him, as I understand it y2karl is using a much older PC than 90% of you and an older browser/text application that make it very difficult to get tricky with editing, copying, and pasting. There for his posts take a ton of fucking work.

PS. Yes. Y2Karl - I live less than three blocks from you. Now. Do not be afraid but unbeknown to you WE HAVE MET BEFORE. In fact I walk my dog by your apartment building just about every day. I know this seems like an awkward disadvantage; me knowing you and you not knowing me. Don't worry. Though my posts are very biographical I have an certain net persona that I prefer to keep. Even at the risk of netizens NOT liking me. So your cracks about Almost Live and Ann Coulter ... well don't sweat it... let's say I prefer you just be honest. I don't take any of this stuff personally. Funny huh.

By: miss lynnster

miss lynnster — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:08:28 -0800

Yay! Sanjaya's gone!

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:22:29 -0800

okay, vronsky, I'll meet you in the bathouse, but this time, you have to be Robin. And leave the door open, I'm expecting a delivery of date bars and Ovaltine. (And if Dizzy wants to be the Riddler, let him, he's had a hard day in the kitchen)

But remember, Wendell may cause joint pain, nausea, head-ache, belly-aching or tallness of breath. You may also experience Muscle Beach, rapid drumbeats, and bringing in the sheathes. If you feel loquacious, call your doctor. Do not swallow anything whole while taking this pill. Under no circumstances yak while eating. Men can expect painful urination while standing, especially if you strike your penis on the urinal. Projectile vomiting is common in thirty per cent of statistics. Bowel movements may become the most fun you have all day.You may find yourself becoming a character on "Lost"; this would be a good time to beat up one of the show's writers. May cause stigma against Mexicans. May induce a tendency to compulsively repeat the phrase "WHAT THE FUCK MATT." This drug may cause visions of the Virgin Mary to appear in MetaTalk threads. If this happens, flag it and move on. You may feel a powerful sense of impending doom; this is because Matt is going to bring down the banhammer. Men may experience unimportance, but only during intercourse. Do not take this product if you are uneasy with y2karl. We are assuming you have had wonderchicken pox. You also may experience a growing dissatisfaction with life along with a deep sense of melancholy and a desire to shoot everyone at Virginia Tech - too late! WARNING: Wendell may cause you to yell out "Ow, my spleen!" for comic effect. Women often feel a loss of libido, yeah, I have that effect on women, stop laughing. Discontinue use immediately if your teeth are receiving radio broadcasts of Don Imus. You may experience "lumpy everything" syndrome, but we are actively seeking a cure.

By: wendell

wendell — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:26:40 -0800

I almost forgot: Wendell may also cause loss of Sanjaya.

By: davy

davy — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:25:42 -0800

vronsky, sometimes an MD can be your FRIEND. Not every "wonder drug" is a megelistic plot against you. Have you tried Abilify?

By: davy

davy — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:28:13 -0800

(Sometimes I do wish Karl would use [more inside] more, but that's not worth beating him over given the quality of the content of his posts.)

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:15:36 -0800

vronsky you turf smurf, if it's so goddam obvious, how come you missed it?

By: maryh

maryh — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:28:38 -0800

I'm gonna miss Sanjaya. Maybe he couldn't sing, sure, and I doubt he could have ever made a decent FPP, but for a few fleeting moments he made me believe. In, uh, something.

Wow! I forgot him already! Awesome!

By: Abiezer

Abiezer — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:30:24 -0800

Just chipping in to say that I find the characterisation of y2karl's posts as newsfilter unfair; to my recall he links to substantive analysis from sources I wouldn't find by casual surfing. Those I read leave me better informed.
I also have no problem whatsoever with the formatting; if anything the variety on the front page is a bit of spice.
On balance, isn't it better to let minor annoyances slide rather than add to acrimony in a community?

By: antifuse

antifuse — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:21:07 -0800

Seriously? *THAT* post got you all in a huff? Wow.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:22:28 -0800

Personally, I miss y2karl's old multi-link youtube music posts (which also took up a wee bit more than, um, their fair share of FP real estate) but he pretty much stopped making those after #1 came down on him, as I recall...

Then again, he probably couldn't have gone on with those too much longer anyway: I think he linked to almost everything good on youtube.

By: sugarfish

sugarfish — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:39:21 -0800

Wait, wait. People. Vronsky made a 'your mom' joke. YOUR MOM. I think it's high time we band together and bring these precious fightin' words back into the everyday lexicon.

PS, Jon, that mustache kind of makes you look like Earl. I think it's the flannel shirt.

By: and hosted from Uranus

and hosted from Uranus — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:42:37 -0800

Well I, for one, am keeping my top on for the children. It's absolutely horrible what those ascii boobies did to baby_jessamyn.

By: matteo

matteo — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:58:17 -0800

keep pissing down these people's throats y2karl, god knows they deserve it

By: matteo

matteo — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:58:48 -0800

(metaphorically, I mean)

By: dead_

dead_ — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:03:56 -0800

This is a terrible callout.

By: BozoBurgerBonanza

BozoBurgerBonanza — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:20:20 -0800

"My god, she just said she was topless. Now will everyone just take a chill pill"

Shame on you Elmore...I thought Orthogonality was quite clear on the meds issue, and I repeat:

(Elmore)... you owe the community, an apology. Until and unless that's made, I don't consider you a member of this community. I won't read your posts, or answer your askMefis, and to the extent my opinions are respected here, I encourage others to do the same.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:54:02 -0800

so... this thread is still open, huh?

By: chunking express

chunking express — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:10:18 -0800

I DON'T LIKE THIS THREAD. NOT ENOUGH FLAMING OUT.

By: caddis

caddis — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:15:49 -0800

ay .. yeah Mat & Jess you should totally interview Y2Karl one of these times for your podcast. Would be interesting.
posted by edgeways at 7:06 PM on April 18

That would be most delightful. y2karl is one of the most interesting mefites.

Maybe I'm presumptuous, but I kind of assumed y2karl's posting style was done out of courtesy. The opening paragraph gives you the gist of what you'll find the FPP to be about (for easy skim-then-avoid, if that's your prerogative), and the format on the whole clues you in right away as to who wrote it and what the subject is likely to be. Whether it's aesthetically pleasing or not seems to me to be beside the point.
posted by supercrayon at 7:57 PM on April 18

Exactly.

vronsky missed not just the point, but the entire content of that post. and then had the temerity to say someone else wasn't that bright.

NOT ENOUGH FLAMING OUT. After being such a jerk vronsky really should do us all a favor and flame out in spectacular style, even attempt to surpass all previous flame outs, yet vronsky can't even get that right. Poor vronsky.

By: anotherpanacea

anotherpanacea — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:17:18 -0800

Floating above us,
these blocks of text give clear signs
of the links below

Don't capitalize!
Callouts require a light touch
not hurf durf ANGRY

Ovaltine gives life
Take, seeker, and drink it full
Wow! Egg cream mustache.

Must cease before I
write a poem about reach
arounds [NOT GAYIST]

By: signal

signal — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:26:22 -0800

For someone who is so pacifist/gun control

What does it mean that someone is "gun control"?

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:35:25 -0800

What does it mean that someone is "gun control"?

It is an example of the labored thinking of an exasperated nudnik.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:41:45 -0800

"Wait, wait. People. Vronsky made a 'your mom' joke.'

well pyramid termite brought my mom into it first dipshit, try and keep up. If possible.

Geez caddis, even your flames are boring.

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:50:30 -0800

Hasn't enough momage been done?

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:55:40 -0800

Man, 248 comments and I just notice this. Shows what gardening does for your online time.

I also think that linking to Google search results in a FPP isn't strictly kosher.`

Oh, shit. That was a mistake. Thank you for pointing that out.

It should have been Who Lost Vietnam ?

I had the Galloway review up and remembered that Record had an old article about the Vietnam War in a back issue of Parameters and Googled 'Jeffrey-Record Vietnam,' hoping it had been copied into a friendlier format. Then I clicked on and copied the Google link instead of the Galloway review link when I was composing the post.

Well, if a sympathetic mod reads this, could you please change it.

PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WHO VISITS THIS SITE UNDERSTANDS YOU DON'T LIKE BUSH.

This stuff always cracks me up. I have posted about George W. Bush about three whole times--Frat Boy is SO dyslexic was one, there was one from the pre-title days about a flash animation talking GW Bush sockpuppet you could program to say anything you wanted (complete with, if I recall correctly, friendly dhoyt rhetorical question on 'how was that programmed?'), using snippets from his own speeches and something related to his 'service' with the Texas Air National Guard, and I never mention the guy in comments.

But I get this PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WHO VISITS THIS SITE UNDERSTANDS YOU DON'T LIKE BUSH , evidently especially from the old school anti-Stalinist telepaths who can't tell the difference between the war in Vietnam and the war in Iraq.

Then, LarryC always shows up for these bullshit y2karl callouts, often complaining about the degradations of Newsfilter. Of course, if you look at his history, he comments in other people's newsfilter posts all the time and has even thanked me when the information in my post fit his politics. Hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.

I could accuse him of stalking me if I thought that always commenting about someone in a MetaTalk thread devoted to them amounted to stalking. But I don't, so there it is.

I've got 21 posts so far this year, starting with 57556. As I write, the latest post is 60428. So, 2,851 posts have been made since my first post of the year and made not by me. Man, have I been hogging the site or what ?

I don't post that much anymore and comment even more rarely. But, evidently, when I do, the vronksies from the woodwork crawl out, screaming about how I HATE BUSH. Who is it that needs meds, again ?

By: spock

spock — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:56:50 -0800

Date bars? That's a long way off from cake.

I'm pretty sure that "date bars" is a euphemism, if you know what I mean.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:03:32 -0800

It should have been Who Lost Vietnam ?

Fixed. Goddam registration-only NYT links blah blah blah.

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:03:59 -0800

Damnit, finding this thread today is like showing up to a gangbang and they're already dismantling the cum-catcher.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:04:51 -0800

In fact I walk my dog by your apartment building just about every day.

Well, I hope you aren't the guy I yelled at for letting his Corgi-ish type dog poop in the flowerbeds in the parking strip. It wasn't a fair call. Even though he did yell "You don't need to raise your eyebrows at me!" when I raised said eyebrows. He did pick it up. And I plan on apologizing to him the next time I see him.

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:05:17 -0800

well pyramid termite brought my mom into it first dipshit, try and keep up. If possible.

Wait wait wait there's hope! REASSEMBLE THAT CUM CATCHER BOYS.

By: NationalKato

NationalKato — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:07:34 -0800

vronsky, if you want a site customized to fit your handicap and political opinions, perhaps MetaFilter isn't the site for you? I mean, this callout...really?

By: caddis

caddis — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:07:45 -0800

y2karl, please don't change a thing about your posts. They are among the finest on MetaFilter. Rather than just simple politics or news you find interesting bits that go deeply into an issue. Reading your posts is like attending a college course on the issues you cover. Keep up the great work.

By: NationalKato

NationalKato — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:10:38 -0800

I second caddis' comment above.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:22:44 -0800

Dipshit? That's itm the Internet has COMPLETELY LOST CONTROL OF ITSELF, and I AM OUTTA HERE!

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:22:57 -0800

I'm back!

By: spock

spock — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:27:11 -0800

Exactly when were you gone?
: )

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:58:17 -0800

Thanks for chiming in nathancaswell. Unfortunately your comments are about as interesting as your cliche ridden videos. You sure can edit on the beat though. Nice.

Show them to matteo, he'll love them.

By: languagehat

languagehat — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:03:17 -0800

the old school anti-Stalinist telepaths

Damn, I miss them. All the telepaths these days just don't give a damn about Stalin.

Also, what caddis said.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:03:27 -0800

HUMAN SACRIFICE! DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:05:14 -0800

And, as the evidence suggests, if there's any topic vronsky's got covered, it's cliche ridden. It's like watching plaint dry.

By: PugAchev

PugAchev — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:05:44 -0800

cortex, can you close threads?

there are a few on the main page of meta that need closing and this is one of them.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:08:48 -0800

Leave my plaint out of this karl. That is hitting below the belt.

By: monju_bosatsu

monju_bosatsu — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:23:11 -0800

cortex, can you close threads?

Good God, man, have you lost your mind?

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:25:40 -0800

I'd say. If this thread were closed on his schedule, we never would have seen watching plaint dry.

By: fidgets

fidgets — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:42:10 -0800

My name is vron vronsky,
I live with your momsky,
I troll on my computer there.
The people I meet,
When I walk down the street,
They ask me my name and I say...

*with apologies to KVjr
and anyone else who doesn't find this amusing. even vronsky.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:50:05 -0800

can i favorite figets more than one time? i really want to.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:51:35 -0800

also, I am very interested in knowing what vronsky's motivation is in consistently coming back to this thread to lob a limping little "your mom" at somebody. then again, I always want to know why some people seem so hell bent on flaming out.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:54:43 -0800

cortex, can you close threads?

I can. Last time I shut down a couple of particularly ugly and stupid ones—uglier and stupid than this one has become—there was a kind of manic outcry. I'm not personally bothered by the outcry per se, but insofar as it's a barometer of the metatalk subcommunity zeitgeist, I'm inclined to leave this shit to hang open for the time being and let people get it out of their systems.

vronsky is managing to lead a normal mefite life outside of this thread, and things haven't been outstandingly nasty, so I figure, enjoy the lawn chairs and popcorn and silly riffage here and keep it out of the rest of the site, neh?

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:58:07 -0800

Oh snap, he insulted the commercials I get paid $600 a day to edit!

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:00:14 -0800

(on the beat)

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:03:05 -0800

vronsky is managing to lead a normal mefite life outside of this thread...

Yeah, he's reloading and making an info packet complete with two guns and a backwards baseball cap self portrait for MSNBC as we type...

By: kosem

kosem — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:11:54 -0800

::Summons the Sound Machine::

One, Two, Three, Four, Come on vronsky say you'll flame out...

Five, Six, Seven ti-imes

Eight, Nine, Ten, Eleven...

I'm just gonna keep on countin'
Until you are fun-ny.

By: kosem

kosem — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:18:47 -0800

(Or until, you know, I completely fuck up the html in my comment so no one knows what I'm talking about.)

By: kosem

kosem — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:23:50 -0800

Ahem, that is: 1, 2, 3, 4,5,6,7,8,9,

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:08:16 -0800

okay, vronsky, I'll meet you in the bathouse...

The bathouse, Wendell? Really? Is this a meetup picture?

By: spicynuts

spicynuts — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:17:54 -0800

No wonder Anna Karenina threw herself under a train.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:28:58 -0800

Languagehat touched my plaint once, in a bathouse. He said it was megelistic.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:31:45 -0800

"Oh snap, he insulted the commercials I get paid $600 a day to edit!"

philistine chooses money over art, film at eleven.

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:34:54 -0800

Exactly. Film at 11. Pay me enough money and I'll edit a snuff film. On the beat.

Alhough I gotta say, it's pretty choice seeing accusations of cliche thrown around by someone who used a "your mom" joke earlier in the thread.

By: Terminal Verbosity

Terminal Verbosity — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:40:25 -0800

Everyone knows that the best snuffs are uncut single-shots.

What? Why's everyone looking at me?

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:45:03 -0800

Not even jumpcuts? I like jumpcuts almost as much as I like flashframes.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:46:23 -0800

The cut means it's not real.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:46:44 -0800

That's right, vronsky, a true artist will not accept money for his or her art. Michelangelo just wanted to paint that ceiling. van Dyck just wanted to paint all those fat cat nobles. Anonymous Egyptian Slave Dude just wanted to chisel some dork's face on a cat in the middle of the desert.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:48:01 -0800

That's how I know I'm a real fiction writer - no one has offered me any money for my $tories.

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:50:02 -0800

No he's right, what they pay me to do isn't art. It's business. It's income that allows me to do what, hopefully, one day might be.

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:00:46 -0800

As stupid MetaTalk call- and flame-out threads go, this one has become more tedious than engaging. Bring on the dancing midgets with their nimble little feet or hie thee back to obscurity. Hop, hop!

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:02:52 -0800

I hear you nathancaswell, but the point is, artists need money to live. The luckiest of us can make a living from our art, but most can't. That "you're a sellout because you make money using your creative skills" line never fails to irritate me.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:08:17 -0800

What a euphonious nickname EB. I'm guessing "pretentious douchelord" was taken?

By: and hosted from Uranus

and hosted from Uranus — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:20:34 -0800

Are you really gonna everybody in this thread names, vronsky? People slip up and start in with the name calling sometimes. I know I've had a lapse or two. But I've never seen somebody hurl crap at such a variety of folks in a single thread before. They usually cool down after a few hours. It's beginning to seem like nothing short of a timeout is gonna help here.

By: spicynuts

spicynuts — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:22:24 -0800

This must be some kind of experiment. Either that or it's now just an in joke between asswipes that know each other in reality.

By: kosem

kosem — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:22:43 -0800

Blow windbag! Crack thy cheeks! Rage! Blow!
You momjokes and hurricanoes, spout
Till you have drenched our steeples, bucketed the cocks!

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:23:23 -0800

oh shit! man, you are really showing us all just how right you are and how wrong it is to criticize you.

it's a shame mathowie and jessamyn aren't around to see what a shining example you're setting.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:24:19 -0800

The best defense is a good offense.

And when you can't do that, start calling people names.

By: brain_drain

brain_drain — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:28:00 -0800

I'm guessing "pretentious douchelord" was taken?

That's a pretty cool username, actually.

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:34:00 -0800

“I'm guessing ‘pretentious douchelord’ was taken?”

Ah, would that I were the Lord of Douche, Protector of the Crown, Viscount of Cervices, and Duke of Working the Middle. Alas, I am but a common man with a cultivated taste for the fleet-footed antics of adorable little midgets. I had such high hopes for you when I heard of your attendance at the ball. You disappoint me.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:46:14 -0800

Upon re-reading this, I also like it that Eideteker aka The Wiki Trickster is so concerned about people selfishly mis-using the site and violating posting guidelines. No ego going there.

Wiki wiki wiki!!!

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:46:48 -0800

Well I was gonna try and bow out gracefully uranus, but then I figured in for a penny, in for a pound. And if you can show me where I insulted someone (other than karl - to whom I apologized in thread already) who didn't pop in to the thread and slag me first, go ahead.

OK shmegegge, you obviously need some attention, so I will just say that your username is apt. Keep it.

And l-hat, you can put your dictionaries away now, you will just have to ask davy what megelestic means.

And karl, other than this meta, I have never been anything but nice to you, even complimented your writing once when we were discussing Dandelion Wine. And as I just stated, I apologized in the thread already, so for you to pull out the Cho references was not classy, and now I really don't like you. So fuck off you lonely little twit.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:53:22 -0800

OK shmegegge, you obviously need some attention, so I will just say that your username is apt. Keep it.

ba-dump bump!

By: Terminal Verbosity

Terminal Verbosity — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:58:34 -0800

Wait, did you just tell languagehat to ask someone else what a word means? All right, this just isn't funny any more.

I mean, he's got language right there in his username! Will you mock his taste in headwear next?

And will you ridicule my username next? Please? I asked in an extra small font just to piss you off...doesn't that count for something?

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:01:33 -0800

I've never said this before, but there's a first time for everything: GIB IMG TAG ADMINZ

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:04:26 -0800

Terminal Verbosity? More like Terminal Asshatrocity, amirite?

I know you wanted vronsky to insult you, but I figured since I took the time to read your mouse-type it was fair game.

By: ericb

ericb — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:05:48 -0800

Well I was gonna try and bow out gracefully uranus

Believe me...bowing out of any anus is rarely done gracefully.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:19:45 -0800

I'M DON IMUS, BROADCASTIN' IN UR TEETH!!!

By: ND¢

ND¢ — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:21:54 -0800

I made a comment like 400 comments ago, so in checking "My Comments" to see if people have said something like "OMG ND¢ that was the most brilliant thing ever said" in other threads that I have commented in since (seeing that makes the pain and self-loathing go away for a few seconds) this damn post keeps popping up. I have not really been paying attention to it, but it appears to be a mob ganging up on someone who may in fact deserve some chastisement, but probably doesn't deserve a group swirlie from the cool kids, so lets wrap this up.

Nothing more to see here. Everybody just go home.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:33:21 -0800

He keeps getting up, like some creature from a movie where the creature keeps getting up.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:42:15 -0800

y2karl writes "I've got 21 posts so far this year, starting with 57556. As I write, the latest post is 60428. So, 2,851 posts have been made since my first post of the year and made not by me. Man, have I been hogging the site or what ?"

Maybe there is something about your posts that makes them stand out above the rest to the casual observer?

By: breezeway

breezeway — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:45:15 -0800

I'm watching what was once a delicious kung po chicken lunch noisily swirl its way to oblivion. It amazes me to think there was an egg roll somewhere in that mess.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:58:10 -0800

The cowboy hat ?

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:13:41 -0800

That, or the lifts.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:46:02 -0800

such witty banter Karl, more please.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:52:03 -0800

"Alas, I am but a common man with a cultivated taste for the fleet-footed antics of adorable little midgets. I had such high hopes for you when I heard of your attendance at the ball. You disappoint me"

translated - "your comment hurt me deeply and I am ashamed to admit it, I secretly worry that lots of people think I am pretentious, so I will twitter around for a while so no one can see me cry."

By: Kirth Gerson

Kirth Gerson — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:01:22 -0800

Well, there's the telepathy. Where's the anti-Stalinism?

By: pyramid termite

pyramid termite — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:09:33 -0800

my dinner with vronsky

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:32:15 -0800

Truth be told, vronsky, that was a tad over the top, but, on the other hand, other than The Wiki Trickster, I have not called anyone here names, certainly did not call them stupid, and other than pointing out the kettle black of you labeling anything anyone else wrote here as cliche ridden, I've tried to eschew direct derogation.

But, other than that one little zinger, what have I said to you ? Nothing. You made this post, you ran me down, you impugned my motives. And showing some heat in the process, you have called more than one person names and ran them down when they criticized you in the same manner. In reaction to being called out, you feel compelled to answer every sally.

Gee, it's not fun having people you've never met criticize you, is it ? And, gee, doesn't it look dumb when someone tries to try to duke it out with the whole room ? We all seem to remember this from time to time... and then we forget.

And you were on my case just a couple of days ago, if I recall correctly, accusing me, in not demonizing them sufficiently to your tastes, of eulogizing the 9/11 hijackers. And there were the comments concerning the gun control. And that post about the Vietnam war. So, it appears to me that I've gotten under your skin. And, to tell the truth, it came as no real surprise to see your name on this post.

This is the thing I have learned--it's always personal. People pay lip service to the 'community' but callouts by name are invariably personal.

Or personal and political. No one ever posts on MetaTalk about the format when the posts are about, say, documentary films, R.A. Lafferty, Paramount Records or Kids, the Internet, and the End of Privacy.

Someone got their panties in a twist about something said another time in another thread or two and stewed and stewed and then he made a dumb post and then got called on it and then got mad because all those people then said unkind things about himself--a nice person these strangers have never met. Not that he ever did anything like that to anyone here... How utterly unfair! Ding-a-ling, so it blows and all that.

By: sugarfish

sugarfish — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:33:38 -0800

Aw, vronsky, I was complimenting you! I heartily support more your mom battles.

I haven't been called dipshit since my little sister was eleven. Then we graduated to more creative insults -- I was always fond of "bristle-throated cunt." Anyway, as long as you're not chasing me with a buzzing cicada, we're good.

By: Ethereal Bligh

Ethereal Bligh — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:36:21 -0800

Don't look at me when I cry! *cries*

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:13:22 -0800

I like you, vronsky. You're not like the other people here, in the trailer park.

By: juiceCake

juiceCake — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:41:43 -0800

That new name on my cock list is rapidly moving from the bottom toward the top. You can get there!

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:09:51 -0800

It's tempting "blazecock", but no dice.

And I am proud to be on your list juicecake. Whatever it is. I need some cake and juice right about now.

And EB, apologies, you thrusted, I parried, but wish I had just let you run me through.

And karl, nice theories, but wrong as usual. I have never read any of your political posts. Not one. Nor anyone's political posts. It is not what I visit mefi for. And the eulogy shit was one line, and not mean at all, if you go back and look. But I already said sorry to you, unlike your half assed apology for the cho remark, and if you had read my recent comment that I had family and friends who attended Va Tech, then shame on you, no wonder you are a bitter, lonely, unloved person. Let's agree to remain enemies shall we? Go sharpen your slingblade. Karl.

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:27:28 -0800

Everyone still crazy then? Awesome.

By: spicynuts

spicynuts — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:32:22 -0800

you are a bitter, lonely, unloved person.

You're now going on almost 30 hours of flogging your dead horse and you're calling Karl bitter, lonely and unloved?

Perhaps your time might be better spent talking with those friends and family who attended Va Tech. They may need you more than this thread does.

By: peacay

peacay — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:02:39 -0800

I have 2 things to say...

--vronsky, for your own sake, walk away from this thread. Don't type anything more. Seriously.

--madamjujujive, will you marry me?

By: Lentrohamsanin

Lentrohamsanin — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:04:28 -0800

A while ago I started writing very short stories about the Kennedy assassination. It didn't really work out. Here's one:

Let's all go to the MOTHER FUCKING AIR SHOW! I hear they've got the biggest damn helicopters you ever seen, and they're made out of solid gold! I'm serious: they even run on liquid gold. Can you believe it? I do. They've also got a zeppelin, filled with a mix of hydrogen and nitrous oxide! They're having to fight off the huffers with sticks and fire hoses!The security guys are all like “Get back! It'll explode! You'll explode!” and the huffers are all like “We doan' care, mang, we jus woan git hiiiiiiiiigh.” It's totally true!

They've got that plane JFK died in. For reals yo, it turns out the Dallas motorcade was actually, like airborne? So Jack and Jackie were in this open cockpit sopwith camel which Jack was, by the way and just for your information, piloting himself like the stud he was. And all the people watching them were on these bleachers held up by hot air balloons. Big mothers those balloons, and they had the flag on them, which means they still have them hovering over Dallas to this day, 'cause if the balloon touches the ground that counts as the flag touching the ground.

Anyway, JFK is doing a celebratory series of barrel rolls for the crowd when suddenly BLAM BLAM BLAM his head is gone! The plane's going out of control, Jackie's totally losing her shit, nobody knows what's going on. As a last act of reflexive heroism, the President's headless body hops up on the canvas of the plane, pulls Jackie out of her harness, straps a parachute on her, hurls her screaming over the side, and then collapses dead.

About ten minutes later they find Oswald, moping in a personal auto-gyro, still clutching his rifle and just totally pondering the motherfucking magnitude of the shit he has just done.

By: found missing

found missing — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:07:41 -0800

Didn't really work out; but you knew that.

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:09:02 -0800

I've resisted using the term "flogging your dead horse" towards karl this entire thread. Been thinking it the entire time though. Are you a russian telepath? Can you tell what I am thinking right now?

Wrong - I was thinking that you have a nice photo blog. Seriously. I bookmarked it. And good advice. And you are a good person spicynuts.

And my uncle, who attended Tech in the 50s has passed on. And I have been in touch with my friends, one is inconsolable right now. The other is more angry than sad. I am a little of both.

By: found missing

found missing — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:11:05 -0800

Hey, I thought your parents would have hidden your keyboard by now.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:17:01 -0800

Keep milking it, baby. You got to grab what little fame you can by the teets and hold on tight, right? It's just like a rodeo... You're riding a wild bull! Except, it's on top... and female... And all the clowns are running all around, but they're trying to distract you, instead of the cow. It's like a bizarro rodeo.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:30:00 -0800

bizarrodio

By: vronsky

vronsky — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:41:31 -0800

"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."

By: Samuel Farrow

Samuel Farrow — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:06:33 -0800

Okay, okay, I have lost track - who is getting voted off the island?

By: kosem

kosem — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:06:46 -0800

vronsky: y2karl, how many men you killed? (pause) Ain't you gonna answer?

y2karl: I don't like the question.

vroksnky: Well, I gotta know what kind of fellas I'm ridin' with, don't I? In case of a scrape.

y2karl: How many you killed, vronsky?

vronsky: Five. I killed five of 'em. That counts a Mexican I killed. He come at me with a knife.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:08:28 -0800

for god's sake, someone give this kid a timeout.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:09:19 -0800

holy shit, kosem, is that an "Unforgiven" reference?

By: davy

davy — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:11:15 -0800

"Let's all go to the MOTHER FUCKING AIR SHOW!"

What it is with intergenerational incest these days? Did I miss another memo? And does it have to be aerial, I'm afraid of heights.

By: cgc373

cgc373 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:15:20 -0800

Definite Unforgiven reference. A couple of weeks ago, Ethereal Bligh talked about the movie, too. Must be something in the HTML, lately.

By: kosem

kosem — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:15:25 -0800

Claro, shmegegge. Not my first here, and probably not my last.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:19:07 -0800

fucking love that movie. just thought i'd mention it.

By: caddis

caddis — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:29:52 -0800

vronsky is a putz, no passion, just limp retorts. We can not have fun with putzes. We need virile young passionate types if we are going to have something to roast our marshmallows over. She calls everyone names, but fails to follow the thread and invoke true passion. Vronsky doesn't even get the mallow to start turning color. meh. This thread is dead, dead, dead I say. Blame vronsky for your uncooked marshmallows.

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:36:14 -0800

Sic transit gloria mundi.

By: wendell

wendell — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:53:37 -0800

Sic transit Gloria Estefan.

By: Burhanistan

Burhanistan — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:56:56 -0800

Sic transit a fetal ogre sin.

By: cortex

cortex — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:18:30 -0800

mass transit going eastbound

By: y2karl

y2karl — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:21:41 -0800

I feel bitter...
I feel bitter and lonely unloved!
And I envy, let us say,
Vronsky's joi de victim vivre, Ray!

It’s a pity
Such self-pity
Ends up in a pity party of one!
It's such a disgrace
To put egg on your face,
Then have everyone say ho hum

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:37:13 -0800

BLARG IM DED

By: octobersurprise

octobersurprise — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:10:21 -0800

I got a little extra "more inside." I happened to look at y2's thread when not logged in, so I got the banner ad, right smack under the "posted by y2karl" byline. Which happened to be "SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION - paid for by McCain 2008."

For another 5 bucks, McCain can troll Metafilter himself.

By: Divine_Wino

Divine_Wino — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:11:02 -0800

OF COURSE SURRENDER IS AN OPTION, AS IS RUNNING AWAY, AS IS JUST DRINKING A WATER GLASS OF SCOTCH FOR BREAKFAST AND SPENDING THE REST OF THE DAY HIDING UNDER THE COVERS LISTENING TO COUNTRY MUSIC ON YOUR HEADPHONES. ALL THREE OPTIONS ARE BETTER THAN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OR GETTING BLOWED UP IN IRAQ OR WHATEVER THE FUCK IT IS MCCAIN WANTS TO DO.

By: nola

nola — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:21:06 -0800

Unforgiven is a great film, so is the Wild Bunch.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:25:42 -0800

Unforgiven would be one of the bestest films EVAR, if Eastwood could direct actors... outside of the principals, everyone sucks in that movie, a buncha CanCon no-talents who totally squandered an opportunity to do something more than Honey Nut Cheerio Commercials and syndicated sci-fi filler crap.

The Wild Bunch is so freaking wonderful it makes me cry.

By: tkchrist

tkchrist — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:34:28 -0800

letting his Corgi-ish type dog poop in the flowerbeds

Nope. Not me. I've not seen a corgi in the neighborhood? We have 50lb border collie.

I always pick up my dogs shit. And I doubt you'd "yell" at me anyway. Unlike my pissy sarcastic net persona I am way too likable.