Comments on: Subsite For the Election?

Subsite For the Election?

cell divide — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:15:53 -0800

election08.metafilter.com ?

I'm a long time member of this site and have always been very vocally against setting up stuff like news.metafilter.com, politics.metafilter.com, etc. However now I'm changing my tune. I feel that the community has grown to the point where there are enough interested and interesting people to make a subsite just for election stuff entertaining, enriching, and enlightening. Very little of what happens during the campaign will be "best of the web" but I still want to hear what the intelligent, involved people around here think about the daily political news. I have come to rely on this site as a way of gauging opinions of people I trust, and this would be a way to keep that going during the election. Unlike a general politics or news filter, this would be timed and as of nov 4th, would cease to exist, so there would no long term damage to the Blue. I know there are always calls for subsites, and they are usually shot down; I know mathowie is not that into them, but perhaps in this one case this is a chance to enrich the community, not detract from it? Thoughts?

By: cell divide

cell divide — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:17:41 -0800

Heh, reviewing my own posting history I asked for a news and politics subsite back in 2001. But, I swear that SINCE THEN I've been against topic-specific subsites. I promise.

By: phrontist

phrontist — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:19:08 -0800

Seconded.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:21:14 -0800

They suggest this every election. it never happens.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:23:33 -0800

I think it quickly runs into the problem of setting a very low bar for what gets posted and would turn into a partisan corner of the site where people post absolutely everything. I don't really want to run or moderate a daily kos style dumping ground and think it'd be bad for the site overall.

I hope we can limit ourselves to maybe 1 election post every few days instead of several a day and we'll continue to delete minor election news stories as they pop up here and hopefully just stick with the major turning points.

By: meech

meech — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:31:48 -0800

Days since Metafilter has been election free: 4

By: puke & cry

puke & cry — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:43:04 -0800

everyotherfuckingelection.metafilter.com

By: delmoi

delmoi — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:45:39 -0800

However now I'm changing my tune.

To bad this isn't a democracy.

Also, TPM's election central sub site has fairly decent comment system now. The quality of the discussion isn't as great as it is on metafilter, but it's not terrible. Certainly not DKos levels. here is their comment section talking about the end of the debate that just happened. There are ... seven threads on the site just about that debate. So you can really fill up on all the commentary you could possibly want.

I know it's not the same, but it's not too bad. I do like having one thread or so a week here. I think too much gets really old, and frankly I'm getting sick of this primary :P

By: patr1ck

patr1ck — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:57:52 -0800

I vote yes.
*goes to hide the fact he's canadian*

By: Ironmouth

Ironmouth — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:59:45 -0800

No.

By: LarryC

LarryC — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:08:37 -0800

Yes.."

By: tkolar

tkolar — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:11:30 -0800

Hey Look! An election thread!

By: cell divide

cell divide — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:11:35 -0800

I hope we can limit ourselves to maybe 1 election post every few days instead of several a day and we'll continue to delete minor election news stories as they pop up here and hopefully just stick with the major turning points.

This is ultimately the only answer that matters, and the best one. I do think though on the other point, the question of if MeFi could do a politics site well, I think it could, as long as the proper tone was set early. I think it could self-police with the best of them.

The quality of the membership is what I value most about this site, it would be cool to get more political commentary from the interesting minds here, but I can also see how instead of being complimentary, like AskMe, it could end up an unneeded distraction.

By: tkolar

tkolar — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:14:30 -0800

I think Matt should open an election subsite, with the caveat that if you post to it you will never be allowed to make another post *ever* to the main site.

By: octothorpe

octothorpe — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:17:14 -0800

Maybe I haven't been paying close attention but it doesn't seem like there have been too many election threads lately. Is this really a problem?

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:20:14 -0800

Just post supplementals to current ObamaFilter/ClintonFilter/McCainFilter FPPs as appropriate. When those get unwieldly, the admins can close them after 500 or so comments, and then the party can be carried over to the next interminable funfest.

Or, y'know.

By: Effigy2000

Effigy2000 — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:22:24 -0800

"Yeah, keep this thread running. May it serve as an example to all the American politics nuts who insist on starting a new post every time Hillary takes a shit."

By: EatTheWeak

EatTheWeak — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:26:27 -0800

I understand the reservations about this idea - it stands a chance of becoming a huge, festering distraction and would likely attract the oiliest of astroturfers on a daily basis. Only religious threads go sour faster than political threads, and I wonder if elections.metafilter.com would need a metatalk.elections.metafilter.com of its own.

Nonetheless, I'm all for this idea. Metafilter is my absolute favorite place for online discussion - this is a fascinating election, and I'd love the opportunity to talk it over with Mefite politics addicts on a regular basis. There's a lot of ways it could go wrong, but it could be something really special if it goes right. And with such a site in place, the blue would never be marred with a political thread.

Metafilter's executive branch has spoken on the matter, of course, so no big deal.

By: spiderwire

spiderwire — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:39:00 -0800

Speaking as an Obama supporter, this thread is a good example of why PoliticsFilter totally sucks. The comments don't improve it, either. Seriously. Ew.

By: TheOnlyCoolTim

TheOnlyCoolTim — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:44:14 -0800

DO NOT WANT

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:46:57 -0800

Here in Japan erection threads are more popular, but maybe that's just because they have a problem.

With Ls and Rs.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:47:18 -0800

I am interested in reading and participating in discussion about the American election in exactly one place on the internet: Metafilter.

That said, I would not want to see a dedicated subsite, for the exact reasons that mathowie and others have outlined already, now and in the past. DO NOT PARTICULARLY WANT.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:49:28 -0800

Here in Japan erection threads are more popular, but maybe that's just because they have a problem.

One can't help but notice here in Korea that erection season is a lot shorter than the average one in America. Oh god I'm going to hell for that.

By: timeistight

timeistight — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:00:37 -0800

election08.metafilter.com

Actually, an election this year is looking less likely. Perhaps election09.metafilter.com?

By: Artw

Artw — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:14:33 -0800

With Ls and Rs.

Dude, we got it, ok?

By: tkolar

tkolar — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:28:36 -0800

stavrosthewonderchicken writes...
Oh god I'm going to hell for that.

For actually WANTING political newsfilter posts on Metafilter? Yes, you are definitely going to hell.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:46:57 -0800

Wow, I was just about to come here and post that an election fever subdomain was really the best way to keep election politics crap from defiling the blue. It won't be me, but people are going to continue to post annoying election politics links.

mathowie writes "I hope we can limit ourselves to maybe 1 election post every few days"

They can't say you're not an optimist.

By: tkolar

tkolar — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:12:15 -0800

mathowie writes "I hope we can limit ourselves to maybe 1 election post every few days"
They can't say you're not an optimist.

An optimist with delete access to the thread database...

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:12:20 -0800

What election? WHAT HAVE I BEEN MISSING?

By: tkolar

tkolar — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:14:04 -0800

WHAT HAVE I BEEN MISSING?

A pony cross-breeding that will result in the creation of a Metafilter subsite strictly for political polls, no discussion allowed.

By: iamkimiam

iamkimiam — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:26:04 -0800

This is a very Ameri-centric idea and so I don't see how or why it could or should fit into Metafilter. The non-emotionally-laden equivalent would be if we had a cat subsite, and can you imagine that sh*t?!?!

*I do realize that for many, cats are a very polarizing topic, rife with emotional baggage and warm fuzzies, but it was the most "neutral" thing I could think of.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:37:10 -0800

Yeah see, I'd totally back a PolMe subsite that had strict entry and heavy attack moderation, sometimes the political discussion here is effing sublime. Otherwise I think it would get to be like those fucking, yes I said it, fucking, comment sections that CNN and MSNBC have on their little news blurbs that end up with people sexually abusing exclamation points and yelling at one another, where thoughtful comments are like one in thirty, and god-damned methed-out, rabid, chipmunks make much more sense and are more thoughtful.

I'd even shell out an extra (or actual my first $5, shhh) for such a maintained site.

By: Abiezer

Abiezer — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:40:55 -0800

I've been wondering what it is about the Obama (et al) minutiae I find so off-putting. I realise the bulk of the user base here is in the US, so it shouldn't be surprising that some early campaign incident attracts more debate than something far more significant, like say the recent Pakistani elections. But it does leave me somewhat dismayed. And I much prefer feeling mayed, if it's all the same to everyone else.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:55:47 -0800

For actually WANTING political newsfilter posts on Metafilter? Yes, you are definitely going to hell.

No, for making an apparently too-obscure joke about the average size of Korean wedding tackle.

By: zardoz

zardoz — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:41:12 -0800

hear, hear!

By: Dr. Curare

Dr. Curare — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:07:33 -0800

Sometimes I get a joke and don't laugh.

By: modernnomad

modernnomad — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:29:52 -0800

DO WANT.

By: mumkin

mumkin — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:42:58 -0800

Oh, man. I've been wanting obama.metafilter.com so badly of late, to give the newly-converted somewhere to testify about their political messiah out of my earshot. Don't get me wrong: I like the guy—he's my candidate—and some very crazy weird stuff would have to transpire for me not to vote for him. Seriously, I am using a Barack Obama ringtone and wallpaper on my phone at the moment, albeit not without a sense of irony , so you've got my vote sewn up. But please, please, please, ye zeal-filled Obamites, give that shit a rest. I'm fired up already, don't hype it so much that it wraps back around and turns into apathy.

I don't expect to get an election subsite out of this—if it were to be, planning should've started a year ago—but I was going to suggest maybe adding a notice to the blue's New Post form for the next six months, asking people to think thrice before posting electionfilter stuff. AskMe did something similar last winter re: gift questions, didn't it? It'd be a figleaf, at least, but it's going to be a loooong time until November and every bit helps.

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:47:39 -0800

I know there are always calls for subsites, and they are usually shot down

Click-click...

Booyaka!

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:56:59 -0800

Otherwise I think it would get to be like those fucking, yes I said it, fucking, comment sections

fucking.metafilter.com sounds like a great idea though.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:20:28 -0800

Sometimes I get a joke and don't laugh.

Sometimes I PUNCH PEOPLE.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:21:56 -0800

I thought about doing this once, even took some steps, bought the domain, sought help, mostly built the backend, etc, etc

and then I looked really hard at how Metafilter operates and in particular Metatalk, like for several months, really watching what users do and what the mods have to deal.

and I decided there's no fucking way I want to babysit you people over politics if you're going to act that shitty over in regular Metafilter.

By: cgc373

cgc373 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:55:08 -0800

Are you callin' stavrosthewonderchicken a baby, Brandon Blatcher? He PUNCHES PEOPLE, man! You gotta be crazy to mess with a wonderchicken that'll PUNCH you, man.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:10:18 -0800

If you are less than 3mm thick, I'll PUNCH YOU TOO!

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:10:48 -0800

I am all about the allcaps today, by god. I LOVE ALLCAPS! I AM SHOUTING AT YOU!

By: Dave Faris

Dave Faris — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:03:26 -0800

What the hell kind of router have you got?

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:19:33 -0800

mumkin: "I am using a Barack Obama ringtone and wallpaper on my phone at the moment, albeit not without a sense of irony"

Do people vote ironically these days, too? Because that would explain a lot of things.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:20:49 -0800

splunge.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:21:06 -0800

I DON'T CALL STAVROS ANYMORE, HE STIFFED ME ON THE CALAMARI BILL.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:29:28 -0800

STAVROS BOUGHT ME 18 KOREAN BEERS AND A PLATE OF BULGOGI WITH THE MONEY HE SAVED BY STIFFING BRANDON BLATCHER ON THE CALAMARI BILL, SO HE'S OK BY ME.

By: cgc373

cgc373 — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:41:12 -0800

MetaTalk: STIFFING BRANDON BLATCHER ON THE CALAMARI BILL

By: robocop is bleeding

robocop is bleeding — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:44:55 -0800

Maybe a sidebar link to whatever the most recent 'turning point' election thread is? No subsite or anything, but it keeps the general election talk limited to one thread.

Or you could set up a system for a weekly/biweekly General Election 08 Post. Such a post would show up on Monday mornings and all other election stuffs would be deleted as per normal.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:45:32 -0800

THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE BRANDONS.

By: zennie

zennie — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:49:58 -0800

Every subject has politics embedded somewhere. Something as seasonal and mercurial as the election process is far less interesting alone than as part of the social tapestry Metafilter samples daily.

Random coverage of interesting points is the best.
My drive-by take, anyway.

By: signal

signal — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:28:42 -0800

Widespread, generous deletions for 95% of the politics threads. That's what we need this (US) 'election season'

By: afu

afu — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:39:37 -0800

I'm a total politicsfilter junkie, but the mods have done a good job dosing out the methadone to keep me from twitching too much. elections.metafilter would have me frothing at the mouth no doubt.

By: cortex

cortex — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:21:44 -0800

Aw, Brandon. I was hoping you were gonna launch that sucker.

And, since it seems more and more often to get forgotten in these discussions as time goes on, Devoter.com.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:24:18 -0800

And, since it seems more and more often to get forgotten in these discussions as time goes on, Devoter.com.

Yeah, so all you politics posting types, y'all please consider taking it over to that site, okay? I'm serious!

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:24:34 -0800

Well, yeah, so ya'll could shovel shit my way! no thanks.

By: birdherder

birdherder — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:29:21 -0800

what about just a hillary4u&me.metafilter.com subsite?

By: TheOnlyCoolTim

TheOnlyCoolTim — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:37:02 -0800

I don't believe the ampersand (&) is permissible there.

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:40:37 -0800

I am interested in reading and participating in discussion about the American election in exactly one place on the internet: Metafilter.

And that's just it. I *do* want to obsess over all the minutiae of this election with all the very bright political analysis Metafilter consistently musters.

I think tkolar's joke about creating a politics subsite that locks you out of posting anywhere else is actually very close to the mark for a workable version of this - Matt could make a ton of money off of a politics.metafilter.com that had a separate user database from the main site and kept the $5 entry fee. Big shot of site revenue from a whole new round of signups, siphons off the ZOMG ELECTION from the main site, and provides an outlet for those of us who really really want to discuss the small stuff. Oh, and because it's interest-specific you can do better-targeted advertising, and if it's really obsessive there'll be a huge number of hits.

There's a market for it, money to be made, and it improves the quality of the main site - that seems like a solid win. If moderation's a concern, have it written somewhere extremely visible in giant bold letters that this specific subsite is lightly moderated, but all moderation for this specific subsite is done in wrath-of-God mode (Asshole? Banned.).

Is there a downside I'm missing?

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:42:34 -0800

Is there a downside I'm missing?

If it's so easy and great, why aren't you doing something similar?

By: monju_bosatsu

monju_bosatsu — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:44:16 -0800

Is there a downside I'm missing?

The giant pain in the ass?

By: monju_bosatsu

monju_bosatsu — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:45:40 -0800

I think it's a shame that devoter never took off. jca is still over there plugging away, though.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:54:43 -0800

yeah, send some political love over at devoter. It's been around a while.

By: tkolar

tkolar — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:12:36 -0800

For actually WANTING political newsfilter posts on Metafilter? Yes, you are definitely going to hell.
No, for making an apparently too-obscure joke about the average size of Korean wedding tackle.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone got that the first time. But believe me, your stance on politicalfilter is *far* more offensive.

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:12:44 -0800

fucking.metafilter.com sounds like a great idea though

I want a different subsite for fuckers, called safefucking.metafilter.com. And foreplay.metafilter.com. And republicanmensroom.metafilter.com.

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:13:39 -0800

If it's so easy and great, why aren't you doing something similar?
posted by Brandon Blatcher

Because I don't have access to Mefi's codebase or DNS records. If it's not official, you automatically wipe out the vast majority of your potential userbase.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:24:57 -0800

I'm betting that the glory of riches you're talking about won't be outweighed by the headache of doing it.

Still, the idea of politicalfiter is nice, but it would need more of jessamyn/cortex clone (or more likely, clones from around the world) to keep it as heavily moderated as Askme.

But really, if someone wants to do this, you gotta start outta love, not with your eyes full of dollar signs.

By: SeizeTheDay

SeizeTheDay — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:56:56 -0800

Because I don't have access to Mefi's codebase or DNS records. If it's not official, you automatically wipe out the vast majority of your potential userbase.

So, in summary: I want to take advantage of someone else's hard work, create more work for them, and change the nature of the site itself, all for my own selfish need of discussing politics EXACTLY where I want to, when I want to.

That about right?

By: SeizeTheDay

SeizeTheDay — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:59:24 -0800

Full disclosure: I used to want exactly the same thing, until I realized (for myself) that the political debates created very little light, riled up too many people, and ultimately created less "community" and more polarity. Of course, it helps that I stay out of most political debate anymore, since it's almost never about the issues, IMHO.

By: ALongDecember

ALongDecember — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:01:44 -0800

suggestanewsorpoliticalsubsite.metatalk.metafilter.com

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:09:08 -0800

SeizeTheDay:
Holy shit, calm down. I think you really, really missed something or are wildly misunderstanding my suggestion.

Like many people in this thread, I'd like an election/politics subsite. I'm just suggesting a way Matt could do it that might yield a good return-on-investment (of time, on his part).

Considering that a sizable fraction (9 for, 12 against as of this comment) of the people above indicated that they would like this, there may exist a market awaiting a solution. My comment about not having codebase or DNS records was my way of saying only Matt can provide a solutuion. The only suggestion I offered was a method that might make sufficient money to offset the trouble.

That's all. No, seriously, that is all. Brandon was the one suggesting someone other than Matt do it, not me. Please don't jump down my throat, thanks.

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:16:39 -0800

I can feel for people who want things like this, I really can, but the reasoning behind is always the same, at least the reasoning people admit to:

"I really want to know what the special smart and lovely mefites have to say about every minor thing relating to [topic x]."

That's admirable. It is. But here's the thing. All of those other sites that you and I know already exist to talk about precisely this sort of thing? The ones that we're all imagining don't have our special brand of super-smart generally awesome members? They all have mefites. In fact, they're where mefites get the talking points they use in metafilter threads. Daily KOS is lousy with mefites. I bet you could even find a couple over at LGF. I promise you, you'll get all the mefite discussion you could possibly want on this election at any of the established political community discussion blogs that are out there. The sad truth is that "I want to know what mefites think about every minor development regarding [thing y]" is simply not enough reason for something like this.

By: SeizeTheDay

SeizeTheDay — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:22:21 -0800

was my way of saying only Matt can provide a solutuion. The only suggestion I offered was a method that might make sufficient money to offset the trouble.

I'm pretty calm right now...though if you could use a hug, I'm sure that could be arranged. My point was that your suggestion only considers monetary gains as weighed against the work needed to establish this subsite. I understand perfectly what you're asking for, and I've certainly thought in the past that it would be a good idea. But having been here a while, like yourself, I'm understanding that the negative affects that such a site would have far outweigh the benefits. Moreover, you're asking Matt to do all the work, just for your pipedream. Seems a bit selfish to me.

By: LarryC

LarryC — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:31:27 -0800

The (long running!) discussion on this issue seems to have shifted. In the past is was mostly the haters (like me) who called for a politics site to keep that stuff off the blue. But a big chunk of the pro-politicsfilter posters here seem to want a place where they can have more political discussion without the haters (like me) always flagging their threads and prattling on about bestoftheweb and otherwise being obnoxious bores. Like me.

(Of course, Matt says that it is not happening!)

By: Ryvar

Ryvar — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:47:57 -0800

SeizeTheDay:

Restating once again - I'm asking Matt to do all the work for a) a pipedream shared by many people AND b) profit. Not just for me.

And while I'm on the topic, Matt profiting is good for Metafilter's overall continued excellence. As I told him way back when he thought I didn't like him - I want to see him make as much money off this site as he possibly can *without* fucking with my user experience, because that means good things for all of us.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:00:40 -0800

Yeaaaaaaaaah. I don't think this about money.

By: KokuRyu

KokuRyu — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:33:00 -0800

Can we have an election08.metafilter.ca subsite, while we're at it? Because, quite frankly, I find discussions about carbon tax, green initiatives and the Afghan mission more interesting than discussions about race, change, the influence of her husband and McCain's PR bunny.

By: alicesshoe

alicesshoe — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:20:52 -0800

Seems we're all asking mathowie to work harder. Longer.....

As Dan Hicks [and his hot licks] stated, Where's The Money¿

So I vote for neh.

KokuRyu, you're reading the NP in Japan, fer crying out loud¿
Way to add the CanCon though./

I saw a car, in Toronto of all places, Ontario plates, with an 'Obame'08' sticker on their bumper.
The bumper had a big crack on the left hand side. Is this an omen¿

see¿ politics.

By: eyeballkid

eyeballkid — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:44:23 -0800

Can we have an election08.metafilter.ca subsite,

How about a metafilter.ca? I'd feel a lot safer on the site if we just got rid of the Canadians.

By: Mister_A

Mister_A — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:31:56 -0800

MetaFilter.ca is pwnzored by baremetal.com, which is nowhere near as interesting as I thought it might be.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:35 -0800

MetaFilter: Holy shit, calm down.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:29:40 -0800

I'd give my left nut for American politics to move the hell out of MeFi. So damn much of it just junk frippery that is nothing like "best of the web" and doesn't even have the decency to be about real events. It's almost all media-pushed bullshit and I'm tired of seeing the Blue buy into it.

If we have to have politics on MeFi, let's not puke up the same bread and circuses gruel that Fox, CNN, and all the rest of those loathsome anti-everything-good hacks are pushing down the throats of the public.

If we have to have politics on MeFi, let's choose stuff that actually informs or makes a difference in the world.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:32:50 -0800

So if I understand correctly you have a hankering for change you can believe in?

By: GrammarMoses

GrammarMoses — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:08:01 -0800

...making an apparently too-obscure joke about the average size of Korean wedding tackle.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:55 AM on February 22 [+] [!]

fucking.metafilter.com sounds like a great idea though.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:56 AM on February 22 [1 favorite +] [!]

I want a different subsite for fuckers, called safefucking.metafilter.com. And foreplay.metafilter.com....
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:12 AM on February 22 [+] [!]

Which brings us back to this very amusing post by hama7: Cunnilingus in North Korea. Power to the people, right on!

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:23:36 -0800

So if I understand correctly you have a hankering for change you can believe in?

Almost. My hankering is for a lack of politics in MeFi. If we have to do it, let's at least avoid the worst of the old-media idiocy.

By: spiderwire

spiderwire — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:02:17 -0800

Ahh, the Audacity of Nope.

By: Brandon Blatcher

Brandon Blatcher — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:30:26 -0800

My hankering is for a lack of politics in MeFi.

Any sort of political subsite shouldn't be a place for people to post crap. And the existence of why shouldn't mean political stuff can't be on the main site.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:32:11 -0800

Other than, y'know, the fact that (a) it is overwhelmingly AmericaFilter and (b) is crap more often than not. Seeing as it seems there are people who want the AmericanFilter crap, PoliMe seems a reasonable solution.

By: Deathalicious

Deathalicious — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:25:34 -0800

we need a "boooooo!" flag for pony MeTas

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:30:41 -0800

You don't "boooooo!" a disabled pony.

[fetches gun]