"It's a shame that she's languishing in obscurity." February 28, 2011 11:03 AM   Subscribe

Seriously? Lady Gaga SLYT new-release filter? Come on.

How did we get here? Should I have spoken up when they came with the newsfilter? Are we pretty much cool if my next half dozen posts are links to new or recent releases by such unknowns as Fergie, Katie Perry, and Beyonce?
posted by weston to Etiquette/Policy at 11:03 AM (210 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite

Don't panic.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:03 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


I like the post under this one, it's warmer, like a hot tub.
posted by The Whelk at 11:04 AM on February 28, 2011


It was impossible for you to just pass over the post, or flag it and move on? What are you hoping to accomplish with this callout?
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:05 AM on February 28, 2011 [12 favorites]


well, haterz gotta hate and taterz gotta tate
posted by pyramid termite at 11:06 AM on February 28, 2011 [32 favorites]


Are we pretty much cool if my next half dozen posts are links to new or recent releases by such unknowns as Fergie, Katie Perry, and Beyonce?

Hey, knock yourself out, big guy.
posted by octobersurprise at 11:07 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


I like Alejandro, but I vastly prefer FIAMO.
posted by hermitosis at 11:08 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


If Lady Gaga posts are outlawed, only outlaws will have Lady Gaga.
posted by lukemeister at 11:08 AM on February 28, 2011 [14 favorites]


Did you mean to link directly to the video instead of to the post discussing the video? Didn't think this was a great post but there were a ton of people who seemed to like it who got there before I did. Generally is a SLYT new release post a good post: no, not really. Do people seem to like this post: yes, mostly. I cannot explain it. It is a mystery.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 11:08 AM on February 28, 2011 [12 favorites]


it's an interesting video and it is entirely okay to skip past a post if the subject doesn't interest you

i promise i won't get mad if you do
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 11:08 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


Don't blame me. I flagged it as hard as I could.
posted by Joe Beese at 11:09 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


weston: "How did we get here? Should I have spoken up when they came with the newsfilter? Are we pretty much cool if my next half dozen posts are links to new or recent releases by such unknowns as Fergie, Katie Perry, and Beyonce?"

If they're good videos, or even bad ones on interesting topics, then why not post them?

I don't think "The subject of the post is popular" and/or "It's showing up on the internet elsewhere" should be used as deletion justifications.
posted by zarq at 11:09 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


AZ: MetaTalk is, among other things, for discussing the etiquitte and gestalt of the site.

I'm asking if SLYT megapopstar is really what Metafilter is for.
posted by weston at 11:10 AM on February 28, 2011 [10 favorites]


I love you! I flag you! I love you! I flag you!
posted by The Whelk at 11:11 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Joe Beese: "Don't blame me. I flagged it as hard as I could."

You should have tried spanking it. With white gloves. While wearing a leather bikini and making out with a zombie. And....
posted by zarq at 11:11 AM on February 28, 2011


I'm asking if SLYT megapopstar is really what Metafilter is for.

Metafilter if for sharing links with other people, so yeah, SLYT megapopstar can fit in there. A steady diet of it? God no, but it's just another slice in the delicious cake that is life. Enjoy or pass your slice to someone else.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:12 AM on February 28, 2011 [15 favorites]


I do not like the post.

In my mind it was summarily deleted and I will not think of it again.
posted by mazola at 11:13 AM on February 28, 2011 [9 favorites]


I'm asking if SLYT megapopstar is really what Metafilter is for.

That's a question that can be asked with the click of a flag. If the post remains, then, yes, that's what metafilter is for.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:13 AM on February 28, 2011 [6 favorites]


I love you! I flag you! I love you! I flag you!

SHE'S MY LADY AND MY GAGA!
posted by infinitewindow at 11:14 AM on February 28, 2011 [5 favorites]


weston: " I'm asking if SLYT megapopstar is really what Metafilter is for."

I'm not exactly sure I understand this question. Could you please explain how one "SLYT megapopstar" post every once in a while diminishes the whole site?
posted by zarq at 11:14 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


This thread needs to be bookended with crazy fantasy/sci-fi segments in order for me to understand and appreciate it.
posted by item at 11:14 AM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


Metafilter if for sharing links with other people, so yeah, SLYT megapopstar can fit in there. A steady diet of it? God no, but it's just another slice in the delicious cake that is life. Enjoy or pass your slice to someone else.

This.
posted by josher71 at 11:15 AM on February 28, 2011


That's a question that can be asked with the click of a flag. If the post remains, then, yes, that's what metafilter is for.

You appear to be saying that there are no longer any other rough guidelines or concepts to be expressed about what makes a good post to Metafilter other than whether there are enough flags and the mods remove it.
posted by weston at 11:16 AM on February 28, 2011 [7 favorites]


Don't be a drag.
posted by hermitosis at 11:16 AM on February 28, 2011 [10 favorites]


This thread needs to be bookended with crazy fantasy/sci-fi segments in order for me to understand and appreciate it.

*cracks fingers*
posted by The Whelk at 11:16 AM on February 28, 2011


We either suck it all out of our system now or we have Gaga-filter trickling out for the next few hours like we have in the past.
posted by charred husk at 11:17 AM on February 28, 2011


I see this thread going exactly the same way the other Lady Gaga meta threads go. Which is - it's OK for some people to like pop culture and talk about it. Also, it will make some people complain. Maybe we could wrap it up here?
posted by stoneweaver at 11:18 AM on February 28, 2011


item: "This thread needs to be bookended with crazy fantasy/sci-fi segments in order for me to understand and appreciate it."

I'm sure Weston posted this while wearing glowing white gloves and a leather bikini. No doubt he was also sitting in his home-made, one-person model of a Kryptonian escape ship, too.
posted by zarq at 11:18 AM on February 28, 2011


Didn't think this was a great post but there were a ton of people who seemed to like it who got there before I did.

How many of those people are mods?

And seriously, I've seen this "people seem to be lovin' it!" defense given a lot lately. Is that the bar now? Most popular of the web? Because a lot of quality posts are going to fail that.
posted by DU at 11:18 AM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


You appear to be saying that there are no longer any other rough guidelines or concepts to be expressed about what makes a good post to Metafilter other than whether there are enough flags and the mods remove it.

I'm saying a GOB Bluth-style "Come on" is not a question.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:18 AM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


Yeah, it's like, a post about a Gaga video? Eh. But compared to the original OMG HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED THE GAGA epiphany the whole world and, in its own way mefi, went through a while back, and New video! post once in a great while seems like not a big deal, especially when it is (like it or not) one of those sort of highly visible pop cultural Things going around, so eh.

Basically, eh. I can see liking it. I can see not liking it.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:18 AM on February 28, 2011


I regret that I have but one flag to give to that front page post.
posted by crunchland at 11:19 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


On the one hand, I kind of agree with the callout in principle, but on the other hand the intro to that video was so genius (and I mean that in the original sense of the word, being possessed ) that I can't abide in a Metatalk lashing of the post when there are so many other less stellar videos on display on the front page.

The song does blow, though.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:19 AM on February 28, 2011


And seriously, I've seen this "people seem to be lovin' it!" defense given a lot lately.

And if you read the archives, you'll see it not-lately too. If a lot of people seem to be enjoying a post, that's going to color our read on it. Why would it not? It's not a trump card or anything but it certainly matters.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:20 AM on February 28, 2011


That's a question that can be asked with the click of a flag. If the post remains, then, yes, that's what metafilter is for.

Don't be an asshole.
posted by enn at 11:20 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


That's a question that can be asked with the click of a flag. If the post remains, then, yes, that's what metafilter is for.

Can I take a moment to express my extreme hatred for "FIAMO" philosophy? Are we not humans? Can we not defend a position in MeTa and attempt to persuade others? Must all opinions be either a positive comment or statistical, anonymous, invisible downvote?
posted by DU at 11:20 AM on February 28, 2011 [17 favorites]


The trump card simply says "You're fired," and then goes in the next room to feed and water its hair.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:21 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


Can we not defend a position in MeTa and attempt to persuade others?

Of course. A "how dare we link to a pop star video" is not a clearly articulated position or a robust defense, though. If the person who posted this wants to make a case why these sort of posts are intolerable, I am sure there is a discussion to be had. But this was simply an unsupported expression of contempt for a post that they specifically did not like.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:22 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


(Just for reference, here are a few of the past MeTa threads about Gaga. There are many more. Seems like generally it's OK so long as it's not an avalanche of them for days and weeks and stuff. Practicing good tagging hygiene makes these things easier to find.)
posted by stoneweaver at 11:22 AM on February 28, 2011


For what it's worth, I also think that implication that MetaTalk is no longer a place to have discussion about what the site is good for is as spooky to me than the idea that MetaFilter is the place to post single-link shallow posts to the latest Lady Gaga video.

If there was a memo that all discussion on what the site is good for is now to be collapsed to the use of flags, I missed it. But I invite those who would promote that view to show the depth of their conviction by adhering to it during the rest of this thread.

I'm saying a GOB Bluth-style "Come on" is not a question.

I was pretty sure most readers would be skilled enough to translate.
posted by weston at 11:23 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Don't be an asshole.

Well, you first.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:24 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


Not bothered enough to flag or open a MeTa but since you have will say I'm broadly with you weston; not the kind of post I like to see. Down with this sort of thing!
posted by Abiezer at 11:24 AM on February 28, 2011


> Well, you first.

I misread that as "You fist".
posted by Burhanistan at 11:25 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


I was pretty sure most readers would be skilled enough to translate.

Well, go ahead and give me a translation beyond "I think this post is stupid." Because I am not skilled enough to translate, and the poster offered nothing else.

I feel like I am repeating myself here.
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:25 AM on February 28, 2011


I think until Lady Gaga does something objectively awful, we should be allowed a new post for every new video.
posted by empath at 11:27 AM on February 28, 2011


weston: "is as spooky to me than the idea that MetaFilter is the place to post single-link shallow posts to the latest Lady Gaga video. "

Again, could you please explain how one "SLYT megapopstar" post every once in a while diminishes the whole site?
posted by zarq at 11:29 AM on February 28, 2011


I thought the SLYT of Famous Dude putting $2 million in his fancy car was even dumber, and I didn't even bother to flag it before moving on. That makes me a bad mefite, I guess, but I'm also not worried that metafilter is going to decline horribly because an occasional not-as-great-as-it-could-be post gets to hang around.
posted by rtha at 11:31 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


EVERY NOT AMAZING POST IS THE FIRST HERALD OF THE END TIMES
posted by The Whelk at 11:32 AM on February 28, 2011 [6 favorites]


Why does the FIAMO brigade not just FIAMO rather than chiding others for FIAMO? If the comment stays, then apparently it is appropriate? If it goes, then you were justified in your philosophy.
posted by proj at 11:33 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


Thanks for posting. I had no idea who "Lady Gaga" was before this.
posted by Threeway Handshake at 11:33 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


I feel like I am repeating myself here.

Yeah, I think you crashed into the irony barricade a few comments back, Mr. "FIAMO."
posted by cribcage at 11:34 AM on February 28, 2011 [5 favorites]


The Whelk: "EVERY NOT AMAZING POST IS THE FIRST HERALD OF THE END TIMES"

Heh. If that's the case, I've been "heralding the end times" since 2004. :D
posted by zarq at 11:34 AM on February 28, 2011


For what it's worth, I also think that implication that MetaTalk is no longer a place to have discussion about what the site is good for is as spooky to me than the idea that MetaFilter is the place to post single-link shallow posts to the latest Lady Gaga video.

I think people have a basic responsibility when they post to MetaTalk. They should make a well written post that identifies a problem and offers a solution in clear, non-heated language that respects the site's users and administrators.

Your post did none of this, it's the equivalent of throwing a tantrum while projecting a false image of the site (that's it gone downhill and is a shadow of itself) and then complaining about that image. Your participation in this thread is not helping, as you're getting fighty and want argue that you are right and others are wrong. That's usually a recipe for GRAR and generally not good for the community or the individual.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:34 AM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


This is as good a time and place as any to mention that in my head I pronounce "FIAMO" as one word, and sometimes when I read MeTa I start singing "don't call me out, don't call me out, FIAMO!" I haven't yet thought of more lyrics. (I'm not your mod, I'm not your mod... Cortexo?)
posted by Metroid Baby at 11:34 AM on February 28, 2011 [8 favorites]


Can I take a moment to express my extreme hatred for "FIAMO" philosophy? Are we not humans?

A: We are Mefi!
posted by theodolite at 11:35 AM on February 28, 2011 [12 favorites]


It's one thing if it's a post with links to articles about whether it's a Madonna rip off, if she's trying to cast herself as a spokesperson for a group or groups, etc., but this was lazy (and part of a running Gaga joke here?).

Sure, every post will not be brilliant and full of depth, but thin gruel helps set a tone.
posted by ambient2 at 11:35 AM on February 28, 2011


Can I take a moment to express my extreme hatred for "FIAMO" philosophy? Are we not humans? Can we not defend a position in MeTa and attempt to persuade others? Must all opinions be either a positive comment or statistical, anonymous, invisible downvote?

Flagged.
posted by crunchland at 11:35 AM on February 28, 2011


Cue the FeeAMMO vs. FyeAmoh debates!
posted by proj at 11:35 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


There are music videos released every single day. And nearly every one of them is going to have someone one Metafilter who thinks it is the best thing ever and needs to be posted here. There are tons more music videos on the site than there used to be and yes, when you reach a certain threshold of spamminess (which we have reached), it is difficult to wade through the Youtube-greatest-hits crap—done better on any one of the many, many other sites which were actually created for that kind of thing—in search of actual Metafilter posts. It sucks.
posted by enn at 11:36 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


theodolite: " A: We are Mefi!"

We contain multitudes.
posted by zarq at 11:38 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


we never forgive, forget, or flag it and move on.
posted by The Whelk at 11:38 AM on February 28, 2011


♫ When the snark hits your post like a Friar's Club roast, that's FIAMO ♪
posted by Abiezer at 11:39 AM on February 28, 2011 [13 favorites]


Love, MetaFilter style: I cannot explain it. It is a mystery

This happens with all the Gaga posts btw, you'll find if you correlate righteously indignant MeTa in response to yet another Gaga FPP over time. As an ardent Gaga nonfan, I recall when it felt like there were a couple two three live threads going on about Gaga at any given time. There hasn't been in a long time. But the pattern follows. Perhaps there's a message there - perhaps its Gaga who is a special case on the blue for all the things that don't make sense, perhaps its easier to let you have a Gaga occassionally if you promise to eat spinach and green beans at least 4 days a week. Maybe teh site is growing up and learning to compromise. The audience demographic has certainly shifted its center of gravity since I've been here and I'm a n00b compared to most of you guys.

So what am I saying here? Either we can have this 'grar' thread, per usual, and realize we're all happily married to the website and its an old old argument that will never be resolved adn besides if it were, life would be little less fun. OR its like my mom's lectures which grate and bore and I simply say "yes, lecture #11 on take your vitamins bla bla" and it stops.

But will Gaga stop popping up every so often? I don't think so... not anytime soonish

Will the grey respond? If past performance is anything to go by, yes, ardently.

But the choice to recognize the pattern is one that we can make, thus allowing us to decide a tad more strategically what our response to the GRAR should be.
posted by infini at 11:39 AM on February 28, 2011


Again, could you please explain how one "SLYT megapopstar" post every once in a while diminishes the whole site?

And historically, such things have not diminished the site. See the single link post to a Cheap Trick video.
posted by juiceCake at 11:39 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Again, could you please explain how one "SLYT megapopstar" post every once in a while diminishes the whole site?

It dilutes the bits.
posted by empath at 11:39 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


How did we get here?

If I recall correctly, I followed a link from Suck.com.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 11:40 AM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


How did we get here?


THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL SITE!
THIS IS NOT A VERY GOOD POST!
posted by The Whelk at 11:41 AM on February 28, 2011 [22 favorites]


I flagged it...

....as "fantastic post" SO THERE
posted by 7segment at 11:41 AM on February 28, 2011


...it is difficult to wade through the Youtube-greatest-hits crap...

Yes, yes, scrolling is difficult.

Half joking there, 'cause there things that I too am annoyed with and dislike seeing on my special snowflake computer screen

But I share the site with 50 or 60,000 other people, so I suppose I'll have just grit my teeth and suffer through the scrolling of the wheel.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 11:41 AM on February 28, 2011


Yeah, I think you crashed into the irony barricade a few comments back, Mr. "FIAMO."

Was it when I repeatedly asked that, if people are not going to flag it and move on, they actually try and explain what their complaint is? Was that the moment?
posted by Astro Zombie at 11:42 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]




I can't stand Lady Gaga.

Also can't stand radiohead.

Wait, why do I visit this site again?
posted by eyeballkid at 11:42 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


Cue the FeeAMMO vs. FyeAmoh debates!

No. fee-YAH-mo.

Like it's Italian.
posted by Joe Beese at 11:42 AM on February 28, 2011 [6 favorites]


Metafilter: I cannot explain it. It is a mystery.
posted by schmod at 11:43 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


This happens with all the Gaga posts btw

How many of the previous Gaga posts have also been slyt new release?
posted by weston at 11:43 AM on February 28, 2011


Almost all of them.
posted by empath at 11:44 AM on February 28, 2011


You know what, a couple days ago someone posted a thing which looked for all the world to me like someone's fanfiction about the Buffy show, and I even made a comment to be certain because that was a confusing thing to me. I will be the first to admit that fanfiction kind of bounces off my head and I am not really the sort of MONSTER who is hugely on board with it. It was then clarified to me that it was indeed someone's fanfiction about a TV show.

Here is what I did: I said to myself, "Ah, okay," and closed the tab.

Here is what I did not do: Flag it.

Because even though I cannot rightly imagine giving a shit about someone's fanfic, that's got a lot more to do with me than anything else and it doesn't mean no one else should give a shit about it. A lot of really intelligent people, folks whose opinions I respect, were posting in that thread and enjoying the work, and to me that is right and fine. I'm sure there'll be another thread down the line where I am gleefully wittering about some other thing and they can't understand how I could give a flying fuck and they will just sort of close the tab. Hopefully.

See, if I flag it I'm saying that I don't think it should be here for anyone to look at. I'd flag someone posting a tumblr of hairy ballsacks (one a day for a year, trying to score that book deal, don't you know). I'd flag a post which explained how the white race must unite to free us from Zionist oppression, with accompanying VNN links. Those are things for which I can't see a place on this site.

I wouldn't flag a music video from someone I just didn't happen to care for. In fact there have been quite a few single-link YouTube posts from artists I can't stand, but they were well-received by a lot of other folks. So, okay! Awesome for them - and I really do mean that, I'm not being sarcastic.

I personally am not saying you should flag it and move on. I'm saying maybe ask yourself why you're flagging that particular thing; the Venn diagram of things I'd just as soon not see on this site and things I don't believe belong on this site is not a hula hoop, you know?
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 11:44 AM on February 28, 2011 [16 favorites]


I feel like this is the MeTa equivalent of a one of those clip art your mom doesn't work here notes. HOW DID THE MICROWAVE GET LIKE THIS??

The comment isn't framed to encourage discussion, just a venty "really?!" - whether or not we can all get something deeper from that isn't the point. If you want to have a discussion, then frame it as something other than a personal gripe.
posted by mrs. taters at 11:44 AM on February 28, 2011


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - community weblog Metafilter was found dead in its Portland home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Internet community will miss it - even if you didn't enjoy its work, there's no denying its contributions to popular culture. Truly an Internet icon.
posted by entropicamericana at 11:45 AM on February 28, 2011


Why does the FIAMO brigade not just FIAMO rather than chiding others for FIAMO?

Favorites don't grow on trees, you know!
posted by enn at 11:48 AM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


How about we just make a subsite that can be pre-filled with threads generated from google new alerts or other RSS feeds that will post topics about every single new Lady Gaga happening, every Glee happening, every The Oatmeal and XKCD comic, and maybe a few other things like that?

We can call it "Tripefilter: Worst of the viral web" and then everybody can HAVE THEIR FUN AND TALK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT FUN STUFF AND WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION MY CHOICES ABOUT HAVING FUN, DAMNIT!
posted by Threeway Handshake at 11:49 AM on February 28, 2011 [6 favorites]


First youtube post.


---

With Wonder Woman being rumored to be in pre-production with Joss Wheadon at the helm...

Yeah, and NOW look what's happening!
posted by Joe Beese at 11:50 AM on February 28, 2011


....you mean ...reddit?
posted by The Whelk at 11:50 AM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Not only is this a perfectly awesome use of Metafilter, but I for one will be disappointed—no, crushed—if we don't get a similar single-link YouTube post for each video from the forthcoming album.

GAGA BE PRAISED!
posted by infinitywaltz at 11:50 AM on February 28, 2011


GAGA BE PRIASED
posted by The Whelk at 11:52 AM on February 28, 2011


I thought the SLYT of Famous Dude putting $2 million in his fancy car was even dumber, and I didn't even bother to flag it before moving on.

BUT WON'T YOU THINK OF THE STARVING CHILDREN?!
posted by 1000monkeys at 11:53 AM on February 28, 2011


> ....you mean ...reddit?

I actually think that people who complain about content on Metafilter might be better served by finding or starting a subreddit that caters to their particular intellectual aspirations. Metafilter is pretty much a general interest site with a purportedly slightly smarter than average userbase. There's going to be posts about all kinds of things, popular and obscure. If people can't handle that then they might do better to look for narrower channels rather than try to edit the rest of our experience here.
posted by Burhanistan at 11:53 AM on February 28, 2011 [6 favorites]


weston: " How many of the previous Gaga posts have also been slyt new release?"

Not many. Most of them seem to be highlighting her, parodies of her work or analyzing her in some way. Also.
posted by zarq at 11:54 AM on February 28, 2011


I'm saying maybe ask yourself why you're flagging that particular thing

In my case it was, "This seems like the kind of anorectically thin Gaga post that I've seen the mods delete before. They'll want us to bring it to their attention so they can get rid of it."

I know nothing.
posted by Joe Beese at 11:54 AM on February 28, 2011



GAGA BE PRAISED!


Our Lady Gaga, who art in sane, hallowed be thy pointy cheeks.
Thy monsters come, thy will be done,
in pop as it is in performance art.
Give us this day our daily Roma-rom-ah-ahh
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who plagiarize Madonna.
Lead us not into a bad romance,
but deliver us from evil-mother-xenomorph-vagina-babies.
For the power, the glory, and the fame are yours
now and until the next outrageous pop star appears.

Alejandro.
posted by 1000monkeys at 12:01 PM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


Infidel.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:02 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


MetaFilter is not a hipster site.
MetaFilter is not a hipster site.
MetaFilter is not a hipster site.

Just because other people like it doesn't mean we can't like it too.
posted by Rory Marinich at 12:06 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Oh and for the record I'm a little monster :)
posted by 1000monkeys at 12:07 PM on February 28, 2011


When Ms. Gaga's previous video came out, I made a MLYT post with some Madonna videos for comparison and that got nuked from orbit. So, I'm just sayin' here that the mods respond to the whims of the flags and on that day, the flags were not with me. Today, it seems the flags are not with you, but tomorrow is another day.
posted by sonika at 12:09 PM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


enn: "There are music videos released every single day. And nearly every one of them is going to have someone one Metafilter who thinks it is the best thing ever and needs to be posted here. There are tons more music videos on the site than there used to be and yes, when you reach a certain threshold of spamminess (which we have reached), it is difficult to wade through the Youtube-greatest-hits crap—done better on any one of the many, many other sites which were actually created for that kind of thing—in search of actual Metafilter posts. It sucks."

Gotta disagree. Some of my favorite posts on Metafilter have been single or multiple music videos sourced from YouTube. I've learned about many, many artists that way which I probably would never have encountered otherwise. I've even been introduced to videos by popular artists that I would likely have missed. Have tried to respond in kind with a few of my own posts.

It's not hard to scroll past posts without bothering to open them. Most of us probably do that every day. There's no dearth of content on the front page, and the YouTube posts certainly don't outnumber the rest, or diminish their presence. I wonder how anyone who complains about such things manages to read the Reddit front page, where single images are posted at a high frequency.

If you want a more quality posts, please create and submit them. That strikes me as a better way to change MeFi for the better than censorship, no?
posted by zarq at 12:11 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


New game: Which of the following are quotations from one of the mods and which is from The Sphinx in Mystery Men?

1. You must lash out with every limb, like the octopus who plays the drums.
2. I cannot explain it. It is a mystery.
3. We are number one. All others are number two, or lower.
4. I can see liking it. I can see not liking it.
5. When you care what is outside, what is inside cares for you.

Winners will be announced via a single link Youtube video. With love and respect to the mods, of course.
posted by perhapses at 12:18 PM on February 28, 2011


Lady GrarGrar.
posted by panboi at 12:19 PM on February 28, 2011 [6 favorites]


Number 1.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:20 PM on February 28, 2011


the YouTube posts certainly don't outnumber the rest

8 out of 20 posts today are YouTube or Vimeo posts. They don't quite outnumber the others yet, but the trend is definitely in that direction.

I wonder how anyone who complains about such things manages to read the Reddit front page, where single images are posted at a high frequency.

I don't read the Reddit front page for exactly that reason. It's full of crap.

That strikes me as a better way to change MeFi for the better than censorship, no?

"censorship"
posted by enn at 12:20 PM on February 28, 2011


perhapses: "New game: Which of the following are quotations from one of the mods and which is from The Sphinx in Mystery Men?"

IS IT....
posted by zarq at 12:20 PM on February 28, 2011


Ok, are we at the part where things are set on fire and guitars smashed and the keyboardist is fed to the crowd?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:23 PM on February 28, 2011


RENEW RENEW RENEW
posted by The Whelk at 12:24 PM on February 28, 2011


Derogatory remark and personal attack on OP. Statement affirming the superiority of my opinion over OP's opinion. Use of MetaFilter related meme.

Smug closing remark.
posted by dougrayrankin at 12:27 PM on February 28, 2011 [5 favorites]


I do the same thing as Metroid Baby except to a different song... I'm gonna tell you right away / I can't wait another day / FIAMO!
I'm gonna say it like a man / and make you understand / FIAMO!

posted by jtron at 12:27 PM on February 28, 2011


enn: "8 out of 20 posts today are YouTube or Vimeo posts. They don't quite outnumber the others yet, but the trend is definitely in that direction.

You're moving the goalposts. Only three of the posts on the entire front page are of music videos. Out of 50+. If you have a problem with Youtube videos of any type, then say so and we can change this conversation's direction. But until this moment we have been talking about music videos.

"censorship""

Non sequitur. Perhaps 2% of this site's active users read MeTa, and it seems that a few people who are participating in this thread, myself included, have no intention of refusing to post links to videos they find interesting online. Which means that unless the mods start deleting YouTube posts en masse, you'll see no change whatsoever to the front page. If you're not proposing actual moderation and censorship, what exactly are you saying?
posted by zarq at 12:30 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


It dilutes the bits.

I'm curious how much each "bad post" costs MetaFilter, LLC. Obviously it must vary quite a bit, but I'm guessing it boils down to just a few parameters:

-cost to store the post
-bandwidth costs
-storage and bandwidth costs for associated MetaTalk callout
-disaster response team (jessatex)

Anyone have any data on this? I'd put money on offending posts costing less than the price of a stamp.
posted by backseatpilot at 12:32 PM on February 28, 2011


I'm curious how much each "bad post" costs MetaFilter, LLC. --- $20 same as in... NO! I WON'T DO IT!
posted by crunchland at 12:33 PM on February 28, 2011


> I'm curious how much each "bad post" costs MetaFilter, LLC.

Nah, even the shitty posts generate juicy click-ads for non-member to click on.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:34 PM on February 28, 2011


You can't put a price on my pain and emotional trauma, backseatpilot.
posted by entropicamericana at 12:35 PM on February 28, 2011


Well, maybe we could if we videotaped in and put it on YouTube and someone posted about it on the blue.
posted by backseatpilot at 12:36 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


MetaFilter is not a hipster site.
MetaFilter is not a hipster site.
MetaFilter is not a hipster site.


Ooh, irony!
posted by shakespeherian at 12:36 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


BUT WON'T YOU THINK OF THE STARVING CHILDREN?!

I've been trying to have my dinner here you know, and I am not only starving but I was righteously born in Calcutta so there.

rest of you, quit making me giggle so I can step away long enough to feed self. *glares suspiciously at perhapses*
posted by infini at 12:39 PM on February 28, 2011 [4 favorites]


Derogatory remark and personal attack on OP. Statement affirming the superiority of my opinion over OP's opinion. Use of MetaFilter related meme. Smug closing remark.

It seems like you've lost your passion for this.
posted by Joe Beese at 12:41 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


That wasn't much of anything.
posted by Burhanistan at 12:41 PM on February 28, 2011


infini: " I've been trying to have my dinner here you know, and I am not only starving but I was righteously born in Calcutta so there. "

हालांकि आप एक बच्चा नहीं कर रहे हैं
posted by zarq at 12:42 PM on February 28, 2011


Smug closing remark.

Express yourself.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:54 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Are we pretty much cool if my next half dozen posts are links to new or recent releases by such unknowns as Fergie, Katie Perry, and Beyonce?

If you're posting them because you think they're legitimately interesting links, that's perfectly fine.

OTOH, if you're posting them because you think they're shitty links and you're trying to make some point about how if some shitty links are allowed, people will post a bunch of other shitty things too, please don't. Do not disrupt Wikipedia MetaFilter to make a point.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 1:01 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


What is this 'hipster' thing again? Is that, like, stealing hippies off the internet?
posted by jtron at 1:03 PM on February 28, 2011


like, stealing sharing hippies off the Internet.
posted by entropicamericana at 1:06 PM on February 28, 2011


I hate it when posts I flag don't get deleted as much as the next guy/gal/hypnotoad but I take the "And Move On" thing fairly seriously and just, you know, move on.
posted by tommasz at 1:08 PM on February 28, 2011


The most infuriating thing about hipsters is where they claim they're not actually hipsters.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 1:11 PM on February 28, 2011


What is this 'hipster' thing again? Is that, like, stealing hippies off the internet?

Look at these fucking hipsters.
posted by shakespeherian at 1:13 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Whenever I see a single-link post about a popular, already well-publicized musical entertainment of of the day, I have a private joke that helps me cope with the situation. It's called: Quoth the Jessamyn: Please enjoy your Radiohead.

Here is how it works: You pick a favorite character, absorb yourself in that character, and say "Please enjoy your [insert entertainment/edutainment/infotainment here]."

For example, right now, I am Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.

"Please to enjoy your Lady Gaga!"

I'm not certain, but I think it may also work for posts about hipsters.

"Please enjoy your hipsters."

I'm still working out the kinks.
posted by Dr. Zira at 1:21 PM on February 28, 2011


I mean, I guess I could go in every FPP that's like, "Oh, hey, here's a video of my favorite indie/tweek/precious/earnest artist making the MOST beyoooooootiful music in the world on a ukelele/kazoo/in an outdated rhyme or rhythm scheme/about Stephen Fry/making Lovecraftian prog rock," I should fire up the ol' MeTa machine...

...or just let people enjoy what they're enjoying?
posted by kkokkodalk at 1:22 PM on February 28, 2011


shakespeherian: those are great! why are people always complaining about them?
posted by jtron at 1:22 PM on February 28, 2011


Ugh and now that I've said I have to go on Google because I would listen to the shit out of Lovecraftian prog rock.
posted by kkokkodalk at 1:23 PM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


There was nothing in the post that night
The content's slight,
FIAMO

And still it's sitting there for all to see,
A travesty,
FIAMO

Though we know it might not get deleted, don't start a Meta thread

If I had to flag that post again,
I would, my friend,
FIAMO...

posted by koeselitz at 1:24 PM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


I almost stopped reading the Blue last year 'cause there were too many Lady Gaga posts.
Can I make a post about Gaslight Anthem covering The Who last night? Or about John Darnielle's new blog post?
This post is okay but I'm worried MeFi will turn into Disposable Pop Filter
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 1:25 PM on February 28, 2011


♫ When the snark hits your post like a Friar's Club roast, that's FIAMO ♪
♫ When folks say "it sucks" 'cuz you posted cute ducks, that's FIAMO♪
posted by tomswift at 1:26 PM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


I start singing "don't call me out, don't call me out, FIAMO!"

Damn you, Metroid Baby. Now I can't get this out of my head until I write it!

Do you see this post? FIAMO!
I remember long ago another poster posted this
And so I just FIAMO
You were posting videos of Lady Gaga, megastar
Like so many previouslier
And the distant keyboards that were rumbling with GRAR

Were posting rather than FIAMO
Every minute 'till deletion seemed to last eternally
Were they afraid to just FIAMO?
They were young and full of snark and none of them thought they could die
And I'm not ashamed to say
The smoke from those flameouts got into my eye

There was something that was just so wrong, it should be gone, FIAMO
It was shit and smelled like poo, or pepsi-blue, FIAMO
Though you have the right to disagree, don't post just yet
If all you've got is just a doubt, don't call me out, FIAMO
And if you double-post again, I will, my friend, FIAMO

Blue and Green and Gray, FIAMO
Since many years I haven't seen a meta post by you
Have you learned how to FIAMO?
Do you still recall the exclamation point you click upon?
that brings up the drop down list
that lets you Flag It And Move On, and then move on

If there's something that is just so wrong, it must be gone, FIAMO
It might be shite and smell like poo, or pepsi-blue, FIAMO
Though you've got the right to disagree, don't post just yet
If all you've got is just a doubt, don't call me out, FIAMO
And if you double-post again, I will, my friend, FIAMO
posted by Sparx at 1:37 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


8 out of 20 posts today are YouTube or Vimeo posts. They don't quite outnumber the others yet, but the trend is definitely in that direction.

Proof of the trend? Stats over a year? Stats over a couple of years? Stats over a few months? With charts?
posted by juiceCake at 1:39 PM on February 28, 2011


I see this thread going exactly the same way the other Lady Gaga meta threads go.

Adds to mental note:

- Arab/Israel conflict
- Circumcision
- Prison rape
- Declawing cats
- Lady Gaga
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:47 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


You seem to have gotten the misimpression that I work for you.
posted by enn at 1:47 PM on February 28, 2011


- Conflict Diamonds
- Plain old diamonds (big DeBeers scam)
- SUVs
- Bicycles
- Obesity
- Pretty much anything while people are starving
posted by fixedgear at 1:50 PM on February 28, 2011


- Apple products
- Breastfeeding
posted by Joe Beese at 1:51 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Express yourself.

And I don't get any of these Express Yourself comparisons either. It sounds nothing like the NWA track or the Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:52 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


- Religion
- Atheism
- Microsoft
- US politics (special mention for Sarah Palin)
posted by zarq at 1:52 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


हालांकि आप एक बच्चा नहीं कर रहे हैं

whut? the last matra in the first word is on backwards, how'd you manage to do that? - which to me looks like you've mashed two words into one, if you're trying to say something like hey girl, wrong pronoun you are not pregnant

that what you trying to say zarq? ;p
posted by infini at 1:53 PM on February 28, 2011


You're spelling is worse than mine, how did you get the 'r' into the fourth word anyhoo? didn't gmail give you suggestions? ;p
posted by infini at 1:54 PM on February 28, 2011


infini: "You're spelling is worse than mine, how did you get the 'r' into the fourth word anyhoo? didn't gmail give you suggestions? ;p"

*cough* Google Translate Fail. *cough*

*sigh*
posted by zarq at 1:55 PM on February 28, 2011


infini: " that what you trying to say zarq? ;p"

And oh, dear lord no. :) Was trying to say, "Although you are not a child."
posted by zarq at 1:55 PM on February 28, 2011


I think that phrase translates roughly as "no need to broadcast the internal dialog so much".
posted by Burhanistan at 2:01 PM on February 28, 2011


It is a mystery.
posted by Busy Old Fool at 2:01 PM on February 28, 2011


It is a mystery. (/Don Hertzfeld)
posted by shakespeherian at 2:07 PM on February 28, 2011


*sticks tongue out at Burh*
posted by infini at 2:08 PM on February 28, 2011


Ugh and now that I've said I have to go on Google because I would listen to the shit out of Lovecraftian prog rock.

Please enjoy your a lot of people who did something musical with Lovecraft through 2008.

Most of those guys are black metal outfits or brooding gothy types, but maybe you like that sort of thing.
posted by Errant at 2:15 PM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


Hipster, minions of the Diva, is not a handgun qualified position.
posted by clavdivs at 2:17 PM on February 28, 2011


Burhanistan: "I think that phrase translates roughly as "no need to broadcast the internal dialog so much"."

I thought it was funny. :)
posted by zarq at 2:23 PM on February 28, 2011


Errant, why is this not an FPP? Lovecraftian psychobilly sounds about right for exorcising this whole Gaga deal.
posted by Dr Dracator at 2:23 PM on February 28, 2011


Lovecraftian prog rock

Drum solos are easy when you are The Beast with 100 Tentacles.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 2:30 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Apparently it's a video about some singer who is popular with youth today. But I can't tell, because IT CAN'T BE VIEWED OUTSIDE THE USA AND CANADA. OK, so it's a link to a single video. OK, so it's some pop chick you can see anywhere. But why clutter up the front page with things that something that excludes a decent chunk of Metafilter's users?
posted by Joe in Australia at 2:43 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


> But why clutter up the front page with things that something that excludes a decent chunk of Metafilter's users?

Duh, because there's a galactic fallopian tube.
posted by Burhanistan at 2:47 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Try this one.

Allowed everywhere but Germany.
posted by zarq at 2:48 PM on February 28, 2011


Ugh and now that I've said I have to go on Google because I would listen to the shit out of Lovecraftian prog rock.

Please enjoy your a lot of people who did something musical with Lovecraft through 2008.

Most of those guys are black metal outfits or brooding gothy types, but maybe you like that sort of thing.


er..... listen to my namesake
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 2:55 PM on February 28, 2011


The Whelk: "How did we get here?


THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL SITE!
THIS IS NOT A VERY GOOD POST
"

Under the comments, carry the comments.

There are derails at the top of the thread.

Delete the derails at the top of the thread.

It's only an SLYT! It's only an SLYT!

Letting the days go by...
posted by idiopath at 3:08 PM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


¡Goats, sí!
¡GaGa, no!
posted by Eideteker at 3:24 PM on February 28, 2011


I think it's really funny that Lovecraft in Brooklyn stormed into the thread complaining and asking what was to keep everyone from constantly just posting about their favorite artists -- and then after his comments were deleted, went and posted a thread about the new Mountain Goats album. And that thread is going really well! So you see, the system works.
posted by hermitosis at 3:30 PM on February 28, 2011


Errant, why is this not an FPP?

On the one hand, it'd be a pretty interesting FPP.

On the other hand, the veil is thin and see, there, where it tears; see that unblinking eye, that not-star behind the dream; see it slumbering, and fear.

So, y'know.
posted by Errant at 3:33 PM on February 28, 2011


I think it's really funny that Lovecraft in Brooklyn stormed into the thread complaining and asking what was to keep everyone from constantly just posting about their favorite artists -- and then after his comments were deleted, went and posted a thread about the new Mountain Goats album. And that thread is going really well! So you see, the system works.

yeah, i figured instead of bitching i might as well be constructive

and i'd really love to see a post on other Lovecraftian music
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 3:37 PM on February 28, 2011


I'm tired of making the same old comment about how much I hate SLYT posts, not that that will stop me.

A new release by an interesting celebrity? Not post-worthy. A thoughtful, well-researched post with links to interesting content, showing me why I should care? Possibly post-worthy.
posted by theora55 at 3:42 PM on February 28, 2011


Ugh and now that I've said I have to go on Google because I would listen to the shit out of Lovecraftian prog rock.

Here you go- Shub-Niggurath. They're on the more extreme/avant-garde end of prog-rock (the closest musical comparison would probably be Magma), but I think that's appropriate for Lovecraft-themed music.
posted by a louis wain cat at 4:04 PM on February 28, 2011


theora55: " A new release by an interesting celebrity? Not post-worthy. A thoughtful, well-researched post with links to interesting content, showing me why I should care? Possibly post-worthy."

Remove the YouTube aspect and at least half the posts on MeFi wouldn't qualify under those criteria.

Plus, (and I say this as someone who over explains most of my own posts,) we should not need to spoonfeed Metafilter readers in order for what we post to be appreciated.
posted by zarq at 4:08 PM on February 28, 2011


Just wait til her next single "Minecraft and Circumcision" comes out...
posted by First Post at 4:30 PM on February 28, 2011


we should not need to spoonfeed Metafilter readers in order for what we post to be appreciated

Open wide, here comes the aeroplane! sharp, pokey foodhole utensil for toddlers!

(Not spoon-ist. Some of my best utensils are spoons.)
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:34 PM on February 28, 2011


that um

that's not what the pickax is for.
posted by The Whelk at 4:34 PM on February 28, 2011


I think it's really funny that Lovecraft in Brooklyn stormed into the thread complaining and asking what was to keep everyone from constantly just posting about their favorite artists...

Yea, especially considering my initial comment was about all the "My favorite artist" postings that happen anyway on Metafilter. While I'm grateful for suggestions of Lovecraftian prog-rock, I'm also not blind to the hilarity that a thread on the Mountain Goats goes pretty much unmolested with people coming into to screech "SHEEPLE!!" at people talking about music/artists they enjoy. I guess it's only open season for pop artists.
posted by kkokkodalk at 4:52 PM on February 28, 2011


I flagged that mountain goats one, but didn't even bother flagging the Gaga after seeing all the gushing posts. Fuck, why are people claiming that someone that sounds EXACTLY like Madonna and looks and acts like Madonna is so original? You can like your trash (hell I no I do) but I don't fucking call it original art.
posted by cyphill at 4:58 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


Anyway, if I hadn't made an earlier double post today, I'd have posted this wicked cool SLYT of a shuttle launch viewed from the cabin of an airplane. (Feel free to re-post.)

There are really awesome finds on YouTube, and Metafilter would be a much less interesting place if we didn't have SLYT posts. If you don't like Lady Gaga, there are so many other posts to read, anyway. Just move on to something that interests you.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 5:01 PM on February 28, 2011


While I'm grateful for suggestions of Lovecraftian prog-rock, I'm also not blind to the hilarity that a thread on the Mountain Goats goes pretty much unmolested with people coming into to screech "SHEEPLE!!" at people talking about music/artists they enjoy. I guess it's only open season for pop artists.

part of it is that there were lots and lots of Lady Gaga posts. it's like... i love indie gaming, but i kinda sigh at the daily Minecraft post. it hasn't been happening lately, but it got annoying. and not just in a 'why don't you just ignore them?' kinda way. in a 'why am i, a dyed in the wool rockist, visiting a site that loves Gaga so much?'

if there was a month of nothing but reposts from Fuck Yeah The Mountain Goats i think people would get pretty annoyed
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 5:03 PM on February 28, 2011


Well, this is just further proof that Lady Gaga is really an Illuminati plant designed to bring down civilization or something or other. I don't know how many productive work hours were wasted HERE on MetaFilter alone but HEY LOOK A UNICORN WEEEEEEEEE.
posted by loquacious at 5:41 PM on February 28, 2011


it's in my brain now
posted by loquacious at 5:45 PM on February 28, 2011


Fuck, why are people claiming that someone that sounds EXACTLY like Madonna and looks and acts like Madonna is so original?

Having WTFV just now, I remember that a fair number of Madonna's singles sucked too.
posted by Joe Beese at 6:18 PM on February 28, 2011


cyphill: "why are people claiming that someone that sounds EXACTLY like Madonna and looks and acts like Madonna is so original?"

People may call Gaga weird, or a standard bearer for a specific kind of freak (with plenty of overlap with the folks Madonna called out to), but do that many people really call her original?

Also, most people don't actually like originality. Actual originality in any art is actually a pretty good predictor of commercial and critical failure.
posted by idiopath at 6:28 PM on February 28, 2011


I still hate her. But you knew that.
posted by jonmc at 6:38 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


I remember that a fair number of Madonna's singles sucked too.

Oh god yeah, some things I like now cause they remind me of being young and on the broadwalk, but oh so many clunkers (Cherish? REALLY? Gah).

I still hate her. But you knew that.

Never change Jon!
posted by The Whelk at 6:55 PM on February 28, 2011


I have to. It's laundry day.
posted by jonmc at 6:59 PM on February 28, 2011


You have a home machine or go to a laundromat?
posted by The Whelk at 7:01 PM on February 28, 2011


Laundromat. across from a bar. I love NY.
posted by jonmc at 7:04 PM on February 28, 2011


Also, it's bedtime. Goodnight.
posted by jonmc at 7:04 PM on February 28, 2011


Nite. May a flight of well shots sing thee to thy rest.
posted by The Whelk at 7:06 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


I still hate her. But you knew that.

i don't want to get sentimental but jonmc, your continued defense of ROCK AND ROLL on Metafilter has been an inspiration to me
posted by Lovecraft In Brooklyn at 7:39 PM on February 28, 2011


It is amazing how many ways you can say "your favorite band sucks".
posted by munchingzombie at 7:44 PM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


and that's just in English
posted by The Whelk at 9:04 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


my favorite band is the gto's - they suck A LOT
posted by pyramid termite at 9:53 PM on February 28, 2011


I am hugely disappointed my Fernando parody got no favourites at all. I mean, it both scanned, well, pretty much, and told a story! It's because I used the word 'poo', isn't it? You're all so fricken sophisticated. Damn, I knew I should have thought of something better there. Anyhow, I hate you all and will now go and start my own blog. So there.
posted by Sparx at 10:11 PM on February 28, 2011


I will forever be amused by how Metafilter as a whole will hate on what their perception of 'hipsters' are and then turn right around to grouse about how better they are for not liking Popular Thing X.
posted by flatluigi at 10:19 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


I liked Popular Thing X before it was cool.
posted by flatluigi at 10:19 PM on February 28, 2011


Thing X totally sold out after the Powerpuff Girls.
posted by The Whelk at 10:21 PM on February 28, 2011


I wonder if all of the millions of words in MeTa posts on "I dislike posts about X" have mattered at all? Have they prevented a single subsequent post about X? Or even once convinced the mods that, yes, posts on X should be deleted?

I don't know, I just have a mental image of people complaining in 1st century BC Rome. "Are we REALLY going to make a huge deal every time Cicero publishes a new oration?"
posted by Chrysostom at 10:24 PM on February 28, 2011 [2 favorites]


I am hugely disappointed my Fernando parody got no favourites at all.

I considered favoriting it, because I like a good lyrical parody and it did indeed scan pretty well so kudos there. But you also got Fernando stuck in my head, so you can burn in Gehenna.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:44 PM on February 28, 2011 [3 favorites]


THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE AIR TONIGHT
IT CALLED US BRIGHT
MEEETATALK......
posted by The Whelk at 10:45 PM on February 28, 2011


Have they prevented a single subsequent post about X?

They have, but you can't tell because your civilization hasn't yet figured out how to move along the probability axis yet.
posted by Dr Dracator at 10:51 PM on February 28, 2011


Plus X is a total pain in the ass to Google for.
posted by box at 11:53 PM on February 28, 2011 [1 favorite]


modlove: But you also got Fernando stuck in my head, so you can burn in Gehenna.
posted by infini at 4:11 AM on March 1, 2011


PLEASE - no more Lady Gaga posts!

The point of Metafilter is to show me things that I wouldn't necessarily see otherwise. To post something that's all over all the media is completely and utterly redundant.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 5:44 AM on March 1, 2011


I had no idea there was a video, before that post. Just as a data point.
posted by FAMOUS MONSTER at 5:56 AM on March 1, 2011 [1 favorite]


I had no idea there was a video, before that post. Just as a data point.

Me neither. I don't view much of the apparently widespread media so it being "all over the media" is irrelevant to me. I wouldn't have known otherwise, therefore, it satisfies the apparent point of Metafilter. On occasion I have seen content elsewhere but did not assume that since I'd seen it elsewhere, every other member of Metafilter had seen it as well.

I don't care for her music so I didn't view the post. I rarely care for videos either, so I didn't view the post. That said I see the potential problem in the hey look there's a new video by Will Smith or Steve Malkmus or Cheap Trick is out! |I imagine the flagging system will handle that.
posted by juiceCake at 6:29 AM on March 1, 2011 [2 favorites]


I would say there's a 90% chance that on any given day, I will spend part of it with either Fernando or Waterloo stuck in my head.
posted by SpiffyRob at 7:20 AM on March 1, 2011


'why am i, a dyed in the wool rockist, visiting a site that loves Gaga so much?'

Oh, grow up. Go somewhere else if that awful disposable pop music offends your delicate sensibilities so much.

As for the Gaga "love," 43 front page posts have mentioned Gaga in the last two years. Most of those reference her in the context of wackiness (covers and such) or in the context of some third party. Probably not more than a dozen are single video links and less than that many are links to Gaga's own videos. And from the beginning Metafilter's Gaga "love" has been a mixture of quasi-ironic/quasi-sincere affection for a catchy entertainer with quasi-ironic/quasi-sincere contempt for a NOCD pop musician. World of Warcraft and computer games in general get as much or more attention here than Lady Gaga and a lot less of the accompanying bitching. I don't care about games at all, but it doesn't bother me that some people like them. Metafilter is a borgasmord, like the kid said, and I'm free to take what I want and leave the rest.
posted by octobersurprise at 7:30 AM on March 1, 2011 [2 favorites]


Sparx: “I am hugely disappointed my Fernando parody got no favourites at all. I mean, it both scanned, well, pretty much, and told a story! It's because I used the word 'poo', isn't it? You're all so fricken sophisticated. Damn, I knew I should have thought of something better there. Anyhow, I hate you all and will now go and start my own blog. So there.”

No. It didn't get favorites because I did it first.
posted by koeselitz at 7:49 AM on March 1, 2011


Oops, I saw that jessamyn's profile already admits that X sucks AMIRITE so I guess these posts do work. Never mind.
posted by Chrysostom at 10:29 AM on March 1, 2011


'why am i, a dyed in the wool rockist, visiting a site that loves Gaga so much?'

Because you might see things like this.
posted by Errant at 10:46 AM on March 1, 2011


As for the Gaga "love," 43 front page posts have mentioned Gaga in the last two years.

And 30 posts about minecraft in roughly the same period.
posted by empath at 10:53 AM on March 1, 2011


er, grar grar minecraft...
posted by infini at 12:19 PM on March 1, 2011


There are 51 David Foster Wallace posts.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:37 PM on March 1, 2011


No. It didn't get favorites because I did it first.

...Which I would have seen if I had remembered that MeTa doesn't have ajaxy recent post numbers in the tab and previewed instead, but by then it was too late. Anyhow, seeing as you gave me a favourite* anyway, I guess I don't actually hate y'all and the world is safe once more from the possibility of me starting a blog.

*I don't care if it was a pity-favourite, I am not proud.
posted by Sparx at 5:11 PM on March 1, 2011


hermitosis writes "I think it's really funny that Lovecraft in Brooklyn stormed into the thread complaining and asking what was to keep everyone from constantly just posting about their favorite artists -- and then after his comments were deleted, went and posted a thread about the new Mountain Goats album. And that thread is going really well! So you see, the system works."

Surprising it wasn't deleted as a stunt post.
posted by Mitheral at 11:07 PM on March 1, 2011


Surprising it wasn't deleted as a stunt post.

I was really all set to pull the level on it, but there was a nice lively conversation going and I hadn't known just how stunty it was until later. If we see a lot of copycat "here is single link to my favorite band" stuff we'll axe it, but nichier stuff like The Mountain Goats has a different sort of appeal to this crowd I guess [i.e. people seem to grok the "flag it and move on" aspect more than for a pop star sort of post]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:26 AM on March 2, 2011




Hey guys, remember when I was the cause of this problem? I'm recovering now. I can even be in the same room as my Lady Gaga Fame Monster CD or in iTunes and decide to listen to R.E.M. instead.

I've gone roughly two days without hearing a Lady Gaga song, which is very difficult in the current media landscape.

Anyway, life's funny like that. Anyone want some stained glass cake?
posted by mccarty.tim at 4:22 PM on March 3, 2011


Got any stained glass coke?
posted by Burhanistan at 4:49 PM on March 3, 2011


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