February 9, 2005

9:20 AM

Is a triple post okay if you knew it was one? (The person who posted this must have known, since the search included in the post shows it.) Is it okay if there are a few more links included this time, and the text is on a different site now? Finally, is it okay if the goal is simply to elicit more discussion on the topic, as it seems to be here?
posted by koeselitz to etiquette/policy at 9:20 AM (17 comments total)

[Really, I don't know. I don't want to be an ass here, and I see that sometimes further conversation about a subject is a good thing. I just don't know if this was the right way to do it.]
posted by koeselitz at 9:21 AM on February 9, 2005

maybe
posted by mischief at 9:23 AM on February 9, 2005

I knew it would only be a matter of time before I was brought before the tribunal.
: )

I searched the URL (MeFi search normally catches the URLs that have been posted before. It came up empty.) I manually went through my 2nd link (summary of MeFi posts on the subject of fascism in the last year) looking for my first URL. I did not see it.

Apparently a commenter DID find it, but as I am swamped today I have not had time to find where it was. Apologies.

The purpose of my post was more of a meta-discussion than a discussion itself (which happens everytime this subject is raised). I thought it interesting that there has been an increase in MeFi posts on the subject - which is itself an indicator that concern on the subject is rising (within this community, as in many others).

For the record, I belong to no "faction" and have no agendas. As an observer of history (and reminded of our human tendency to repeat it) I find the increased parallels between post-Patriot Act America and previous incarnations that have been labeled "fascist" interesting (to say the least).

I am willing to accept any penance for my unintentional transgression. (Well, perhaps not any. . . )
posted by spock at 9:42 AM on February 9, 2005

I am willing to accept any penance for my unintentional transgression.

[warms up paddle, takes practice spank on nearest cute unsuspecting butt]
posted by orange swan at 9:54 AM on February 9, 2005

ouch!
posted by mr.marx at 10:22 AM on February 9, 2005

You're a bad, bad boy spock.
Logic tricks won't get you out of this spanking.
Now bend over and drop trou.
(You have my permission to like it.)


But seriously, the debate over fascism is currently developing, both here and elsewhere. Why wouldn't that conversation be reflected at MeFi?
posted by nofundy at 10:28 AM on February 9, 2005

this is blatantly not a triple post. the meat of spock's post was the treasure trove of links found here:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

and the rense article just provides a source for what the POAC article was exploring.
posted by taumeson at 11:13 AM on February 9, 2005

Yeah, I thought it was a double post too but couldn't find the 14 points article linked here although I'm sure I've seen it before. Maybe in a comment. Regardless, I don't think it's a repeat either.
posted by loquax at 11:15 AM on February 9, 2005

But seriously, the debate over fascism is currently developing, both here and elsewhere. Why wouldn't that conversation be reflected at MeFi?

Yes, so let's just keep posting the fucking Fourteen Points over and over and over and over so we can keep having the same conversation. Because otherwise... the fascists win!
posted by languagehat at 11:55 AM on February 9, 2005

Yes, so let's just keep posting the fucking Fourteen Points over and over and over and over so we can keep having the same conversation. Because otherwise... the fascists win!

It wasn't just the fourteen points--don't be disingenuous.
posted by The God Complex at 1:02 PM on February 9, 2005

It was pretty much just the fourteen points. The news links don't add much; they hardly ever do. For future reference, everybody out there, a string of news links is not an argument. And it's not breathtaking and dramatic when you trot them all out.
posted by koeselitz at 1:34 PM on February 9, 2005

And it's not breathtaking and dramatic when you trot them all out.

So true it deserves repeating. This thread aside, too often people confuse links with "proof" or "evidence" or any old thing, which amazes me. Google is many things, but a 5 minute search does not return "the truth". Yet.
posted by loquax at 1:41 PM on February 9, 2005

Could somebody post the link to "the truth" please?
I think I'd like to bookmark it or something.
posted by spock at 2:23 PM on February 9, 2005

Fourteen points? Again? Even almighty God has only ten.
posted by COBRA! at 2:45 PM on February 9, 2005

It's weird to me, by the way, that nobody has linked Umberto Eco's essay "Eternal Fascism: 14 Ways of Looking At A Blackshirt." It's much, much more ridiculous than these fourteen points people keep passing around, but at least it's more interesting. "Ur-fascism?" Wow!
posted by koeselitz at 3:07 PM on February 9, 2005

"Finally, is it okay if the goal is simply to elicit more discussion on the topic, as it seems to be here?"

No.
posted by majick at 3:26 PM on February 9, 2005

I think a system where interesting previous threads were "featured" would be awesome and fix the despair of posting to a thread you know nobody will ever read again. Except when someone reposts it because they think it is interesting and needs to be discussed again.

[link of the day]
posted by sophist at 12:01 AM on February 10, 2005