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I think that NickDouglas wants me to get my own blog.
As something of a noob, I'm curious as to what the consensus is on what makes a "get your own goddamn blog and quit bothering us" post. I've done a little back reading on MeTa and finding a consensus is difficult. Help me not do it again. Thanks.
posted by PhatLobley to etiquette/policy at 8:24 PM (105 comments total)

fuck NickDouglas.
posted by quonsar at 8:31 PM on March 7, 2005

You did nothing wrong, Nick did.
posted by caddis at 8:32 PM on March 7, 2005

NickDouglas was just trying to be cool. Don't worry about it.
posted by Quartermass at 8:33 PM on March 7, 2005

Not that I put this up looking for validation, but quonsar and caddis, you did make me feel better. I brought this up in my quest to be a humble and able newbie MeFite. It does feel good to know that my post wasn't that bad, though.

On preview: Quartermass made me feel better too.
posted by PhatLobley at 8:36 PM on March 7, 2005

It's a paraphrase line by Homer, of "The Simpsons", uttered ironically to suggest that only an idiot (such as Homer Simpson) would be interested in your ideas.
posted by orthogonality at 8:39 PM on March 7, 2005

NickDouglas is famous. Famous people are never wrong. Ergo... pancakes?
posted by theFlyingSquirrel at 8:41 PM on March 7, 2005

Yeah, Nick owes you an apology. We'll see if he makes it.
posted by mediareport at 8:50 PM on March 7, 2005

I wouldn't say that you did NOTHING wrong. Posts are better (for me at least) when they don't wear their positions on their sleeve (or wave them around like a banner, in this case.)

Present the information, let the reader decide.

Which is better:

George Bush found in crackhouse snorting coke off hooker's tits

or

George Bush found in crackhouse snorting coke off hooker's tits! Well, Dub is at it again! But we all knew this would happen! Should we impeach him? Yes we should! If you disagree then you're wrong because the man is Hitler. HITLER, PEOPLE!

I'm just sayin'.
posted by ColdChef at 8:53 PM on March 7, 2005

On further review, the original post wasn't nearly as bad as my example, but I still hope a point can be gleaned from it.
posted by ColdChef at 8:54 PM on March 7, 2005

Point gleaned, Chef.
posted by PhatLobley at 8:58 PM on March 7, 2005

Good. I was afraid I was coming off ass-like. Carry on, my wayward son.
posted by ColdChef at 8:59 PM on March 7, 2005

I like to often say things and blindly hope that points can be gleaned.
posted by xmutex at 9:02 PM on March 7, 2005

Metafilter: Points Can Be Gleaned
posted by amandaudoff at 9:08 PM on March 7, 2005

What coldchef said.
posted by justgary at 9:15 PM on March 7, 2005

nickdouglas was being dickdouglas. You did nothing wrong, my friend.
posted by ashbury at 9:19 PM on March 7, 2005

Well, the "crazy Republican" was a bit much, ashbury.

Oh, PhatLobley, it's nice to point a thread's participants to MeTa when you MeTa a thread.
posted by mediareport at 9:25 PM on March 7, 2005

Someone is going to have to clean up after all of this gleaning.
posted by xmutex at 9:25 PM on March 7, 2005

I gleaned 'til I gleamed, then glommed 'til I was glum. And Glen is so glam.

Nick Douglas' ideas are not intriguing to me in the least and I do NOT wish to subscribe to his blog.

More importantly, what do I have to do to get dreamghost to ridicule me in a webcomic?
posted by wendell at 9:34 PM on March 7, 2005

What ColdChef said. It's the difference between a rant and a great link(s). Anyone come here for the rants?* Put another way, I shouldn't have to pass your ideological purity test in order to agree with your definition of "best of the web."

*I mean, to the blue. I definitely come to the grey for the rants.
posted by stupidsexyFlanders at 9:35 PM on March 7, 2005

He is apparently trying to work through 43 things and maybe you were number 16.

Unfortunately the attention theFlyingSquirrel has given his blog he will likely, and wrongly, equate with number's 10 and 11.

Another vote for ColdChef's dramatic but good guidance.
posted by geekyguy at 9:38 PM on March 7, 2005

And...scene.
posted by ColdChef at 9:51 PM on March 7, 2005

What's a "public intellectual". Does this mean you read dreamghost comics only in private?
posted by taz at 9:55 PM on March 7, 2005

Oh dear. NickDouglas acted like a jerk, but is cute. If recent history is any indication, this means we will be going on a date very soon (or at least when he finishes college). *sigh*
posted by scody at 10:03 PM on March 7, 2005

Thanks, mediareport. I just didn't want it to seem like a callout. I was really just trying to find a way to make a better post through a discussion here. I'm not looking for an apology from Nick or anything, even if it was snarky.
posted by PhatLobley at 10:05 PM on March 7, 2005

Dick Nouglas
posted by angry modem at 10:10 PM on March 7, 2005

Oh dear. NickDouglas acted like a jerk, but is cute.

Definitely cuter without the glasses. Needs a tighter, non-billg hairstyle...

Sorry, I'll take this to my blog.
posted by AlexReynolds at 10:13 PM on March 7, 2005

Rather embarrassing, really, getting autopsied by MeFiters.

I made a clumsy reference to a Homer Simpson quote: "Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter." This term is used both as a snark and an encouragement, and sometimes as both at once (as in this case). I expected someone to catch the reference immediately. I need to watch less TV.

I did not at all mean that Phat should get a blog. This was a good post.

I acknowledge that my blog is mediocre. I also acknowledge that I am cuter without glasses.

I don't see how this merits a thread full of verbal abuse, but I can't cast the first stone.

Phat, everyone, I'm sorry. Fewer foot-in-mouth snarks, more insightful constructive commentary.

Someone called me Dick Nouglas in third grade.
posted by NickDouglas at 10:34 PM on March 7, 2005

Will you come back and try that again? This time less Nick and more Dick. Or do you really want to ruin everyone's fun?

Some possible options: Nuclear, Screaming Like a Little Girl, Scarface.
posted by underer at 10:42 PM on March 7, 2005

I suppose I could work up some indignance at the name-calling and merciless deconstruction of my life goals, but I can't blame people for rallying to a new poster who compiled a decent set of links.

I mean, I really liked that post. I guess I was just trigger-happy and had nothing helpful to say.

Still, it's a bit of a dismay to discover this thread so late. I didn't expect this sort of thing on MeFi.

On preview: Scarface?
posted by NickDouglas at 10:47 PM on March 7, 2005

GYOFW:

y2karl
postroad

Maybe we could have site where they would mus-wrestle naked, on-video, but I don't think this one is quite it.
posted by scarabic at 10:49 PM on March 7, 2005

That's okay, Nick. In third grade I got called "Mobley Dick" quite a lot.
And my name is pronounced "Mahbley."
You'll really have to hit me over the head w/ Homer Simpson quotes. Subtlety might make me post to MeTa and get people to say mean things about you, even if I didn't mean for them to. My bad.
posted by PhatLobley at 10:51 PM on March 7, 2005

Well I'd be happy if this thread were judged complete. What do you think?
posted by NickDouglas at 10:53 PM on March 7, 2005

Completely complete.
posted by PhatLobley at 10:54 PM on March 7, 2005

Not so fast n00b's, we're not through here just yet...
posted by Quartermass at 10:59 PM on March 7, 2005

Yeah. At least let us answer all your damn questions:

Scarface.
posted by mediareport at 11:01 PM on March 7, 2005

I didn't expect this sort of thing on MeFi.

NO ONE EXPECTS aww to hell with it.
posted by beth at 11:05 PM on March 7, 2005

I also acknowledge that I am cuter without glasses.

Oh dear. Nick Douglas also does not understand that all the best girls go crazy for the glasses!
posted by scody at 12:19 AM on March 8, 2005

There's a very small percentage of new members that seem to be trying to win kudos with what they perceive to be the "cool" ways to insult a post. While their complaints do cover on-going recurring issues, they pick the very worst examples. I wish they'd stop. This was by no means the worst example, though. Nick's taken it well.
posted by nthdegx at 2:55 AM on March 8, 2005

what do I have to do to get dreamghost to ridicule me in a webcomic?

you just gotta be in the right place at the right time. it's quite a talent, you know.
posted by quonsar at 4:35 AM on March 8, 2005

I have to say that's possibly the worst webcomic of all time. Anil Dash actually got wind of it and wondered what was going on. What a waste of his time.
posted by NickDouglas at 4:37 AM on March 8, 2005

and we should all be concerned about anil dashs time.
posted by quonsar at 4:52 AM on March 8, 2005

I just mean that Anil Dash, unlike me, has a job, has a company in fact, and has a decent reputation to uphold. I stare in youthful wide-eyed wonder at this and question how he gets anything done if he finds every punk who mentions him.
posted by NickDouglas at 4:57 AM on March 8, 2005

Wait, I wear glasses. Where are all the women going crazy?
posted by exlotuseater at 4:57 AM on March 8, 2005

i think it's a pretty sucky post and i also think you came running here too quickly. grow a thicker skin and post less newsfilter/politics.
posted by andrew cooke at 5:16 AM on March 8, 2005

I just mean that...

WHOOSH!
posted by quonsar at 5:19 AM on March 8, 2005

exlotuseater : "Wait, I wear glasses. Where are all the women going crazy?"

Presumably in asylums/mental health institutions?
posted by bugbread at 5:35 AM on March 8, 2005

I'm really confused. Were comments deleted in the MeFi thread? I saw ND's comment and took it for a compliment. Pretending to call yourself out in MeTa so that other people can tell you that you're cool and someone else (who wasn't even insulting you) is a dick is really lame. Also, dull. I don't mind pointless MeTa mock autocallouts when they're full of drama and entertaining, but this is just tedious.
posted by anapestic at 5:39 AM on March 8, 2005

anapestic : "I saw ND's comment and took it for a compliment."

Good for you. PhatLobley didn't. Neither did I, for that matter, but I'm not really involved here. But you identified the comment correctly. Very nice.

anapestic : "Pretending to call yourself out in MeTa so that other people can tell you that you're cool and someone else (who wasn't even insulting you) is a dick is really lame. Also, dull."

Good thing that isn't what happened here. Phatlobley took ND's comment as a complaint, not a compliment. If PhatLobley had pretended to call himself out in order to cull compliments and show that ND is a dick, that would be really lame. And dull. But that's not what happened here, so what's your point?
posted by bugbread at 6:03 AM on March 8, 2005

he's not even that cute.
posted by crunchland at 6:05 AM on March 8, 2005

I've Googled around and I can't find anymore information on Bush coke and tits. I get millions of hits but none of them are the story noted. Have any further information?
posted by mss at 6:23 AM on March 8, 2005

If everyone started a look-at-me meta thread to whine about one snarky comment, the baby jesus would not exactly be jitterbugging. The comment had already been slapped down in the thread, so Phatlobley must have known that GYOBFW wasn't the consensus view.
posted by CunningLinguist at 6:32 AM on March 8, 2005

I honestly didn't know what the consensus view was, and like I said above, I wasn't looking for validation or an apology from Nick. I misinterpreted his comment and based on that wanted the community to clarify for me what made a post that would be better posted in one's own blog.
I probably shouldn't have started this MeTa thread, especially in light of the abuse Nick took.
posted by PhatLobley at 6:58 AM on March 8, 2005

WHOOSH!

Pardon?
posted by NickDouglas at 7:04 AM on March 8, 2005

The comic is funny because it's true...

also what quonsar said
posted by Dreamghost at 7:10 AM on March 8, 2005

MetaFilter: Baby Jesus is not exactly jitterbugging
posted by nthdegx at 7:32 AM on March 8, 2005

MetaFilter: This rather weak in-joke has long since passed the point where it could be considered to be even approaching being amusing.
posted by biffa at 9:19 AM on March 8, 2005

BifFa: weblog as in-joke.
posted by sonofsamiam at 9:24 AM on March 8, 2005

MetaFilter: I still find this admittedly weak in-joke quite amusing.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 9:24 AM on March 8, 2005

Holy crap, wtf is wrong with you folks? MeTa is the place to discuss issues relating to MeFi and AskMe, not pick apart members' personal/external sites. You should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.

This is a new low for the site, and we've stooped pretty low before.
posted by mkultra at 9:36 AM on March 8, 2005

The comic is not funny because dreamghost is just jealous that the Dasher is professionally involved with something worth bragging about... I mean, fergunnessake, POGS?
posted by wendell at 9:44 AM on March 8, 2005

If PhatLobley had pretended to call himself out in order to cull compliments and show that ND is a dick, that would be really lame. And dull. But that's not what happened here, so what's your point?

My point is that that's exactly what did happen. Which is what I said, I think. Now the only remaining question is whether you're pretending to be so obtuse as to not understand that or if you're really that obtuse. I'm willing to leave it as an open question, however.
posted by anapestic at 9:45 AM on March 8, 2005

If people are looking for a post to which it is appropriate to reply "Get Your Own Blog," I recommend this one.
posted by DevilsAdvocate at 9:51 AM on March 8, 2005

Maybe every post that someone doesn't like with should get its own blog. There probably wouldn't be much left to Mefi, though.
posted by AlexReynolds at 10:12 AM on March 8, 2005

I like the glasses. I'm also glad that NickDouglas did not turn out to be a dick, and in fact, handled this rather well.
posted by LittleMissCranky at 10:29 AM on March 8, 2005

Can I go on record as saying that the word "cute," when applied to men sounds insipid? It's a word you apply to puppy dogs, and little children with pales and shovels.

Plus, it goes nowhere. If you tell a guy he's buff, he can work out to accentuate it. Tell a dude he's handsome, he'll pay attention to his grooming. Tell him he's "cute," and what's he supposed to do, flap his lips and gurgle like an infant?
posted by jonmc at 10:47 AM on March 8, 2005

jonmc's cute when he's contrary.
posted by liam at 10:52 AM on March 8, 2005

Wait, I'm confused. Is there a newsletter we can all subscribe to or not?
posted by haqspan at 10:52 AM on March 8, 2005

Oh, jonmc, you just don't understand the gays at all. You tell a guy he's cute, and he spends more on grooming products.
posted by anapestic at 10:54 AM on March 8, 2005

*stops bathing and paying attention to clothing in protest*
posted by jonmc at 10:59 AM on March 8, 2005

Whoa. I thought we were past the point where I was likely to have my sexuality questioned.
posted by NickDouglas at 11:08 AM on March 8, 2005

The comic is funny because it's true...

You are going to have to explain that one a bit more (~always the sign of a good comic~).

What is true? Are you saying that Anil only comes on the 3 flavors of MeFi to talk about his work? The last time I remember him posting was to find out how to free a frozen bolt from his bathroom sink. My guess would be that if he posted about his job, it was directly in response to a question posted to him, or in general that he could answer. Am I wrong?
posted by thirteen at 11:30 AM on March 8, 2005

never assume anythig in the MeFi universe.

can this thread be closed now please?
posted by edgeways at 11:32 AM on March 8, 2005

I thought we were past the point where I was likely to have my sexuality questioned.

You, sir, are no Guckert.
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:51 AM on March 8, 2005

Maybe we could have site where they would mus-wrestle naked, on-video, but I don't think this one is quite it.

Grind that ax, grudgeboy...
posted by y2karl at 12:24 PM on March 8, 2005

1. I wasn't questioning anyone's sexuality; I was merely explaining the situations in which "cute" is considered a compliment by a man.

2. You would have to be way more interesting before it would occur to me that you might be cool enough to be gay.
posted by anapestic at 12:36 PM on March 8, 2005

cool enough to be gay

If only I'd saved my snark for something that offensive.
posted by NickDouglas at 12:46 PM on March 8, 2005

I was merely explaining the situations in which "cute" is considered a compliment by a man.

I understand that it's a compliment. I just think it's a stupid word for one.
posted by jonmc at 1:08 PM on March 8, 2005

I think jonmc is scrumptious.
posted by AlexReynolds at 1:16 PM on March 8, 2005

I think jonmc is dee-lish!
posted by sonofsamiam at 1:27 PM on March 8, 2005

The belief that you need a blog is hardly a grudge, karl. It's an inevitable consequence of simple observation. You meet the profile. You are the profile. But I know you prefer to imagine that I spend my nights plotting and scheming against you because I *hate* you. Ech.
posted by scarabic at 1:44 PM on March 8, 2005

jonmc? jonmc is fabulous!
posted by taz at 1:48 PM on March 8, 2005

Adorable. I believe the word you're all looking for is adorable!
posted by scody at 2:20 PM on March 8, 2005

This thread is going straight to my hips, I just know it.
posted by Kleptophoria! at 2:23 PM on March 8, 2005

But I know you prefer to imagine that I spend my nights plotting and scheming against you because I *hate* you. Ech.

You're the one who brought my name up, grudgeboy.
posted by y2karl at 2:54 PM on March 8, 2005

Along with PostRoad's, because you both come to mind on this subject. The poster asked if he'd cross the GYOFW line and I offered him two cases of people I think are over that line, so he could get my opinion of where the line is.

It's germaine to the conversation. Get over yourself.
posted by scarabic at 3:10 PM on March 8, 2005

Scarabic, GYOFB.
posted by AlexReynolds at 3:12 PM on March 8, 2005

I think jonmc is scrumptious.
I think jonmc is dee-lish!

actually, with all the beer, salt and nicotine I consume, I probably tast savory like a marinated smoked bratwurst. But thanks just the same.
posted by jonmc at 3:44 PM on March 8, 2005

It's germaine to the conversation. Get over yourself.

do you mean jermaine?

or germane?
posted by Hat Maui at 4:01 PM on March 8, 2005

p.s.-- totally not trying to be a cock. i'm just amused by jermaine.
posted by Hat Maui at 4:02 PM on March 8, 2005

Clearly I was referring to y2karl's trademark jeri-curls.

;)
posted by scarabic at 4:23 PM on March 8, 2005

Man, Alex is having a bad day. Hang in there, buddy!
posted by graventy at 4:49 PM on March 8, 2005

Adorable ain't got nothin' on precious.
posted by LittleMissCranky at 6:25 PM on March 8, 2005

*mutilates self with cigarette in sheer desperation*
posted by jonmc at 6:57 PM on March 8, 2005

anapestic : " My point is that that's exactly what did happen. Which is what I said, I think. Now the only remaining question is whether you're pretending to be so obtuse as to not understand that or if you're really that obtuse. I'm willing to leave it as an open question, however."

I understand what you're saying. I'm neither obtuse, nor pretending to be obtuse. I'm disagreeing with what you're saying. You're saying "X happened, and X sucks". I'm saying, "Yeah, X sucks, but this isn't X".
posted by bugbread at 7:04 PM on March 8, 2005

Man, Alex is having a bad day. Hang in there, buddy!

?
posted by AlexReynolds at 7:11 PM on March 8, 2005

you just gotta be in the right place at the right time. it's quite a talent, you know.

Oh, Quonsar, I love how you and Michael deny that being able to communicate with others and recognize opportunity is a talent. Teach me! Teach me!
posted by anildash at 10:12 PM on March 8, 2005

I love how you and Michael deny that being able to communicate with others and recognize opportunity is a talent.

i don't deny that at all, weasel. that's not what you said. you said being in the right place at the right time was a talent. it's not. it is an accident viewed in hindsight. it's being born on third base and thinking you hit a triple. note well your attempt to rewrite your own words, weasel. your fervent desire to be tim berners-lee can never make it so. doesn't that just burn your ass!
posted by quonsar at 5:32 AM on March 9, 2005

?

These threads seemed rather anti-AR, to me, at least.
posted by graventy at 5:55 AM on March 9, 2005

These threads seemed rather anti-AR, to me, at least.

Not sure what I have to do with the second link, but sweet Jesus, who cares about a bunch of sanctimonious fanb0y losers, when two pillars of the Internets are pimpslapping each other?
posted by AlexReynolds at 7:27 AM on March 9, 2005

two pillars of the Internets are pimpslapping each other

That part must have been deleted before I got here.
posted by timeistight at 8:29 AM on March 9, 2005

Wait...they're pillars? Of the internet? Why don't I know who they are?
posted by graventy at 9:06 AM on March 9, 2005

Actually, that's a misprint, graventy, he meant "pillows of the internet." We're having a pillow fight. Whee!
posted by jonmc at 9:19 AM on March 9, 2005

Pillow fight? Cute? Are you joining the Dark Side, jonmc?

Welcome aboard!
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:31 AM on March 9, 2005

It's a pillow in a camoflauge patterned case, filled with buckshot, with a little cozy for my malt liquor bottle. Don't get any big idears.

Plus, mrs. jonmc swings a mean pillow.
posted by jonmc at 9:39 AM on March 9, 2005

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