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      <title>Comments on: Did last year's wiki fiasco spoil April Fools frontpages for good? (2005)</title>
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  	<title>Did last year&apos;s wiki fiasco spoil April Fools frontpages for good? (2005)</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005</link>	
  	<description>Did last year&apos;s wiki fiasco spoil April Fools frontpages for good, or did I miss the party this year?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:42:27 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: iconomy</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211211</link>	
  	<description>We had the party but forgot to invite you. Sorry.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:58:05 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>iconomy</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: sciurus</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211212</link>	
  	<description>Someone posted a MetaTalk thread that got deleted.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211212</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:59:48 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>sciurus</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Peter H</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211213</link>	
  	<description>&lt;i&gt;We had the party but forgot to invite you. Sorry.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Ha, well, um ...&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;img src=&quot;http://gladstone.vsb.bc.ca/story00/pie/3.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(felt silly for posting the question but Matt&apos;s stunt was very entertaining last year)</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:00:43 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211214</link>	
  	<description>You can still join in the fun! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aol.com/&quot;&gt;The current domain for the wiki&lt;/a&gt; is still going strong.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211214</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:03:32 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Smart Dalek</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Peter H</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211217</link>	
  	<description>Ha, ha, I clicked it, I clicked it.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I blame 08/01 for this change in April Follies. Good night folks!</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211217</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:14:20 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: mathowie</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211229</link>	
  	<description>I was too tired this year and couldn&apos;t think of anything to trump past years. I&apos;ve done a wiki, a gopher server, sold it to Google and Kuro5hin. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
What else is left? &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(seems the same lack of funny is a problem this year everywhere -- I&apos;d rate this year&apos;s april fools online overall at about 1% funny, 99% dumb, and usually the ratio is more like 25-75)</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:41:31 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: mischief</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211237</link>	
  	<description>Like everything, April Fools Day runs in cycles. Give it a few years and the good stuff will be back.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(We believe one of the problems is that many pranksters simply don&apos;t plan far enough ahead, but we admit that that speculation is open to argument.)</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:53:20 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>mischief</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: anastasiav</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211238</link>	
  	<description>&lt;i&gt;What else is left? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Ideas for next year:  Turn MeFi into a photos-only blog (except you&apos;d probably have a goat problem), Name Steve@ as guest editor for the day; Name Quonsar as guest editor for the day; confuse the hell out of everyone by turning the main page green and the AskMe page blue; announce a $1000 yearly membership fee; put up a big &quot;closed for rennovations&quot; page...&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
.... &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
... c&apos;mon, I know some of the other members are far more creative than I am.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;small&gt;I missed the Wiki thing, sadly.  I wish there was an archive/mirror of its early, mid, and final state somewhere...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:56:25 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>anastasiav</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: anastasiav</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211239</link>	
  	<description>&lt;small&gt;By the way, the MeTa post that got deleted was a joke.  Right?  Matt?  Right?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Looks over shoulder...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211239</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 12:57:20 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>anastasiav</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: riffola</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211242</link>	
  	<description>MetaFilter could always pull a Jorn, and run off to the dessert for a year and then come back without any reason, and just pick up where it left off. No questions answered.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:04:50 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>riffola</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211252</link>	
  	<description>Just put gigantic, blinking ads all over the front page and then put a post in MetaTalk, &quot;so, uh... yeah... gigantic blinking ads.&quot;</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211252</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:23:06 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: orthogonality</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211255</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/40904#comment&quot;&gt;Sorry&lt;/a&gt;, mathowie, I thought you were making a self-referential April Fool&apos;s joke, and I was trying to play along.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:28:36 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>orthogonality</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: TedW</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211265</link>	
  	<description>You mean the 502-bad gateway error I kept getting earlier wasn&apos;t a joke?</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211265</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:56:31 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>TedW</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: DrJohnEvans</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211268</link>	
  	<description>&lt;i&gt;I&apos;ve done a wiki, a gopher server, sold it to Google and Kuro5hin.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Some of these were appreciated more than others.  For instance, the K5 buyout was what introduced me to MeFi; I&apos;d never heard of this place before seeing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/1/05035/09001&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;.  It took me a while to warm up to this place.  I remember hating the blue colour scheme and using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20030207043424/www.metafilter.com/m4.mefi&quot;&gt;Met4filter.org style&lt;/a&gt; until it broke.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:07:58 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>DrJohnEvans</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: orthogonality</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211275</link>	
  	<description>anastasiav &lt;a href=&apos;http://metatalk.metafilter.com/mefi/9318#211238&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot; Ideas for next year: &quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Change the &quot;posted by&quot; attribution to a different user name for each comment.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
All users have a number, and I assume comment authors are identified in the database by that number.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Say that Mefi has 23028 users, and assume that the comment table is called &quot;comments&quot; and the structure of the comments table is something like:&lt;br&gt;
comment_id, post_id, user_id, comment_text, whatever&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Run this sql:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
1. Rename the comments table&lt;br&gt;
alter table comments rename to comments_base&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
2. Create a view to replace the table&lt;br&gt;
create view comments as &lt;br&gt;
select comment_id, post_id, cast( random() * 100000 as int ) % 23028 +1 as user_id, comment_text, whatever&lt;br&gt;
from comments_base&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
3. Then recompile any other views and stored procedures so they see the new comments view rather than the old table.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Each comment then gets a randomly assigned user name, which changes on each page view.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Another way to do this would be to make the changes constant, so that Mefi readers could try to figure out who the comments belonged to. To do that, you&apos;d do the same as before, but you&apos;d generate the random number only once. We&apos;ll pick the number 15678. Only the view has to change:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
create view comments as &lt;br&gt;
select comment_id, post_id, ( user_id + 15678 ) % 23028 +1 as user_id, comment_text, whatever&lt;br&gt;
from comments_base</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:03:36 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>orthogonality</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: eyeballkid</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211278</link>	
  	<description>Well, you&apos;ve ruined that one.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211278</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:20:16 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>eyeballkid</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: ColdChef</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211280</link>	
  	<description>Here&apos;s an idea...if anyone has a funny concept: EMAIL IT TO MATT FOR GDS SAKE!</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211280</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:19:10 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>ColdChef</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211281</link>	
  	<description>&lt;i&gt;(seems the same lack of funny is a problem this year everywhere -- I&apos;d rate this year&apos;s april fools online overall at about 1% funny, 99% dumb, and usually the ratio is more like 25-75)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I think it&apos;s because these are pretty grim times.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:25:40 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>five fresh fish</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Ethereal Bligh</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211283</link>	
  	<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Change the &apos;posted by&apos; attribution to a different user name for each comment.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Man, that would &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; confuse and piss everyone off.  It&apos;d be a great April Fool&apos;s prank.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211283</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:47:17 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Ethereal Bligh</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: graventy</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211284</link>	
  	<description>&lt;em&gt;Just put gigantic, blinking ads all over the front page and then put a post in MetaTalk, &quot;so, uh... yeah... gigantic blinking ads.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Awesome.  Just awesome.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Or, you could just put up a JRun error page.....&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
too close to home?</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211284</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:01:47 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>graventy</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: mathowie</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211286</link>	
  	<description>but grim times usually lead to good art (just not this year)</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211286</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:46:00 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: mathowie</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211287</link>	
  	<description>guh, I should have done a joke site about JRun. If I would have thought of it earlier this week I could have done something great with that.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211287</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:46:31 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: jonmc</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211288</link>	
  	<description>This is Dr. Flugenhuffer. The man you know as jonmc drowned in a beer stein at 3:45 this afternoon.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211288</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:53:14 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>jonmc</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: graventy</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211291</link>	
  	<description>&lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; am the real Dr. Flugenhuffer!  This man is a fake!  And he still refuses to admit that the moon landing was faked!</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211291</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:37:47 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>graventy</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: dg</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211292</link>	
  	<description>Just wipe the DNS for the day - scare the crap out of 20,000 people AND get a day off from babysitting them into the bargain.</description>
  	<guid isPermaLink="false">comment:metatalk.metafilter.com,2005:site.9318-211292</guid>
  	<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:41:08 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>dg</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: NinjaPirate</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211295</link>	
  	<description>I was hoping Matt would put up a deliberately awful rendition of the new design for a day: lots of overlapping text, a pre-teen colour scheme and a few well-chosen animated GIFs.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
There should probably be a punchline here.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 03:10:42 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>NinjaPirate</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: taz</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211297</link>	
  	<description>&lt;small&gt;^ insert above ^&lt;/small&gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Do you really think I wished for a 12-inch pianist?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:51:22 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>taz</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: orthogonality</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211298</link>	
  	<description>eyeballkid &lt;a href=&apos;http://metatalk.metafilter.com/mefi/9318#211278&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Well, you&apos;ve ruined that one.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Not at all. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The beauty of my proposal is that it would &quot;sneak up&quot; on users, few would notice it until they saw a controversial post apparently signed by a Mefite they&apos;d previously taken notice of: &quot;Whaaaa? Ethereal Bligh just wrote &apos;George W. Bush is our greatest Prezidint EVAR!&apos;&quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:54:16 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>orthogonality</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: thomcatspike</title>
  	<link>http://metatalk.metafilter.com/9318/Did-last-years-wiki-fiasco-spoil-April-Fools-frontpages-for-good-2005#211304</link>	
  	<description>&lt;em&gt;(seems the same lack of funny is a problem this year everywhere -- I&apos;d rate this year&apos;s april fools online overall at about 1% funny, 99% dumb, and usually the ratio is more like 25-75)&lt;br&gt;
 I think it&apos;s because these are pretty grim times.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Since the day was at the end of the work week it would be well known which would make it harder pulling the joke off. Especially looking at the fact it fell on many employees&apos; pay day by being the month&apos;s first day and Friday.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:54:19 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>thomcatspike</dc:creator>
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