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Signs you are spending too much time on MetaFilter
"There have been no links and 1 comment posted since your last visit"
And it's yours. Is there a better sign you're spending too much time on MetaFilter?
And it's yours. Is there a better sign you're spending too much time on MetaFilter?
What to call a double comment?
Weekend Humdinger: We lack a term to distinguish repeatedly posted comments in a thread, from front page posts which cover already charted links or territory. Any cute, pithy suggestions to tell one "double post" from the other?
Shorter user comments page
Could the user comments page (./search_comments.cfm?user_ID=XXXX) be set to return only the most recent 20 or so threads posted to, with an option to show the full list at bottom? Increasingly, I'll check the front page just to see if any new threads have been posted, then pop over to my own user comments list to follow up on recent threads I've been interested in and commented on (easier than re-find them on the crowded front page). I'm thinking this might help reduce server bandwidth and db querying, and return the page more quickly.
Unless I'm the only one that goes to my user comments page with any regularity, in which case it's not likely to make much difference. :)
Notification of new threads and comments.
Would it be possible to add a "There have been X new threads and Y new comments on MetaTalk since your last visit" to the MetaFilter page?
Comment guidelines?
We all know the guidelines for front page posts and obviously the rules are a bit more lax for comments, but what exactly is (or should be) the policy on deleting comments? Do ones like this qualify for the big eighty-six?
What about an option to display the last 10 or 20 most recently commented on posts?
Most recent!? What about an option to display the last 10 or 20 most recently commented on posts? If you counted the initial post as a comment it might be a way to a)save bandwidth and b) keep up on what's being discussed.
For me metafilter is about discussion, and this would be a great tool to cut through the clutter.
Oh, and a pony.
For me metafilter is about discussion, and this would be a great tool to cut through the clutter.
Oh, and a pony.
Can my comments include my posts?
I have no idea how difficult this might be, but it would be nice if "My comments" also included threads I started even if I didn't add any comments to them.
10000th comment
10,000! We should have a party.
As a new user I find myself over-stimulated by MeFi...
As a new user I find myself over-stimulated by MeFi and so tend to bore the pants off everyone with too many comments. This may sound ridiculous but I am a great believer in good manners and would like to know what the acceptable limit is for comments per day?
On the other hand, I think interactivity within each thread is much more interesting than mere lists of separate comments. Engaging personally with other members of the community and directly addressing their thoughts seems more fruitful and respectful than just adding to the sum of opinions.
If there is some sort of "ethos" about it being uncool to answer someone else's post I think it it's misplaced. I know of three other newbies, more intimidated than myself, who are shying away from full participation because they feel they would be mocked.
Can a debate be started about what constitutes reasonable person-to-person debate, within the accepted and laudable public framework that MeFi has established?
I'd sincerely like to read comments from older members - preferably with good memories of their greenhorn days - on this question and feel sure we would all benefit from the resulting discussion.
On the other hand, I think interactivity within each thread is much more interesting than mere lists of separate comments. Engaging personally with other members of the community and directly addressing their thoughts seems more fruitful and respectful than just adding to the sum of opinions.
If there is some sort of "ethos" about it being uncool to answer someone else's post I think it it's misplaced. I know of three other newbies, more intimidated than myself, who are shying away from full participation because they feel they would be mocked.
Can a debate be started about what constitutes reasonable person-to-person debate, within the accepted and laudable public framework that MeFi has established?
I'd sincerely like to read comments from older members - preferably with good memories of their greenhorn days - on this question and feel sure we would all benefit from the resulting discussion.
Thread Hijacking
Thread hijacking
Should the wandering and fission of the topics in MeFi conversation be seen as an abuse of the openness of the forum, or should it be welcome as the natural state of a healthy and creative exchange? My first reaction is to resist attemps by others to limit the scope of the conversation, but I can see reasons to keep it focused, too, especially given the short lifetime of any thread. I want to know what the rest of you think.
Should the wandering and fission of the topics in MeFi conversation be seen as an abuse of the openness of the forum, or should it be welcome as the natural state of a healthy and creative exchange? My first reaction is to resist attemps by others to limit the scope of the conversation, but I can see reasons to keep it focused, too, especially given the short lifetime of any thread. I want to know what the rest of you think.
Thread/Comment and User Growth statistics, July 2001
Thread/Comment and User Growth statistics are up for July. This is the first month that threads and comments actually dropped slightly, largely because new user signups are still disabled. Also, we broke 10,000 user IDs yesterday. Congratulations, Ricci.
Best threads get least comments
There are times when I see threads like the one on Clippings or the physics simulation lab and I could express that these threads have a value that cannot be measured by the number of comments. It is too bad that threads that inspire outrage and contention gather more comments, and as such, appear to have more value to the community.
Pagination Pony for Personal Pages
could the "http://www.metafilter.com/search_posts.cfm?user_ID=xxxx" page be split up into multiple pages? Kind of a "page 1 of 12" deal. When trying to read through the comments of our more senior members, the download time is reminiscent of post 1142.
This is why I fear for Metafilter.
"I thought I told you to go screw yourself, you fascist piece of shit."
This is why I fear for Metafilter. Not that people get away with this--he got called on it--but the fact that people feel it's necessary or desirable to say things like this to each other, increasingly, in all kinds of contexts. I don't care how vehemently you disagree, nobody here is "a piece of shit." I'm not asking for "sanctions" or anything, just wondering: is there any way to cultivate a sense of civility here, or should we just give up and leave the place to the jackals?
This is why I fear for Metafilter. Not that people get away with this--he got called on it--but the fact that people feel it's necessary or desirable to say things like this to each other, increasingly, in all kinds of contexts. I don't care how vehemently you disagree, nobody here is "a piece of shit." I'm not asking for "sanctions" or anything, just wondering: is there any way to cultivate a sense of civility here, or should we just give up and leave the place to the jackals?
Question for Matt
Question for Matt: How long would someone's MeFi posting privileges be maintained if they posted about "how many niggers" there are on MeFi? Or the number of "kikes"? Is there a limit here, at any point on the scale?
Self-links in comments.
has bonzo gone too far? three of four posts have been self-links, and now this comment....
Is the MetaFilter format of daily topic division restrictive?
Is the Metafilter format of daily topic division restrictive?
A "Post with Comment" feature?
A "Post with Comment" feature, which enables you to post a link *and* the first comment in a thread at the same time.
When is something "worth" posting?
I am wary of posting things from the new york times. I guess since many of the things in the times are discussion-worthy, it has to have some personal significance or other spin to be worth a link. also, it needs to be from the last week, even if it hasn't been posted before. that's my impression right now. any comments?
also what about posting this ted rall cartoon? it isn't the type of thing that would garner dozens of comments, i don't think. so i guess i can think about it logically and decide whether it's worth posting. at the same time, i would like to spark talk about ted rall's stuff. my personal website isn't really set up for that sort of thing and doesn't get enough visitors to get an actual discussion going. so what do i do?
also what about posting this ted rall cartoon? it isn't the type of thing that would garner dozens of comments, i don't think. so i guess i can think about it logically and decide whether it's worth posting. at the same time, i would like to spark talk about ted rall's stuff. my personal website isn't really set up for that sort of thing and doesn't get enough visitors to get an actual discussion going. so what do i do?
So many comments
200 posts in 8 hours (150 in the first 3)? My, how time flies when you're having fun.
Is this the future of MeFi? An explosion of comments so overwhelming conversation is useless?
Is this the future of MeFi? An explosion of comments so overwhelming conversation is useless?
Sometimes I stash a topic href in my bookmarks for a few days
Sometimes I stash a topic href in my bookmarks for a few days, so I don't forget about it as it rolls further and further off the front page. It Would Be Neat if topic pages declared how many new messages they contained, preempting a bit of thought as to whether it's worth scrolling down and finding my place again.
Request: a way to reset 'new' comments.
I totally depend on the new-since-your-last-visit feature to determine which threads to read, but sometimes I'll load up Metafilter and then something comes up and I don't have a chance to read those 200 new comments.
I would love a tiny little button somewhere on the homepage to the effect of "Forget I was here," so that I could come back in another hour or two and see all 300 or new comments, not just the new ones since my aborted visit.
I would love a tiny little button somewhere on the homepage to the effect of "Forget I was here," so that I could come back in another hour or two and see all 300 or new comments, not just the new ones since my aborted visit.
Is anyone else having trouble with the My Comments sorting option disappearing?
Is anyone else having trouble with the My Comments sorting option disappearing?
weirdness
Wierdness. I'm logged in and all, but comments are always staying "new." I've tried logging in, then out, then back in again, trying refreshing the home page, closing broswer, nothing. My cookie settings are all on "accept." I'll read a discussion, go back to the home page, and all the topics still stay the same number of "new" comments. Anyone else having this problem? I'm using IE 5.0, Win98.
Recent comments: how recent are they?
A question on the Recent Comments feature: how far back in time does it traverse?
I can't post comments using the new prevent-double-post-code
Boy, I hate to gripe, but using Opera 3.6, *blush* I can't post comments using the new prevent-double-post-code. It always previews, I'm guessing it's coz both the preview and post buttons have the name 'post.'
Grabbing Recent Comments
Thanks to SQL whiz Eric, there is now a feature to grab the most recent comments, on 20 threads, sorted by the most recent comments. This will allow things to "bubble up" again when someone comments on an old thread. I think it's a useful, good feature, but could be abused later on, but for now it's better than nothing. It's available for both members and non-members, if you find any bugs, let me know here. It requires javascript to work.
Stephen Den Beste's 1000th comment
Stephen Den Beste's next comment will be his 1000th. Congrats, although Matt is still kicking all asses in terms of thread postings.
They're fluoridating our water and embedding sound files in our pages!!!
They're fluoridating our water and embedding sound files in our pages!!!
First of all, it's fucking hilarious. Let's get that out of the way right now. And it's perfect for a "light" thread like this. I don't know the exact technical mumbo-jumbo that got it in there or who put it there (was that you, Matt?), but rock the house.
But. I didn't think it was possible to do such trickery on MeFi. If it was Matt's doing, then there's no real problem. However, could any user do this? Say, if there was a thread ragging on Dubya (Here? On this page? Heaven forbid!), could someone embed a sound file of W mangling English? Is it possible for some really CLEVER guy to embed that JPG with W. side by side with chimpanzees? (Because I need to see it AGAIN, because I certainly haven't gotten it through email about five billion times!)*
Just curious.
* You see, George W. Bush has been pillored in the media because he is supposedly not intelligent! Therefore, comparing him with a chimpanzee is quite humorous, especially when they happen to have similar facial expressions! Get it? Get it? GET IT?!?!?
First of all, it's fucking hilarious. Let's get that out of the way right now. And it's perfect for a "light" thread like this. I don't know the exact technical mumbo-jumbo that got it in there or who put it there (was that you, Matt?), but rock the house.
But. I didn't think it was possible to do such trickery on MeFi. If it was Matt's doing, then there's no real problem. However, could any user do this? Say, if there was a thread ragging on Dubya (Here? On this page? Heaven forbid!), could someone embed a sound file of W mangling English? Is it possible for some really CLEVER guy to embed that JPG with W. side by side with chimpanzees? (Because I need to see it AGAIN, because I certainly haven't gotten it through email about five billion times!)*
Just curious.
* You see, George W. Bush has been pillored in the media because he is supposedly not intelligent! Therefore, comparing him with a chimpanzee is quite humorous, especially when they happen to have similar facial expressions! Get it? Get it? GET IT?!?!?
I'm sorry I called out a user who self-linked
http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/5157
I ended up getting some slack on my comment toward Noah Grey for his self-linking within the referred mefi thread. I apologize if I stepped out of bounds in calling Noah on his self-linking. mathowie, I think you do need to make guidelines in self-linking (as well as members policing metafilter) a bit more clear. I had previously thought that self-linking is a offense all around while I guess it was just limited to the main page logging.
Again, apologies.
I ended up getting some slack on my comment toward Noah Grey for his self-linking within the referred mefi thread. I apologize if I stepped out of bounds in calling Noah on his self-linking. mathowie, I think you do need to make guidelines in self-linking (as well as members policing metafilter) a bit more clear. I had previously thought that self-linking is a offense all around while I guess it was just limited to the main page logging.
Again, apologies.
New Comments Only
I tread warily here, but... Matt, you've been working on customisation and filtering, have you considered a preference that would display only new items? I've looked at the current Prefs page and don't see it, nor do I think it's come up in these threads discussing the filtering feature set (obvious apologies if I'm walking back over old, tired ground...).
A simple boolean should be enough to get started with this:
[ ] Show me only thread that have new comments
I'm assuming that you either consider a new thread to automatically be a new comment as well in the back end, or that you can relatively easily do so. Since the db already "knows" what we've read, you'd be screening us from any threads that have had no activity. The benefit would be to allow setting the "show number of days" up higher to track discussions you are interested in, without having to wade through the many, many threads that have their day or two in the MeFi sun and then go the way of all things.
A simple boolean should be enough to get started with this:
[ ] Show me only thread that have new comments
I'm assuming that you either consider a new thread to automatically be a new comment as well in the back end, or that you can relatively easily do so. Since the db already "knows" what we've read, you'd be screening us from any threads that have had no activity. The benefit would be to allow setting the "show number of days" up higher to track discussions you are interested in, without having to wade through the many, many threads that have their day or two in the MeFi sun and then go the way of all things.
A rambling comment about off topic comments
The death of MetaFilter - A rambling comment about off topic comments.
I'd love if there was some way to preview a comment before posting it.
I'd love if there was some way to preview a comment before posting it. My spelling stinks, and the text area is too small for me to review my post properly.
commenting ponies
Three comments (besides the fact that I love Metafilter):
- Don't count your own replies as new comments
- The new comment count is mysterious. Is that 10 new since the last time I visited the site, clicked on a link (in other words if I stopped reading and came back later), last time I read that particular post, I dunno. I always think I'm missing replies because I read slow. (Multitasking, of courese)
- Preview button for comments too!
Keep up the good work all!
- Don't count your own replies as new comments
- The new comment count is mysterious. Is that 10 new since the last time I visited the site, clicked on a link (in other words if I stopped reading and came back later), last time I read that particular post, I dunno. I always think I'm missing replies because I read slow. (Multitasking, of courese)
- Preview button for comments too!
Keep up the good work all!
how about having the word "new" link to an anchor
After each post, where it says "x comments (x new)," how about having the word "new" link to an anchor of the first new comment on that link's comments page?
Comment permalinks!
New Feature: You can now target comments on MetaFilter by using the permalinks. So, say, if you wanted to say "Winer is crazy sometimes!" on your own site or in a metafilter comment, you can now link directly to that.
Can we has previews?
I am but simple caveman blogger. Your modern HTMl ways are far too complex for me. Back in my pleistocene days, before I was frozen, we had a preview button for comments on blog links so that we could see our text and mark up before it was committed to stone. Might we have the same?