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What neverending ax grinding?
uh, what neverending ax grinding? More inside.
I claim this isle in the name of Asshattery
could we get a flag on isle 42780#957736?
Chatty Cathy
Let's not set any precedents.
What does this add to the discussion?
What does this add to the discussion?
Copying unrelated comments from another site
Someone's bein' creepy! [+]
OK, I was a little bit of a jerk, but the reply was worse!
I grant that my first comment in this thread was a little troll-ish, and I'm sorry about that. I probably contributed a pretty bad atmosphere to the discussion there. But was this really warranted?
Are we twelve?
It seemed like a snark-in-good-fun
It sounds as though this post was meant as a frivolous laugh at all parties involved, which is why the personal swipes sound so out of place. I partially note it because I was about to make a similar FPP, but perhaps should be glad I didn't....
Would this link be against self-link etiquette or policy?
I wanted to create an FPP for this ten second film festival, which I think would be of interest to many MeFites, but I've run into a couple of ethical and logistical conundrums: 1) The festival is being run by a friend of mine, so I suppose I might be a little biased as to this being The Best of The Web. 2) You really have to be in the Twin Cities area to see the screening and win a prize, even though submissions are accepted from anywhere. Any thoughts about this being FPP worthy?
Bevets is abusing his membership
Bevets is abusing his membership. Undeniable evidence included inside.
conspiracy + conspiracy = truth
I want to take issue with this post. The seemingly innocuous way greatgefilte couples the public acknowledgement of a conspiracy another, speculative one is a disingenuous way to lend credibility to a (what is in my opinion) a particularly slanderous myth. [more inside]
we get it, you don't like the pope.
What's to gain from posting a negative comment?
Say you see a FPP, and say it sucks. What's to gain from posting a negative comment? Many comments I see are not only negative, they're downright vicious. If it's a double post, or a self-link, chances are it will be deleted. Furthermore - personally, if I see a post that's been there for a while and there are only a few comments, I'm not going to read the comments, simple as that. I'd bet many of you follow this as well. So why bash a lousy post?
Some of us seem extremely mindful of MetaFilter's integrity. Does it only hurt it further to barrage a poster with bitching? (PS - I'm aware of the fact that this very post could be a repeat, but it was hard to search for this - the ironing would be delicious).
Some of us seem extremely mindful of MetaFilter's integrity. Does it only hurt it further to barrage a poster with bitching? (PS - I'm aware of the fact that this very post could be a repeat, but it was hard to search for this - the ironing would be delicious).
deliberately cryptic commenting is annoying as hell
In the interest of avoiding further derail of the Aryan Justice thread, I am going to accept amberglow's invitation to bugbread and state that deliberately cryptic commenting is annoying as hell and is counterproductive to the idea of communication.
Troll vs. good poster?
Excuse me ignorance for a few moments, but I in all honesty cannot for the life of me understand why bevets is being considered a troll/flamer in this thread about evolution.
Now, I am a full proponent of the Theory of Evolution. However, that said, all bevets is doing is disagreeing with the Theory. Some people like orthogonality decide to actually respond to bevets' ideas. Not to pick on any one user, but then you get bshort who sounds more like a troll than bevets by not even thoughtfully responding to bevets' creationist ideas.
In all honestly, if byver wants to have an open dialogue about this topic, what is the problem? Does that make him a troll if he earnestly wants to discuss the topic, even if you all think he sucks at it because if so, then a whole LOT of users would be trolls with whom the masses just happen to agree with.
*note* I do NOT intend this thread to be a pileon over bevets (enough of that happened in the thread), but rather what makes a troll vs. a good poster since all I see here is a very strong disagreement in ideologies.
Now, I am a full proponent of the Theory of Evolution. However, that said, all bevets is doing is disagreeing with the Theory. Some people like orthogonality decide to actually respond to bevets' ideas. Not to pick on any one user, but then you get bshort who sounds more like a troll than bevets by not even thoughtfully responding to bevets' creationist ideas.
In all honestly, if byver wants to have an open dialogue about this topic, what is the problem? Does that make him a troll if he earnestly wants to discuss the topic, even if you all think he sucks at it because if so, then a whole LOT of users would be trolls with whom the masses just happen to agree with.
*note* I do NOT intend this thread to be a pileon over bevets (enough of that happened in the thread), but rather what makes a troll vs. a good poster since all I see here is a very strong disagreement in ideologies.
Self-link, it seems
hate site link warning
The first link on this thread The Seven Dwarfs of Auschwitz is to a Nazi site, pushing a holocaust denial agenda. Can the FPP be edited to flag this up, so people know what they're clicking on? It turned out that the poster had a good reason for giving that link, but I would have preferred to have had that explanation up front. The lack of explanation led to a derail on the thread. In general, I think it would be courteous to flag up links to neo-nazi sites, so people can make an informed decision about whether to visit them.
How to deal with partisan posts on MeFi.
Metafilter is not Wikipedia. There's no expectation of neutrality here. So instead of telling the poster to get his own blog, why not read the links, then add more links and observations from your own perspective. That's why they call them comments.
Someone died, and it was still funny, apparently.
Death to Reporters! • The Vindication of Eason Jordan! • Pre-emptive strike! • Why do you hate America so much? • Looks like Nicola Calipari's death is another great opportunity for sneering, soulless political point-scoring. Why was the only semi-respectful treatment of the story the only one to get deleted?
Attack on poster history is unwarranted
A number of recent contentious discussions have quickly devolving into attacks on the past history of the individuals under discussion or justifications that break down to “They do it too!”. Would it help improve the tone of discussions to ask posters to consider the direct relevance of their comments on the topic under discussion, rather than firing off ‘unrelated’ repsonses that read like cheap shots or weak justifications? [mi]
I was inconsiderate.
Just want to apologize for the poor wording on my post today linking to this article. My mistake was terribly ill-advised wording in my fpp. Sorry to have offended, and I understand why it was offensive and why the fpp was deleted.
google made me awesome
I know that lots of people love y2karl's posts, but when he damn near admits that his work is courtesy of Google, then we've moved beyond being the "best of the web" and into the realm of "you need your own blog".
If you have to update, please do it in one comment
I really wish ericb would post all of his findings in one message, instead of dribbling them out over several. Apparently he's got amberglow doing it, too. What's the point?
Does he have some asshole pass from Matt?
What freen said.
or, in his own words: Why is dios's continual rude and offensive behavior tolerated? The vast majority of his comments are caustic and intended to be insulting. His behavior is not new and surely not unnoticed. Does he have some asshole pass from Matt?
And stop the "queen" shit too--it's offensive.
or, in his own words: Why is dios's continual rude and offensive behavior tolerated? The vast majority of his comments are caustic and intended to be insulting. His behavior is not new and surely not unnoticed. Does he have some asshole pass from Matt?
And stop the "queen" shit too--it's offensive.
Asshole pass?
Why is nofundy's continual rude and offensive behavior tolerated? The vast majority of his comments are caustic and intended to be insulting. His behavior is not new and surely not unnoticed. Does he have some asshole pass from Matt? If such a thing exists, can I get one too?
1st-degree personal attack
Baseless accusations
Have unsubstantiated smears become common currency at MeFi too now?
"Mozilla not fit for general use"
Does the "Mozilla not fit for general use" FPP count as a self-link? It only calls out a single bug, which the author has commented on several times. For that matter, I don't think a layout bug is usually worthy of a FPP.
WARNING - this link will take you to another page!
When posting a front pager, I understand that other Mefites want to be warned if a linked-to Web site requires a login/password, but we're supposed to warn of cookie placement from a Web site as well? Not being snarky, just being curious.
At least read the post before violating the main rule
If you are going to use MetaFilter to push your web site and agenda, at least read the freakin' post before you post your NSFW childish self links (on your first day as a member no less). Thank you.
Sounds like someone's got some sand in her vagina.
Attention first-time posters
Attention first-time posters: hpsell recently made a hideous front-page post that violated just about every possible rule. Inevitably, he was greeted with a barrage of negative responses: [bad bad bad], "I'm not going to make fun of you because I strongly suspect that you're retarded," and the like. Did he whine, counterattack, or curl up into a ball and hide? No, he said "i didnt mean to ruffle any feathers... ill try to do better with the grammar." [more inside]
Fark fat-bashing fusion
It's farkish and fatty-bashing in one convenient post!
Seriously, what do we hope to accomplish with this?
Seriously, what do we hope to accomplish with this?
This comment is very unnecessary, distracting and long.
This comment is very unnecessary, distracting and long. It also has nothing to do with the posted links. Can it please be removed?
Get it right the first time
Just because there's no good way to get a thread shilling a new piece of free software noticed once it drops off the top of the front page is no reason to make a further thread noting the addition of a uninventive feature that was missed in the original post.
Nor does that fact that KevinSkomsvold saved it by turning it into a discussion about the merits of RSS mitigate my point. IE: What is the best way to do it?
Nor does that fact that KevinSkomsvold saved it by turning it into a discussion about the merits of RSS mitigate my point. IE: What is the best way to do it?
Crafting Good Posts Part XXMCIV: labelling
Crafting Good Posts Part XXMCIV: labelling. Things to note when making a post: [QuickTime] = "this link has quicktime movie content," [NSFW] = "you may want to view this discretely," [NYT] = "this link requires a New York Times registration..."
What else do you wanna know up front? Let's go over it for our neoFites.
What else do you wanna know up front? Let's go over it for our neoFites.
the consensus is: MetaFilter is not a soapbox
I am new. There is a lot of MetaTalk about politics.
Apparently, "The quickest way to get a label you'll never be able to shake here is to engage in political threads."
For a long time, I couldn't figure out why people freaked out so much about mentions of politics, but I've been reading this thread, and I'm almost three-quarters through, finally, and it looks like the consensus is: MetaFilter is not a soapbox, and your primary subject should be links, not opinions.
That's cool with me, I'm just curious if I've got it properly nailed down.
Apparently, "The quickest way to get a label you'll never be able to shake here is to engage in political threads."
For a long time, I couldn't figure out why people freaked out so much about mentions of politics, but I've been reading this thread, and I'm almost three-quarters through, finally, and it looks like the consensus is: MetaFilter is not a soapbox, and your primary subject should be links, not opinions.
That's cool with me, I'm just curious if I've got it properly nailed down.
Stop being jerks, especially outside of politics threads
Consistency in standards, and the lack thereof. Since the election, MeFi has gotten a lot calmer, and a lot more readable. Much of these is surely do to the deletion of highly partisan comments and threads, but it seems like some people aren't getting the message. Snarky FPPs like this provoke obnoxious replies like part 3 of this.
Is there a viable way to confine this crap to the political threads?
Is there a viable way to confine this crap to the political threads?
Let's not be SA
So from molatar to the animal dildos to a couple other sites that have been getting posted, mefi is getting something of a PoE flavor. I realize that's only a couple examples, I've just sort of had a growing impression of this sort of thing over the past couple weeks.
I don't really have an opinion on this, but it seems like the sort of thing people might want to discuss. Is "posting links to funny people so you can laugh at them" a thing Metafilter wants to be doing? If so, might I suggest stealing PoE's prime directive: "never, ever contact the people so linked."
Let's... not be SA. In any way.
I don't really have an opinion on this, but it seems like the sort of thing people might want to discuss. Is "posting links to funny people so you can laugh at them" a thing Metafilter wants to be doing? If so, might I suggest stealing PoE's prime directive: "never, ever contact the people so linked."
Let's... not be SA. In any way.
So-and-so is a Muslim not okay
So-and-so is a Muslim
Ah, I see, so political posts aren't ok, but transparent HATE MOCKERY is. Damn you mr_crash_davis. Damn you to hell.
Ah, I see, so political posts aren't ok, but transparent HATE MOCKERY is. Damn you mr_crash_davis. Damn you to hell.
How not to respond in a thread.
How not to respond in a thread. I don't like callouts, and I'm not calling anyone out. I was inspired by the good discussions in the green and I believe this thread highlights how Metafilter can be improved. In it so far, we have a throwaway irrelevant "I'm an atheist, this does not apply to me" comment, we have a non sequitur comment, an "I agree" without any backup, and a purely reaction provoking comment of whether God has a penis and can take dumps (I do understand the point being made). Basically, we can do better. I'm far from perfect and probably have a lot of throwaway comments to my name -- but could we all try a little harder to think before we comment?
Personal attacks suck
Haven't we been talking about putting a stop to this type of personal attack?
Civility and politics.
Can we please separate political passion from blood lust?
"I'm glad the silly fucker's dead"??
After rereading the snarky original Michael Kelly editorial. I believe I'm glad the silly fucker's dead.
Sorry for the callout, but unless I missed the subtlety of some kind of joke, I think this crosses the line just a little bit.
Our own little Ashcroft.
Our own little Ashcroft. Are threats really appropriate in a place meant for discussion?
religion in threads
Bad Bush thread.
Bush is Hitler. Well, I'm glad that's settled.
The post includes scintillating links to the front page of foxnews.com and to a NY Times editorial. The comments include "you never should have been born", "prayer breakfasts take us closer to forced reeducation camps for gays", (this comment met with lots of approval) "you're an idiot" and "Bush is Hitler"(the phrase "a normal Christian guy on a power trip" is a reference to an earlier comment by skallas that Hitler was just a normal Christian guy on a power trip). There’s nothing redeeming here. Will you delete this please, Matt?
The post includes scintillating links to the front page of foxnews.com and to a NY Times editorial. The comments include "you never should have been born", "prayer breakfasts take us closer to forced reeducation camps for gays", (this comment met with lots of approval) "you're an idiot" and "Bush is Hitler"(the phrase "a normal Christian guy on a power trip" is a reference to an earlier comment by skallas that Hitler was just a normal Christian guy on a power trip). There’s nothing redeeming here. Will you delete this please, Matt?
Sexism is ok in the globalized landscape
So now that this little prostitute has enough money for herself...
so that this little chippie can pretend to be Mother Theresa...
So, is sexism excused when there's a globalization argument to pile on? I just want to make sure.
There's no point getting angry at Faze though.
I strongly disagree.
so that this little chippie can pretend to be Mother Theresa...
So, is sexism excused when there's a globalization argument to pile on? I just want to make sure.
There's no point getting angry at Faze though.
I strongly disagree.
crap FPP, even without the flame war
Sheesh. Forgetting the fact that this is a crap FPP, do we have to have this stupid argument again? I get really tired of reading the uninformed, bigoted opinions of anti-religion types with chips on their shoulders. You are free to not believe in God; I am not bothered by your not-believing. But you not-believing is not evidence of intellectual or moral superiority. It's just a choice you made, a choice I can understand and respect. How about some reciprocation already?
way to go on scaring the new guy
Now that we have all read and agreed with Taz's post, lets put it into practice: User posts first Front-page Post. The Post is great and well-received. New user even explains where he got it from (not that he had to). Everything's great so far so...let's call him out because it appeared in some older comments AND let's accuse him of outright stealing it! Good work!