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YANMXXX question
Curious why people put this in their posts. Is there a legal/ethical issue? Can someone be sued over craigslist because they give you bad advice that you take and you take it and bad things happen because you take bad advice by someone over the internet?
Or is this like the "special snowflake" thing where it's kind of implied that you are not a doctor/lawyer/plumber/special snowflake and that this does happen to be the internet, so buyer beware.
Curious why people put this in their posts. Is there a legal/ethical issue? Can someone be sued over craigslist because they give you bad advice that you take and you take it and bad things happen because you take bad advice by someone over the internet?
Or is this like the "special snowflake" thing where it's kind of implied that you are not a doctor/lawyer/plumber/special snowflake and that this does happen to be the internet, so buyer beware.
People can be sued for anything.
I think this is a disclaimer, basically, "I am not a plumber, so if your toilet explodes don't come crying to me."
This has been hashed out previously with some lawyers and doctor types being pretty adamant that people that answer these questions are opening themselves up for liability, etc.
I see it more like asking the dude in a bar to look at your rash to se whether or not he thinks you should see a doctor.
posted by cjorgensen at 12:02 PM on December 29, 2010
I think this is a disclaimer, basically, "I am not a plumber, so if your toilet explodes don't come crying to me."
This has been hashed out previously with some lawyers and doctor types being pretty adamant that people that answer these questions are opening themselves up for liability, etc.
I see it more like asking the dude in a bar to look at your rash to se whether or not he thinks you should see a doctor.
posted by cjorgensen at 12:02 PM on December 29, 2010
Do we have this in the FAQ yet cause it is beyond having gotten old.
posted by ND¢ at 12:07 PM on December 29, 2010 [8 favorites]
posted by ND¢ at 12:07 PM on December 29, 2010 [8 favorites]
I read it as someone indicating the limit of the knowledge.
When I tell you to eat the sandwich, I'm telling you that from my personal experiences in eating sandwiches left on the counter for 8 hours. However, IANAC (I am not a chef), IANAFSP (I am not a food safety professional).
Still eat the damn sandwich.
posted by 26.2 at 12:07 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
When I tell you to eat the sandwich, I'm telling you that from my personal experiences in eating sandwiches left on the counter for 8 hours. However, IANAC (I am not a chef), IANAFSP (I am not a food safety professional).
Still eat the damn sandwich.
posted by 26.2 at 12:07 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
IANASS
YANASS
WALIAYS
I am not a special snowflake; you are not a special snowflake; we all live in a yellow submarine.
posted by Sidhedevil at 12:09 PM on December 29, 2010 [7 favorites]
YANASS
WALIAYS
I am not a special snowflake; you are not a special snowflake; we all live in a yellow submarine.
posted by Sidhedevil at 12:09 PM on December 29, 2010 [7 favorites]
I'm suing you right now for $20, same as in town, for being such a special snowflake.
posted by nomadicink at 12:12 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by nomadicink at 12:12 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
YANASSE
IKBIATCOSS
I know because I am the Commissioner of Special Snowflakes
posted by Sidhedevil at 12:15 PM on December 29, 2010
IKBIATCOSS
I know because I am the Commissioner of Special Snowflakes
posted by Sidhedevil at 12:15 PM on December 29, 2010
How hard is to just assume that people aren't lawyers/doctors unless they specify otherwise, and even then, they are not YOUR lawyer/doctor?
posted by hermitosis at 12:22 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by hermitosis at 12:22 PM on December 29, 2010
IANAA
By: An Acronym
I Am Not An Acronym. But you'd never know it around here. How rarely do people bother to type me out, me and my brethren. How cavalierly do people toss me around, in medical and legal AskMes alike.
I Am Not An Acronym.
Oh, sure - I am an acronym. But I'm more. So much more. I could love you if you gave me the chance. I can give you advice on that lump on your shoulder, that easement on your nrighbor's property, that spider lurking in your laundry hamper. Just let me.
I Am Not An Acronym.
I Am Your Friend.
IAYF.
Fin.
posted by ORthey at 12:25 PM on December 29, 2010
By: An Acronym
I Am Not An Acronym. But you'd never know it around here. How rarely do people bother to type me out, me and my brethren. How cavalierly do people toss me around, in medical and legal AskMes alike.
I Am Not An Acronym.
Oh, sure - I am an acronym. But I'm more. So much more. I could love you if you gave me the chance. I can give you advice on that lump on your shoulder, that easement on your nrighbor's property, that spider lurking in your laundry hamper. Just let me.
I Am Not An Acronym.
I Am Your Friend.
IAYF.
Fin.
posted by ORthey at 12:25 PM on December 29, 2010
I Am Not An Acronym.
Of course you're not. You're an initialism.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:28 PM on December 29, 2010 [4 favorites]
Of course you're not. You're an initialism.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:28 PM on December 29, 2010 [4 favorites]
I Am Not An Acronym.
Of course you're not. You're an initialism.
"IANAL," on the other hand...
posted by Faint of Butt at 12:31 PM on December 29, 2010
Of course you're not. You're an initialism.
"IANAL," on the other hand...
posted by Faint of Butt at 12:31 PM on December 29, 2010
No, UANAL. However, URANUS.
posted by special-k at 12:40 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by special-k at 12:40 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
URMOM
posted by entropicamericana at 12:44 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by entropicamericana at 12:44 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
Is this the thread where I once again make my joke about how the IANAL is destined to be the first consumer failure from the mind of Steve Jobs?
No? Sorry.
posted by jbickers at 12:53 PM on December 29, 2010
No? Sorry.
posted by jbickers at 12:53 PM on December 29, 2010
Do we have this in the FAQ yet cause it is beyond having gotten old.
Is your moving on finger broken?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:54 PM on December 29, 2010 [6 favorites]
Is your moving on finger broken?
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:54 PM on December 29, 2010 [6 favorites]
Is your moving on finger broken?
Oh snap.
posted by special-k at 12:57 PM on December 29, 2010 [3 favorites]
Oh snap.
posted by special-k at 12:57 PM on December 29, 2010 [3 favorites]
IANAFPOABSATITIAIRTRTPTBAIP
I am not a fighter pilot or a brain surgeon although this is the internet and I reserve the right to pretend to be anything I please.
posted by MuffinMan at 1:05 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
I am not a fighter pilot or a brain surgeon although this is the internet and I reserve the right to pretend to be anything I please.
posted by MuffinMan at 1:05 PM on December 29, 2010 [1 favorite]
IANCTHULHU
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 1:24 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 1:24 PM on December 29, 2010
but IAASS.
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 1:25 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by quonsar II: smock fishpants and the temple of foon at 1:25 PM on December 29, 2010
How hard is to just assume that people aren't lawyers/doctors unless they specify otherwise, and even then, they are not YOUR lawyer/doctor?
For lawyers, it is supposed to help ensure that you are not forging a client relationship, which brings with it certain responsibilities and ethical duties. Merely giving advice to someone can be seen as taking on that person as a client. I am sure the actual relevant ethics rules state this more clearly and in greater detail, but that is the gist.
posted by Falconetti at 1:26 PM on December 29, 2010
For lawyers, it is supposed to help ensure that you are not forging a client relationship, which brings with it certain responsibilities and ethical duties. Merely giving advice to someone can be seen as taking on that person as a client. I am sure the actual relevant ethics rules state this more clearly and in greater detail, but that is the gist.
posted by Falconetti at 1:26 PM on December 29, 2010
TheBones: "YANMXXX"
Wait, so you're not my porn star? Why did you send all those videos if...
posted by l33tpolicywonk at 1:41 PM on December 29, 2010 [3 favorites]
Wait, so you're not my porn star? Why did you send all those videos if...
posted by l33tpolicywonk at 1:41 PM on December 29, 2010 [3 favorites]
YANMXXX
Yeah, the first thing I thought was what question I could answer with "IAAXXX IANYXXX, Use more lube." Because that could be fun.
posted by quin at 1:51 PM on December 29, 2010
Yeah, the first thing I thought was what question I could answer with "IAAXXX IANYXXX, Use more lube." Because that could be fun.
posted by quin at 1:51 PM on December 29, 2010
how the IANAL is destined to be the first consumer failure from the mind of Steve Jobs
I would so buy that.
posted by me & my monkey at 2:31 PM on December 29, 2010
I would so buy that.
posted by me & my monkey at 2:31 PM on December 29, 2010
I am not a plumber [however, I have done quite a bit of plumbing around my house, and this is my off-the-cuff educated guess. It's probably correct, but if contradicted by someone who claims to be a real plumber, go with their answer. I'll stand corrected and happy to have my knowledge upgraded along with you. I won't feel the need to post that in a comment.]
posted by ctmf at 2:46 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by ctmf at 2:46 PM on December 29, 2010
These threads come up every so often, they would be a prime target for some Markov chain action.
posted by Dr Dracator at 2:57 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by Dr Dracator at 2:57 PM on December 29, 2010
I would like it if "I, ANAL" were a porn spinoff of I, Robot, and the action (as it were) took place in a law office.
posted by DrGirlfriend at 3:10 PM on December 29, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by DrGirlfriend at 3:10 PM on December 29, 2010 [3 favorites]
I'm a lawyer qualified in England & Wales, so if I'm answering a question that's within my professional expertise, I'll put "IAAL. IANYL" at the beginning for two reasons:
1. So that the questioner knows that I am answering from the viewpoint of having some actual knowledge and/or experience of the subject matter of the question, rather than the "I'm not a lawyer, but if it was me I'd just keep the money" type of answer; and
2. So that it is clear that I am not providing anything other than general information on the subject, or recounting my own experience, not giving advice of any kind.
IANADNHIPOOTV*
*I am not a doctor, nor have I played one on TV.
posted by essexjan at 4:51 PM on December 29, 2010
1. So that the questioner knows that I am answering from the viewpoint of having some actual knowledge and/or experience of the subject matter of the question, rather than the "I'm not a lawyer, but if it was me I'd just keep the money" type of answer; and
2. So that it is clear that I am not providing anything other than general information on the subject, or recounting my own experience, not giving advice of any kind.
IANADNHIPOOTV*
*I am not a doctor, nor have I played one on TV.
posted by essexjan at 4:51 PM on December 29, 2010
People who are younger than me (and dirt, which was my classmate): do you know that "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV" was a real commercial? IT'S TRUE!
posted by Sidhedevil at 6:17 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by Sidhedevil at 6:17 PM on December 29, 2010
Essexjan- that is perfect, and appreciated. I guess it's too much to assume that if someone doesn't put something like this, then they are not a lawyer, or a doctor, or a porn star- so a IANA (XXX) is in order.
posted by TheBones at 7:06 PM on December 29, 2010
posted by TheBones at 7:06 PM on December 29, 2010
I am a librarian. I am your librarian. I do not like it when you call fucking around on Google "research" but otherwise, we're cool.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:11 PM on December 29, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:11 PM on December 29, 2010 [4 favorites]
jessamyn: "Is your moving on finger broken?"
posted by Rhaomi at 10:34 PM on December 29, 2010 [7 favorites]
The Moving On Finger flags; and, having flug*,*(rhyming "flagged" is hard)
Moves on: nor all thy Repartee nor Smug
Shall lure it back to compose half a line,
Nor all thy Grar elicit but a hug.
posted by Rhaomi at 10:34 PM on December 29, 2010 [7 favorites]
Whenever someone writes YANMD I think "You are the man now dog!"
posted by yeti at 7:57 AM on December 30, 2010
posted by yeti at 7:57 AM on December 30, 2010
You're A Nan Mow Dog?
posted by nebulawindphone at 12:22 PM on December 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by nebulawindphone at 12:22 PM on December 30, 2010 [1 favorite]
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posted by special-k at 12:01 PM on December 29, 2010