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Mea Culpa.
I apologise in advance for my transgression. Methinks I may have gone a bit far...
Is this relationship too close for posting?
There's this site that I visit fairly regularly. The creator of this site creates these cool (IMO) online illustrated one page stories. I think that many folks at MeFi might enjoy the site, but there is (what I perceive as) a problem. One of the sites I write for is one of this guy's front-page links....
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I have no idea what I am clicking on and I don't like it.
Descriptive posting.
Perhaps this is just me, but I find posts crop up fairly frequently on metafilter with little or no indication within the post of what the linked site actually contains. Clicking links on the half-chance they are going to take you somewhere of interest is a little frustrating - I know it makes me a lot less inclined to follow the link at all - and as a result I'm possibly missing out.
Not to mention numerous accessibility issues, isn't it simply bad practice?
Apologies for not linking to any example posts - I'm not feeling at all confrontational today. No apologies if this has been discussed before - it seems to be an issue, and I think therefore worth discussing again.
Perhaps this is just me, but I find posts crop up fairly frequently on metafilter with little or no indication within the post of what the linked site actually contains. Clicking links on the half-chance they are going to take you somewhere of interest is a little frustrating - I know it makes me a lot less inclined to follow the link at all - and as a result I'm possibly missing out.
Not to mention numerous accessibility issues, isn't it simply bad practice?
Apologies for not linking to any example posts - I'm not feeling at all confrontational today. No apologies if this has been discussed before - it seems to be an issue, and I think therefore worth discussing again.
Less is more...
Stop picking on the n00bs
I'd like to suggest that there might be a bit of a danger these days of stripping some potential away from the site. A lot of new users are being called out (or belittled) rather promiscuously for posts or comments that are often no different than what they have been accustomed to seeing from Metafilter elders pre-14k (as well as post-14k). Vigilance is worthy and needed in order to protect the integrity of Metafilter, but I suspect that there is a risk of creating an atmosphere of paranoia in which many promising new members will be afraid to post anything that they are not absolutely certain will not reap condemnation. (more inside...)
What should we do about self-marketers who could enventually plant links on mefi?
yesterday, on./ was reading an interesting discussion about a product when someone accused the poster of Viral Marketing, in effect really trying to grab publicity off of ./ while they're covertly under contract to the company they are posting about.
Today, in a very useful MeFi discussion, someone raised the Same Suspicion.
Whether Octavius is correct or not, I think there's no reason to doubt that firms are cropping up to harness communities and blogs to plant publicity on the net. On its face, it would likely be far more effective advertising than a pop up or TV commercial... Once the corporate heavyweights catch on, it could get quite excessive and sneaky.
But it could seriously undermine a community since to some extent, we'll all start scrutinizing the motives of any given post and poster.
Could well be the beginning of the end (or at least the end of the beginning) of the innocence for MeFi etal... Any ideas on how to contend with this?
Today, in a very useful MeFi discussion, someone raised the Same Suspicion.
Whether Octavius is correct or not, I think there's no reason to doubt that firms are cropping up to harness communities and blogs to plant publicity on the net. On its face, it would likely be far more effective advertising than a pop up or TV commercial... Once the corporate heavyweights catch on, it could get quite excessive and sneaky.
But it could seriously undermine a community since to some extent, we'll all start scrutinizing the motives of any given post and poster.
Could well be the beginning of the end (or at least the end of the beginning) of the innocence for MeFi etal... Any ideas on how to contend with this?
Good warcrimes post destroyed by personal attacks in discussion
I am disturbed by the conversations attacking the original poster in F&M's post on warcrimes (sorry I don't know how to hyperlink without the button.) I found the post well reasoned, free of ideology, and providing important considerations regarding future military action in Iraq. If someone had a legitimate complaint about the post it seems it should have been made here. To denegrate the post, the poster, and those who responded thanking the poster seems juvenial and small minded.
Spellcheck flagging 'MeFi'
Isn't it internally ironic that when you run your post through a spell check, it gets caught on the term "MeFi"?
Just because it's "another Coulter thread"
Hi, Jack. Just because it's "another Coulter thread" doesn't mean raysmj ought to piss all over it with his off-topic opinions on proper journalistic style. How many other threads have been similarly derailed by snarks on the writing style or site design of the linked page?
What the dogmuffins is up with this?
What the dogmuffins is up with this? I think that searching for the phrase "fuckwit" will prove that I've never used it. Is there someway to delete comments like this, which serve no purpose except to be nasty?
How much will we talk about 9-11?
Can the September jitters, already being felt from all sides of the political table, be in any way lessened or avoided?
I really liked that movie -> FPP
Is this thread front page material? [more inside]
Why did you deleted the CD swap thread Matt?
I'm curious. Why did you deleted the CD swap thread Matt?
Eight front page posts in half an hour?
I've largely refrained from joining the chorus asking for some sort of throttle (one post per week, 2/3 posts per week, waiting period for newcomers, etc.), but Jiminy Christmas: Eight front page posts in half an hour? (number one, number eight.) Are you going to implement any of these post-flow-control ideas, Matt, or are we going to become "MetaFilter: A Firehose For The Thirsty"
namecalling in mefi al qaeda/iraq thread
No, dumbass... this isn't a war on weapons of mass destruction... it isn't a war on the fucking "concept" of terrorism, wherever it rears it's ugly metaphorical head... Al Queda is a threat to us. Iraq is a threat to us. Do i have to spell it out for you morons? it's a war on threats to us. motherfucking DUH.
Inexcusable. I could say more, but it would get ugly.
Inexcusable. I could say more, but it would get ugly.
It's really old; is it still a double?
Front Page Posts. Is there a time limit before a topic is reposted? If something was posted a year ago, and you've got something new, or want to explore a different angle, how long should you wait? Or will any repost elicit a thread composed of "repost" and "how about some pancakes?"
Did I do something wrong?
I'm sorry, I'm new here. Did I do something wrong? I realize I derailed the thread from the start (for that I apologize), but somehow I became the poster boy for two warring sides in a flame war riddled with insults and heated emotions. I like to think I tried to maintain a civil discourse at the beginning, unfortunately I went to sleep when it got really nasty. Should I have not posted at all? What went wrong here, I would like to know for future reference.
How do you find inspiration for posts?
Mediareport hinted recently in his Russel Wright thread that items from the media should be no more than starting-points for building an interesting post. Perhaps it might be useful to share research strategies, tactics, tricks and shortcuts for those who enjoy building out of the blue front page posts. That is, those which aren't extracted or glossed from the news media or simply borrowed from existing weblogs.
How do people here go about googling, finding and selecting links? Does the idea for the post come first or do some people still go surfing in the raw, as it were, waiting for something interesting to turn up? And then build on it? Is there life outside Google? Are there any good online guides for direct research on the Web? Does haphazard, serendipitous, anarchic surfing yield worthwhile off-beat results or is it generally a waste of time?
How do people here go about googling, finding and selecting links? Does the idea for the post come first or do some people still go surfing in the raw, as it were, waiting for something interesting to turn up? And then build on it? Is there life outside Google? Are there any good online guides for direct research on the Web? Does haphazard, serendipitous, anarchic surfing yield worthwhile off-beat results or is it generally a waste of time?
Newsfilter's Greatest Hits
So in case you missed the posts linking to well-known news stories in well-known media outlets, there's now a post that collects them all for you. Nothing new here, just collected for your browsing pleasure. Call it MetaNewsFilter. Jeepers.
Could we have a [more inside] feature to encourage people to keep their posts short?
An attempt at a solution to this [more inside]
my ideal of a perfect thread
Someone said that there needed to be positive as well as negative examples of Metafilter Behavior. This comes close to my ideal of a perfect thread.
Anyone want to see my vacation slides?
On initial inspection, this post by y2karl appears to me more suited to his own weblog. For me it just doesn't seem to belong on the front page. It's long winded, with lots of "this" for the links. Yet it seems to work as well..? It seems to highlight a desire for the 'community' to exchange not only ideas and opinions but also experiences and holiday destinations....
Perhaps it's a 'bridge' of a post that signifies a new direction for MeFi?
Perhaps it's a 'bridge' of a post that signifies a new direction for MeFi?
Add visual delimiters between fpps?
On the front page I sometimes mistake a thread with an empty line and then another link in the comment for two separate threads. I don't associate all of the text with a single post because the spacing is the same as it would be for two posts. It's a minor thing and I realize there was more to the comment when I view it, but what about adding a delimiter to make it easier to tell threads apart? Or am I the only one that makes this mistake?
a new kind of selflink
Posting a link to a couple of paragraphs that talk about you is an entirely new subspecies of self link. Join me, and together we can smother it in infancy.
y2karl: informative and interesting
I just wanted to say y2karl has some great posts lately [1, 2 & 3].
I liked them not for the content, but for how he did it.
In order to understand his point I had to read the links. Not only that, the TITLE tags he put in there were wonderfully informative.
I've seen others do this from time to time, I just think it's quite nice.
I like the idea that to fully understand the thread people need to go and read something, learn something to actually make a comment that makes any sense.
After all, we are all here to learn something, are we not?
Anyone have any favorite threads, based on how they were done, not what they talk about?
I liked them not for the content, but for how he did it.
In order to understand his point I had to read the links. Not only that, the TITLE tags he put in there were wonderfully informative.
I've seen others do this from time to time, I just think it's quite nice.
I like the idea that to fully understand the thread people need to go and read something, learn something to actually make a comment that makes any sense.
After all, we are all here to learn something, are we not?
Anyone have any favorite threads, based on how they were done, not what they talk about?
if it's ever appeared anywhere, it can't appear here?
There we go, a day's worth of Slashdot stories for you.
posted by wackybrit
So, is the new rule that if it's ever appeared anywhere, it can't appear here?
posted by wackybrit
So, is the new rule that if it's ever appeared anywhere, it can't appear here?
Writing twice as much stuff for twice as many blogs
For those of you with your own weblogs who also are heavy contributors here: How do you split your "output" between your own joint and Metafilter? Is there so much to say and link that both places get a lot of original stuff? Do you post/talk about the same things both places? Do you only comment in threads here, and save links for your own blog? I'm curious. What brought it to mind was Miguel's prodigous posting here, knowing he's got that crazy-remunerative blog gig (blig) going on over there.
Also, for the first 38 yrs of my life I said "renumerative." ::shrug:: It seemed to make sense.
Also, for the first 38 yrs of my life I said "renumerative." ::shrug:: It seemed to make sense.
non-users posting by proxy: kosher?
I'd like to discuss the appropriateness of allowing non-users to post by proxy, in relation to a conflict here between Medley and myself. [more inside]
What effect does being mentionned on MeFi have, trafficwise?
Inexactly how much, numerically and psychologically, does a link on MetaFilter affect the traffic to the blog or web site referred? Is its effect transient or does it, so to speak, carry on? Also, just how many hits does MetaFilter get nowadays? [After reading stavrosthewonderchicken's interesting remarks on hits, pageviews and other popularity statistics and his comment on owillis's web site about how being linked on "The Mothership" makes traffic soar.]
metafilter stopped pinging weblogs.com
Is metafilter no longer pinging weblogs.com a few times a day? looks like the last time was june 16.
How about a little meat to go with that book?
recent posts not best of web
pop-ups - are they from mefi?
Is it just me, or is everyone else being attacked by pop-ups while trolling around in here?
This post on "The Steakhouse Incident" is really disgusting
Sweet Mother of Chupacabra. Why is this discussion not deleted alltogether?
successful posting of contentious material
Today's PreCrime post by grrarrgh00 is a great example of contentious material presented with balanced text, varied supporting links (with mouseovers!), and a meaty comment to start things on the write foot. Is this a good model given our recent debates over how to present controversial topics?
MetaFilter trademark.
MetaFilter is trademarked! Woo!
One problem.. it's not trademarked by Matt ;-) Randomly stumbled across this during an adventure through the trademark archives. The 'METAFILTER' trademark was filed in 1946, and was last renewed in 1988. It is still 'live'. Watch out, Matt. The 'Metafiltration Company' might be on your back if they take a fancy to this site!
One problem.. it's not trademarked by Matt ;-) Randomly stumbled across this during an adventure through the trademark archives. The 'METAFILTER' trademark was filed in 1946, and was last renewed in 1988. It is still 'live'. Watch out, Matt. The 'Metafiltration Company' might be on your back if they take a fancy to this site!
What constitutes movement?
Your post sucks
I just thought your tired old thread wasn't good enough to comment in, or post relevant information. After all, everyone knows a thread is dead after 4 hours.
C'mon, this just seems inappropriate.
C'mon, this just seems inappropriate.
And yet MetaFilter is a joy to read
Piling on clavdivs; piling on riviera; piling on fold_and_mutilate; piling on stavrosthewonderchicken; piling on rodii; piling on evanizer; piling on rcade; piling on bluetrain; piling and unpiling; back and forth; predictably lashing and then cuddling; the pack mentality rife; the mob rule always subjacent... This is what MetaTalk looks like after two weeks away.
And yet... and yet MetaFilter is a joy to read. I'd wished personalities weren't made into issues at the cost of issues themselves - issues are, after all, what MetaFilter does best - but then it struck me that perhaps MetaTalk is fulfilling its role as a sort of blotter-paper, soaking up all the displaced aggressiveness and natural human attrition and rivalry. And keeping MetaFilter clean, so to speak. Is this perverse or healthy in a leeching, purging sort of way? So - can this be talked about without thinking it's about somebody or another? Has MetaTalk been efficiently used so that MetaFilter can be MetaFilter? Is it being dumbed down and fouled up? And does it matter if the result over in the blue seems so successful?
And yet... and yet MetaFilter is a joy to read. I'd wished personalities weren't made into issues at the cost of issues themselves - issues are, after all, what MetaFilter does best - but then it struck me that perhaps MetaTalk is fulfilling its role as a sort of blotter-paper, soaking up all the displaced aggressiveness and natural human attrition and rivalry. And keeping MetaFilter clean, so to speak. Is this perverse or healthy in a leeching, purging sort of way? So - can this be talked about without thinking it's about somebody or another? Has MetaTalk been efficiently used so that MetaFilter can be MetaFilter? Is it being dumbed down and fouled up? And does it matter if the result over in the blue seems so successful?
Domain Hijacking and Metafilter
It turns out that MacSlash.com was no more "hijacked" than succaland.com was "stolen" (despite what it says in the MetaFilter sideblog). Like k10k.com and poetrysoc.com, they let their domain expire and it was snapped up. Leslie Harpold says that hoopla.com and smug.com hadn't expired, and Verisign has not contradicted her, but true domain hijackings don't seem all that common, do they?
Deletion: ask and ye shall receive
Is it appropriate to ask that clavdiv's moronic, homophobic, 4-post dump on this thread be deleted?
Tired of the prison rape discussion
The next time someone posts with glee about a criminal being subjected to violent penile colonization, turning the discussion immediately into a referendum on the subject of prison rape (#1 #2), I hope that person has to spend quality pound-in-the-ass time in MetaTalk as rodii's bitch.
Guidelines for MeFi vs Sportsfilter
With World Cup fanaticism one week away (for some of us ever present), what are guidelines for Metafilter posts (eg vs Sportsfilter posts) ? Thanks.
Trolling: secret agreement, or an excuse to beat a dead horse?
See now, here is my question, with all sincerity, does MeFi continue to allow such troll posting because MeFi (semi-secretly) agrees with the poster, or just because MeFi wants another excuse to beat a dead horse?
Bad article, bad link, bad post.
Woo-hoo! A new thread points to Google! Even better, the poster forgot the "http:/ /" part, and the site doesn't even reflect his point!
My question is this: was it appropriate for me to comment on the thread, ask a pertinent question, provide a couple relevant links, and then immediately come here and slag the thread?
My question is this: was it appropriate for me to comment on the thread, ask a pertinent question, provide a couple relevant links, and then immediately come here and slag the thread?
Chatfilter posts are bad posts.
Evolt.org
Strange, I read the post about evolt.org first, and it got juxtaposed againts mathowie's comments next, and I am reminded how much I have enjoyed MF over the year I've known it, and still incredulous that Mr. Haughey would be willing to offer so much for so little for so long. So what does one do when a silly little site no one cares about becomes something everybody loves but you (when you are the one that lives with it)?
MeFi & MeTa thread pages 404 when logged in
IfI try to read any thread on MetaFilter or MetaTalk and I'm logged in, I get 404, yo. If I'm not logged in, I can read the threads. I've tried logging out and logging back in, and I deleted my MetaCookies.
Us declares itself above the law.
Us declares itself above the law.
Other than one or two people here and there talking about the topic at hand, this thread was basically a shouting match and trolling session. Is this the level of debate that now passes for inteligent from the MetaFilter community?
Other than one or two people here and there talking about the topic at hand, this thread was basically a shouting match and trolling session. Is this the level of debate that now passes for inteligent from the MetaFilter community?
so, um, if you don't like metafilter, don't participate.
so, um, if you don't like metafilter, don't participate.