working together for the common good January 2, 2007 9:12 AM Subscribe
Ironically, for the off-topic stuff from this post on people from different beliefs working together for common good.
I knew there would be snarkiness, but it seems no one even got to the pertinent links, which involve tolerance of others for the greater good. Perhaps I should have posted those first. But who knows if even that would have done any better. In any event, vent away here!
posted by The Deej at 9:14 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by The Deej at 9:14 AM on January 2, 2007
See, that would require the evangelical atheists here to--gasp!--broaden their horizons somewhat to allow for the possibility that religion isn't 1) inherently evil, 2) something for deluded mental defectives.
I imagine this will happen shortly after GWB is impeached.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:16 AM on January 2, 2007
I imagine this will happen shortly after GWB is impeached.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:16 AM on January 2, 2007
Discussions of religion and related matters rarely go well here, for a variety of reasons.
posted by jonmc at 9:16 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by jonmc at 9:16 AM on January 2, 2007
I'd also like to point out that I unequivocally agree that religion has no place in government, public policy, or in schools (except as a component of sociology & culture classes, that sort of thing).
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:23 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:23 AM on January 2, 2007
God exists and is responsible for all the good things in the world.
As for all the diverse evils in our world... well, I blame the MFEAB.
:D
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:24 AM on January 2, 2007
As for all the diverse evils in our world... well, I blame the MFEAB.
:D
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:24 AM on January 2, 2007
13-
The value of the post isn't determined by the lowest common denominator of intolerant snarkers of any stripe. That speaks to the value of their communication.
I have a tendency to think too highly of humanity I guess. But I thought at least the snark would come after actually reading the post and links, and might even have something to do with the content.
The content of the post is valuable and inspiring. And I am sure many readers will get something out of it. Those people may not leave any comments. The silent majority, perhaps.
Anyone can look at my history of (few) posts and many comments and see that I do not promote intolerance. So, we shouldn't let intolerant people of any stripe scare us away from posting valuable information.
posted by The Deej at 9:26 AM on January 2, 2007
The value of the post isn't determined by the lowest common denominator of intolerant snarkers of any stripe. That speaks to the value of their communication.
I have a tendency to think too highly of humanity I guess. But I thought at least the snark would come after actually reading the post and links, and might even have something to do with the content.
The content of the post is valuable and inspiring. And I am sure many readers will get something out of it. Those people may not leave any comments. The silent majority, perhaps.
Anyone can look at my history of (few) posts and many comments and see that I do not promote intolerance. So, we shouldn't let intolerant people of any stripe scare us away from posting valuable information.
posted by The Deej at 9:26 AM on January 2, 2007
You can't claim that a post is "about" any one thing. People take away from a post what they want to. In this case, opening with a line like "A Christian man is weak compared to a Muslim man." is not a good way to lead in to a post about religious tolerance and cooperation. As I told you over IM, I don't know what you thought would happen, that seemed like a pretty par for the course religious thread on MetaFilter. I find it very hard to believe that you couldn't have thought up some better wording if you really wanted people to read and think about your links and not just fight.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:27 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:27 AM on January 2, 2007
Ok, let's just fight.
*slips on brass knucks, puts up dukes*
posted by jonmc at 9:28 AM on January 2, 2007
*slips on brass knucks, puts up dukes*
posted by jonmc at 9:28 AM on January 2, 2007
The silent majority, perhaps.
don't kid yourself.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:29 AM on January 2, 2007
don't kid yourself.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 9:29 AM on January 2, 2007
And yes, I have been on MeFi long enough to know how religion posts go. But I have also seen some great posts and some insightful comments. Again, the value of the post is in the post, not in the comments. Both posts and comments speak for themselves. That's my opinion anyway.
posted by The Deej at 9:30 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by The Deej at 9:30 AM on January 2, 2007
*looks smugly at The Deej as jessamyn orders him to the corner, continues to play with legos*
posted by frecklefaerie at 9:35 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by frecklefaerie at 9:35 AM on January 2, 2007
God exists and is responsible for all the good things in the world.
I'd refine that to: some of us believe that something, most commonly called God, exists, and is responsible for all the things in the world.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:35 AM on January 2, 2007
I'd refine that to: some of us believe that something, most commonly called God, exists, and is responsible for all the things in the world.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 9:35 AM on January 2, 2007
As far as I can tell, dirtynumbangelboy's "Atheist Brigade" is represented in that thread by exactly one dumbass comment. In contrast, we have no less than six comments from dnab seeing angry atheists behind every bush.
Yep, the thread was a derailed mess (and I played a bit part in the derail, myself), but dnab is the reason why.
posted by gurple at 9:36 AM on January 2, 2007
Yep, the thread was a derailed mess (and I played a bit part in the derail, myself), but dnab is the reason why.
posted by gurple at 9:36 AM on January 2, 2007
"... Move beyond any attachment to names."
Every war
and every conflict between human beings has happened because
of some disagreement about
names. It's such an unnecessary foolishness, because just
beyond the arguing there's a long
table of companionship, set and waiting for us to sit down.
What is praised is one, so the praise is one too,
many jugs being poured
into a huge basin. All religions, all this singing,
one song.
The differences are just illusion and vanity. Sunlight
looks slightly different
on this wall than it does on that wall and a lot different
on this other one, but
it is still one light. We have borrowed these clothes, these
time-and-space personalities,
from a light, and when we praise, we pour them back in.
mevlana jelaluddin rumi - 13th century
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:38 AM on January 2, 2007 [3 favorites]
Every war
and every conflict between human beings has happened because
of some disagreement about
names. It's such an unnecessary foolishness, because just
beyond the arguing there's a long
table of companionship, set and waiting for us to sit down.
What is praised is one, so the praise is one too,
many jugs being poured
into a huge basin. All religions, all this singing,
one song.
The differences are just illusion and vanity. Sunlight
looks slightly different
on this wall than it does on that wall and a lot different
on this other one, but
it is still one light. We have borrowed these clothes, these
time-and-space personalities,
from a light, and when we praise, we pour them back in.
mevlana jelaluddin rumi - 13th century
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:38 AM on January 2, 2007 [3 favorites]
Waste not your Hour, nor in the vain pursuit
Of This and That endeavour and dispute;
Better be jocund with the fruitful Grape
Than sadden after none, or bitter, Fruit.
--Omar Khayyam
posted by gurple at 9:40 AM on January 2, 2007
Of This and That endeavour and dispute;
Better be jocund with the fruitful Grape
Than sadden after none, or bitter, Fruit.
--Omar Khayyam
posted by gurple at 9:40 AM on January 2, 2007
dnab I don't preface my beliefs with disclaimers to protect the sensitive mores of the feeble-minded.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:40 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:40 AM on January 2, 2007
Zod is dead.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:41 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:41 AM on January 2, 2007
The wording of the post was carefully thought out. I wanted to show that there is intolerance on both sides (I had many more sides, and many more links... but, you know... filter) and then show that in spite of that, there are many people you never hear about rising above intolerance to do good.
I certainly learned many things I didn't know from the links I posted. I posted what I thought was the most interesting quote, from the most recent article. I kept the paragraph intentionally short so that hopefully even the quickest scanning would not just see the "weak Christian" quote, but also St. Francis' take on the Crusades, and that there was hope.
I stand by the post. Many more people read the posts than ever post a comment. If MeFi's traffic was measured by comments posted, it would not even be sustainable. Heck, I read MeFi posts for at least a year before registering.
If others think the post is not MeFi worthy they can flag away. I won't have any more comments about it.
Thanks for all of your input. :)
posted by The Deej at 9:41 AM on January 2, 2007
I certainly learned many things I didn't know from the links I posted. I posted what I thought was the most interesting quote, from the most recent article. I kept the paragraph intentionally short so that hopefully even the quickest scanning would not just see the "weak Christian" quote, but also St. Francis' take on the Crusades, and that there was hope.
I stand by the post. Many more people read the posts than ever post a comment. If MeFi's traffic was measured by comments posted, it would not even be sustainable. Heck, I read MeFi posts for at least a year before registering.
If others think the post is not MeFi worthy they can flag away. I won't have any more comments about it.
Thanks for all of your input. :)
posted by The Deej at 9:41 AM on January 2, 2007
/invokes silent majority, vanishes in puff of meta-dust
posted by prostyle at 9:45 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by prostyle at 9:45 AM on January 2, 2007
also that was kind of a jokey-comment. sorry.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:47 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Baby_Balrog at 9:47 AM on January 2, 2007
The Deej, I have no bad or good opinion about the value of your post either way, but the "community" (as such) places little value in the original poster trying to guide the discussion in a particular direction. In my experience, you posts your post, buys the ticket and takes the ride.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:47 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:47 AM on January 2, 2007
It's January 2nd. You expected insight on January 2nd? Aren't most people still hungover and stinging from the ineviable "what the hell are you doing with your life" conversations with the family over the holidays? Not to mention looking at the credit card bills and regretting spur-of-the-moment purchases. Insight? Today? Come now.
posted by Hildegarde at 9:51 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Hildegarde at 9:51 AM on January 2, 2007
Aren't most people still hungover and stinging from the ineviable "what the hell are you doing with your life" conversations with the family over the holidays?
I'm hungover everyday and my family already knows I'm doing nothing with my life.
Now are we gonna fight or what?
*snarls, draws switchblade*
posted by jonmc at 9:53 AM on January 2, 2007
I'm hungover everyday and my family already knows I'm doing nothing with my life.
Now are we gonna fight or what?
*snarls, draws switchblade*
posted by jonmc at 9:53 AM on January 2, 2007
For we are born at all adventure: and we shall be hereafter as though we had never been: for the breath in our nostrils is as smoke, and a little spark in the moving of our heart.
posted by Abiezer at 9:56 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Abiezer at 9:56 AM on January 2, 2007
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." B. Franklin
Hangovers are proof that God is a bit of a dick.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:59 AM on January 2, 2007
Hangovers are proof that God is a bit of a dick.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:59 AM on January 2, 2007
Dnab makes me want to join the evangelical aetheists brigade. That's not good, dnab. Your stridency, panic and paranoia are winning no converts and making no points.
posted by loquacious at 10:06 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by loquacious at 10:06 AM on January 2, 2007
So, TheDeej, how would you be likely to get critical feedback about your post? You won't take it from the discussion, you won't take it from Jessamyn, you won't take it from folks in MeTa. You invoke a silent majority in your support, and silent they are, both in your thread and in this one.
It appears that what you mean to say is, "Fuck you very much, MetaFilter, and a happy tolling New Year!"
posted by OmieWise at 10:12 AM on January 2, 2007
It appears that what you mean to say is, "Fuck you very much, MetaFilter, and a happy tolling New Year!"
posted by OmieWise at 10:12 AM on January 2, 2007
it's my opinion that the post was worthy of metafilter
unfortunately, it doesn't seem as though metafilter was worthy of the post
posted by pyramid termite at 10:16 AM on January 2, 2007
unfortunately, it doesn't seem as though metafilter was worthy of the post
posted by pyramid termite at 10:16 AM on January 2, 2007
Out beyond ideas
Of wrongdoing and rightdoing
There is a field
I'll meet you there.
~Hafiz
posted by moonbird at 10:29 AM on January 2, 2007
Of wrongdoing and rightdoing
There is a field
I'll meet you there.
~Hafiz
posted by moonbird at 10:29 AM on January 2, 2007
dirtylongnameguy: everyone really is out to get you.
posted by Mister_A at 10:31 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Mister_A at 10:31 AM on January 2, 2007
Assuming that people read the links before posting comments is... well, optimistic.
posted by occhiblu at 10:35 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by occhiblu at 10:35 AM on January 2, 2007
So, TheDeej, how would you be likely to get critical feedback about your post? You won't take it from the discussion, you won't take it from Jessamyn, you won't take it from folks in MeTa. You invoke a silent majority in your support, and silent they are, both in your thread and in this one.
It appears that what you mean to say is, "Fuck you very much, MetaFilter, and a happy tolling New Year!"
posted by OmieWise
I hate being baited, and yet am such a sucker to make sure I am not misunderstood.
My point in removng myself from the ongoing commenting was because I would rather the energy and attention go to the post, not that I am above anyone. Plus, I am hungry and leaving to eat lunch.
Also I don't suggest the silent majority SUPPORT ME in any way. The silent majority READ THE POST without commenting. That was my only point.
The point was NOT to remove myself from criticism, bring it on. I'll especially take any more criticism from Pyramid Termite, if it's along the same lines as what he left. :) Also, a quick click on my profile will show an e-mail address, a website with links to my home address and phone number, and another e-mail address, and heck even a picture and short biography. So, if I am hiding out, I am a terrible failure at it.
And what do you mean "wouldn't take it from Jessamyn?" How am I supposed to show that I have "taken it"? I said to her in the IM and in this thread that perhaps I should have lead with the "unity" links. But I am still not convinced that certain people would not have derailed ANY thread that had ANY mention of ANY religion.
So again, criticise all ya want.
But really, there is nothing else to say. Read the post.
(The above contains 0% malice.)
posted by The Deej at 10:36 AM on January 2, 2007
It appears that what you mean to say is, "Fuck you very much, MetaFilter, and a happy tolling New Year!"
posted by OmieWise
I hate being baited, and yet am such a sucker to make sure I am not misunderstood.
My point in removng myself from the ongoing commenting was because I would rather the energy and attention go to the post, not that I am above anyone. Plus, I am hungry and leaving to eat lunch.
Also I don't suggest the silent majority SUPPORT ME in any way. The silent majority READ THE POST without commenting. That was my only point.
The point was NOT to remove myself from criticism, bring it on. I'll especially take any more criticism from Pyramid Termite, if it's along the same lines as what he left. :) Also, a quick click on my profile will show an e-mail address, a website with links to my home address and phone number, and another e-mail address, and heck even a picture and short biography. So, if I am hiding out, I am a terrible failure at it.
And what do you mean "wouldn't take it from Jessamyn?" How am I supposed to show that I have "taken it"? I said to her in the IM and in this thread that perhaps I should have lead with the "unity" links. But I am still not convinced that certain people would not have derailed ANY thread that had ANY mention of ANY religion.
So again, criticise all ya want.
But really, there is nothing else to say. Read the post.
(The above contains 0% malice.)
posted by The Deej at 10:36 AM on January 2, 2007
Mister_A: "dirtylongnameguy: everyone really is out to get you."
I've already got one.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:37 AM on January 2, 2007
I've already got one.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:37 AM on January 2, 2007
I don't understand what was supposed to be so highbrow about the post. Were people really unaware that there exist individuals and organizations who don't support religious violence? I guess links to specific groups were sorta interesting, but the idea that this is introducing Mefites to some revolutionary new angle on the human condition seems a bit much.
It's a bit like that fistula post, where the OP kept popping up to remind us that he'd provided some sorta groundbreaking epiphany of horror for our edification. Ho hum hysteria.
posted by thirteenkiller at 10:47 AM on January 2, 2007
It's a bit like that fistula post, where the OP kept popping up to remind us that he'd provided some sorta groundbreaking epiphany of horror for our edification. Ho hum hysteria.
posted by thirteenkiller at 10:47 AM on January 2, 2007
But, you know, I've put up some bombs too. It happens. We move on.
posted by thirteenkiller at 10:50 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by thirteenkiller at 10:50 AM on January 2, 2007
The Deej writes "And what do you mean 'wouldn't take it from Jessamyn?' How am I supposed to show that I have 'taken it'?"
The Deej writes "The wording of the post was carefully thought out[...]I stand by the post."
I'm not trying to bait you, I'm trying to understand how you understand the nature of criticism. You posted something, the post didn't work out. You received a bunch of feedback in several different venues that part of the problem was the nature of the post (both the subject matter and the presentation of that subject matter). Your response to all of that implicit and explicit commentary on the post was to suggest that you see nothing that you should have changed (I am, fortunately, not privy to your private communications with JCW).
I don't think you're a bad guy or anything, nor do I have any malice toward you, but you seem to be a bit disingenuous about this. You say you've been around long enough to know how these types of posts go, and yet you posted one with extreme prejudice, and now you're acting as if you're surprised when it gets derailed. Further, you've stated that you stand by the borked post, which suggests that you did get the response you were looking for. Something doesn't add up to "Naive poster surprised by MetaFilter cynicism."
posted by OmieWise at 10:57 AM on January 2, 2007
The Deej writes "The wording of the post was carefully thought out[...]I stand by the post."
I'm not trying to bait you, I'm trying to understand how you understand the nature of criticism. You posted something, the post didn't work out. You received a bunch of feedback in several different venues that part of the problem was the nature of the post (both the subject matter and the presentation of that subject matter). Your response to all of that implicit and explicit commentary on the post was to suggest that you see nothing that you should have changed (I am, fortunately, not privy to your private communications with JCW).
I don't think you're a bad guy or anything, nor do I have any malice toward you, but you seem to be a bit disingenuous about this. You say you've been around long enough to know how these types of posts go, and yet you posted one with extreme prejudice, and now you're acting as if you're surprised when it gets derailed. Further, you've stated that you stand by the borked post, which suggests that you did get the response you were looking for. Something doesn't add up to "Naive poster surprised by MetaFilter cynicism."
posted by OmieWise at 10:57 AM on January 2, 2007
IS THIS THE LATEST INSTALLMENT OF 'ALL HUMANITY VS. DNAB'?????
posted by quonsar at 11:12 AM on January 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by quonsar at 11:12 AM on January 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
OmieWise: You are trying to bait him, and you are doing it with consummate skill and puissance. It seems you've baited many, many times before, my friend... it's as though you were some sort of "head baiter" or "chief baiter".
posted by Mister_A at 11:18 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Mister_A at 11:18 AM on January 2, 2007
(1) It was a shitty post about a topic which has should be avoided until someone can come up with a new and unique masterful post about.
(2) Deep fried cortex nuts (which incidentally and disturbingly made me think of calf fries at Reata and get hungry) would make a good post.
posted by dios at 11:26 AM on January 2, 2007
(2) Deep fried cortex nuts (which incidentally and disturbingly made me think of calf fries at Reata and get hungry) would make a good post.
posted by dios at 11:26 AM on January 2, 2007
Somebody in my office is playing Whitney Huston. "And I-ee-eye... will only love you-ee-oo..." is boring into my brain. If there were a God, He would kill me now. Or the song would never go away. He wouldn't simply be indifferent. QEMutherfuckinD, cortex nuts are better baked.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:30 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:30 AM on January 2, 2007
Lost an "o" up there, somewhere. Must have fallen through the crack. Ironically.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:33 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:33 AM on January 2, 2007
Flo, Dolly Parton's original of that song is utterly wonderful.
posted by jonmc at 11:37 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by jonmc at 11:37 AM on January 2, 2007
Surely, you mean 'udderly'.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 11:40 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 11:40 AM on January 2, 2007
I like Dolly. I could see that working.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:42 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:42 AM on January 2, 2007
Speaking of country singers with huge tits, I went to a concert this weekend and one of the headlining acts covered the yodeling masterpiece "Rolling Stone from Texas" by the Pavarotti of the Plains, Big Daddy Don Walser.
posted by dios at 11:45 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by dios at 11:45 AM on January 2, 2007
Hey can we get back to attacking johnnylongname and trading cortex-nut recipes? I recommend searing them in a light oil, like grapeseed oil. Beware the low flash point though.
posted by Mister_A at 11:46 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by Mister_A at 11:46 AM on January 2, 2007
Deep fried cortex nuts (which incidentally and disturbingly made me think of calf fries at Reata and get hungry) would make a good post.
dios, you are so off the xmas card list.
posted by cortex at 11:50 AM on January 2, 2007
dios, you are so off the xmas card list.
posted by cortex at 11:50 AM on January 2, 2007
But perhaps you could still send him a festive snack assortment.
posted by jonmc at 11:50 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by jonmc at 11:50 AM on January 2, 2007
Salty.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:52 AM on January 2, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:52 AM on January 2, 2007
"dios, you are so off the xmas card list."
I think you want the emphasis here instead:
"dios, you are so off the xmas card list."
Otherwise, I sound like a crazy person when I read your comment out loud in public, as I do with all metatalk comments.
posted by Kwine at 11:57 AM on January 2, 2007
I think you want the emphasis here instead:
"dios, you are so off the xmas card list."
Otherwise, I sound like a crazy person when I read your comment out loud in public, as I do with all metatalk comments.
posted by Kwine at 11:57 AM on January 2, 2007
Oh no I just soiled my pants!
(you do read the bold things more loudly, right?)
posted by thirteenkiller at 12:02 PM on January 2, 2007
(you do read the bold things more loudly, right?)
posted by thirteenkiller at 12:02 PM on January 2, 2007
Actually, the bold ones I act out, as realistically as possible. So, thanks. Thank you so much.
posted by Kwine at 12:08 PM on January 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Kwine at 12:08 PM on January 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
What jonmc said.
Dolly's version is like having a lovely intimate conversation with someone you care about, with all the emotional highs and lows that such conversations entail.
Whitney's version is like a having a scary lady outside your house screaming at you through a megaphone, and you're wondering where the cops are, and why there's sticky stuff running out your ears as you huddle under an overturned couch. Mind you, she's screaming through that megaphone in key, but that's cold comfort after you've witnessed your own dog drown himself in the toilet rather than endure the aural agony.
So, in summation: this cortex, he has nuts?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 12:08 PM on January 2, 2007
Dolly's version is like having a lovely intimate conversation with someone you care about, with all the emotional highs and lows that such conversations entail.
Whitney's version is like a having a scary lady outside your house screaming at you through a megaphone, and you're wondering where the cops are, and why there's sticky stuff running out your ears as you huddle under an overturned couch. Mind you, she's screaming through that megaphone in key, but that's cold comfort after you've witnessed your own dog drown himself in the toilet rather than endure the aural agony.
So, in summation: this cortex, he has nuts?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 12:08 PM on January 2, 2007
Hey can we get back to attacking johnnylongname and trading cortex-nut recipes?
I thought this is where we can talk about man-tits on a yodeler.
posted by dios at 12:12 PM on January 2, 2007
I thought this is where we can talk about man-tits on a yodeler.
posted by dios at 12:12 PM on January 2, 2007
Whitney's version is like a having a scary lady outside your house screaming at you through a megaphone, and you're wondering where the cops are,
what you mean 'like' kemosabe?
posted by jonmc at 12:12 PM on January 2, 2007
what you mean 'like' kemosabe?
posted by jonmc at 12:12 PM on January 2, 2007
Hold on. I don't even understand this sentence.
"Ironically, for the off-topic stuff from this post on people from different beliefs working together for common good."
There's no sentence there. What does this mean? I'm not trying to be snarky, though maybe I'm being dense. I'm trying to parse this but can't, though obviously many others have done so without problem. What do you mean by this fragment, Deej? Seriously.
posted by jdroth at 12:13 PM on January 2, 2007
"Ironically, for the off-topic stuff from this post on people from different beliefs working together for common good."
There's no sentence there. What does this mean? I'm not trying to be snarky, though maybe I'm being dense. I'm trying to parse this but can't, though obviously many others have done so without problem. What do you mean by this fragment, Deej? Seriously.
posted by jdroth at 12:13 PM on January 2, 2007
I think you want the emphasis here instead
Debatable. Yours is definitely a more recongizable classic Valley reading, but I've been watching a lot of Buffy lately and I think my "off" is a Whedonism born of that. You can practically see Cordelia's eyebrows spike when she barks the word out.
posted by cortex at 12:14 PM on January 2, 2007
Debatable. Yours is definitely a more recongizable classic Valley reading, but I've been watching a lot of Buffy lately and I think my "off" is a Whedonism born of that. You can practically see Cordelia's eyebrows spike when she barks the word out.
posted by cortex at 12:14 PM on January 2, 2007
hitler.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 12:14 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 12:14 PM on January 2, 2007
jdroth, I think it suppose to be read like this:
"Ironically, [this post is] for the off-topic stuff from [my] post on people from different beliefs working together for common good [and it is ironic because my post was about getting along but the people in the thread weren't getting along or something like that I'm not really sure because I have a poor filter at what constitutes a good and well constructed post that pleases the silent majority]."
I think.
posted by dios at 12:20 PM on January 2, 2007
"Ironically, [this post is] for the off-topic stuff from [my] post on people from different beliefs working together for common good [and it is ironic because my post was about getting along but the people in the thread weren't getting along or something like that I'm not really sure because I have a poor filter at what constitutes a good and well constructed post that pleases the silent majority]."
I think.
posted by dios at 12:20 PM on January 2, 2007
I think it was supposed to be, "[This Metatalk post is,] ironically, for the off-topic stuff from this post on people from different beliefs working together for common good [which is ironic because people in the thread about coming together and working harmoniously despite differences are sniping at each other.]"
posted by occhiblu at 12:23 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by occhiblu at 12:23 PM on January 2, 2007
OK, enough you two. This is starting to seem like that scene in Take The Money & Run where Woody Allen botches a bank robbery because he misspells 'gun,' on the note.
posted by jonmc at 12:25 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by jonmc at 12:25 PM on January 2, 2007
I like the dios interpretation, where the original fragment becomes a bizarre run-on sentence. So dios gets my vote.
posted by cgc373 at 12:25 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by cgc373 at 12:25 PM on January 2, 2007
Dios gets points off for not hyphenating "well-constructed," but I still like his version better, too.
posted by occhiblu at 12:27 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by occhiblu at 12:27 PM on January 2, 2007
IS THIS THE LATEST INSTALLMENT OF 'ALL HUMANITY VS. DNAB'?????
Quonsar has grasped the essence, here.
And oh, how the star seems to love his role; I'm sure we can all look forward to many, many reprise performances.
posted by jamjam at 12:28 PM on January 2, 2007
Quonsar has grasped the essence, here.
And oh, how the star seems to love his role; I'm sure we can all look forward to many, many reprise performances.
posted by jamjam at 12:28 PM on January 2, 2007
hitler.
"Who ruined Charlie Chaplin's moustache among other things, Alex!"
posted by jonmc at 12:36 PM on January 2, 2007
"Who ruined Charlie Chaplin's moustache among other things, Alex!"
posted by jonmc at 12:36 PM on January 2, 2007
Georgia Hale crushed it occasionally.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:39 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:39 PM on January 2, 2007
I have an erection in my pants with your name on it. How did that happen?
posted by econous at 12:48 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by econous at 12:48 PM on January 2, 2007
econous, check that erection for gills. It might be a fish.
posted by jonmc at 12:50 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by jonmc at 12:50 PM on January 2, 2007
Being confused with a homoeopathist is an attack on my identity. I'm a damn atheist! One may be rational, the other aint.
If it talked like a fish, and walked like fish, then maybe it'd be a fish. But it smells like an erection.
posted by econous at 1:05 PM on January 2, 2007
If it talked like a fish, and walked like fish, then maybe it'd be a fish. But it smells like an erection.
posted by econous at 1:05 PM on January 2, 2007
*huff*puff*
Am I late for the fight?
*snarls, draws switchblade*
posted by jonmc at 5:53 PM GMT on January 2
Isn't that just like a wop? Brings a knife to a gun fight...
posted by slimepuppy at 1:18 PM on January 2, 2007
Am I late for the fight?
*snarls, draws switchblade*
posted by jonmc at 5:53 PM GMT on January 2
Isn't that just like a wop? Brings a knife to a gun fight...
posted by slimepuppy at 1:18 PM on January 2, 2007
And oh, how the star seems to love his role; I'm sure we can all look forward to many, many reprise performances.
[insert message about sex and travel]
Man. Some of you people really do have nothing better to do than goad others, don't you?
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 1:30 PM on January 2, 2007
[insert message about sex and travel]
Man. Some of you people really do have nothing better to do than goad others, don't you?
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 1:30 PM on January 2, 2007
Isn't that just like a wop? Brings a knife to a gun fight...
Well, I was drunk. Isn't that just like a mick?
posted by jonmc at 1:33 PM on January 2, 2007
Well, I was drunk. Isn't that just like a mick?
posted by jonmc at 1:33 PM on January 2, 2007
just like a prayer, no choice your voice can take me there.
posted by Kwine at 1:45 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by Kwine at 1:45 PM on January 2, 2007
I give a crap, Burhanistan, because I am sick and bloody tired of being treated like a delusional imbecile--as all theists are here--by the more rabid atheists. If you are so fucking superior, atheists, then why must you show it by continually putting the rest of us down?
That being said, the rabid theists piss me off just as much.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 2:03 PM on January 2, 2007
That being said, the rabid theists piss me off just as much.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 2:03 PM on January 2, 2007
Hi, member of the silent majority here, now guess what I think?
Correct answer wins a trip to Thailand with me, Pete, Kate, and their dear dear friends at the Daily Mail.
Wait, I just realised I clicked on the wrong link, nevermind.
By the way, may I suggest a slightly more respectable source for reading about the situation of Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem - start here and follow links to other stories like this. Compare and contrast treatment of same subject, and if you're lucky enough to be unaware of the kind of publication we're talking about, you'll realise why the Mail would do better to stick to celebrity gossip.
posted by pleeker at 2:13 PM on January 2, 2007
Correct answer wins a trip to Thailand with me, Pete, Kate, and their dear dear friends at the Daily Mail.
Wait, I just realised I clicked on the wrong link, nevermind.
By the way, may I suggest a slightly more respectable source for reading about the situation of Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem - start here and follow links to other stories like this. Compare and contrast treatment of same subject, and if you're lucky enough to be unaware of the kind of publication we're talking about, you'll realise why the Mail would do better to stick to celebrity gossip.
posted by pleeker at 2:13 PM on January 2, 2007
I am beginning to find TheDeej intensely annoying - almost as much as nerdydumbnarcissicismboy.
posted by adamgreenfield at 2:15 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by adamgreenfield at 2:15 PM on January 2, 2007
I like dirtynumbangelboy, but I too am beginning to find TheDeej intensely annoying. Dude, it's just a MeFi post. Listen to the public or don't, try harder next time or don't, but hok mir nit kayn chainik.
posted by languagehat at 3:02 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by languagehat at 3:02 PM on January 2, 2007
I didn't read any of this -- just wanted to note that between the first flameout and now, I've been reading it as dirty numb bagel boy. Wow, do I feel stupid, right now.
posted by Devils Rancher at 3:05 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by Devils Rancher at 3:05 PM on January 2, 2007
On the other hand, Devils Rancher, that would explain why people keep trying to schmeer him...
/just in it for the pun
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:08 PM on January 2, 2007
/just in it for the pun
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:08 PM on January 2, 2007
"I am sick and bloody tired of being treated like a delusional imbecile"
For the record, I'm treating you like the whiny ass titty baby that you are. I don't think jesus likes you acting like a crybaby if you are speaking up for him. I like delusional imbeciles myself; there's money to be made from them.
posted by 2sheets at 3:28 PM on January 2, 2007
For the record, I'm treating you like the whiny ass titty baby that you are. I don't think jesus likes you acting like a crybaby if you are speaking up for him. I like delusional imbeciles myself; there's money to be made from them.
posted by 2sheets at 3:28 PM on January 2, 2007
Discussions of religion and related matters rarely go well here, for a variety of reasons.
I disagree, at least with the 'rarely' part. Some of the most interesting discussions I've ever read on the internet, about anything, have been here, about religion, when people were willing to discuss rather than just score points (and when the ranting kooks were ignored).
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:02 PM on January 2, 2007
I disagree, at least with the 'rarely' part. Some of the most interesting discussions I've ever read on the internet, about anything, have been here, about religion, when people were willing to discuss rather than just score points (and when the ranting kooks were ignored).
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:02 PM on January 2, 2007
I'm trying to understand how you understand the nature of criticism. You posted something, the post didn't work out.
In any thread with religious topics, there are going to be snarks, that's expected. All I had issue with was dnab turning it into a thing about the "metafilter athiests" even after others tried to gently dissuade him from it. Once it was "about metafilter" it should come here. I was not trying to "guide the discussion" in any way besides avoiding it becoming MeFi vs. dnab.
Numerous people have enjoyed the post and links, and have said so, so that's good.
For those of you who find me annoying... well, stand in line I guess, and welcome to MeFi. :)
posted by The Deej at 4:18 PM on January 2, 2007
In any thread with religious topics, there are going to be snarks, that's expected. All I had issue with was dnab turning it into a thing about the "metafilter athiests" even after others tried to gently dissuade him from it. Once it was "about metafilter" it should come here. I was not trying to "guide the discussion" in any way besides avoiding it becoming MeFi vs. dnab.
Numerous people have enjoyed the post and links, and have said so, so that's good.
For those of you who find me annoying... well, stand in line I guess, and welcome to MeFi. :)
posted by The Deej at 4:18 PM on January 2, 2007
OmieWise: You are trying to bait him, and you are doing it with consummate skill and puissance. It seems you've baited many, many times before, my friend... it's as though you were some sort of "head baiter" or "chief baiter".
A Master Baiter, if you will.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 5:13 PM on January 2, 2007
A Master Baiter, if you will.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 5:13 PM on January 2, 2007
Perhaps you should have gotten a more noble response from people, but I for one would be perfectly happy if I never heard a word about religions again, particularly monotheistic ones.
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 5:50 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by lupus_yonderboy at 5:50 PM on January 2, 2007
And ... Citrus got baited! Ba daaaaaaa!!!!!
You win a drink - \_/
posted by The Deej at 6:03 PM on January 2, 2007
You win a drink - \_/
posted by The Deej at 6:03 PM on January 2, 2007
So you admit to posting something you wouldn't care to read yourself?
posted by adamgreenfield at 6:56 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by adamgreenfield at 6:56 PM on January 2, 2007
Man. Some of you people really do have nothing better to do than goad others, don't you?
-derail dnab
HA! Now THAT is priceless.
posted by eparchos at 7:35 PM on January 2, 2007
-derail dnab
HA! Now THAT is priceless.
posted by eparchos at 7:35 PM on January 2, 2007
I didn't read any of this -- just wanted to note that between the first flameout and now, I've been reading it as dirty numb bagel boy. Wow, do I feel stupid, right now.
Well, if it makes you feel better, you're not alone. I actually had to scroll up upon reading your comment in order to figure out what the hell it was if it wasn't "dirty numb bagel boy".
posted by vorfeed at 7:38 PM on January 2, 2007
Well, if it makes you feel better, you're not alone. I actually had to scroll up upon reading your comment in order to figure out what the hell it was if it wasn't "dirty numb bagel boy".
posted by vorfeed at 7:38 PM on January 2, 2007
Wash yourself up and get us some bagels, boy!
posted by brain_drain at 8:49 PM on January 2, 2007
posted by brain_drain at 8:49 PM on January 2, 2007
I figure dnab must just really like being pissed off. Because he has given every idiot on earth who disagrees with his beliefs the power to make him angry. And even if one idiot were to be persuaded by the vehemence of his rhetoric, another idiot would come along to return him to his preferred emotional state.
posted by ottereroticist at 10:05 PM on January 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by ottereroticist at 10:05 PM on January 2, 2007 [1 favorite]
Hi, member of the silent majority here...
Not anymore, putz!
... now guess what I think?
Doesn't matter now! One of us! One of us!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:41 PM on January 2, 2007
Not anymore, putz!
... now guess what I think?
Doesn't matter now! One of us! One of us!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:41 PM on January 2, 2007
:: writes "gaytheist" in Darryl's Personal Lexicon for 2007 ::
posted by The Deej at 5:01 AM on January 3, 2007
posted by The Deej at 5:01 AM on January 3, 2007
Seriously, it's so wonderfully descriptive, retains meaning when concatenated like that, and hilariously rhymes with it's antonym. I just can't get over myself this morning.
posted by blasdelf at 7:21 AM on January 3, 2007
posted by blasdelf at 7:21 AM on January 3, 2007
Actually, I'd wager that "gaytheist" reads very poorly as "gay theist" out of context. It doesn't really retain the proper meaning at all, man.
posted by cortex at 8:06 AM on January 3, 2007
posted by cortex at 8:06 AM on January 3, 2007
That's what makes it art: we can interpret it as we see fit. Please, don't ruin it for blasdelf; let him be full of himself for a while.
posted by The Deej at 8:56 AM on January 3, 2007
posted by The Deej at 8:56 AM on January 3, 2007
Wow I'm glad I came back to this thread - funniest in months. But do please stop making fun of dnab's moniker. It's really mean-spirited.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 5:50 PM on January 3, 2007
posted by Baby_Balrog at 5:50 PM on January 3, 2007
Baby_Balrog, I hope everyone is as charitable as I am in refraining from making fun of usernames on MeFi, but I fear for your sake that they may not be. (And I only halfway made fun of signal once as a would-be eponysterical joke, and I apologized, because the joke didn't come off at all.)
posted by cgc373 at 6:02 PM on January 3, 2007
posted by cgc373 at 6:02 PM on January 3, 2007
That's why I avoid posts about neuroscience, actually.
posted by cortex at 6:08 PM on January 3, 2007
posted by cortex at 6:08 PM on January 3, 2007
But do please stop making fun of dnab's moniker. It's really mean-spirited.
yeah, you hear that, spitball?
posted by pyramid termite at 8:54 PM on January 3, 2007
yeah, you hear that, spitball?
posted by pyramid termite at 8:54 PM on January 3, 2007
yes, i know. baby_balrog. profoundly silly. i was puerile in my youth, and perhaps the day has come for me to shed this unbecoming tolkien reference.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 12:02 PM on January 4, 2007
posted by Baby_Balrog at 12:02 PM on January 4, 2007
Wait, so it's not a Street Fighter II reference? I had all along been imaging a violent analogue to Muppet Babies.
posted by cortex at 12:04 PM on January 4, 2007
posted by cortex at 12:04 PM on January 4, 2007
In retrospect, I can recall at least three seperate occasions where engaging another user in argument has led to them making fun of my nickname.
/sighs, begins sewing googly eyes on sockpuppet.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 12:04 PM on January 4, 2007
/sighs, begins sewing googly eyes on sockpuppet.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 12:04 PM on January 4, 2007
where engaging another user in argument has led to them making fun of my nickname.
That's when you declare victory and lay claim to their anus as your own.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 12:26 PM on January 4, 2007
That's when you declare victory and lay claim to their anus as your own.
posted by and hosted from Uranus at 12:26 PM on January 4, 2007
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