How to count favorites. August 6, 2012 5:13 PM Subscribe
FAQ: "There is an upper limit of 100 favorites per day". What's a day?
Just curious. I'm going favorite-crazy in the Curiosity thread, and I've reached my limit -- twice today! I had thought we would get 100 favorites allocated each day, but now it's looking more like each new favorite is checked over the total given over the last 24 hour moving window. Which is it?
Just curious. I'm going favorite-crazy in the Curiosity thread, and I've reached my limit -- twice today! I had thought we would get 100 favorites allocated each day, but now it's looking more like each new favorite is checked over the total given over the last 24 hour moving window. Which is it?
Rolling 24 hours. Oh hi pb, the source I was citing.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:16 PM on August 6, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:16 PM on August 6, 2012 [4 favorites]
Woah there, turbo.
According to this previous thread, it's a rolling 24 hour period.
posted by carsonb at 5:17 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
According to this previous thread, it's a rolling 24 hour period.
posted by carsonb at 5:17 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
bah.
posted by carsonb at 5:17 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by carsonb at 5:17 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
I'm assuming my Kerri Strug joke didn't get more favorites because everyone ran out.
posted by andoatnp at 5:21 PM on August 6, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by andoatnp at 5:21 PM on August 6, 2012 [2 favorites]
But what is a day on Mars?
posted by The Whelk at 5:26 PM on August 6, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 5:26 PM on August 6, 2012 [4 favorites]
Sorry I missed that earlier AskMe; I only looked in the FAQ.
Thanks for the response, pb. I tried to favorite it, but, well, yeah.
posted by benito.strauss at 5:29 PM on August 6, 2012 [7 favorites]
Thanks for the response, pb. I tried to favorite it, but, well, yeah.
posted by benito.strauss at 5:29 PM on August 6, 2012 [7 favorites]
Mars ain't the kind of place to favorite your kids.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:31 PM on August 6, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:31 PM on August 6, 2012 [5 favorites]
I'm enthralled by the Mars landing but am puzzled by that thread being so big. This is not a criticism in any way, I'm just Curious. What is it that you've run out of favorites for? What thousand comments are to be made less than 24 hours after launch beyond individual expressions of "wow"? We're not a community of astrophysicists with inside baseball to discuss. If I had tried to guess I would have said it would be 100 comments, 150 tops. What are y'all on about?
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 5:35 PM on August 6, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 5:35 PM on August 6, 2012 [2 favorites]
To celebrate the mars landing, though, it's been temporarily changed to every 24.6229 hours (1 mars day).
posted by SpacemanStix at 5:37 PM on August 6, 2012 [6 favorites]
posted by SpacemanStix at 5:37 PM on August 6, 2012 [6 favorites]
We're not a community of astrophysicists with inside baseball to discuss.
No, but several of us are Martians.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:39 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
No, but several of us are Martians.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:39 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
I'm enthralled by the Mars landing but am puzzled by that thread being so big.
Pretty sure it was the livebloggy aspect of it. Most of the time if someone makes a "Hey important thing is going to happen soon, let's watch..." we'll axe it and tell people to post when there's some there there. In this case, the post was decent and it wasn't going to be a trainwrecky thing [i.e. not some "let's see if the crazy bill passes/fails" situation] and we talked and decided to leave it up. That sort of post (see also: many of the Game of Thrones posts) tends to get a lot of rapid comments as opposed to other sorts. That's my best guess anyhow, I wasn't really working so I just watched it on the TV and missed all the online buzz til today.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:43 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Pretty sure it was the livebloggy aspect of it. Most of the time if someone makes a "Hey important thing is going to happen soon, let's watch..." we'll axe it and tell people to post when there's some there there. In this case, the post was decent and it wasn't going to be a trainwrecky thing [i.e. not some "let's see if the crazy bill passes/fails" situation] and we talked and decided to leave it up. That sort of post (see also: many of the Game of Thrones posts) tends to get a lot of rapid comments as opposed to other sorts. That's my best guess anyhow, I wasn't really working so I just watched it on the TV and missed all the online buzz til today.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:43 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Ah, cool. Yes, I overlooked the liveblog angle.
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 5:48 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 5:48 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Neptune is coming.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:51 PM on August 6, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:51 PM on August 6, 2012 [4 favorites]
Rolling 24 hours. Same as in town.
posted by terrapin at 6:08 PM on August 6, 2012 [6 favorites]
posted by terrapin at 6:08 PM on August 6, 2012 [6 favorites]
Also I had photos of Mefites freaking out cause SPACE
posted by The Whelk at 6:12 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 6:12 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
I think in honor of the Mars landing, a "day" on MetaFilter should be 24h 37m 22.663s.
posted by charmcityblues at 6:15 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by charmcityblues at 6:15 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
A day is how long it takes the Earth to turn 361 degrees.
posted by aubilenon at 6:41 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by aubilenon at 6:41 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Mars needs favourites.
posted by arcticseal at 6:50 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by arcticseal at 6:50 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
jessamyn certainly identified my situation. Sometimes posts become more of a conversation, and in those cases I "abuse" favorites to say "yes, I agree with you."
Also, OMG SPACE!
posted by benito.strauss at 6:59 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Also, OMG SPACE!
posted by benito.strauss at 6:59 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
I was following the post live, and I really thought I was going to hit my favorite limit at one point. I didn't, but I feel like I was dangerously close. I mean, 800+ post about LANDING ON MARS = *squee* I LOVE EVERYTHING.
Seriously though, thanks Mods for keeping the post up. I really had a fantastic time watching the Curiosity landing with my fellow Mefites :)
posted by littlesq at 7:10 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
Seriously though, thanks Mods for keeping the post up. I really had a fantastic time watching the Curiosity landing with my fellow Mefites :)
posted by littlesq at 7:10 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
What's a day?
That'd be 69583989.2 tehloki minutes.
posted by special-k at 7:57 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
That'd be 69583989.2 tehloki minutes.
posted by special-k at 7:57 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
Oh, and while we're on the subject, I was wondering if that post put any noticeable stress or load on the MeFi servers. It seemed like the "X new posts" alerts were getting batched up and maybe delayed a little, but it's pretty subjective and hard to say.
posted by benito.strauss at 8:16 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by benito.strauss at 8:16 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Mars barred.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:58 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:58 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
But what is a day on Mars?
A day? That's nothing!
It takes at least six days to do the Red Planet properly.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:29 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
A day? That's nothing!
It takes at least six days to do the Red Planet properly.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 9:29 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Whoa there, turbo.
posted by shakespeherian at 9:40 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by shakespeherian at 9:40 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
Yeah, it was sort of liveblogging a completely positive event that everyone could enjoy, unlike many similar posts that occur during disasters or crisis events. And there was also the masterful Introductory FPP by ddbeck that showed everyone exactly what was going to happen and why it was significant. Both fpps enhanced each other.
posted by Kevin Street at 10:08 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Kevin Street at 10:08 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
There's a few things which MetaFilter liveblogs well. I still have a lot of fondness for the 2011 Eurovision contest post(s) which allowed us watching it live to chatter about it in real time. This Curiosity Landing post felt much the same way to me.
I know it isn't something to be allowed for everything, but there are certain things which it works well for, even in the context of MetaFilter (which isn't really a lifeblogging platform).
I thank and applaud Team Mod for letting such things happen from time to time. It makes the place feel even more like a community, which I think is positive in every aspect.
posted by hippybear at 10:19 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
I know it isn't something to be allowed for everything, but there are certain things which it works well for, even in the context of MetaFilter (which isn't really a lifeblogging platform).
I thank and applaud Team Mod for letting such things happen from time to time. It makes the place feel even more like a community, which I think is positive in every aspect.
posted by hippybear at 10:19 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
Whoa there, turbo.
Take a breather, nitro.
It's "Woah".
posted by carsonb at 10:25 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
Take a breather, nitro.
It's "Woah".
posted by carsonb at 10:25 PM on August 6, 2012 [3 favorites]
Where does 'Woah there, turbo' come from? Google just gives me some Mario YouTubes.
posted by unliteral at 10:35 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by unliteral at 10:35 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
I think of the Simpsons..."Woah there tubby, we ain't on the moon yet!'
posted by iamkimiam at 11:26 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by iamkimiam at 11:26 PM on August 6, 2012 [1 favorite]
It's "Woah".
Whoa or death.
WHOA OR DEATH!
posted by Jofus at 12:57 AM on August 7, 2012 [13 favorites]
Whoa or death.
WHOA OR DEATH!
posted by Jofus at 12:57 AM on August 7, 2012 [13 favorites]
Apropos of nothing in particular, this comment definitely deserves a few more favorites if anybody has spares.
posted by flabdablet at 1:27 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by flabdablet at 1:27 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
If you're giving 100 favourites a day you're far too easily pleased.
posted by Decani at 1:59 AM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Decani at 1:59 AM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
iamkimiam: "I think of the Simpsons..."Woah there tubby, we ain't on the moon yet!"
I think of American Gladiators. So does carsonb, apparently.
posted by Grither at 5:38 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
I think of American Gladiators. So does carsonb, apparently.
posted by Grither at 5:38 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Woah is trying to giddyup but whoa is still way ahead.
What's going on with giddyup/giddyap starting in about 1930? Lots of cowboy movies? Louis L'Amour books?
posted by rtha at 5:51 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
What's going on with giddyup/giddyap starting in about 1930? Lots of cowboy movies? Louis L'Amour books?
posted by rtha at 5:51 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Put me in the "whoa" camp. "Woah" just looks wrong, like "wierd."
posted by desjardins at 6:28 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by desjardins at 6:28 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Whoa is still more common in British English by a lot, though. Although the British corpus lacks the dramatic leap the American one has in the 1930s.
posted by rtha at 7:09 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by rtha at 7:09 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Woah vs whoa - it's a British thing.
I enjoyed that. "I cling to my 'being right' memories with the tenacity of a starving octopus."
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:14 AM on August 7, 2012 [5 favorites]
I enjoyed that. "I cling to my 'being right' memories with the tenacity of a starving octopus."
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:14 AM on August 7, 2012 [5 favorites]
It's a period of time in which the planet Earth makes a full rotation about its axis (plus or minus 7.9 seconds), but that's not important right now.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 7:35 AM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 7:35 AM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
"Woah vs whoa"
It's Whoa. No matter your dialect.
posted by Eideteker at 7:45 AM on August 7, 2012 [3 favorites]
It's Whoa. No matter your dialect.
posted by Eideteker at 7:45 AM on August 7, 2012 [3 favorites]
OI!
"Our world hangs like a magnificent jewel in the vastness of space. Every one of us is a part of that jewel. A facet of that jewel. And in the perspective of infinity, our differences are infinitesimal."
-Fred Rogers
posted by clavdivs at 8:02 AM on August 7, 2012 [7 favorites]
"Our world hangs like a magnificent jewel in the vastness of space. Every one of us is a part of that jewel. A facet of that jewel. And in the perspective of infinity, our differences are infinitesimal."
-Fred Rogers
posted by clavdivs at 8:02 AM on August 7, 2012 [7 favorites]
Whoa is the sound you make when you want something (i.e. a horse, a conversation, an ill-advised action, etc.) to pause for a moment.
Woah is the sound Tintin's dog Snowy makes.
posted by Aquaman at 8:29 AM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
Woah is the sound Tintin's dog Snowy makes.
posted by Aquaman at 8:29 AM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
Woah is the sound Tintin's dog Snowy makes.
In the English editions I'm used to, it's woah, or wooah, but it varies according to language. Eddie Izzard does a bit on it. I had assumed that "woah" was the typical French onomatopoeia for barking, but the quite extensive Cross-linquistic onomatopoeias wikipedia article suggests that it's ouaf ouaf, or wouf wouf. Wikipedia might be wrong, or it could be a Belgian French/Walloon idiom.
posted by zamboni at 9:24 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
In the English editions I'm used to, it's woah, or wooah, but it varies according to language. Eddie Izzard does a bit on it. I had assumed that "woah" was the typical French onomatopoeia for barking, but the quite extensive Cross-linquistic onomatopoeias wikipedia article suggests that it's ouaf ouaf, or wouf wouf. Wikipedia might be wrong, or it could be a Belgian French/Walloon idiom.
posted by zamboni at 9:24 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
laconic skeuomorph, if you thought that thread got a lot of comments in a hurry, just wait until the Nibiru thread.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:33 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:33 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Whoa. Of course, in Britain we all get our footman to shout it. A mannered person doesn't raise one's voice unless one is at the races.
posted by arcticseal at 10:17 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by arcticseal at 10:17 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
iamkimiam: "I think of the Simpsons..."Woah there tubby, we ain't on the moon yet!'"
But that one's actually "Slow down tubby! You're not on the moon yet."
In case you ever want to say it to your boyfriend.
That goes over well, by the way.
(Just kidding - we used to say that to each other all the time in jest -- which is how I know that. Yes, I'm a Simpsons quote pedant and a big time pie eater, lock up your sons and daughters.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 11:35 AM on August 7, 2012 [3 favorites]
But that one's actually "Slow down tubby! You're not on the moon yet."
In case you ever want to say it to your boyfriend.
That goes over well, by the way.
(Just kidding - we used to say that to each other all the time in jest -- which is how I know that. Yes, I'm a Simpsons quote pedant and a big time pie eater, lock up your sons and daughters.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 11:35 AM on August 7, 2012 [3 favorites]
Your goldamn-ed PREscrpitivisms, teh lots of youse!
posted by carsonb at 11:47 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by carsonb at 11:47 AM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
It's "Woah".
Might be pronounced that way by Southies, but not out here in the rest of the world.
posted by Celsius1414 at 12:07 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Might be pronounced that way by Southies, but not out here in the rest of the world.
posted by Celsius1414 at 12:07 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Whoa is what Keanu says.
And what Keanu says, goes.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 1:26 PM on August 7, 2012 [4 favorites]
And what Keanu says, goes.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 1:26 PM on August 7, 2012 [4 favorites]
Woah is what Keanu says.
posted by maryr at 2:44 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by maryr at 2:44 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
Woe unto us all.
posted by maryr at 2:44 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by maryr at 2:44 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
24 hours, SAIT.
No one else made that joke yet? We're slipping.
posted by Curious Artificer at 2:57 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
No one else made that joke yet? We're slipping.
posted by Curious Artificer at 2:57 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
When someone says woah, for some reason I think of Full House. Whoa is right.
posted by Night_owl at 3:44 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Night_owl at 3:44 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Right. What's a cubit?
posted by not_on_display at 4:23 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by not_on_display at 4:23 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
Night_owl: "When someone says woah, for some reason I think of Full House. Whoa is right."
Probably because you are confusing late 80s/early 90s John Stamos and Joey Lawrence.
Which means your brain might have been replaced by the Trapper Keeper I kept hidden under my bed.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:50 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Probably because you are confusing late 80s/early 90s John Stamos and Joey Lawrence.
Which means your brain might have been replaced by the Trapper Keeper I kept hidden under my bed.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:50 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
if you thought that thread got a lot of comments in a hurry, just wait until the Nibiru thread.
And Mitt's VP announcement!
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 5:48 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
And Mitt's VP announcement!
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 5:48 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
*whimpers*
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:55 PM on August 7, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:55 PM on August 7, 2012 [5 favorites]
* hides *
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:16 PM on August 7, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 6:16 PM on August 7, 2012 [5 favorites]
Wimps. Besides, what can people say about Bachmann that they haven't already covered?
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 6:31 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 6:31 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
I'm most looking forward to the concern trolling.
posted by maxwelton at 6:57 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by maxwelton at 6:57 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
I may just go hide in a cave.
posted by arcticseal at 8:25 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by arcticseal at 8:25 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
100 really is too low. It should really be at least 250.
posted by furiousxgeorge at 9:04 PM on August 7, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by furiousxgeorge at 9:04 PM on August 7, 2012 [3 favorites]
I had assumed that "woah" was the typical French onomatopoeia for barking
I'm not really one for travel, so on the one occasion I visited Europe for a work project I was both surprised and amused to find that German cows really do speak with a German accent. If the cows here made the same noise as the cows there, I'm quite sure we would also transcribe it as "muh".
posted by flabdablet at 9:20 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
I'm not really one for travel, so on the one occasion I visited Europe for a work project I was both surprised and amused to find that German cows really do speak with a German accent. If the cows here made the same noise as the cows there, I'm quite sure we would also transcribe it as "muh".
posted by flabdablet at 9:20 PM on August 7, 2012 [2 favorites]
A mannered person doesn't raise one's voice unless one is at the races.
Nor does a mannered person change the subject of his sentences around willy-nilly.
posted by kenko at 9:54 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Nor does a mannered person change the subject of his sentences around willy-nilly.
posted by kenko at 9:54 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
Kind of rude of you to point that out. I shall have my footman berate you.
posted by arcticseal at 10:01 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by arcticseal at 10:01 PM on August 7, 2012 [1 favorite]
But what did the German cows say????
posted by iamkimiam at 12:19 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by iamkimiam at 12:19 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
Zhaozhou answered the young monk: "mü."
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:22 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:22 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
mr_crash_davis: "laconic skeuomorph, if you thought that thread got a lot of comments in a hurry, just wait until the Nibiru thread."
I was going to post this. Seeing it here already, I was like, "Whoa!"
posted by Splunge at 5:23 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
I was going to post this. Seeing it here already, I was like, "Whoa!"
posted by Splunge at 5:23 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
what did the German cows say????
Imagine Ahhhnold going "moo".
posted by flabdablet at 5:32 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
Imagine Ahhhnold going "moo".
posted by flabdablet at 5:32 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
Wouldn't those be Austrian cows?
posted by maryr at 7:42 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by maryr at 7:42 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
I suppose they could have flown north for the winter.
posted by flabdablet at 7:52 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by flabdablet at 7:52 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
Metatalk: Cow-tipping German bovine.
posted by clavdivs at 8:26 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by clavdivs at 8:26 AM on August 8, 2012 [1 favorite]
furiousxgeorge: "100 really is too low. It should really be at least 250."
Agreed. Quite often I read several days worth of posts at one time and when I do that there always seems to be several really good threads and I inevitably run out of favourites. /sigh
posted by deborah at 2:16 PM on August 8, 2012 [3 favorites]
Agreed. Quite often I read several days worth of posts at one time and when I do that there always seems to be several really good threads and I inevitably run out of favourites. /sigh
posted by deborah at 2:16 PM on August 8, 2012 [3 favorites]
I thought it was a 4 corner simultaneous same earth rotation.
posted by cmoj at 7:13 AM on August 9, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by cmoj at 7:13 AM on August 9, 2012 [1 favorite]
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