Project Feedback on AskMe March 21, 2006 12:57 PM Subscribe
Would it be apropriate to post a project, then request feedback on said project on ask? Nothing spesific, I'm just wondering.
You should be on Letterman with that act. Seriously.
posted by Smart Dalek at 1:05 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by Smart Dalek at 1:05 PM on March 21, 2006
But jess summed it up more elequently.
posted by Smart Dalek at 1:06 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by Smart Dalek at 1:06 PM on March 21, 2006
Can you just put an email link on the project for people to send feedback?
posted by blue_beetle at 1:37 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by blue_beetle at 1:37 PM on March 21, 2006
I'm having difficulty seeing the reason for posting the request to ask, instead of just asking for feedback on the projects link? is it the larger number of eyeballs that read ask? I can see that idea coming from a place of simply wanting varied feedback (as opposed to pagehits) but it cuts awfully close to my mind.
posted by shmegegge at 1:53 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by shmegegge at 1:53 PM on March 21, 2006
I always thought it was weird that mefi projects didn't allow comments.
posted by Saucy Intruder at 1:55 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by Saucy Intruder at 1:55 PM on March 21, 2006
That the project has been posted on Projects would in no way justify its being asked about on AskMe; from there, I think it'd be the same situation as any project not posted on Projects.
posted by cortex at 2:10 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by cortex at 2:10 PM on March 21, 2006
I think you should do it, delmoi. Someone will call you out on MeTa, a pile-on ensues, someone call out dios within your call out and then you can flame out in glorious, um, flames.
posted by mullacc at 2:19 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by mullacc at 2:19 PM on March 21, 2006
dios eats babies. Discuss.
posted by loquacious at 2:22 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by loquacious at 2:22 PM on March 21, 2006
It's okay - they're free-range babies.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 2:26 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 2:26 PM on March 21, 2006
free-range babies = liberal babies. dios eats liberals.
posted by mullacc at 2:35 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by mullacc at 2:35 PM on March 21, 2006
Comments. on. Projects.
I still haven't seen a satisfying explanation of why there aren't any.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:17 PM on March 21, 2006
I still haven't seen a satisfying explanation of why there aren't any.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:17 PM on March 21, 2006
Is there a reason? I can tell you I only check it out about once a month because it's so unsatisfying without any feedback.
posted by visual mechanic at 6:41 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by visual mechanic at 6:41 PM on March 21, 2006
Put a feedback form on your site, and link to it in your projects post. Bada-bing, you're done.
posted by kirkaracha at 7:22 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by kirkaracha at 7:22 PM on March 21, 2006
Yeah, but I wanna bitch about his project over here where the cool kids hang out.
posted by nebulawindphone at 7:24 PM on March 21, 2006
posted by nebulawindphone at 7:24 PM on March 21, 2006
Bada-bing, you're done.
Yes, certainly there are ways to solicit feedback on a Project that might not involve comments here. That's trivial.
What I'm asking is not 'how', it's a thoughtful justification for 'why'.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:07 PM on March 21, 2006
Yes, certainly there are ways to solicit feedback on a Project that might not involve comments here. That's trivial.
What I'm asking is not 'how', it's a thoughtful justification for 'why'.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:07 PM on March 21, 2006
Comments. on. Projects.
I still haven't seen a satisfying explanation of why there aren't any.
Because your project sucks, you ignorant bastard.
Not because of any flaw in the project itself, but because I think you may have slighted me four years ago in that FPP about Chysanthemums, and plus I think you may be soft on the Iraq War.
And know what, you bastard ignoramus, all my pals think it's sucks, and they're gonna be by to tell you.
And because the admins will be so overwhelmed with trying to protect sucky ignorant project making bastards like you from THE TRUTH, either some of THE TRUTH will get through, or they'll close down comments on your sucky project, and everyone'll be like: "Oh, that project must suck, look there's no comments and you can't comment anyway."
Besides, the admins think your project sucks, anyway. I know this for a fact, but it would hurt the community if I explained how I knew. And I love the community too much to do that.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:22 PM on March 21, 2006
I still haven't seen a satisfying explanation of why there aren't any.
Because your project sucks, you ignorant bastard.
Not because of any flaw in the project itself, but because I think you may have slighted me four years ago in that FPP about Chysanthemums, and plus I think you may be soft on the Iraq War.
And know what, you bastard ignoramus, all my pals think it's sucks, and they're gonna be by to tell you.
And because the admins will be so overwhelmed with trying to protect sucky ignorant project making bastards like you from THE TRUTH, either some of THE TRUTH will get through, or they'll close down comments on your sucky project, and everyone'll be like: "Oh, that project must suck, look there's no comments and you can't comment anyway."
Besides, the admins think your project sucks, anyway. I know this for a fact, but it would hurt the community if I explained how I knew. And I love the community too much to do that.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:22 PM on March 21, 2006
Yes, well, that's all very amusing. It's what I suggested a couple of days back: that the extra moderation load (because there's more and more of the kind of stupid shit you parody above) is unwelcome.
But until Matt says that that's part of the calculus, it's just speculation.
I know, too, that Matt's said that he envisioned that something would be posted to Projects, get voted on, if it's good enough, maybe it'll get posted to the Blue.
But given recent information we've seen about traffic share throughout the site (ie, that Projects gets 1% (or was it 3%) of total traffic), it seem very silly to suggest that we'd be doing any kind of duplication of 'effort' by allowing comments on Projects. If 97% of the community is seeing it for the first time when it gets 'promoted' (and this 'promotion' is another outfall of Matt's envisioned workflow that I think is teh Suck), then it seems to me that there's no duplication to speak of.
As far as I can see -- outside of possible moderation issues, and AskMe's continued slow slide into noisiness is a harbinger there -- there's not nearly as much downside as there is upside to having comments on Projects.
If it's moderation concerns, then Matt should deputize another levelheaded and clueful person like jessamyn, if he can find one who's willing, to take some of the mod load. In my humble.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:42 PM on March 21, 2006
But until Matt says that that's part of the calculus, it's just speculation.
I know, too, that Matt's said that he envisioned that something would be posted to Projects, get voted on, if it's good enough, maybe it'll get posted to the Blue.
But given recent information we've seen about traffic share throughout the site (ie, that Projects gets 1% (or was it 3%) of total traffic), it seem very silly to suggest that we'd be doing any kind of duplication of 'effort' by allowing comments on Projects. If 97% of the community is seeing it for the first time when it gets 'promoted' (and this 'promotion' is another outfall of Matt's envisioned workflow that I think is teh Suck), then it seems to me that there's no duplication to speak of.
As far as I can see -- outside of possible moderation issues, and AskMe's continued slow slide into noisiness is a harbinger there -- there's not nearly as much downside as there is upside to having comments on Projects.
If it's moderation concerns, then Matt should deputize another levelheaded and clueful person like jessamyn, if he can find one who's willing, to take some of the mod load. In my humble.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:42 PM on March 21, 2006
Parody?
Seriously though, your humble was great, and makes a lot of sense.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:31 PM on March 21, 2006
Seriously though, your humble was great, and makes a lot of sense.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 10:31 PM on March 21, 2006
I think your best bet for getting feedback would be to set up a forum on your website, and include a link to the forum on the post.
posted by Sharcho at 8:38 AM on March 22, 2006
posted by Sharcho at 8:38 AM on March 22, 2006
Actually, I think I would just put a link to a MetaChat thread for people to comment on.
posted by delmoi at 1:45 PM on March 23, 2006
posted by delmoi at 1:45 PM on March 23, 2006
I. Have. Landed.
posted by Nice Donkey at 11:48 AM on April 8, 2006
posted by Nice Donkey at 11:48 AM on April 8, 2006
Hi, Cran! How's your Saturday?
posted by Nice Donkey at 11:49 AM on April 8, 2006
posted by Nice Donkey at 11:49 AM on April 8, 2006
For the substitution chart:
One blink tag = $20 = 15 unwelcome dios comments.
posted by Nice Donkey at 11:56 AM on April 8, 2006
One blink tag = $20 = 15 unwelcome dios comments.
posted by Nice Donkey at 11:56 AM on April 8, 2006
Is adios the one Spanish word most mefites would like to learn? Or does having a target for invective give the frustrated code monkey in a cubicle a necessary outlet, a distraction from the quotidian, an opportunity to say "xxxx you" instead of "Yes sir"?
In other words if a gadfly like dios didn't exist, would he have to be invented?
posted by Cranberry at 1:20 PM on April 8, 2006
In other words if a gadfly like dios didn't exist, would he have to be invented?
posted by Cranberry at 1:20 PM on April 8, 2006
A check of 11442 confirms that Mathowie has posted the sign.
posted by Cranberry at 2:47 PM on April 8, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 2:47 PM on April 8, 2006
Cranberry, that was extremely beautiful. I think the questions matter more than the answers though.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 8:10 AM on April 9, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 8:10 AM on April 9, 2006
It was on this day in 1912 that the R.M.S. Titanic departed Southampton, England, on its maiden voyage across the Atlantic. It was supposed to arrive in New York City on April 15th.
Longboats rule.
posted by Cranberry at 1:57 AM on April 10, 2006
Longboats rule.
posted by Cranberry at 1:57 AM on April 10, 2006
Yeah, longboats rule! Longboats don't strike icebergs and carry people to their icy deaths. At least, I can't think of an instance of that happening; therefore, it has never happened.
posted by Nice Donkey at 9:22 AM on April 10, 2006
posted by Nice Donkey at 9:22 AM on April 10, 2006
Waving.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 1:51 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by ereshkigal45 at 1:51 PM on April 11, 2006
Wonders if she can sustain labored posting format for third thread.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 2:00 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by ereshkigal45 at 2:00 PM on April 11, 2006
Meh, we evolved beyond that restriction aeons ago. We do peeps now.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 2:07 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 2:07 PM on April 11, 2006
I LOL'd.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 2:13 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 2:13 PM on April 11, 2006
Posts upon returning from Big Bookstore chock full of disgruntlement with extra sprinkles.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 8:03 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by ereshkigal45 at 8:03 PM on April 11, 2006
*smiles happily, raedyn and ereshkigal followed breadcrumb trail*
posted by Cranberry at 11:03 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:03 PM on April 11, 2006
Note to Raedyn:Did you see that enormous crown that IIHAA posted? Much as I liked the elegant emerald and diamond tiara, I must admit to being impressed with that gold triple crown or whatever it is called.
posted by Cranberry at 11:06 PM on April 11, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:06 PM on April 11, 2006
I believe the official term for that particular piece of headgear is The Beehive of Christ.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 5:59 AM on April 12, 2006
posted by ereshkigal45 at 5:59 AM on April 12, 2006
The auspicious re-emergence of raedyn is, indeed, a fortunate occurrence.
posted by gramschmidt at 4:17 PM on April 12, 2006
posted by gramschmidt at 4:17 PM on April 12, 2006
Canadian novelist and technology visionary Cory Doctorow will join the USC Center on Public Diplomacy as a visiting scholar beginning in September, the Canadian Fulbright Commission announced.
A different notable Canadian will come to USC each year.
OK. at first I thought it should be mathowie, but since it must be a Canadian, I await raedyn's arrival at USC.
posted by Cranberry at 5:01 PM on April 12, 2006
A different notable Canadian will come to USC each year.
OK. at first I thought it should be mathowie, but since it must be a Canadian, I await raedyn's arrival at USC.
posted by Cranberry at 5:01 PM on April 12, 2006
*puts on Canadian flag pin & sunglasses to protect from the glare off of IIHAA's Beehive of Christ*
posted by raedyn at 5:29 PM on April 12, 2006
posted by raedyn at 5:29 PM on April 12, 2006
Wait! Is the long boat full of Canadadadians?
posted by ereshkigal45 at 7:54 PM on April 12, 2006
posted by ereshkigal45 at 7:54 PM on April 12, 2006
Our taxonomy is beset with Vinlanders, Skraelings, and those unfortunate souls suffering under Popish Influenza.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 8:28 PM on April 12, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 8:28 PM on April 12, 2006
It's the birthday of Thomas Jefferson, born on his father's plantation in Albemarle County, Virginia (1743).
It's the birthday of the man who invented the game Scrabble, Alfred M. Butts, born in Poughkeepsie, New York (1899). He trademarked the game in 1949. For the first few years, only a few thousand copies of the game were sold, but in the 1950s the president of Macy's played the game on vacation and got hooked. He ordered more for his store, and Scrabble became a great success.
posted by Cranberry at 1:37 AM on April 13, 2006
It's the birthday of the man who invented the game Scrabble, Alfred M. Butts, born in Poughkeepsie, New York (1899). He trademarked the game in 1949. For the first few years, only a few thousand copies of the game were sold, but in the 1950s the president of Macy's played the game on vacation and got hooked. He ordered more for his store, and Scrabble became a great success.
posted by Cranberry at 1:37 AM on April 13, 2006
Erstwhile viking monju-botsatu, who has sought solace among us at troubling times in the past, may need our comfort once again. How to get him to at least check in here?
posted by OmieWise at 10:51 AM on April 13, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 10:51 AM on April 13, 2006
Hi.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:06 AM on April 13, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:06 AM on April 13, 2006
Yay.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:10 AM on April 13, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:10 AM on April 13, 2006
Hmm, fishin' looks good here. *grabs fishin' pole, beer, takes seat*
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:15 AM on April 13, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 11:15 AM on April 13, 2006
(I'm in the sunglasses and yellow shirt unfortunately. I've got a really badass car, though, so fuck you.)
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:18 AM on April 13, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:18 AM on April 13, 2006
It's spring.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 4:35 PM on April 13, 2006
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 4:35 PM on April 13, 2006
Can someone clarify something for me? Is Easter the one where Christians celebrate Santa Claus's triumph over Death Metal and his ascension up a staircase to a condo built on top of the Dome of the Rock? Or is that one Arbor Day?
posted by gramschmidt at 10:48 AM on April 16, 2006
posted by gramschmidt at 10:48 AM on April 16, 2006
Longboat is quiet. :(
Yes. I used a fucking emoticon, OK?
It's that kind of night.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 9:34 PM on April 16, 2006
Yes. I used a fucking emoticon, OK?
It's that kind of night.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 9:34 PM on April 16, 2006
Hey, I've been busy cutting down trees for Ann Arbor Day, OK?
posted by If I Had An Anus at 5:58 AM on April 17, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 5:58 AM on April 17, 2006
I dunno, I just picked up the first useful thing I found in the basement. I think it was a molly hatchet.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:33 AM on April 17, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 11:33 AM on April 17, 2006
All:
I just came upon the definition of crappit-head. As I was heretofore in the unfortunate position of not knowing the definition of crappit-head, and as I wish for all of my fellow longboat-dwellers to be unencumbered by such an unfortunate position, I will share my new-found knowledge.
crappit-head
Sc.
The head of a haddock stuffed with the roe, oatmeal, suet, and spices. (Jamieson.)
1815 SCOTT Guy M. xxxii, I gae a look to making the friar's chicken mysell, and to the crappit-heads too. 1816 {emem} Antiq. vi, Here is fish and sauce, and crappit-heads. 1861 RAMSAY Remin. Ser. II. 64 ‘Eat crappit heads for supper last night and was the waur o't'.
posted by Nice Donkey at 10:29 PM on April 17, 2006
I just came upon the definition of crappit-head. As I was heretofore in the unfortunate position of not knowing the definition of crappit-head, and as I wish for all of my fellow longboat-dwellers to be unencumbered by such an unfortunate position, I will share my new-found knowledge.
crappit-head
Sc.
The head of a haddock stuffed with the roe, oatmeal, suet, and spices. (Jamieson.)
1815 SCOTT Guy M. xxxii, I gae a look to making the friar's chicken mysell, and to the crappit-heads too. 1816 {emem} Antiq. vi, Here is fish and sauce, and crappit-heads. 1861 RAMSAY Remin. Ser. II. 64 ‘Eat crappit heads for supper last night and was the waur o't'.
posted by Nice Donkey at 10:29 PM on April 17, 2006
This is possibly the only thing more vile sounding than haggis. Fookin' Scots.
posted by ereshkigal45 at 7:15 AM on April 18, 2006
posted by ereshkigal45 at 7:15 AM on April 18, 2006
I'm get totally waurn o't after eating crappit too. It's hard work.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 7:27 AM on April 18, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 7:27 AM on April 18, 2006
Nice Donkey, please come back with a translation. Does "and was the waur o't'" mean the eater was worn out? or was the worse for it?
Do we have to call Languagehat? He must be so busy making iPod thingies.
posted by Cranberry at 11:40 AM on April 18, 2006
Do we have to call Languagehat? He must be so busy making iPod thingies.
posted by Cranberry at 11:40 AM on April 18, 2006
Note the balanced diet in Omie's fish head stew -healthful veggies, broccoli maybe and okra? green beans and tomato or maybe red pepper to disguise the taste if the fish was not quite fresh. mmmm
posted by Cranberry at 11:43 AM on April 18, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:43 AM on April 18, 2006
Fish Head Curry is a really really spicy dish. I mean, really spicy. Some call it the hottest dish on earth.
posted by OmieWise at 11:55 AM on April 18, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 11:55 AM on April 18, 2006
I read 'was the waur o't' as meaning roughly 'was the worse for it.' The OED says that 'waur' is equivalent to 'worse,' noting, "The spelling waur, which first appears in the 18th c., was adopted by Burns and Scott, and is now general in Scottish use." As Burns once wrote, "There's mony waur been o' the race, And aiblins ane been better Than you this day."
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:41 PM on April 18, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 1:41 PM on April 18, 2006
Why thank you, monju, for taking time off from your customary hobby of explaining what dios meant, or should have meant!
And aiblins ane been better than monju this day.
*hopes that means something nice*
posted by Cranberry at 3:03 PM on April 18, 2006
And aiblins ane been better than monju this day.
*hopes that means something nice*
posted by Cranberry at 3:03 PM on April 18, 2006
I got the definition of crappit-head from the OED. I like monju's interpretation. I just like to say crappit-head. I think I might like to call someone a crappit-head, if they do something deserving of the term. But I'm not sure what that something would be . . .
posted by Nice Donkey at 4:26 PM on April 18, 2006
posted by Nice Donkey at 4:26 PM on April 18, 2006
'Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle!
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel!
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.'
Looks like the deer finally polished them off. Surely he will have their heads mounted over his fireplace.
O wait, that was the Queen of Hearts
posted by Cranberry at 10:39 PM on April 18, 2006
Agreed to have a battle!
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel!
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.'
Looks like the deer finally polished them off. Surely he will have their heads mounted over his fireplace.
O wait, that was the Queen of Hearts
posted by Cranberry at 10:39 PM on April 18, 2006
Oooh! Nice to have a still picture from B_B's family album. There was so much flame and motion that I did not get a close look in Two Towers when Gandalf struggled with the Balrog.
posted by Cranberry at 11:53 AM on April 19, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 11:53 AM on April 19, 2006
It's the birthday of artist Joan Miró, born in Barcelona, Spain (1893). He became known for his colorful, surrealistic paintings that combined abstract shapes with plants, animals and people.
See Google for a tribute to Miró.
posted by Cranberry at 12:50 AM on April 20, 2006
See Google for a tribute to Miró.
posted by Cranberry at 12:50 AM on April 20, 2006
Objective: Create a fossil marine ecosystem out of edible materials. Some animals are predatory, others filter feeders or scavengers.
posted by If I Had An Anus at 5:32 AM on April 20, 2006
posted by If I Had An Anus at 5:32 AM on April 20, 2006
YEAH! Longboat represent!
posted by Nice Donkey at 9:39 AM on April 20, 2006
posted by Nice Donkey at 9:39 AM on April 20, 2006
The calendar pages are fluttering, the clock is ticking. Some time soon, Friday or Saturday, the landlord will realize that we have not paid the rent.
Shall we pack our seabags and sail off to ?
posted by Cranberry at 11:31 AM on April 20, 2006
Shall we pack our seabags and sail off to ?
posted by Cranberry at 11:31 AM on April 20, 2006
I'll be there, although we could use a little help, here, too.
posted by OmieWise at 6:36 AM on April 21, 2006
posted by OmieWise at 6:36 AM on April 21, 2006
You are not logged in, either login or create an account to post comments
1. Answers about why your project is or isn't good, don't generally help everyone else
2. General feedback questions tend towards the general and are practically chatfilter in nature.
HOWEVER, there are ways a question like this could work. If you are trying to solve a specific problem [i.e. why can't I get CSS to do this or that? what is a better way of making the sidenav more obvious?] that might be okay, though having a link to your project in your profile is also an okay way to do this, probably a better way to do this.
So, think about the difference between "Help me make a good mix CD." and "Help me make a good mix CD for my friend getting back from Sierra Leone where he has listened to nothing but palm wine music for a year." In short, if you really truly have a question to ask and are not just looking for a way to drive more traffic towards your site, it might be okay, but in most circumstances I see these questions go badly. General "give me some feedback" questions aren't a good use of AskMe.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:04 PM on March 21, 2006