Did anyone else get a drawing done by Hannes Kater? December 3, 2006 8:23 PM Subscribe
Did anyone else get a drawing done by Hannes Kater? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
Don't play childish games, what are you eight? Just show.
posted by econous at 10:31 PM on December 3, 2006
posted by econous at 10:31 PM on December 3, 2006
But it's embarassing! I don't want to be alone!
Just kidding, here it is.
posted by arcticwoman at 11:04 PM on December 3, 2006
Just kidding, here it is.
posted by arcticwoman at 11:04 PM on December 3, 2006
Oh, that's great. Very touching text, articwoman, and I love the drawing.
posted by taz at 11:41 PM on December 3, 2006
posted by taz at 11:41 PM on December 3, 2006
That was a wonderful drawing. Thanks for sharing somehting so personal, articwoman.
posted by piratebowling at 4:40 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by piratebowling at 4:40 AM on December 4, 2006
Good thing you pointed out the text, pirate. I hadn't noticed it right away. Without it the picture looks..... well. Let's just say I missed the females head being a part of the body there and it looked oddly familiar without it.
posted by IronLizard at 5:24 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by IronLizard at 5:24 AM on December 4, 2006
Thank you for sharing something so personal. I'm interested to know - what is your reaction to the image?
posted by typewriter at 5:37 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by typewriter at 5:37 AM on December 4, 2006
We are sorry to hear of your loss and our thoughts go with you.
posted by unrepentanthippie at 6:08 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by unrepentanthippie at 6:08 AM on December 4, 2006
Your story deserves any number of drawings, arcticwoman.
posted by jamjam at 8:44 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by jamjam at 8:44 AM on December 4, 2006
Thanks everyone for your condolences. I didn't want to turn this into a pity party, though, but since you brought chips...
My reaction to the image? This might seem silly, but it actually is helping me deal with the miscarriage. I felt a weird sense of relief when I first saw it, although I can't quite follow Kater's symbology. I don't know if this is a case of me psychoanalysing the picture or the picture psychoanalysing me, but there were some very specific things that I got out of the the image.
I am an atheist and strongly do not believe in any "meant-to-be" but I think that if there is anything with more knowledge than my Self, it is my Body, and the way Kater drew the figure almost crouching to shed the material into the earth, makes the miscarriage seem almost like a purposeful act on the part of my body. The head is not connected to the act, rather the head is divided (there are two of them). One is right in the middle of the image, surrounded with symbols for heart, and the other is swimming in Kater's symbol for memory. Maybe this is the Body and the Self that I referred to earlier. To me it also refers to the two women involved in making this baby, my partner and I. She was less physically connected than I, so her face would be the topmost one, but she would have been just as much a mother as I. Both faces are connected to a heart, and the hearts are connected to each other. She is my solace in this.
Some of the memory symbols seem to be moving backward, and some forward. My pain was both related to the loss of what I had and to the loss of what I would have had - and mostly the latter. Some of the memory performers are attached to the ground, where the shed material also seems to be headed, and to which the legs of the figure are attached. This experience will always be a part of me, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Maybe I can use it to stand on, to make myself taller and stronger. The little ghost in the middle with the x'd out eyes is obviously the dead baby, and it is attached to the figure's womb and breasts. I don't feel like I lost a baby, though, just the possibility of a baby, so I don't know what I think of this. Finally, (for now anyway!) the character that represents the client (ie. the me who asked for the photo), is off to one side, spectating, but not too far removed.
I don't know what Kater meant me to understand from the image, but the strange symbols and weird style let me sort of imprint my own meanings on it. It helped me to understand how I am feeling about things; make clearer my scattered emotions.
Whew! Now that I've shared my innermost thoughts... anyone want to get drunk? (Actually that's my one miscarriage joke: at least I can drink the pain away. Ha!) Thank you, signal, for posting that link to the front page. And thanks to everyone who consoled me through it in my AskMe question. Sob! I just love you all!
posted by arcticwoman at 8:44 AM on December 4, 2006
My reaction to the image? This might seem silly, but it actually is helping me deal with the miscarriage. I felt a weird sense of relief when I first saw it, although I can't quite follow Kater's symbology. I don't know if this is a case of me psychoanalysing the picture or the picture psychoanalysing me, but there were some very specific things that I got out of the the image.
I am an atheist and strongly do not believe in any "meant-to-be" but I think that if there is anything with more knowledge than my Self, it is my Body, and the way Kater drew the figure almost crouching to shed the material into the earth, makes the miscarriage seem almost like a purposeful act on the part of my body. The head is not connected to the act, rather the head is divided (there are two of them). One is right in the middle of the image, surrounded with symbols for heart, and the other is swimming in Kater's symbol for memory. Maybe this is the Body and the Self that I referred to earlier. To me it also refers to the two women involved in making this baby, my partner and I. She was less physically connected than I, so her face would be the topmost one, but she would have been just as much a mother as I. Both faces are connected to a heart, and the hearts are connected to each other. She is my solace in this.
Some of the memory symbols seem to be moving backward, and some forward. My pain was both related to the loss of what I had and to the loss of what I would have had - and mostly the latter. Some of the memory performers are attached to the ground, where the shed material also seems to be headed, and to which the legs of the figure are attached. This experience will always be a part of me, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Maybe I can use it to stand on, to make myself taller and stronger. The little ghost in the middle with the x'd out eyes is obviously the dead baby, and it is attached to the figure's womb and breasts. I don't feel like I lost a baby, though, just the possibility of a baby, so I don't know what I think of this. Finally, (for now anyway!) the character that represents the client (ie. the me who asked for the photo), is off to one side, spectating, but not too far removed.
I don't know what Kater meant me to understand from the image, but the strange symbols and weird style let me sort of imprint my own meanings on it. It helped me to understand how I am feeling about things; make clearer my scattered emotions.
Whew! Now that I've shared my innermost thoughts... anyone want to get drunk? (Actually that's my one miscarriage joke: at least I can drink the pain away. Ha!) Thank you, signal, for posting that link to the front page. And thanks to everyone who consoled me through it in my AskMe question. Sob! I just love you all!
posted by arcticwoman at 8:44 AM on December 4, 2006
Thank you again for sharing. I'm not sure why I asked. I think that I just wanted to confirm it had a positive impact, and I'm glad that it did.
posted by typewriter at 9:29 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by typewriter at 9:29 AM on December 4, 2006
You're very welcome, arcticwoman. Oddly enough, I still haven't gotten around to asking for one, myself.
posted by signal at 11:23 AM on December 4, 2006
posted by signal at 11:23 AM on December 4, 2006
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posted by dobbs at 9:06 PM on December 3, 2006