Sharing Userids January 21, 2002 7:21 AM Subscribe
*This is Mrs. thatwhichfalls posting, I am responsible for all my own comments*
Regardles of the merits of the FPP, shouldn't a new user go ahead and sign up, post a few comments, get a feel for the place, and earn the right to post to FP?
Regardles of the merits of the FPP, shouldn't a new user go ahead and sign up, post a few comments, get a feel for the place, and earn the right to post to FP?
Not really, the (former) front page post was about web bugs.
posted by insomnyuk at 7:25 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by insomnyuk at 7:25 AM on January 21, 2002
Wait, the post was deleted at 7:30am PST. What is Matt doing up this early? Or are there other mods?
posted by remlapm at 7:28 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by remlapm at 7:28 AM on January 21, 2002
why the post got deleted:
- the link described web bugs on "porno" sites, but the destination URL was a general page describing what web bugs were, having nothing to say about porn sites.
- several sentences explaining the past week of metafilter and her situation wasn't what I want to see on posts. Why didn't the person with the account edit/rewrite it to fit in with metafilter (since they are more experienced with the site)?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 7:30 AM on January 21, 2002
- the link described web bugs on "porno" sites, but the destination URL was a general page describing what web bugs were, having nothing to say about porn sites.
- several sentences explaining the past week of metafilter and her situation wasn't what I want to see on posts. Why didn't the person with the account edit/rewrite it to fit in with metafilter (since they are more experienced with the site)?
posted by mathowie (staff) at 7:30 AM on January 21, 2002
No, Matt, I was just wondering why you were up so early when everyone has the day off ( except me obviously ). Deleting the post made perfect sense. Just curious.
posted by remlapm at 7:40 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by remlapm at 7:40 AM on January 21, 2002
Wait, nevermind, that's none of my business. I just thought there might be another Eastern time zone mod.
posted by remlapm at 7:44 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by remlapm at 7:44 AM on January 21, 2002
We need metametatalk so I can be taken to task for cluttering the front page. I promise to have my coffee before posting from now on.
The problem I had was the fact that she used her husband's id rather than getting her own, but that thread was doomed from the getgo for the reasons Matt pointed out.
posted by gimli at 8:01 AM on January 21, 2002
The problem I had was the fact that she used her husband's id rather than getting her own, but that thread was doomed from the getgo for the reasons Matt pointed out.
posted by gimli at 8:01 AM on January 21, 2002
...shouldn't a new user go ahead and sign up, post a few comments...
This is kind of besides the point, but new user sign up is currently closed. There also seems to be quite a bit of account sharing between husbands/wives/friends/pets/neightbors/etc, which I have no problem with (currently, anyway), but I could see it becoming an issue shortly....
posted by skwm at 8:08 AM on January 21, 2002
This is kind of besides the point, but new user sign up is currently closed. There also seems to be quite a bit of account sharing between husbands/wives/friends/pets/neightbors/etc, which I have no problem with (currently, anyway), but I could see it becoming an issue shortly....
posted by skwm at 8:08 AM on January 21, 2002
In fact I think posting under someone else's id should get your butt kickd....but i am surprised my husband hasn't tried it before now....not that I would approve AT ALL.....
posted by bunnyfire at 8:10 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by bunnyfire at 8:10 AM on January 21, 2002
Didn't know new signups were closed. Damn, I'm out of touch. No, wait. My wife posted that! Yeah...
posted by gimli at 8:17 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by gimli at 8:17 AM on January 21, 2002
Now you can blame that double post on your spouse/children instead!
posted by panopticon at 8:35 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by panopticon at 8:35 AM on January 21, 2002
In fact I think posting under someone else's id should get your butt kickd....but i am surprised my husband hasn't tried it before now....
I can see it now -- a flamewar, seemingly between bunnyfire and herself, but, unbeknownst to others, in fact between herself and hubby....
(just to willfully misinterpret, y'know.)
posted by mattpfeff at 9:25 AM on January 21, 2002
I can see it now -- a flamewar, seemingly between bunnyfire and herself, but, unbeknownst to others, in fact between herself and hubby....
(just to willfully misinterpret, y'know.)
posted by mattpfeff at 9:25 AM on January 21, 2002
*this is Mrs. twf again*
Sorry, didn't realise it would get everyone's panties in a bunch for me to use my husband's account, but as skwm pointed out, new signups are closed and have been for some time, from what was explained t me. My husband doesn't edit my posts because he's my HUSBAND, not my editor, but if it's such a horriffic sin, no problem, it'll never happen again. However, if one had read the entire site, one might have spotted the line referring to porn sites specifically, although the entire was rather generalistic. Sorry, there's no way to link to specific lines in a sites, that I know of. However, you may now return to your regularly scheduled MeFi. I got nuthin' more to say.
posted by thatwhichfalls at 10:43 AM on January 21, 2002
Sorry, didn't realise it would get everyone's panties in a bunch for me to use my husband's account, but as skwm pointed out, new signups are closed and have been for some time, from what was explained t me. My husband doesn't edit my posts because he's my HUSBAND, not my editor, but if it's such a horriffic sin, no problem, it'll never happen again. However, if one had read the entire site, one might have spotted the line referring to porn sites specifically, although the entire was rather generalistic. Sorry, there's no way to link to specific lines in a sites, that I know of. However, you may now return to your regularly scheduled MeFi. I got nuthin' more to say.
posted by thatwhichfalls at 10:43 AM on January 21, 2002
...didn't realise it would get everyone's panties in a bunch...
Everyone? So far, only bunnyfire has said anything against it, and she hardly counts as 'everyone'.
posted by skwm at 10:48 AM on January 21, 2002
Everyone? So far, only bunnyfire has said anything against it, and she hardly counts as 'everyone'.
posted by skwm at 10:48 AM on January 21, 2002
he's my HUSBAND, not my editor
I only mentioned it because he has posted a couple times in the past, and would have a good idea of what posts typically look like.
one might have spotted the line referring to porn sites specifically, although the entire was rather generalistic.
If the entire point of a post is to point out a very specific way a hack is being exploited and how it may be used against users, I would expect the page linked to fully describe it, not be one line in a general page. People expect to see supporting evidence for a claim, especially if the original post is stating an opinion one way or the other.
If you look around at similar posts, often people will comment with things like "but username, how can that be, the page you linked to doesn't support that."
If you had found a better source site explaining the use of web bugs in this specific way, I probably would have left the link up and removed all the childish banter on the comments.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:54 AM on January 21, 2002
I only mentioned it because he has posted a couple times in the past, and would have a good idea of what posts typically look like.
one might have spotted the line referring to porn sites specifically, although the entire was rather generalistic.
If the entire point of a post is to point out a very specific way a hack is being exploited and how it may be used against users, I would expect the page linked to fully describe it, not be one line in a general page. People expect to see supporting evidence for a claim, especially if the original post is stating an opinion one way or the other.
If you look around at similar posts, often people will comment with things like "but username, how can that be, the page you linked to doesn't support that."
If you had found a better source site explaining the use of web bugs in this specific way, I probably would have left the link up and removed all the childish banter on the comments.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:54 AM on January 21, 2002
only because I don't want my dh getting IDEAS.......
posted by bunnyfire at 11:30 AM on January 21, 2002
posted by bunnyfire at 11:30 AM on January 21, 2002
often people will comment with things like "but username, how can that be, the page you linked to doesn't support that."
Matt, that sounds so English!
I keep imagining our more American and less charitable posters, at their pre-caffeinated worst, reacting to some linkless post in the same 1930's drawing-room comedy way:
"Oh but Username, how can that be, pray tell? I'm terribly sorry but the page you linked to simply doesn't support that, old fruit."
"hey username, you dumb fuck! Are you allergic to links or were you just born that way?" would be more like it. ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:13 PM on January 21, 2002
Matt, that sounds so English!
I keep imagining our more American and less charitable posters, at their pre-caffeinated worst, reacting to some linkless post in the same 1930's drawing-room comedy way:
"Oh but Username, how can that be, pray tell? I'm terribly sorry but the page you linked to simply doesn't support that, old fruit."
"hey username, you dumb fuck! Are you allergic to links or were you just born that way?" would be more like it. ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 12:13 PM on January 21, 2002
* this is adampsyche's stomach talking *
howzabout some pancakes?
posted by adampsyche at 2:19 PM on January 21, 2002
howzabout some pancakes?
posted by adampsyche at 2:19 PM on January 21, 2002
Miguel, no one says "dumb fuck" anymore. It's "fuckwit" now, OK? Sheesh.
:)
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:25 PM on January 21, 2002
:)
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:25 PM on January 21, 2002
MetaFilter: The page you linked to simply doesn't support that, old fruit.
posted by iceberg273 at 4:02 PM on January 21, 2002
posted by iceberg273 at 4:02 PM on January 21, 2002
looks around at the place
seems OK
fallen pillars, broken aqueducts, large parts of South Med crushed, sown with salt
looks like you all got off lightly - she only used conventional weapons
by the way - our baby was born 10:18 eastern time 01-22-02
7.5lbs, female, and beautiful
posted by thatwhichfalls at 11:46 PM on January 22, 2002
seems OK
fallen pillars, broken aqueducts, large parts of South Med crushed, sown with salt
looks like you all got off lightly - she only used conventional weapons
by the way - our baby was born 10:18 eastern time 01-22-02
7.5lbs, female, and beautiful
posted by thatwhichfalls at 11:46 PM on January 22, 2002
Thank You MiguelCardoso
"Congratulations and happinesses"
according to google - my Portugese is awful
(still buzzing - I SAW MY BABY BEING BORN -
and i saw something
like a slow climb
slippery hands
eyes fixated
within, looking at a place
already lost
andascreamandascreamandalastscaream
distant, broken
everything they saw
for the first time
through fingers
fuckyouithurtsandnextonetotouchmyFEET
her eyes, unfocussed
small fingers reaching
and a kind of rage
against a world so filled
ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshit
And love for as long as you can take it.
)
posted by thatwhichfalls at 1:00 AM on January 23, 2002
"Congratulations and happinesses"
according to google - my Portugese is awful
(still buzzing - I SAW MY BABY BEING BORN -
and i saw something
like a slow climb
slippery hands
eyes fixated
within, looking at a place
already lost
andascreamandascreamandalastscaream
distant, broken
everything they saw
for the first time
through fingers
fuckyouithurtsandnextonetotouchmyFEET
her eyes, unfocussed
small fingers reaching
and a kind of rage
against a world so filled
ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshit
And love for as long as you can take it.
)
posted by thatwhichfalls at 1:00 AM on January 23, 2002
Thank You MiguelCardoso
"Congratulations and happinesses"
according to google - my Portugese is awful
(still buzzing - I SAW MY BABY BEING BORN -
and i saw something
like a slow climb
slippery hands
eyes fixated
within, looking at a place
already lost
andascreamandascreamandalastscaream
distant, broken
everything they saw
for the first time
through fingers
fuckyouithurtsandnextonetotouchmyFEET
her eyes, unfocussed
small fingers reaching
and a kind of rage
against a world so filled
ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshit
And love for as long as you can take it.
)
posted by thatwhichfalls at 1:00 AM on January 23, 2002
"Congratulations and happinesses"
according to google - my Portugese is awful
(still buzzing - I SAW MY BABY BEING BORN -
and i saw something
like a slow climb
slippery hands
eyes fixated
within, looking at a place
already lost
andascreamandascreamandalastscaream
distant, broken
everything they saw
for the first time
through fingers
fuckyouithurtsandnextonetotouchmyFEET
her eyes, unfocussed
small fingers reaching
and a kind of rage
against a world so filled
ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshit
And love for as long as you can take it.
)
posted by thatwhichfalls at 1:00 AM on January 23, 2002
fuckyouithurtsandnextonetotouchmyFEET
She'll forgive you eventually.
Congratulations (and, uh, happinesses), twf.
posted by rodii at 5:10 AM on January 23, 2002
She'll forgive you eventually.
Congratulations (and, uh, happinesses), twf.
posted by rodii at 5:10 AM on January 23, 2002
Congrats to you both! I sent you an e-mail the other day, btw, to offer mrs. twf the use of a user-id I created a few months back as a goof (only used in 1 MeTa thread, so no embarrassing history). Given the circumstances, the name is pretty appropriate, though Matt might be able to change the name for you if you ask. E-mail for the password if you want it. Just to set the record straight, I wouldn't have had a problem with her using your account if I had known new signups were closed.
posted by gimli at 12:13 PM on January 23, 2002
posted by gimli at 12:13 PM on January 23, 2002
congratulations!
(no hard feelings? that part about south med was awfully descriptive....)
posted by bunnyfire at 3:42 AM on January 24, 2002
(no hard feelings? that part about south med was awfully descriptive....)
posted by bunnyfire at 3:42 AM on January 24, 2002
Wow. Congratulations to you folks.
I can't believe the stuff that happens around here when I stop paying attention.
*vows to forgo sleep and read every thread.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:18 AM on January 24, 2002
I can't believe the stuff that happens around here when I stop paying attention.
*vows to forgo sleep and read every thread.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:18 AM on January 24, 2002
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posted by gimli at 7:23 AM on January 21, 2002