July 24, 2003

2:58 PM

insomnyuk is way out of line in this thread. Its more than a little odd to find new insulting comments sent my way 30 hours since my last post in that thread. This thread has trolling and namecalling on a level that makes fark comments sound like someone's phd dissertation. 1, 2, 3,
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posted by skallas to etiquette/policy at 2:58 PM (138 comments total)

"unclefucking fuckwit"

-10 points for the double fuckative.
posted by quonsar at 3:02 PM on July 24, 2003

PhD dissertation! That's priceless! It's good to know you were paying attention the whole time skallas.
posted by insomnyuk at 3:07 PM on July 24, 2003

slender douchebag

+9 points for original epithets
posted by signal at 3:10 PM on July 24, 2003

insomnyuk: you need to grow up and take a time out.

MetaFilter should be, above all else, fun. You're both taking things too personally, and then attacking people in a manner that is out of proportion to the prevailing tone.

And, you're trolling. Please leave or stop.
posted by bshort at 3:15 PM on July 24, 2003

U SUX0R
posted by xmutex at 3:17 PM on July 24, 2003

U THINK IT SUX0RS BUT IT'S NOT
posted by quonsar at 3:32 PM on July 24, 2003

i will not take this abuse from you mister quonsar by god i will not.
posted by xmutex at 3:41 PM on July 24, 2003

Kids, kids. You both SUX0Rz.
posted by eyeballkid at 3:46 PM on July 24, 2003

what do you suppose is going to be accomplished by this call-out, skallas? Aside from Insomnyuk getting his little trollish hard-on, nothing.

Nothing changes around here. Assholes remain assholes. Trolls remain trolls. Jackasses remain jackasses.

In the end, who the fuck cares? Not me.
posted by crunchland at 3:51 PM on July 24, 2003

>what do you suppose is going to be accomplished by this call-out, skallas?

Whatever Matt's policy on trolls is will dictate that. We have an etiquette section for a reason.
posted by skallas at 3:53 PM on July 24, 2003

crunchland, if you don't care, why bother replying to this at all?

i thought this is what metatalk is for.
posted by sugarfish at 4:02 PM on July 24, 2003

Ah, but we do care, don't we crunchland? It's just that we sometimes wish we didn't.
posted by timeistight at 4:10 PM on July 24, 2003

Jesus christ, can people chill the fuck out? Is it the hot summer? Everyone's been a little loco lately. I tried my best to ask decent, level-headed questions in that thread, and I can't help but notice they seem to stand out as the only statements not made by someone frothing at the mouth.

Y'all sound like talk radio hosts sometimes.
posted by mathowie at 4:54 PM on July 24, 2003

you're listening to Q-107! we suck less!
posted by quonsar at 5:03 PM on July 24, 2003

Look: a deranged man killed a politician. Everyone wants to say something about it, but there's really nothing to say except "ain't it awful," so they pass the time squabbling instead.
posted by timeistight at 5:36 PM on July 24, 2003

but there's really nothing to say

"Why did this happen?" and "How did this happen?" and "What will this mean?" seem like plenty of conversation fodder to share with your fellow mefi member.
posted by mathowie at 5:41 PM on July 24, 2003

Maybe an addition to the "comments" section of the "About" page would be helpful... encouraging people to avoid name calling and ask intelligent questions. And say "pike!"

I know, some of you want to throw things at me for adding that last bit. I've never been one to harp on the weird little self-emergent behaviors that I find fascinating in an online community, but lately, sometimes I've felt like the playful self-emergent stuff can often threaten to encroach on the charter... this place is supposed to have observations of interesting things and interesting discussion as one of its central tenets.

I also know I'm not the first person to point that out, so I don't know exactly what good comes of it... maybe the next 10 people who hurl a personal insult in a thread need a time out?
posted by namespan at 5:56 PM on July 24, 2003

i didn't contribute to that particular thread but i have noticed a hulk-like change come over me while being on mefi: at first i was content to discuss/argue topics [fairly] civlized. in time though, my hulkamanian ego got the best of me when i discovered that the only way to be heard was to... well... act like a complete asshole with a big loud stupid mouth, and that's exactly what i ended up being.

it's weird 'cause IRL, i'm an utter wimp, but online personas have a way of getting way the fuck outta control (especially in males IMO) and destroying any sense of decency and respect for others.
posted by poopy at 6:33 PM on July 24, 2003

oh... and fuck you, unclefucking fuckwits.
posted by poopy at 6:39 PM on July 24, 2003

My policy is to never say anything nasty about anyone and I suggest you all would do well to follow it.
posted by jonson at 6:40 PM on July 24, 2003

I cannot believe Matt actually said "y'all."
posted by konolia at 6:53 PM on July 24, 2003

he even spelled it right.
posted by quonsar at 7:02 PM on July 24, 2003

POOPY! IN THE CORNER WITH YOU! MINUS THIRTY FOR THE TRIPLE FUCKATIVE! NOW!
posted by interrobang at 7:14 PM on July 24, 2003

I would also make my usual remark about "perfectly reasonable" posts about cutting off my right hand, a la the last supremely fascinating metatalk thread, but I won't. Instead, I'm going to try to derail this one by saying:

Am I the only one who misses Son_of_Minya? I know we all hate trolls - sort of - but I really like reading comments from people whose viewpoint I truly can't understand.

I don't mean this in the thomcatspike-manner (where the grammar sense does make not), and I don't mean it in the Steve_at_Linwood manner (where the politics are different from mine).

Son_of_Minya - though I don't think I ever agreed with him - had a very strange (and sometimes offensive or crazy) point of view. I enjoyed reading his comments. I really liiked to see how he stitched his political and moral viewpoints together. Does anyone else think he got unfairly alienated?
posted by interrobang at 7:34 PM on July 24, 2003

Someone has to say it:

Metafilter: fuck you, unclefucking fuckwits.
posted by notsnot at 7:35 PM on July 24, 2003

Am I the only one who misses Son_of_Minya?

Actually, yes. I think you are.
posted by rocketman at 8:08 PM on July 24, 2003

Interrobang's got a point. Too many trolls around here remind me of abusive bullies, who just keep saying "I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I?". The most frustrating part is knowing that their ignorance and immaturity acts as their greatest defence. It's nice finding people with a bit of complexity and depth to their ideals.
posted by Jimbob at 8:12 PM on July 24, 2003

Do you enjoy homogeneity, rocketman?
posted by interrobang at 8:14 PM on July 24, 2003

The day my mother suffered a stroke, she behaved really strangely for most of the day- rather snippy, vulgar, and easily irritated. It was strange, coming from my mom, who is usually a lovely woman.
Maybe insomnyuk isn't feeling well. No, seriously.
posted by oflinkey at 8:22 PM on July 24, 2003

Too many trolls around here remind me of abusive bullies, who just keep saying "I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I?".

Yes, exactly. Insomnyuk's behavior in the linked thread is like this. At first, he makes a statement about something. Then, everyone asks him to define the words he's using. He does not. Later, he resorts to using the word "fuck" too many times in a single sentence.

People like Son_of_Minya make extremely unpopular statements, but at least when someone would call him out on what he'd said, he'd define terms, directly respond to questions, and make a definite attempt to flesh out his perspective.

Like I've already said, I never agreed with him, but I liked having him here. I really don't like it when everyone's just agreeing with each other around here, and I like posters who I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT AGREE WITH as a matter of principle who are willing to take some time to try to explain to the rest of us why they think the way they do.
posted by interrobang at 8:23 PM on July 24, 2003

posted by insomnyuk at 8:27 PM on July 24, 2003 [1 favorite]

See? See? He probably won't explain to us what "Bo shuda" means, even.
posted by interrobang at 8:30 PM on July 24, 2003

The alt text on insomnyuk's image is "skallas."

You really need to chill out.
posted by skallas at 8:31 PM on July 24, 2003

Te jabba no bodda.
posted by rocketman at 8:42 PM on July 24, 2003

Skallas: I know you're really a bot, you don't scare me. You were most likely written by the liberal, schizophrenic split personality of Steven Den Beste.
posted by insomnyuk at 8:46 PM on July 24, 2003

Jesus, can he even make a single statement that isn't just an attack? Others have gotten banned because of this kind of behavior! And others have actually had something to say!
posted by interrobang at 8:48 PM on July 24, 2003

Jesus, insomnyuk, give it a fucking rest.
posted by Hildago at 8:49 PM on July 24, 2003

posted by insomnyuk at 8:50 PM on July 24, 2003

Ho ho ho. Ya koo tocha ka poonoo nee sok nyee.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:51 PM on July 24, 2003

Te wanna wonga?
posted by rocketman at 8:51 PM on July 24, 2003

If even insane eloquence can get someone kicked off of this site, can't insane and obsessive iconography?
posted by interrobang at 8:53 PM on July 24, 2003

Ootini!
posted by rocketman at 8:56 PM on July 24, 2003

amberglow: Anybody that bans cigarettes from all buildings in New York City and raises taxes to well-nigh astronomic heights is liberal in my book.

A ha. So someone against cigarette smoke is a liberal while someone against pot smoke is a conservative. Plus, even though he's the millionaire owner of a major financial research group (those leftists and their international stock services organizations!) who ran on the Republican Party ticket with the endorsement of every conservative paper in New York, he's a liberal "in your book" for doing what George Bush did.

Please clarify, as I'm having lots of trouble figuring out how that isn't the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 1:38 PM PST on July 23


I fell out of my chair.
posted by the fire you left me at 8:58 PM on July 24, 2003

insomnyuk, is that you?
posted by stonerose at 9:02 PM on July 24, 2003

Yes that's me.

I lika do da cha cha, I do da cha cha good.
posted by insomnyuk at 9:06 PM on July 24, 2003

Photoshop away, friends!
posted by insomnyuk at 9:06 PM on July 24, 2003

And... like that, MetaFilter turned into kindergarten.

Where's my chocolate milk and cookies?
posted by Tin Man at 9:15 PM on July 24, 2003

Not that there is any point in trying to discuss or rectify the matter, but insomnyuk is not interesting in communicating with people at all. Can you imagine someone taking this approach to verbal communication? Constant fart noises?

"Troll" is a played-out word, which is a shame, because it really fits here.
posted by Ignatius J. Reilly at 9:22 PM on July 24, 2003

Where's my chocolate milk and cookies?

I hear they're in someone's slender douchebag somewhere.
posted by interrobang at 9:23 PM on July 24, 2003

Well, we know insomnyuk got an 8 on hotornot.com (because he tells us twice on his userpage.) Alas, www.emotionallystableornot.com seems to be down.
posted by stonerose at 9:39 PM on July 24, 2003

"Spring Fresh" brand colonic: a slender douchebag for the ample ass.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 9:40 PM on July 24, 2003

insomnyuk has definitely lost his marbles, but skallas, in the past week, has made some absurdly offensive remarks regarding prayer and the War in Iraq. I'm not at all excusing insomnyuk's behavior, but claiming, for instance, that "prayer doesn't work" is incredibly rude and tactless. Beliefs are beliefs, but in a public forum that's read by thousands, some taste and respect is required. Perhaps insomnyuk is not alone with his anger.
posted by BlueTrain at 9:46 PM on July 24, 2003

You mean prayer actually works?

*starts praying his ass off*

More to the point : until you can show me the 'absurdly offensive remarks' you mention, I'll have to call shenanigans.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:51 PM on July 24, 2003

I remember reading the "prayer does not work" thread. I *think* you're talking about this one, but my "search" function is not working right now on this electronic abacus I use.

Skallas (of course) could provide no empirical evidence that prayer does not work.

However, in the thread you're talking about, I remember a number of people calling him out about it, and he didn't use abject (and hilarioiusly original!) profanity as his sole defense. Unlike Insomnyuk, he posted very long defences of what he was saying. There weren't any "douchebags" - whatever those are, no matter their physical mass - in there.
posted by interrobang at 10:00 PM on July 24, 2003

jesus never brought my little fluffy back.
posted by quonsar at 10:12 PM on July 24, 2003

*tosses q his little fluffy back*
Sorry I forgot about that...
posted by jmd82 at 11:22 PM on July 24, 2003

Seriously, some people would find the idea of "prayer works!!!" trollish. No matter what you say, you can find at least one whacko out there who finds what you said trollish, so everything you say is in effect a troll!
posted by jmd82 at 11:25 PM on July 24, 2003

"Why did this happen?"
Psychosis.

"How did this happen?"
Lax gun laws.

"What will this mean?"
Tighter security at City Halls, for a while.
posted by timeistight at 11:39 PM on July 24, 2003

claiming, for instance, that "prayer doesn't work" is incredibly rude and tactless
That is a slight exaggeration, don't you think? I saw it as more of a personal observation and while many may disagree with the statement, it was hardly offensive. To me, anyway. It may be so to someone who has a very thin skin, in which case MeFi is not the ideal place to hang out.
posted by dg at 11:50 PM on July 24, 2003

>some absurdly offensive remarks regarding prayer and the War in Iraq.

Run through my posts and talk about my stuff all you like, but if an atheistic view-point is "absurdly offensive" then perhaps you're being a little too sensitive. The same with anti-war views.

> Beliefs are beliefs, but in a public forum that's read by thousands, some taste and respect is required.

Nonesense. I don't at all believe that atheists or those opposed to the war should "shut up for the community" because it violates some warped and a *very* subjective idea of respect. Respect on a webboard has no viewpoint in my opinion, its a process, e.g. explaining yourself, not engaging in "you're a fuckwit, no you're a super-fuckwit" nonsense, etc.
posted by skallas at 11:53 PM on July 24, 2003

>public forum that's read by thousands

This statement particularly bothers me. Why should I, we, or anyone change when there's a crowd involved. It can easily be parsed as something like "We don't need *those* books in the library, they just anger up the blood. Think of the community."
posted by skallas at 11:57 PM on July 24, 2003

Yet when a Christian here tries to speak up for their beliefs, how often is it considered flamebait?
posted by jmd82 at 11:59 PM on July 24, 2003

Rarely, provided they don't call everyone who disagrees with their beliefs a fuckwit.

Nice try, though.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:22 AM on July 25, 2003

As much as I like skallas for constantly reminding us what an over-bearing jackass can be like, I say we keep him. Just look at his MetaTalk posting record. This gentle baby needs to be swaddled in silk blankets. In fact, I think we need to tailor our posting sensisbilities around skallas's fragile psyche.
posted by ttrendel at 2:24 AM on July 25, 2003

Why should I, we, or anyone change when there's a crowd involved
Only in that, when you have a large group of strangers listening in on your conversation, it may be better to keep in mind that they are there and consider their sensibilities.

On second thoughts, you are right. Provided you are speaking honestly, on topic and not attacking others personally (too much), you should be free to speak your mind, regardless of the circumstances.
posted by dg at 4:12 AM on July 25, 2003

Well, reading this made my morning! Thanks, guys! ;-P
posted by mischief at 5:25 AM on July 25, 2003

If everyone elevates their discourse then fewer incidents like this ought to happen. If you avoid insulting people then fewer insults get thrown your way (which explains, incidentally, my complaint a week or so ago against a member of our community that was met with a lot of "grow a thicker skin" comments -- I don't insult (much. anymore.) so I am taken aback when people do it to me.)

My advocacy is just to start banning everyone who is a dick. Give some advance warning, maybe have a temporary system, but the mean-spirited "loco" comments really drag down MeFi.
posted by norm at 6:36 AM on July 25, 2003

posted by insomnyuk at 6:38 AM on July 25, 2003

Insomnyuk, please grow up.

Skallas and I probably represent the polar opposites of metafilter, and we probably agree on almost nothing, but this constant pick-pick-pick on him is childish in the extreme, and I think it's time you stopped it.

Or eventually Matt will stop it for you. Oh, yes, he will.
posted by konolia at 6:53 AM on July 25, 2003

posted by insomnyuk at 6:57 AM on July 25, 2003

Wait a second, does konolia=bunnyfire? o_O;
posted by insomnyuk at 6:59 AM on July 25, 2003

Pathetic. You're begging to be banned, obviously, rarely as that happens here.

I hope you get your wish.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:05 AM on July 25, 2003

Is there a Mefi deadpool? I'd like to place a bet.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 7:07 AM on July 25, 2003

I have a question -- is there a way to read the "alt" text for insomnyuk's image files without having to go into the HTML source code?
posted by Tin Man at 7:10 AM on July 25, 2003

Tin Man: just hover over the image with your mouse. If you are using Mozilla however, you may need to enable it (don't know if that is possible). In Mozilla you can just right click the image and select properties, the alt text will come up.
posted by insomnyuk at 7:16 AM on July 25, 2003

In other news, General Francisco Franco is still dead.
posted by konolia at 7:22 AM on July 25, 2003

OK, +1 for comedy coding, but minus several million for transgressions numerous and clearly deliberate.

Let the mob decide (or, you know, the judicious wielder of the banhammer).
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posted by insomnyuk at 7:26 AM on July 25, 2003

(runs back up to table) make that TWENTY dollars!
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 7:33 AM on July 25, 2003

Suicide by police.
posted by crunchland at 7:40 AM on July 25, 2003

posted by insomnyuk at 7:43 AM on July 25, 2003

neuicide. Always perplexing.

Look, it's bad enough that people take the messy flameout route at all; let's not sit back here and goad him on, okay?

insomnyuk, I don't know what's going on with you, but take care I guess...

*backs away*
posted by tyro urge at 7:51 AM on July 25, 2003

"insomnyuk" gets spell checked into ignominy. Huh.
posted by tyro urge at 7:58 AM on July 25, 2003

Someone needs to sober up, pronto...
posted by i_cola at 8:00 AM on July 25, 2003

what tyro urge said. time to abandon thread and go pike fishing.
posted by stonerose at 8:06 AM on July 25, 2003

Stop with the image posting, it is a sure sign of idiocy, and even ruder than the blue language.
posted by thirteen at 8:09 AM on July 25, 2003

The Streets- The Irony Of It All

Hello, Hello. My names Terry and I'm a law abider
There's nothing I like more than getting fired up on beer
And when the weekends here I to exercise my right to get paralytic and fight
Good bloke fairly
But I get well leery when geezers look at me funny
Bounce 'em round like bunnies
I'm likely to cause mischief
Good clean grief you must believe and I ain't no thief.
Law abiding and all, all legal.
And who cares about my liver when it feels good
Wwhat you need is some real manhood.
Rasher Rasher Barney and Kasha putting peoples backs up.
Public disorder, I'll give you public disorder.
I down eight pints and run all over the place
Spit in the face of an officer
See if that bothers you cause I never broke a law in my life
Someday I'm gonna settle down with a wife
Come on lads lets have another fight

Eh hello. My names Tim and I'm a criminal,
In the eyes of society I need to be in jail
For the choice of herbs I inhale.
This ain't no wholesale operation
Just a few eighths and some Playstations my's vocation
I pose a threat to the nation
And down the station the police hold no patients
Let's talk space and time
I like to get deep sometimes and think about Einstein
And Carl Young And old Kung Fu movies I like to see
Pass the hydrator please
Yeah I'm floating on thin air.
Going to Amsterdam in the New Year - top gear there
Cause I taker pride in my hobby
Home made bongs using my engineering degree
Dear Leaders, please legalise weed for these reasons.

Like I was saying to him.
I told him: "Top with me and you won't leave."
So I smacked him in the head and downed another Carling
Bada Bada Bing for the lad's night.
Mad fight, his face's a sad sight.
Vodka and Snake Bite.
Going on like a right geez, he's a twat,
Shouldn't have looked at me like that.
Anyway I'm an upstanding citizen
If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.
Can't stand crime either them hooligans on heroin.
Drugs and criminals those thugs on the penny coloured will be the downfall of society
I've got all the anger pent up inside of me.

You know I don't see why I should be the criminal
How can something with no recorded fatalities be illegal
And how many deaths are there per year from alcohol
I just completed Gran Tourismo on the hardest setting
We pose no threat on my settee
Ooh the pizza's here will someone let him in please
"We didn't order chicken, Not a problem we'll pick it out
I doubt they meant to mess us about
After all we're all adults not louts."
As I was saying, we're friendly peaceful people
We're not the ones out there causing trouble.
We just sit in this hazy bubble with our quarters
Discussing how beautiful Gail Porter is.
MTV, BBC 2, Channel 4 is on until six in the morning.
Then at six in the morning the sun dawns and it's my bedtime.

Causing trouble, your stinking rabble
Boys saying I'm the lad who's spoiling it
You're on drugs it really bugs me when people try and tell me I'm a thug
Just for getting drunk
I like getting drunk
Cause I'm an upstanding citizen
If a war came along I'd be on the front line with em.

Now Terry you're repeating yourself
But that's okay drunk people can't help that.
A chemical reaction inside your brain causes you to forget what you're saying.

What. I know exactly what I'm saying
I'm perfectly sane
You stinking student lameo
Go get a job and stop robbing us of our taxes.

Err, well actually according to research
Government funding for further education pales in insignificance
When compared to how much they spend on repairing
Leery drunk people at the weekend
In casualty wards all over the land.

Why you cheeky little swine come here
I'm gonna batter you. Come here.
posted by insomnyuk at 8:10 AM on July 25, 2003

Wow, you must be so bored...
posted by SweetJesus at 8:13 AM on July 25, 2003

That's so cute; on a Mac it tells me I'm a loser in a word baloon.

thirteen, have you read this thread and figured out the point yet? I think it's been made clear that imsomnyuk's doing everything in his power to get banned.

That said, good call, stonerose. The fishing (for attention) in this thread got boring.
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 8:14 AM on July 25, 2003

/changes topic to pike fishing
posted by ginz at 8:26 AM on July 25, 2003

You see, insomnyuk is a kid. That's what everyone keeps forgetting. He's immensely hyperactive, and can't be expected to have any reasoned beliefs until he's got a little more life experience under his belt. What's to be gained from demanding that he define his terms and explain his position? He can't. That's been conclusively proven. He'd like to think he's earned a place among the thoughtful, respected conservatives in this forum, but as soon as he's pressed to clarify anything he says, he resorts to the online equivalent of drawing offensive pictures and labeling them with the names of the people who've challenged him.

Don't engage him. He is not going to calm down and shut up, and he's not going to get banned from the site, either. Let's just leave the poor little dear alone, now. Maybe when he's had some time to grow up a bit, he'll be able to offer some kind of contribution to the site? Stranger things have happened.
posted by Fenriss at 8:32 AM on July 25, 2003

Mom, Bart's Smoking!
posted by jonmc at 8:38 AM on July 25, 2003

As long as he's smoking the pike.
posted by ginz at 8:43 AM on July 25, 2003

Disappointing that Matt waved this away with a "can people chill the fuck out?" Wonder if he's checked back on the yukster's latest bout of thread-crapping...
posted by soyjoy at 8:56 AM on July 25, 2003

I don't think crapping in a MeTa thread is really as bad as crapping in a MeFi thread.

After all, MeTa is all about the crapping.
posted by bshort at 9:05 AM on July 25, 2003

Bizarrely (or fittingly), this metatalk thread has a parallel with the City Hall story that started it all.

For instance, this comment by crunchland I thought at first was referring to Mr. Askew. Before he left his house that day he "put his affairs in order" (NY Times link) and left a note for his brother, which implies that he planned on not coming back, which it turn implies that he thought he might get shot and killed in return for killing Mr. Davis.

Then I realized that crunchland was probably referring to insomnyuk's behavior and the mefi police.
posted by witchstone at 9:06 AM on July 25, 2003

I have a question -- is there a way to read the "alt" text for insomnyuk's image files without having to go into the HTML source code?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! three years ago you'd have been run out of here by a band of howling web designers for asking such an ignorant, um, uninformed question. fortunately, mefi has become a nicer place since then. hover your cursor over the photo. use the force, rather than view the source, luke! a whole new realm of the web is about to open for you.
posted by quonsar at 10:03 AM on July 25, 2003

pardon me while i bring in my elephant to piss on that last snark of mine, tin man.
posted by quonsar at 10:08 AM on July 25, 2003

you didn't deserve it.
posted by quonsar at 10:08 AM on July 25, 2003

anyone got a dictionary definition of liberal so an ESLer can understand?
posted by dabitch at 10:15 AM on July 25, 2003

just shoot me.



well, at least i have something to discuss with my $100/hour therapist thisafternoon.
posted by quonsar at 10:17 AM on July 25, 2003

It's cool, quonsar. I don't know how I've surfed the Web for eight years without ever knowing this.

(Holy crap. Eight years?)
posted by Tin Man at 10:26 AM on July 25, 2003

I would just like to thank everyone who has made this thread possible, the attention has been like free therapy, which apparently I need a lot of.

Love,

insomnyuk
posted by insomnyuk at 10:36 AM on July 25, 2003

quonsar and Tin Man, how are we supposed to be entertained if you act all reasonable and solve your differences like adults? I was all set to post a pony request for MeTaTa, so we could deal with etiquette problems arising in MeTa. Off to point my webcam at my monitor, instead. ;-)
posted by stonerose at 10:39 AM on July 25, 2003

Insomnyuk, this isn't a support group, as a search of the archives will confirm.
posted by konolia at 11:01 AM on July 25, 2003

I have a question -- is there a way to read the "alt" text for insomnyuk's image files without having to go into the HTML source code?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! three years ago you'd have been run out of here by a band of howling web designers for asking such an ignorant, um, uninformed question. fortunately, mefi has become a nicer place since then. hover your cursor over the photo. use the force, rather than view the source, luke! a whole new realm of the web is about to open for you.

This howling web designer thinks that that's the wrong use for the alt attribute, which is only intended to be seen in the absence of the image. insomnyuk should be using "title".
posted by timeistight at 11:08 AM on July 25, 2003

This howling web designer thinks that that's the wrong use for the alt attribute, which is only intended to be seen in the absence of the image. insomnyuk should be using "title".

Safari 1.0, often correct to a fault, agrees with you: alt text isn't visible.
posted by stonerose at 11:12 AM on July 25, 2003

Insomnyuk, this isn't a support group, as a search of the archives will confirm.

Sure it is. Just, you know, one o' them tough love ones. ;-)
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 11:12 AM on July 25, 2003

I used title on the last one -__-
posted by insomnyuk at 11:15 AM on July 25, 2003

insomnyuk... have you ever freaked out in Meta,

ON WEEEEEED ?
posted by Witty at 11:51 AM on July 25, 2003

Mozilla also displays the title attribute on mouseover, but not alt.
posted by turbodog at 11:56 AM on July 25, 2003

I <3 insomnyuk.
posted by angry modem at 11:56 AM on July 25, 2003

You're less than three insomnyuks?
posted by timeistight at 12:05 PM on July 25, 2003

Off to point my webcam at my monitor, instead.

My brain hurts.
posted by Tin Man at 12:39 PM on July 25, 2003

posted by insomnyuk at 12:49 PM on July 25, 2003

insomnyuk, chill out for a week, then send me an email and you'll be able to post again.
posted by mathowie at 1:11 PM on July 25, 2003

If I'm ever on trial for something bad, I hope Matt is on the jury.
posted by dhoyt at 1:25 PM on July 25, 2003 [1 favorite]

hmmmm 12 angry geeks..........
posted by sgt.serenity at 1:42 PM on July 25, 2003

we are supposed to be judged by our peers. dang straight i'd want 12 angry geeks on the jury. ;)
posted by dabitch at 1:52 PM on July 25, 2003

I work about 6 feet from Dan's (insomnyuk) workstation. If you need me to snap a couple of rubber bands or pelt a few Mountain Dew cans his way, I'm your man.
posted by aaronshaf at 2:01 PM on July 25, 2003

the penalty box can be a lonely place.
posted by quonsar at 2:17 PM on July 25, 2003

I <3 insomnyuk.

you buttocks insomnyuk?????
posted by quonsar at 2:23 PM on July 25, 2003

no, he double scoop ice cream cones insomnyuk

guh!
posted by amberglow at 3:05 PM on July 25, 2003

If you need me to snap a couple of rubber bands or pelt a few Mountain Dew cans his way, I'm your man.

Tell him he makes the baby jesus cry when he goes off the deep end like that.
posted by mathowie at 3:29 PM on July 25, 2003

Tell him he makes the baby jesus cry when he goes off the deep end like that.

Well, a lecture from aaronshaf is indeed likely to have a generous sprinkling of Jesus in it.
posted by stonerose at 3:45 PM on July 25, 2003

mmmm.....less than three insomnyuk buttock sprinkles on a double scoop ice cream cone.....
posted by poopy at 4:40 PM on July 25, 2003

Aaronshaf, the time for the rubber bands was when he started this stuff to begin with...don't worry about the barn door now. (on the other hand, if you make it Sierra Mist, let the flinging begin.)
posted by konolia at 5:04 PM on July 25, 2003

Oh, and Aaronshaf, from a cursory look at your blog, it strikes me that you might be interested in this.

Not quite my flavor, but interesting nevertheless.
posted by konolia at 5:11 PM on July 25, 2003

insomnyuk is now serving a seven-day sentence in Haughey State Prison, cleaning up after quonsar's pig. Let this be a lesson to all of you: Crime Does Not Pay. This has been another episode of MeFi Meltdown: When Posters Go Bad. *cue closing theme, run credits*
posted by languagehat at 2:19 PM on July 26, 2003

For more details check smokinggunfilter.
posted by konolia at 2:59 PM on July 26, 2003

Clearly, the events of the last few days have not been kind to insomnyuk's once youthful visage...


posted by stonerose at 3:25 PM on July 26, 2003

Insomnyuk rawks.
posted by hama7 at 5:41 PM on July 26, 2003

Insomnyuk Buttock Sprinkles™
ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!

i'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.
i'd like to buy the world a jar of insomnyuk buttock sprinkles.
you thought this was going to be that coke song, didn't you?
posted by quonsar at 5:51 PM on July 26, 2003

You thought this was going to be that coke song, didn't you?

quonsar, no MeFite would ever expect anything so commercial as that from you. Though the level of unexpectedness might mean you would do it just for the zagness. Then we would never, ever be not surprised by you again.
posted by billsaysthis at 8:23 PM on July 26, 2003

Will Insomnyuk Buttock Sprinkles get stuck in your unclefucking fuckwit slender douchebag?
posted by XQUZYPHYR at 2:09 PM on July 27, 2003

I don't think crapping in a MeTa thread is really as bad as crapping in a MeFi thread.


I agree. I would prefer no crapping at all but if one must crap I hope they do it in here rather than in a Mefi thread. It takes time before a new Metafilter user finds Metatalk so hopefully they can discover the rich treasures to be found in Metafilter posts before they are exposed to cyber-suicides like the one we just witnessed here.

After all, MeTa is all about the crapping.

And here I was thinking that the default colors of MetaFilter and MetaTalk represented sky and earth.

Ew. :)
posted by cup at 9:05 PM on July 27, 2003

shut the fuck up.
posted by angry modem at 10:05 AM on August 21, 2003

oh yeah?
posted by bshort at 10:27 AM on August 21, 2003