McWhat?

November 8, 2003 11:40 PM

Oh no, Mc____ ! - gratuitious, sure - but it's so McFuckingFun™ !
posted by troutfishing to MetaFilter-Related at 11:40 PM (128 comments total)

I just don't know about this.

/flagellates self
posted by dhoyt at 11:57 PM on November 8, 2003

And to think all this time I've been resisting starting metatalk threads to point out what I feel are my posting highlights. All systems go.
posted by The God Complex at 12:58 AM on November 9, 2003

McTroutFishing, you McFucked up the McLink. McDork!
posted by quonsar at 12:58 AM on November 9, 2003

Troutfishing: please explain to me what this thread is supposed to achieve. And also please explain what your comment was supposed to achieve in that thread. I am very confused by what has been going on in "Metatalk" recently and if it is all just a joke, can somebody please explain it before I go insane?
posted by mokey at 2:24 AM on November 9, 2003

Seconded. What the fuck are you people thinking?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:46 AM on November 9, 2003

or McThinking™ as the case may be.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:48 AM on November 9, 2003

dear McGod,

i am very confizzled by what has been going on in the wizzle recently and if it is all just a jizzle, can somebody please expizzle it before i go insizzle?

your McLoving McServant,

quizzle tee-em
posted by quonsar at 3:18 AM on November 9, 2003

What the fuck are you people thinking?

it's the drugs, awesome rooster. you need better drugs.
posted by quonsar at 3:23 AM on November 9, 2003

Question here: Is anyone else noticing something odd about troutfishing's broken link? Opera sends me to some paysforsurveys.com site, MozFirebird sends me to google.ca, and IE6 (which I'd normally suspect as most likely to be exploited by spyware, etc) gives me the standard error page. Odd.

Oh, all right, McOdd. I'm not lovin' it. (tm)
posted by arto at 3:46 AM on November 9, 2003

you need better drugs.

Truer words have rarely been spoken.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:54 AM on November 9, 2003

Okay I'm now insane. From now on I am going to post nonsense in every thread. Let's see how they like that. Wait, did I just think that, or post it?
posted by mokey at 5:16 AM on November 9, 2003

arto - i see the pays for surveys thing as well, on mozilla. i don't understand why.
posted by andrew cooke at 6:14 AM on November 9, 2003

in fact any http://http://foo style link does, too. wazup?
posted by andrew cooke at 6:15 AM on November 9, 2003

shit. that is one sweet money making hack. the 404 page for the site www.http.com is a redirection to the pays for surveys place.

so any url that is incorrect but mangles to something a browser guesses is http.com will be redirected... i wonder if baltazar partners (whois) simply got lucky?
posted by andrew cooke at 6:23 AM on November 9, 2003

I just hope none of you guys'll have the gall to complain when Haughey shuts down this site
posted by matteo at 6:46 AM on November 9, 2003

McStupid.
posted by rushmc at 6:49 AM on November 9, 2003

Why would he shut it down? It's paying for itself. Besides, I think he has come to view MeFi/MeTalk as his own little controlled social experiment and we are his caged lab rats.
posted by mischief at 7:43 AM on November 9, 2003

[this is bad]
posted by adampsyche at 8:16 AM on November 9, 2003

what's the matter with having a lotta "mc" in your life?
posted by jonmc at 9:59 AM on November 9, 2003

troutfishing should be McBanned. There, I McSaid it.
posted by billsaysthis at 10:51 AM on November 9, 2003

That is the fucking stupidest thread I've seen in a while.
posted by Hildago at 11:08 AM on November 9, 2003

if it is all just a joke, can somebody please explain it before I go insane?

dear McGod,

Dear McGod,

If it is all just a joke, can somebody please explain it before I go insane?

...ah, forget it. I'm too flu'ed out to be riffing on an old XTC song...
posted by Shane at 12:10 PM on November 9, 2003

I think he has come to view MeFi/MeTalk as his own little controlled social experiment and we are his caged lab rats.

That reminds me, where has jonson been lately? I miss his "social experiments" and they'd fit right in w/ current MeTa.
posted by Shane at 12:14 PM on November 9, 2003

Oi Oi Oi!
posted by homunculus at 12:57 PM on November 9, 2003

I'm on my ninth straight 12-hour day at the office.

McTittyFuck!!

(Full apologies, but somehow shouting that made me feel better. Back to Photoshop.)
posted by jalexei at 2:58 PM on November 9, 2003

*stares aghast at the state of the site he loves so*

Have a nice life folks.
posted by dg at 3:10 PM on November 9, 2003

why apologize jalexei? how in the world could McTittyFuck derail a thread that encourages it?

hey troutfishing, this is fun!

McButtFuck, McPencilDick, McBrainFuck, McFuckFuck.
posted by poopy at 3:30 PM on November 9, 2003

dg: Are you saying MetaFilter is imploding? Is this... goodbye?

Hildago: No, this is the fucking stupidest thread I've seen in a while. Or at least since the other day.
posted by languagehat at 3:48 PM on November 9, 2003

what's the matter with having a lotta "mc" in your life?

Not everyone can handle the mc, jon.
posted by rushmc at 4:17 PM on November 9, 2003

Not everyone wants to handle the mc, jon and rush.

As I'm sure you two have already discovered.
posted by orange swan at 4:55 PM on November 9, 2003

Not everyone wants to handle the mc, jon and rush.

Well, the mc mojo is strong, ladies...
posted by jonmc at 5:51 PM on November 9, 2003

NOT this mc mojo....
posted by rushmc at 6:11 PM on November 9, 2003

You can't handle the mc!
posted by mcwetboy at 6:57 PM on November 9, 2003

Tomorrow night -- 11PM PST: it was the best of me, it was the worst of me: an in-depth dissection of my posting history, from acerbic ball-busting rhetoric and hilarious spelling and grammar gaffes to quizzical indecipherable "jokes".

What the fuck are you people thinking?

Don't ask questions that can't be satisfactorily answered. Just shut up and dance.
posted by The God Complex at 7:32 PM on November 9, 2003

MetaFilter: What the fuck are you people thinking?

Oh c'mon, someone had to do it
posted by yhbc at 8:03 PM on November 9, 2003

*drops to floor and does the 'gator'*
posted by quonsar at 8:11 PM on November 9, 2003

ed, we are all shooting blanks in MeTa threads.

Considering my personal use of "Mc" as an often-needed euphemism, "McFuck" seems somewhat redundant to me. What the Mc are you people thinking?

*drops to floor and does the 'badger'*
posted by wendell at 1:18 AM on November 10, 2003

posted by quonsar at 2:17 AM on November 10, 2003

McTurition.
posted by Opus Dark at 3:58 AM on November 10, 2003

I like dogs.
posted by Witty at 4:25 AM on November 10, 2003

I like cats.
posted by dabitch at 7:08 AM on November 10, 2003

I like pancakes.
posted by pizzasub at 8:08 AM on November 10, 2003

I'm just waiting for the meetup photographs and all the gossip.
posted by ginz at 8:40 AM on November 10, 2003

ed, we are all shooting blanks in MeTa threads

Speak for yourself, ed.
posted by orange swan at 9:03 AM on November 10, 2003

Wendell. I meant Wendell.
posted by orange swan at 9:04 AM on November 10, 2003

OK, It was an McFucking idiotic thread.....or a McTempest in a McTeapot?

You know, the best way to discourage annoying behavior is generally to ignore it.....in my case that's not true (I actually try to listen to criticism) but what I find funny here in retrospect is that fact that my idiotic thread was on Metatalk - at least I kept it (mostly) out of the blue, but where do you go to complain/heap opprobrium on a bad Metatalk thread - MetaMetaTalk? TransMetaTalk? SupraMetaTalk?

Oy Vey - I wish I could just flush out this awful thread from Metafilter with a healthy dose of MetaMucil™

I'll just have to do a hundred hail Matt's and 56 in-the-blue pages of sober multihyperlinked commentary on the pressing issues of our day.
posted by troutfishing at 10:46 AM on November 10, 2003

I'll just have to do a hundred hail Matt's

Hail Matt's what?

and 56 in-the-blue pages of sober multihyperlinked commentary on the pressing issues of our day.

Please don't.
posted by timeistight at 10:52 AM on November 10, 2003

I meant Wendell.

You meant well.

One question: Is McGriddler the kid on grill duty for the breakfast shift, or an ingenious piece of product placement in the next Batman movie?

One more question: Is McMuffy the kid on toaster duty for the breakfast shift or a slayer of creatures of the night who suck on triple-thick shakes?

Or as they said at the first frog-owned McDonald's, "You want flies with that?"

Hey look! I just turned 17,000 MeFi members into Grimaces!

Personally, I think the quality of this thread fits very well with the Junk Food & Junk Jobs topic, and I am happy to contribute.

P.S.: MetaFilter has Golden Arches too, but Matt wears corrective shoes.
posted by wendell at 12:30 PM on November 10, 2003

Someone's punny.

I have to be in the right mood to appreciate that. Fortunately I just od'd on a co-workers' left over Hallowe'en candy, so I am.

Man, why did my ancestors have to drop the Mac off my surname a few centuries back...
posted by orange swan at 12:42 PM on November 10, 2003

orange swan - I blame it on the candy too. I never eat it or have the stuff around but there was this pile of leftover Halloween candy chunks, all chocolatey and gooey, it was late at night, and I just kept eating and eating it....

....and then I posted to Metafilter!

So I blame society.
posted by troutfishing at 1:52 PM on November 10, 2003

Where is mischief comment on this, it's his post being discussed here : seems of last meta-talk threads posted & explained by the same member, Mcself-talk:)
posted by thomcatspike at 4:50 PM on November 10, 2003

Let's see:

[a] troutfishing makes a clever comment in MeFi thread
[b] gloats about it in MeTalk

Conclusion:

This joke wrote itself.

If this was a call-out, I didn't interpret it as such.

Then again, if this was a call-out, I wouldn't give a fuck. ;-P
posted by mischief at 5:16 PM on November 10, 2003

seems of last meta-talk threads posted & explained by the same member, Mcself-talk:)

Finally figured it out. You're Warlock, right?
posted by yerfatma at 6:13 PM on November 10, 2003

my idiotic thread

Tattoo that on your forehead backwards, paisan, and don't do it again, or we'll hafta send Rocco around to break your freakin' kneecaps.

Just shut up and dance.

I only chair-dance, since that episode with the strippers, the car antenna, and the electric razor. But, hell, pass me a beverage and I'll see what I can do.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:40 PM on November 10, 2003

I think yer all fucking high. No wait - that's me. Never mind.
posted by sharpener at 9:10 PM on November 10, 2003

An Orange McSwan sounds like some kind of limited edition McDonalds burger created espcially for the British Royal Family

Is this related somehow to these scurrilous rumours that are currently plaguing poor Charles?
posted by urban greeting at 4:13 AM on November 11, 2003

posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:30 AM on November 11, 2003

Can I get a "what what"?
posted by Witty at 6:47 AM on November 11, 2003

McSwan burgers? Now that's surreal. But you never know. I have friend who are from Nairobi, Kenya, and they told me there's a restaurant there called the Carnivore where one can get any kind of meat - giraffe, zebra, etc. Maybe they serve swan too.

Prince Charles is definitely swanning in that photo. Perhaps it's code for "Camilla, you wear the Swan costume tonight. I'll be Leda."
posted by orange swan at 6:56 AM on November 11, 2003

"Why, you cheeky, absolutely darling little orange pip!"
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:02 AM on November 11, 2003

psst, witty

I never bought that whole Camilla "I want to be your tampon" thing anyway--she's his beard, i guess.
posted by amberglow at 7:38 AM on November 11, 2003

That swanning photo is priceless Miguel.
posted by ginz at 8:26 AM on November 11, 2003

amberglow: Thank you! I've been waiting and waiting for a MeFi thread about the Charles scandal (and wondering why US papers are so coy about it); finally the word is out.

Miguel, you are a master of the appropriate photo.

Did somebody mention... pancakes?
posted by languagehat at 8:35 AM on November 11, 2003

Okay then, I'm now looking for a picture of President Bush (or as I prefer to call him, "Skippy W. Bush Kangaroo") in a pose that looks very very gay. (I'm thinking there must be some reason he still keeps Rumsfeld around) I know I've seen W. with the same facial expression as Migs' Prince Charles pics on more than one occasion... or is it just the ears? (The good news is I've seen no evidence that Dean or Clark can make the same expression at all... Kerry sometimes seems like he's working hard NOT to look like that)
posted by wendell at 9:31 AM on November 11, 2003

Orange Swan: I have friend who are from Nairobi, Kenya, and they told me there's a restaurant there called the Carnivore where one can get any kind of meat - giraffe, zebra, etc. Maybe they serve swan too.

I'm from Nairobi too, and it's absolutely true - any sort of game meat (but I've never had swan). Been selected as one of the best 50 restaurants in the world by Restaurant Magazine

/National Pride
posted by darsh at 9:51 AM on November 11, 2003

To further clear up any lingering confusion let me attempt to explain: The idea of a Orange McSwan burger was in reaction to this comment. The connection to Chuckles and Co. stemmed from my (perhaps incorrect) belief that it in Britain it is illegal to kill or eat swans unless you are part of the royal family (thus the very limited demographic for any such swan burger).

A quick google on the subject proved inconclusive, but it did turn up this:

The mysterious bond that exists between man and swan stretches back into antiquity and is celebrated in countless European myths and fairytales, but the mute swan's original value to our ancestors was more down-to-earth. From early times in Britain swans were kept in a semi-domesticated state as a source of food .......... In fact swans were such valuable commodities that by the end of the Middle Ages they were being marked as belonging to the Church or noblemen by special nicks carved onto their bills or feet. These identifying marks were registered with the Crown under the supervision of the Royal Swan Master, and all unmarked birds were considered property of the monarch. It was illegal to kill a 'royal' bird, and this may well have saved the species from being hunted to extinction in Britain.

Oh, and Is there any better job title in the world than 'Royal Swan Master'?
posted by urban greeting at 10:11 AM on November 11, 2003

orange swan, you probably don't have much to fear from McDonalds, but I'd advise you to stay away from the Guild of Food Writers.
posted by taz at 10:18 AM on November 11, 2003

posted by quonsar at 10:56 AM on November 11, 2003

[Slams head repeatedly against keyboard in order to rid mind of imaginings involving being eaten by any member of the British Royals.]

Oh, and Is there any better job title in the world than 'Royal Swan Master'?

I was just thinking that would make a great MeFi user name. Not that I'm in any hurry to be mastered. Not that anyone could necessarily do so.

Taz, if any food writers come my way, I'm giving them stavrosthewonderchicken's number. I bet he'd look way more interesting on a platter than I would.
posted by orange swan at 11:01 AM on November 11, 2003

posted by MiguelCardoso at 1:28 PM on November 11, 2003

Rummy's indicating the size of his manhood, and explaining that's why he likes shooting missiles and dropping bombs so much ; >
posted by amberglow at 1:34 PM on November 11, 2003

Y'know, I think this errr...discussion I sparked by spewing a self stroking blorp into Metatalk has suggested a legitimate Metatalk thread to me:

Seems to me that Mefi members need random threads on Metatalk to just do what they do best...whatever that is, of course.

It might be thought of as sort of like those welcome holidays of yore - in more inventive cultures - which used role reversals or those which just gave people a chance to run amok, as in Mardi Gras.

I can see the first post: "MetaTalk runs amok......#1"
posted by troutfishing at 2:17 PM on November 11, 2003

No.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:12 PM on November 11, 2003

trout, that would be more correctly labelled: MetaTalk runs amok.....#3662"
posted by wendell at 6:39 PM on November 11, 2003

...but at least it'd be better than "MetaTalk Gone Wild". (You do NOT want to see me topless, trust me.)

And thanks for the photographic evidence q & Migs. (However, Rummy looks more like he's been processed through an old Kai's Power Goo utility or something...)
posted by wendell at 6:42 PM on November 11, 2003

"Power Goo"

Are you being punny? Because I think that's actually a pretty good nickname for the present cast of power mongrels...
posted by taz at 8:40 PM on November 11, 2003

"Power Goo"

Are you being punny? Because I think that's actually a pretty good nickname for the present cast of power mongrels...
posted by taz at 8:40 PM on November 11, 2003

Awww, a real double-post. Brings back memories, that. Remember when... *goes all misty-eyed*... Thanks taz! ;)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:12 PM on November 11, 2003

There's no double post there, Miguel. You must be seeing things. You must be seeing things.
posted by taz at 10:47 PM on November 11, 2003

metafilter : something of a childrens playground.

dont let the door hit your arse on the way out : )
posted by sgt.serenity at 7:05 AM on November 12, 2003

<neener/>
posted by quonsar at 12:22 PM on November 12, 2003

Well, OK, but just this once.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:58 PM on November 12, 2003

Seems to me that Mefi members need random threads on Metatalk to just do what they do best...whatever that is, of course.

That's what the IRC channel is for: to chat. Please don't use MetaTalk as your personal venting and chat area.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:15 PM on November 12, 2003

network: irc.metafilter.com / irc.turlyming.com
channel: #mefi

clients:

xchat - mirc
posted by angry modem at 2:21 PM on November 12, 2003

Matt, I've always wondered why posts to MetaTalk weren't on an approval basis. I understand why MetaFilter is a free-for-all, it works well that way, but MetaTalk posts are really site suggestions/problems that should be directed at you.

I know you don't have all the time in the world to admin this site, but wouldn't it be better for posts in MetaTalk to appear only if you think that they warrant discussion by the community? What about a /. or plastic.com style queue that let you seperate between problems you could address, problems the community should address and shit that doesn't belong here.

It would get rid of the chattiness of the section, I'd think.
posted by eyeballkid at 2:24 PM on November 12, 2003

Yeah, good point ebk. It wouldn't be too hard to do, and it would definitely limit the posts to real pressing issues and problems at hand.

I don't even read half of the posts at MetaTalk, and I'm constantly surprised that many get 100+ comments in a matter of hours.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 3:19 PM on November 12, 2003

hey! ebk! nice shoes, man!
posted by quonsar at 3:20 PM on November 12, 2003

:: curses mathowie for making eyeballkid's suggestion official ::
posted by filmgoerjuan at 3:24 PM on November 12, 2003

Well, until then, post away, peoples! ;-P
posted by mischief at 3:35 PM on November 12, 2003

I don't even read half of the posts at MetaTalk, and I'm constantly surprised that many get 100+ comments in a matter of hours.

Perhaps some people find issues of community more interesting than you do. Metatalk is, ostensibly at least, a place to discuss issues of the community. I don't think it necessarily follows that this means only pressing issues are up for discussion.

I'm certainly all for the deletion of pointless metatalk threads, but I don't think limiting it strictly to grievous issues of etiquette and technical glitches is necessary. The occasional how-do-you-feel-about-this thread doesn't hurt anyone, appeals to what is apparently a healthy number of people who post here, and would be easy enough to curtail if it became to rampant.
posted by The God Complex at 4:16 PM on November 12, 2003

+o
posted by The God Complex at 4:17 PM on November 12, 2003

Perhaps some people find issues of community more interesting than you do.

Whoa. Step the fuck back, there, TGC, mate. Not only has the senseless chatter already become rampant, and annoying in the extreme, but think about who you're talking to, son.

I hate to be seen as kissing the boss's butt here, but come on. If you (or most everyone else here) have credentials that display interest in 'issues of community' that are anything approaching the gravitas of Matt's (noting along the way the light touch and lessons learned in how he's managed to guide this ship of fools for 4 years and more now), I'd love to see them.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:31 PM on November 12, 2003

Even more Haughey community-chops linkage.

So there.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:35 PM on November 12, 2003

I'm talking about some of the more frivilous inanities--as some people may seem them--of communities that someone like Miguel likes to discuss (you know, why people act certain ways, how it affects them); that sort of thing. In retrospect, I probably phrased it poorly, but I think my point is sound. Mr. Haughey obviously isn't as interested in this, as he commented on keeping these issues to "pressing" ones.

Also, I'll make clear that I'm separating pointless, self-referential threads about McJokes, and simple questions for other members that would be better reserved for e-mails, from the aforementioned trivialities of community that some of us might be interested in. I would support a harsher approach to the moderation of the former (time willing), but I don't think the latter is all bad.

I'm sure some of you disagree, and I'm thoroughly ok with that ;)
posted by The God Complex at 4:41 PM on November 12, 2003

Oh, and I think you might have read the wrong tone into my first post, as I seem to have ommitted a question mark from my opening comment (for whatever reason). I meant to pose it as such, not condescendingly. Hopefully that clears things up.
posted by The God Complex at 4:44 PM on November 12, 2003

I'm having a hard time seeing the difference between not approving a post and deleting it after it's been posted.
posted by timeistight at 4:56 PM on November 12, 2003

I think you might have read the wrong tone into my first post

Fair enough. And now my unseemly Haughey-lovin' is all out in the open and stuff. How embarrassing.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:05 PM on November 12, 2003

Maybe I wasn't clear before but I'm interested in the whys and hows of the community, it's just that threads often speak to those goals after 15 or 20 posts, and after 50, you'd be lucky if it's not some total goof-off thread like this one.

I can delete any post I want, and I seldom do because there is at least some merit to most of them in the original form, though whenever I'm away for a couple days I'm surprised at the ones that do get posted and get commented on. My point is that much of metatalk is now just chating and making jokes or posting funny photos and that's healthy for the small devoted fans of the community that engage in it, but I don't think those types of posts speak ot any larger community needs or goals.

I guess at the most basic level, I'm seeing several metatalk threads a week become the 1142 and 9622 threads and even though those former fun zones spun off their own communities, and IRC has lended a real-time play area to the site, there's still a high level of chattiness going on. It seems there needs to be a third "parlor" type place for people to interact, or I need to make the IRC area more prominent or something.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 5:37 PM on November 12, 2003

*starts cheering wilding for the brand new, shiny Teepee-Teepee*

* Third Parlor Type Place
posted by MiguelCardoso at 6:21 PM on November 12, 2003

That's a fair assessment, Matt, but it's hard to strike a balance between all-out academic prose and having some sort of bond with fellow members, isn't it? I mean, I suppose some people would be perfectly happy if we stuck strictly to hardline logical arguments and agreements, but there are some of us (I assume I'm not the only one) who enjoy that personal touch, or the occasional comedic relief.

The parlor idea is certainly an interesting one, one that I've actually considered before. It would be interesting--of that there is no doubt. But I wonder, would it take anything away from this site (both blue and grey, respectively)? When a thread in the grey degenerates (or evolves) into an occasionally mindless, but sometimes funny, back-and-forth, does it actually depreciate the value of what was originally discussed?

Also, I'll reiterate something I've said before: I'd be all for the axing of threads such as this one, which crop up when you're off for the weekend or whathaveyou, even if they've already eclipsed the century mark.
posted by The God Complex at 6:41 PM on November 12, 2003

I'd love a MetaChat, third parlour page. I've just never been able to get comfortable in IRC.
posted by timeistight at 6:48 PM on November 12, 2003

The benefits of a page over a chat system are numerous. For one, it allows a wider portion of the membership to read the comment, including those in different timezones who maintain a different MF schedule.
posted by The God Complex at 6:55 PM on November 12, 2003

I too am not comfortable in IRC. Tried it, wasn't comfortable. I like it here. But a parlor would be fine.
*reserves armchair, bottle of Lagavulin*
posted by languagehat at 7:08 PM on November 12, 2003

after 50, you'd be lucky if it's not some total goof-off thread like this one

Yeah, but... Yeah, but... Yeah, but...

Look what this one turned into at comment 100!
posted by mischief at 7:35 PM on November 12, 2003

I suspect the level of chattiness versus serious discussion on MetaFilter closely parallels the majority's sense of stress/discomfort/concern with their lives and/or the global situation.

In other words, when it's looking most dark and dire and the shit is gonna hit the fan, we get more serious ... or we get more silly. I'm not sure which.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:26 PM on November 12, 2003

I'd really like to see a MetaParlour. Just think about it - no more complaints about the misuse of MeTa. Or fewer anyway. It would make MeTa easier to monitor, and I'd think a MetaParlour wouldn't take much monitoring because it would be an anything goes sort of place where MeFites can just have fun. Or have some really bitchin' pun wars. In any case it's plain the MeFi kids need a backyard in which to run wild or they'll just keep trashing the interior of the house. Not that I'm pointing fingers. I've broken my share of lamps.
posted by orange swan at 7:12 AM on November 13, 2003

As discretely suggested by orange swan, there absolutely must be a U in Parlour, though. Otherwise, I'm against it.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:19 AM on November 13, 2003

how about MetaDen?
posted by amberglow at 8:36 AM on November 13, 2003

You're fighting human nature any time you try to compartmentalize human thought. Play is a big part of any human interaction. I'm not saying that Metafilter is the place for it; just that it won't neatly go away just because it's not welcome.

(When the server is hosted in France, maybe, Miguel!)
posted by rushmc at 9:48 AM on November 13, 2003

Brainstorming suggestions here:

MetaLockerRoom

MetaBoudoir

MetaSalon

MetaBackAlley

MetaLounge

MetaNook

MetaRumpusRoom

MetaCellar

MetaAnteroom

MetaGallery

MetaPeanutGallery

MetaMezzanine

MetaLevee

MetaAtrium

MetaForum

MetaCranny

MetaSanctum

MetaCommons

MetaCavity

I'm sure I could come up with more, but as that last one suggests, it's probably all down here from here.

Gallantly as we may fight for "our" cause, Migs, I'm sure Matt will decide in favour of MetaParlor if it comes to that. But all is not lost. I cling to my Canadian/British spellings of things in my own comments, no matter how many times the spell checker may try to correct me in its smarmy, ethnocentric American way.

Oh, and rush, I do think the creation of a open chat area would help clean up MeTa just as MeTa has helped clean up the blue. It won't be perfect but it will be better. We can handle compartmentalization, it's just that the appropriate compartments need to be there.
posted by orange swan at 10:01 AM on November 13, 2003

I like MetaCellar.

But already I'm looking forward to the first MetaParlour post suggesting a new area be created - a no-holes-barred MetaCage, where anything goes - to clean up the pink*, which cleaned up the grey that cleaned up the blue.

*MetaParlour's got to be pink, right?
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:22 AM on November 13, 2003

MetAbattoir?
posted by mischief at 10:35 AM on November 13, 2003

Damn, mischief, I thought I had all the good ones.

Migs, if we go with a "no-holes-barred MetaCage" I don't think I'll be visiting it. I expect people to respect my holes.

But as an Visual Arts (part-time) student, perhaps I can suggest some good colours:

A MetaParlour would definitely have to be pink - let's say a nice tasteful rose tone.

MetAbattoir would have to be blood red.

MetaRumpusRoom would have to be Shag Carpeting Green.

MetaCavity would probably be black.
posted by orange swan at 10:50 AM on November 13, 2003

I'd be more than willing to contribute Metalifter.com to be the MetaParlour. I'm currently seriously underutilizing the bandwidth on my hosting account that encompasses it AND WendellWit.com. I already set up a MeFi-like front page (in brown) to use, but the Comments function in my non-standard blogging software (Nucleus CMS) has near-fatal bugs in handling HTML and timestamping. And we'll need a way to manage membership... Administrator, please hope me!
All I ask is the right to put up the first topic: What questions should appear on a "MetaFilter Purity Test"?
posted by wendell at 11:12 AM on November 13, 2003

We can handle compartmentalization, it's just that the appropriate compartments need to be there.

It's the lack of presence of all compartments that I was referring to, so I agree. Even a tech support site develops some aspects of community over time, and they don't set out to define themselves as a "community" from the outset.

I'd be more than willing to contribute Metalifter.com to be the MetaParlour [sic].

Unless it could be integrated with Metafilter as closely as MetaTalk, I don't think this would serve the intended function. We've seen that such spin-off sites don't work. 9622, IRC, TribeNet...only a few dedicated folks ever make it over there, and fewer stay around. If it did get the official tie-in of official blessing, however, it might become popular enough to have the desired effect.
posted by rushmc at 12:59 PM on November 13, 2003

I was thinking it's like organizing a closet or a room in your home. I have a junk drawer in my kitchen for all the extra stuff that is really useful but that doesn't belong anywhere else. Maybe if there got to be too much of one kind of thing, I'd have to move it to a cabinet or a shelf in the laundry room. That's sort of what's happened to MeTa - it has a definite purpose, but other stuff has clogged it up. So, it's a good idea to transfer some of that stuff to another drawer of its own. And people will respect that organization fairly well.

Oh yeah. It needs to be on the menu to work. I didn't even know about IRC until mathowie mentioned it above.

And the [sic] is very cute, rushie.
posted by orange swan at 1:17 PM on November 13, 2003

A lurker named Jeremy has emailed me to suggest "MetaPlayground" and "MetaSandbox".
posted by orange swan at 3:29 PM on November 13, 2003

MetaCatbox?
posted by mischief at 3:52 PM on November 13, 2003

MetaCatbox it is!
posted by amberglow at 4:27 PM on November 13, 2003

I kind of like "MetaGarten", but I don't think many are going to follow me there...
posted by taz at 5:15 PM on November 13, 2003

So who gets to clean out the Catbox?
posted by languagehat at 5:15 PM on November 13, 2003

I once had three cats, hat, which required me to clean the catbox so often that I had to quit my job. (So, not me. And jinx on the duplicate time stamp, btw.)
posted by taz at 5:21 PM on November 13, 2003

Wasn't Mr. Jinx a cat in an early Hanna-Barbera cartoon?

And, since Matt tends to ignore very long MeTa threads, shouldn't somebody tell him the direction(s) we've taken his "parlor" suggestion since he made it?
posted by wendell at 5:54 PM on November 13, 2003

we'll just get one of these (love the space-age design too)
posted by amberglow at 5:56 PM on November 13, 2003

Jinks: "I hate those meeces to pieces!"
posted by amberglow at 5:59 PM on November 13, 2003

look! It's Jinx! The patron cat of duplicate time stamps and synchronous comments!
posted by taz at 6:10 PM on November 13, 2003

Separated at birth?
posted by arto at 12:43 AM on November 14, 2003

When my ex had the cat colony (well over 50 cats), I bought a kid's wading pool and filled it with 500 pounds of sand.
posted by mischief at 7:00 AM on November 14, 2003