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Every e-mail discussion list, Web bulletin board and group blog is an example of collective intelligence at work. Do you want to know where "memes" start? Try the group blogs www.metafilter.com and boingboing.net...

From Online Diary: A Last Look at Web Destinations (NYT)

He checks in with two blogs every day -- Boing Boing and MetaFilter -- which feature content from multiple bloggers and provide links to everything from legal documents to book reviews...

From A Blogger's Take on Summer Reading (NPR)

Metafilter:The Boing Boing It's OK To Like ?
posted by y2karl to MetaFilter-Related at 1:32 PM (27 comments total)

There's only one way to settle a rivalry like this: a steel cage match. "Two community weblogs enter, one community weblog leaves."
posted by Johnny Assay at 1:58 PM on August 15, 2004


MetaFilter - The BoingBoing Where Instead of Cory Bitching About The Latest Company That's Screwed Him, We Discuss Cory Bitching About The Latest Company That's Screwed Him.
posted by Blue Stone at 2:02 PM on August 15, 2004


see also
posted by PrinceValium at 2:14 PM on August 15, 2004


Except boingboing's "community" is like, uh, four or five people, isn't it?
posted by reklaw at 2:29 PM on August 15, 2004


As far as I can tell, MetaFilter is totally fucking unique. I don't quite know how we've managed it.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 3:17 PM on August 15, 2004


Why aren't you supposed to like BoingBoing?
posted by humuhumu at 3:37 PM on August 15, 2004


Except boingboing's "community" is like, uh, four or five people, isn't it?

Yeah but they get all their links emailed to them by fansreaders, so it's sort of like slashdot.
posted by Space Coyote at 4:12 PM on August 15, 2004


Didn't boingboing take away some of the "community" feel when it took away commenting?
posted by thatothrgirl at 4:29 PM on August 15, 2004


Boing Boing: The Metafilter it's OK to like.
posted by Jimbob at 4:43 PM on August 15, 2004


Didn't boingboing take away some of the "community" feel when it took away commenting?

I seem to recall that someone said something mean, or complained about the endless
"here's are some more slides from my summer (burning man) vacation".
posted by milovoo at 5:05 PM on August 15, 2004


My recollection is that the comments had sort of become endless Xeni-bashing.
posted by mwhybark at 5:08 PM on August 15, 2004


furthermore...

MetaFilter: fetishizing idiosyncrasy.
posted by mwhybark at 5:11 PM on August 15, 2004


My recollection is that the comments had sort of become endless Xeni-bashing.

Well, here's approximately when it was.
(Mine was rather inane, but IIRC there were harsher comments somewhere in there, deleted perhaps?)
posted by milovoo at 5:20 PM on August 15, 2004


Uh, I actually like BoingBoing. Except, you know, for the RIDICULOUSLY STUPID NEVERENDING SARS ART JAG THAT JUST. WOULD. NOT. FUCKING. DIE that Ms Jardin went on which was so obnoxious as to inspire enough flaming to make them decide to stop accepting comments..
posted by majick at 5:46 PM on August 15, 2004


You guys just need to start using bOINGbOING lite, s'all.
posted by Hackworth at 6:24 PM on August 15, 2004


I've been a Boing Boing reader for a long time, and really, really miss the comments... the wiseass responses, people posting followup links, and questions being asked and answered were a big part of what was good about it for me.

But if people were attacking me in my blog's comments on a regular basis, I'd probably turn commenting off, too.
posted by Zed_Lopez at 8:47 PM on August 15, 2004


Sars art? I guess people will obsess over just about anything. At least it stayed under my radar this long.
posted by mischief at 9:05 PM on August 15, 2004


Jeez, I didn't mean for this to be a snarkfest--I thought that MetaFilter and Boing Boing were both in good company and getting mass props from the New York Times and National Public Radio. I don't know nothing about Boing Boing, been there only once or twice and, on the spur of the moment, just threw that last line in.

That could and should have read thus--

MetaFilter: Where Memes Start

I made the post to note that MetaFilter got mass props, in a sense, from the New York Times and National Public Radio. Well, got mass props from Pamela LiCalzi O'Connell, who wrote the Online Diary at the NYT and Joi Ito--now there's a personage ripe for insider comment and discussion !--but still...

The way I see it, it's a compliment for MetaFilter and Boing Boing, which seems like a very smart place to me, alike. It's worth noting to see either place get such accolades--such as they are--from said individuals and institutions.
posted by y2karl at 12:47 AM on August 16, 2004


Stop the snarkfest? No can do, karl, you dirty consensus-maker, we want to continue snarking about BoingBoing. And Joi Ito, now.

MetaFilter: The Snark Starts Here
posted by adrianhon at 7:13 AM on August 16, 2004


Joi Ito bit the head off my baby!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 8:05 AM on August 16, 2004


Boing Boing was better with comments, yeah. But the authors (all of them) still post good stuff there. Sure, it's not all gold like you lot post, but why the bile?
posted by Songdog at 9:41 AM on August 16, 2004


The unread's envy of the well read, perhaps ?
posted by y2karl at 12:38 PM on August 16, 2004


Why do we have to compare to BoingBoing? If BB and MeFi are the two go-to sources, why can't there just be two go-to sources? They're very different sites, there needn't be an artificial competition between them.
posted by me3dia at 12:51 PM on August 16, 2004


A lot of Metafilter links used to come from there, and I think a backlash to that has developed. Some people here have developed a Mefi-centric view of the web to a surprising extent, let's say, so maybe they are compelled therefore to see BoingBoing as a Bad Site.

Really, I don't know. I have observed Cory post here and get kicked to the curb a couple of times too, but it seemed to me like the people involved didn't recognize that he was a 'name' guy and thought they were routinely wedgying a newbie or something.

In conclusion, see me3dia's post.
posted by crunchburger at 5:38 PM on August 16, 2004


I enjoy BoingBoing, but the best thing on there in, like, forever was John Shirley's sidebar guestblog, which alas is over.
posted by rushmc at 6:20 PM on August 16, 2004


the best thing on there in, like, forever was John Shirley's sidebar guestblog, which alas is over.

As opposed to Chris Coppola's which was teh suck!
And is also, fortunately in this case, over.
posted by milovoo at 9:55 PM on August 16, 2004


The cognoscenti know that memes really begin at The Site Which Shall Remain Nameless, FARK, and Something Awful. MetaFilter and BoingBoing just make 'em respectable.
posted by briank at 9:46 AM on August 17, 2004


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