Selflinker alert October 30, 2005 2:43 AM   Subscribe

MetaWhoreFilter. Self-link to a (probably paid) article about some dumb whorehouse in Germany.
posted by loquacious to Bugs at 2:43 AM (77 comments total)

Are you sure it's a self-link? I don't doubt it for a minute-- it sure smells like one, but I did some cursory poking around on the site, even checked the whois, and couldn't find any actual evidence...
posted by dersins at 2:48 AM on October 30, 2005


Ah. Never mind. Self link it is. I just hope this guy is an fun as Billistic was last night...
posted by dersins at 2:50 AM on October 30, 2005


Wait is it self link weekend?
posted by TwelveTwo at 2:51 AM on October 30, 2005


lol seNd thiS t00 evvry1 on UR BUDdY list 0R U w1LL D1E :'( :-( tOnIte11! ;__; :-{

lol OK OK just playin 4 realz but plz send newayz ok?
posted by naxosaxur at 2:53 AM on October 30, 2005


He has also posted a comment that links to a daughter/sister site of this "theCheers" crap-pile that's some virtual stock exchange sim.

I'm not going to link them here to increase the page rank of any of them, but you can see the stock sim link clearly displayed at the top right of theCheers page.

I wouldn't be surprised if all of his links were affiliated, but that's heresay.
posted by loquacious at 2:54 AM on October 30, 2005


but that's heresay.

you mean because you're saying it here?

joking...
posted by dersins at 3:04 AM on October 30, 2005


Comment one. Link to theCheers.org.

Comment two: Link to theCheers.org

Comment three: Discussed above.

Whois info for thecheers.org, and investingexperience.com:

"Siim Einfeldt"
posted by loquacious at 3:07 AM on October 30, 2005


Who you calling a dumb whore?
posted by mischief at 3:11 AM on October 30, 2005


mischief: In all likelihood, this dude.



*fwoomp*
posted by loquacious at 3:16 AM on October 30, 2005


To be fair, that may not actually be mediacurse's pic. Or even the pic of "Siim Einfeldt". Or even, "Siim Einfeldt" may not actually be mediacurse.

But this being the internet and all, and considering that's how these things generally work out, I'd be willing to wager along with my intuition and suppose that it is. There's articles by authors named "Richard Head" on that thecheers.org site - but they match the ones written by "Siim Einfeldt" in tone, typo, topic and style. Man, that's clever. Richard. Head.

I wish I had some international long distance minutes right now. I'd give a call to the numbers listed in the whois and have a nice little chat.

Hell yeah my panties are bunched. I'm pretty sure this is my first MeTa callout. I mean, I'm calm and nonplussed and everything, but righteously clenched.
posted by loquacious at 3:36 AM on October 30, 2005


Metafilter: Righteously Clenched
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 4:06 AM on October 30, 2005


no, the article wasn't paid for - who would pay for this type of article (this bad I mean)? Secondly, I do agree that it's a "dumb whorehouse in Germany".

The links in the comments really are my own sites, but I don't think this type of links in comments are forbidden? I understand the point about the main link though.

But yeah. Sorry guys. My bad. And there's no secrets, you don't have to guess anything (like I said, the sites are mine).

But Richard Head is someone else, not me ;)
posted by mediacurse at 4:23 AM on October 30, 2005


Damnit, stop being so easy going, level headed and sensible! This is your cue to burst into dramatic flames and implode in an annhilation of loathing and despair!

Must be all that experimental grade cannabis over there. My envy is uncontainable.

No, the problem is that your in-comment self linking isn't even really topical. It's opportunistic advertising, basically.

Apologies for going all stormtrooper all over this. But this isn't good. You're probably going to get banned, if history is any indication. You might just get a week off. I don't know, it isn't up to me.

Now if you can stand it, please pass me that humongous baguette sized spliff you magically rolled up like it was out of thin air, it's well past bedtime for me.
posted by loquacious at 4:37 AM on October 30, 2005


lol, yep, I know I might get banned now. But like I mentioned in metafilter - lesson learned, the hard way. So if I will be banned, then I think it's fair. If not, I'll try not to fark up again.

Okay, this is now probably gonna ensure my ban but I have to agree with your comment about my comments. You know, when you're working with something then you do anything to promote them, to make them work. And this is how it should be. BUT the locations and the means should be chosen better than I have done it. And as I'm new to Metafilter, then I really didn't know what to expect from here. Well, fortunately (unfortunately?) now I know.

I won't apologise again (been there done that), but lets just put it this way - if you were doing what I have been doing, I'd pretty much do the same as you've been doing. Anyway, lets see what happens...

Off to get some more cannabis (now I would actually have a related link to put here from my own magazine, but I won't - see, I'm learning) :D
posted by mediacurse at 4:51 AM on October 30, 2005


It’s about posting to any part of your site within the FPP. Otherwise, everyone would be playing the game of moving contnet off the front pages of their sites to a subdirectory and posting it to the blue as a headline.

That’s not how Haughey intended MetaFilter to be used.

Weither the contents appeared on your site via someone else, or your own means, if they’re in small text or laege, italic caps, front page or no, it’s still material appearing on your site. You may not have authored the whorehouse ad, and thus aren’t the original copyright holder, but you’re still pointing to something visible on your site. You may be sincere in your apology- or not, but your actions were hardly as much of an accident as you would profess.
posted by Smart Dalek at 4:55 AM on October 30, 2005


but lets just put it this way - if you were doing what I have been doing, I'd pretty much do the same as you've been doing.

mediacurse, where do you get your drugs from?
posted by gsb at 5:09 AM on October 30, 2005


I'm copy/pasting because I'm sick of wasting my time on this useless limp-dick asshole:

Fuck you, you stupid piece of shit. I'm fucking tired of you assholes posting shit links to get a few more hits to your stupid fucking websites for a few fucking pennies. Is your life so empty and meaningless, and your contribution to society so useless that you have to fool people into reading what you write?

p.s. get the fuck out and go get hit by a bus
posted by Optimus Chyme at 5:11 AM on October 30, 2005


This is beyond tiresome. And the whole "tee-hee, yeah, I'm a self-linker, but aren't I cute anyway?" bit we've been getting lately is making me retch.
posted by taz at 5:23 AM on October 30, 2005


So, can we take this and the luck dragon as a what they are: A great arg two to three months. This way the second they say "oh my bad. I'm new. I'll figure it out soon ." We can just ban them for taking the rest of us for complete idiots.
posted by oddman at 5:45 AM on October 30, 2005


ahem. "a great argument for not allowing new accounts to post to the front page for two to three months..."

(grrrr.... nothing like failing to preview to take the wind out of your rhetorical sails.)
posted by oddman at 5:49 AM on October 30, 2005


How about three months to life instead?
posted by grouse at 5:59 AM on October 30, 2005


Thread's gone. Hopefully the user has been banned, as well.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:03 AM on October 30, 2005


Man, this happens every time I take a little teeny weekend vacation. Ugh.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:04 AM on October 30, 2005


Good morning, Matt. :)
posted by Optimus Chyme at 6:09 AM on October 30, 2005


Man, this happens every time I take a little teeny weekend vacation. Ugh.

Perhaps you are being watched.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 6:36 AM on October 30, 2005


Full-timing starts Tuesday morning, Matt. Get some fresh air.
posted by NinjaPirate at 6:45 AM on October 30, 2005


/ Optimus Chyme 2005-10-30 07:12:11
this sucks you suck you dumb fucking faggot


Wow, that sure put him in his place.
posted by nylon at 6:47 AM on October 30, 2005


If you have a problem with what I post outside of MeFi, why not email me instead? It's not like you "caught" me, seeing as how I could have just posted on his dumbshit site anonymously.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 7:16 AM on October 30, 2005


Tell us how you really feel Optimus.
posted by nathan_teske at 8:16 AM on October 30, 2005


I think nylon provided a valuable piece of information.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 8:18 AM on October 30, 2005


/ Optimus Chyme 2005-10-30 07:12:11
this sucks you suck you dumb fucking faggot

Wow, that sure put him in his place.


just more edgy and clever commentary by mefi's most overrated poster.
posted by quonsar at 8:41 AM on October 30, 2005


Optimus, there's no reason for me to have a problem with anything that you post anywhere. You can do what the fuck you want. You can even insult my mother, if it tickles you. It just amuses and fascinates me how you've had such an incongruously personal and vitriolic reaction to (another) self-link, and I thought it was worth mentioning. Yes, it's annoying. Billistic was even more annoying. I'd be very happy for mediacurse to be banned, by which I mean that I'd be happy to think that his login details will no longer work on this website. But let's keep things in perspective, eh?
posted by nylon at 8:42 AM on October 30, 2005


er, most underrated poster.
posted by quonsar at 8:45 AM on October 30, 2005


er, most underrated poster.
posted by quonsar at 8:45 AM PST on October 30


teh
posted by Optimus Chyme at 8:59 AM on October 30, 2005


Baseball bats are, my friends, the cure to this disease. If an enraged MeFi use were to go all OC on one of these dipshit bastards, it would serve as a very visible warning to the rest of them that they'd best fark off.

Not that violence ever solves anything.
posted by five fresh fish at 9:14 AM on October 30, 2005


LOL Heh well LOL I have to take my lumps like a champ and I guess I will LOL because while it may be impossible to completely LOL fuck you in the eye I at least got a few hours of moderate traffic spike out of this so LOL let's call it even now and LOL you can even ban me I guess LOL because it's just $5 LOL I work so hard for the money LOL
posted by scarabic at 9:23 AM on October 30, 2005


Man, this happens every time I take a little teeny weekend vacation. Ugh.

Heheh.

"Ok kids, we left you a frayed electrical cord and a bucket of water. You be good now and we'll be right back."
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 9:25 AM on October 30, 2005


"happy 12th birthday, son! here's the keys to the whiskey cabinet and the trans am..."
posted by quonsar at 9:30 AM on October 30, 2005


I miss Billistics.
posted by cloeburner at 10:43 AM on October 30, 2005


I found the link informative and interesting. Thanks for the heads up, mediacurse.
posted by Meatbomb at 10:59 AM on October 30, 2005


Optimus, relax. I realize the internet is stuff with spam, but metafilter is the exception. Outing self-linkers can be fun but there's no reason to go crazy
posted by delmoi at 12:13 PM on October 30, 2005


MetaFilter: LOL fuck you in the eye
posted by matteo at 12:36 PM on October 30, 2005


and also,

MetaP4ilter: seNd thiS t00 evvry1 on UR BUDdY list 0R U w1LL D1E
posted by matteo at 12:37 PM on October 30, 2005


MetaFilter: Gentleman's Club? Gently, man clubbed.

Considering the breadth and depth of assholery on the web and the high profile of the MeFi, I'm really surprised this doesn't happen more often. I mean, it's not there's a chance Optimus is going to go to your house, is it?

Anyway, I have some very interesting pictures of Billistics and mediacurse doing fun things together; email me for details. ;)
posted by wendell at 1:15 PM on October 30, 2005


Now Matt, you know there's an easy way to leave us alone for several days without us hurting ourselves...
posted by NotMyselfRightNow at 2:07 PM on October 30, 2005


p.s. get the fuck out and go get hit by a bus
*volunteers to drive the bus*.

This whole "self-link then act all coy and aw-shucks I done a bad thing" schtick is getting really old. What makes it worse is that there are always plenty of members here who jump in and turn the fuckwit into a celebrity. They should be ignored until they are driven away by the lack of reinforcement that what they did was worth the fiver to get attention from the cool crowd.

Because deleted threads are visible via lowfi MeFi, does that make them visible to search engines and, if so, doesn't that mean that a deleted thread still has some value in page ranking etc?
posted by dg at 2:12 PM on October 30, 2005


Outing self-linkers can be fun but there's no reason to go crazy

Lack of anything better to do doesn't count as a reason?
posted by Ryvar at 2:12 PM on October 30, 2005


What makes it worstest is that it is going to increase exponentially. The assholes have discovered they can use MetaFilter to the benefit of their pocketbook. This place is about to be raped.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:19 PM on October 30, 2005


looks like i will have a lot more addresses to post.
posted by puke & cry at 2:27 PM on October 30, 2005


1) this thread will keep going to the original self-link thread, and brining in traffic.

2) the actual whorehouse website dosn't even resolve anymore. (the article still exists) so the whole thing is rather moot.
posted by delmoi at 3:08 PM on October 30, 2005


MetaFilter: the whole thing is rather moot.
posted by languagehat at 3:18 PM on October 30, 2005


Huh. I was thinking:
MetaFilter: the actual whorehouse website.
posted by scarabic at 4:08 PM on October 30, 2005


I thought this sounded nice:

MetaFilter: This place is about to be raped.
posted by Godbert at 4:16 PM on October 30, 2005


MetaFilter: teh
posted by Hat Maui at 5:17 PM on October 30, 2005


2) the actual whorehouse website dosn't even resolve anymore.

sadly, it does
posted by mr.marx at 5:53 PM on October 30, 2005


Metafilter: doesn't even resolve anymore.
posted by Chuckles at 3:43 AM on October 31, 2005


This place is about to be raped.

/lubes
/waits

Is this the right place?
posted by yerfatma at 4:37 AM on October 31, 2005


Stupid time change. I'm early, aren't I?
posted by yerfatma at 4:38 AM on October 31, 2005


This whole "self-link then act all coy and aw-shucks I done a bad thing" schtick is getting really old.

I thought we changed policy. Now you can self-link as long as you have a good sense of humor about it and never admit you did it on purpose.
posted by BackwardsCity at 6:20 AM on October 31, 2005


"This whole "self-link then act all coy and aw-shucks I done a bad thing" schtick is getting really old."
What, you'd prefer angry defiance?

Optimus is hoping that someone DIES because of what they posted to a website? The call-out was decent, the poster was recalcitrant, that should have been the end of it (aside from administrative action). Instead, what? Frothing hatred from someone who thinks that apopleptic profanity is the soul of wit? A quick posse of mob justice?
Y'all need to get laid more. All this alone time is fucking up your heads.
posted by klangklangston at 7:33 AM on October 31, 2005


Yeah, I didn't get the "good sense of humor thing" with Billistics either. Billistics was being a douche, on top of breaking The Big Guideline.
posted by jenovus at 8:45 AM on October 31, 2005


I thought this sounded nice:
MetaFilter: This place is about to be raped.
- Godbert

Ha! Ya! Rape! Funny! Hoo boy! Hi-lar-i-ous!
posted by raedyn at 9:44 AM on October 31, 2005


the poster was recalcitrant

Yeah, he sure was:

You know, when you're working with something then you do anything to promote them, to make them work.

And yeah, I wouldn't be sad if all spammers died in horrible, bloody accidents. They are parasites and leeches who contribute nothing to society.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 9:50 AM on October 31, 2005


Wow, just like you!
posted by klangklangston at 10:36 AM on October 31, 2005


Leeches have long been misaligned as worthless parasites.

They're really quite useful in medicine, helping in areas like limb transplants and amputations.

And bloodletting. Don't forget the bloodletting.
posted by loquacious at 10:48 AM on October 31, 2005


Wow, just like you!
posted by klangklangston at 10:36 AM PST on October 31


What are you, ten?
posted by Optimus Chyme at 10:56 AM on October 31, 2005


Speaking of ten, let's everybody count to it before their next post, mmm'kay?
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 1:30 PM on October 31, 2005


Backwardscity, read Mathowies next comment in that thread.
posted by Catfry at 1:53 PM on October 31, 2005


Catfry: Yeah, I saw it. That's where the second half of my sentence comes from. Billistics admitted he did it on purpose, so "bannage commences." If he hadn't, he would have stayed, because of his "good sense of humor about it."

To my mind that's an absoutely terrible precedent for Matt to be setting.
posted by BackwardsCity at 2:33 PM on October 31, 2005


Someday I'll be as mature as you. I'm only ten, so I don't know when it's ok to call strangers faggot.
posted by klangklangston at 2:48 PM on October 31, 2005


To my mind that's an absoutely terrible precedent for Matt to be setting.
Exactly - because of the lack of documented guidelines here (not saying that's a bad thing, just sayin'), common-law is pretty much how things are decided. That comment almost (and to some minds, does) gives approval for self-linking, provided the person doesn't know it is not allowed. As you can't prove what someone doesn't know in this environment, denial makes it aceptable.
posted by dg at 3:17 PM on October 31, 2005


DG: Yeah, but is that such a huge problem? The link still gets deleted, and if they do it again, they're banned. Maybe you desire an iron hand of justice, but I think you're lookin' for trouble where none currently exists.
posted by klangklangston at 4:20 PM on October 31, 2005


KLANGKLANGSTON: The problem I have is that, if my understanding is correct (which it often isn't), the site that has been linked is still linked from MeFi even after it is deleted because the deleted threads are not actually deleted but are removed from the main page of the site - if you know the thread number, you can find it manually and it is still accessible via lowfi.mefi, therefore is accessible to spiders from search engines. In this case, the site that has been linked gains the benefit in page ranking from being linked to by a major site.

I don't think the problem is all that widespread yet, but it will no doubt catch on now that a couple of people have identified it. Ironically, we are making the problem worse by talking about it ;-/
posted by dg at 4:40 PM on October 31, 2005


It's a problem because it means that it will keep happening, causing this site to suck. Most of want to avoid that.

It's not complicated.
posted by sic at 4:46 PM on October 31, 2005


Someday I'll be as mature as you. I'm only ten, so I don't know when it's ok to call strangers faggot.
posted by klangklangston at 2:48 PM PST on October 31


I was pretty pissed off at mediacurse, but you need to take a deep breath there, little doggie.

By getting offended because I was mean to someone who purposely breaks the rules here in order to earn a few bucks, and getting even more offended because of something I posted offsite, you reveal yourself as someone more interested in conflict with me than anything else.

Which is pretty funny because I have no idea who you are.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 5:00 PM on October 31, 2005


"I was pretty pissed off at mediacurse, but you need to take a deep breath there, little doggie. "
Buckaroo, I'm not the one that went to someone else's blog to call 'em a "faggot" over something they posted on a website. And I think you're seriously overestimating the amount of effort required to rebuke your upchucked discourse. But if it makes you feel better about your outburst, you can pretend this is all about me. Which is pretty funny, because you have no idea who I am.
posted by klangklangston at 6:12 PM on October 31, 2005


faggot.
posted by puke & cry at 1:37 PM on November 5, 2005


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