Meetup at WebVisions? June 23, 2004 10:28 PM Subscribe
Supporting our new advertiser. Since we know #1 is there as a speaker, anyone else want to make it a gathering?
I am undecided wether I will be going or not. School takes up a lot of time.
posted by Keyser Soze at 11:39 PM on June 23, 2004
posted by Keyser Soze at 11:39 PM on June 23, 2004
i'll click, since it's the advertiser. but beyond that, forget it.
posted by bob sarabia at 12:25 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by bob sarabia at 12:25 AM on June 24, 2004
I clicked too, but all kinds of BUY VIAGRA NOW little windows popped up!
just kidding.
be good citizens and click on the damn link if you want to support the site and you're too cheap or too broke to donate a few bucks. no Viagra pop-ups there. and anyway you should block pop-ups all the time
;)
posted by matteo at 2:45 AM on June 24, 2004
just kidding.
be good citizens and click on the damn link if you want to support the site and you're too cheap or too broke to donate a few bucks. no Viagra pop-ups there. and anyway you should block pop-ups all the time
;)
posted by matteo at 2:45 AM on June 24, 2004
So is this thread another ad or what? The ad on the front page is quite enough, thanks. I saw it. I didn't click on it.
But no, that's not enough. I get to read about THE SAME AD in MeTa. And discuss it, even. Yes, let's talk. About what mathowie's making on it, his connections with the advertisers, and on and on.
Which just ends up being more advertising. Look, people paid for this already, it should end there. Conflating an ad with the site itself is a tad much. I'll take 20 more MeTa call-out/flame-fests over this, thanks.
posted by attackthetaxi at 4:56 AM on June 24, 2004
But no, that's not enough. I get to read about THE SAME AD in MeTa. And discuss it, even. Yes, let's talk. About what mathowie's making on it, his connections with the advertisers, and on and on.
Which just ends up being more advertising. Look, people paid for this already, it should end there. Conflating an ad with the site itself is a tad much. I'll take 20 more MeTa call-out/flame-fests over this, thanks.
posted by attackthetaxi at 4:56 AM on June 24, 2004
Um. If the plan was so that advertisers paid $1k a month for that prime real estate, why are any of you assuming that the number of clicks it gets matters at all?
Being a good mefi citizen means looking at it and stifling all urges to be pissed off about it. Clicking on it is just adding insult to injury.
posted by crunchland at 5:28 AM on June 24, 2004
Being a good mefi citizen means looking at it and stifling all urges to be pissed off about it. Clicking on it is just adding insult to injury.
posted by crunchland at 5:28 AM on June 24, 2004
Well, you "get to read about THE SAME AD in MeTa", or you could just move on. Unless I missed the part about the new meta-requirement regarding reading every single MetaTalk thread.
Not everyone sees the front page (RSS, Lofi, etc.) so not everyone even sees the AD. I haven't.
posted by DBAPaul at 5:32 AM on June 24, 2004
Not everyone sees the front page (RSS, Lofi, etc.) so not everyone even sees the AD. I haven't.
posted by DBAPaul at 5:32 AM on June 24, 2004
I read MeTa, DBAPaul, because it can be quite funny. This thread here I find to be commerce. And I'm commenting on it because I object to commerce in MeFi or MeTa posts. Beyond that, I don't have a problem with ads on the site that are marked as such.
So. Yes, I'm not required to read every single MetaTalk thread. But this one got my attention for the wrong reasons, and I felt I should say something about it. So nyah, basically. I'll read what I want to on this site.
posted by attackthetaxi at 5:53 AM on June 24, 2004
So. Yes, I'm not required to read every single MetaTalk thread. But this one got my attention for the wrong reasons, and I felt I should say something about it. So nyah, basically. I'll read what I want to on this site.
posted by attackthetaxi at 5:53 AM on June 24, 2004
My world is crumbling! Crumbling I say! I'm swamped! That ad takes up THE WHOLE FRONT PAGE! AND NOW IT'S TAKEN OVER METATALK!!!!!! AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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posted by Blue Stone at 6:03 AM on June 24, 2004
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posted by Blue Stone at 6:03 AM on June 24, 2004
That was good. Maybe I should try that approach instead. :)
posted by attackthetaxi at 6:12 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by attackthetaxi at 6:12 AM on June 24, 2004
Untie those panties, y'all.
It is the first of the $1K ads, so that merits a small discussion. Add to that the fact that Number One is going to speak there, and there's enough here to perhaps open a thread to discuss the effectiveness, the relevance and the impact of the ad.
Next month, when there's a Chee-tos ad instead, we can be all blasé about it. But there's no need to shit on this thead.
posted by chicobangs at 9:27 AM on June 24, 2004
It is the first of the $1K ads, so that merits a small discussion. Add to that the fact that Number One is going to speak there, and there's enough here to perhaps open a thread to discuss the effectiveness, the relevance and the impact of the ad.
Next month, when there's a Chee-tos ad instead, we can be all blasé about it. But there's no need to shit on this thead.
posted by chicobangs at 9:27 AM on June 24, 2004
Christ, can you guys lay off it once in a while?
Don't click on it (it's not using a tracking URL anyway). Don't obsess about how much money someone paid (I put it up for free because I'm helping a friend promote it). If you live in Portland, Oregon and are interested in web development, consider attending, otherwise don't waste your time, energy, and this server's resources bitching about it here please.
This thread was about whether or not you are thinking of attending. 11 comments so far, and one person mentioned whether or not they would attend.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:38 AM on June 24, 2004
Don't click on it (it's not using a tracking URL anyway). Don't obsess about how much money someone paid (I put it up for free because I'm helping a friend promote it). If you live in Portland, Oregon and are interested in web development, consider attending, otherwise don't waste your time, energy, and this server's resources bitching about it here please.
This thread was about whether or not you are thinking of attending. 11 comments so far, and one person mentioned whether or not they would attend.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:38 AM on June 24, 2004
Well, I was going to attend, but I've recently discovered that one of the panelists is kind of a grouch.
posted by Opus Dark at 9:53 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by Opus Dark at 9:53 AM on June 24, 2004
Having the internet in his pants is no kind of draw, either.
posted by attackthetaxi at 10:03 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by attackthetaxi at 10:03 AM on June 24, 2004
heh. So I'm speaking at 1:30 that day, and I think there's a burgerville around the corner. How about we have lunch there? I'm buying.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:52 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:52 AM on June 24, 2004
I went to Webvisions a couple of years ago. It's not a bad event. Like all such events it's as good as the speakers they attract. This year's edition looks promising. I'm not far away so I'll probably be there.
posted by normy at 11:38 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by normy at 11:38 AM on June 24, 2004
See you there. 12:30 work?
posted by karmaville at 11:38 AM on June 24, 2004
posted by karmaville at 11:38 AM on June 24, 2004
Registering to attend is $75 per person and you're running the ad for free? Odd.
posted by reklaw at 1:09 PM on June 24, 2004
posted by reklaw at 1:09 PM on June 24, 2004
So I take it you won't be going reklaw?
It's a small one-day conference run by a small group. I've paid $600 to attend a one-day conference before (of my own, not employer's money), and common one-day stuff like a Tufte seminar runs about $300. $75 is pretty cheap for eight hours of panels. The organizer asked that speakers help pimp the thing, so I figured I might as well give it a go as a test ad. If I had unlimited computing resources, I would only show the ad to those in the Pacific Northwest, and keep it away from others.
I don't know how "good" of a conference it's been over the years, I've only been there once, last year, and aside from one panel and an amazing keynote, I thought some of the speakers were giving bad advice. Looking at the speaker list, it seems those folks have been cut, so I expect this year's conference to be much improved.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:21 PM on June 24, 2004
It's a small one-day conference run by a small group. I've paid $600 to attend a one-day conference before (of my own, not employer's money), and common one-day stuff like a Tufte seminar runs about $300. $75 is pretty cheap for eight hours of panels. The organizer asked that speakers help pimp the thing, so I figured I might as well give it a go as a test ad. If I had unlimited computing resources, I would only show the ad to those in the Pacific Northwest, and keep it away from others.
I don't know how "good" of a conference it's been over the years, I've only been there once, last year, and aside from one panel and an amazing keynote, I thought some of the speakers were giving bad advice. Looking at the speaker list, it seems those folks have been cut, so I expect this year's conference to be much improved.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:21 PM on June 24, 2004
If I can get this house-arrest-anklet off by July 16th, I'll be in Portland. Matt, you don't have to buy lunch; you're doing more than enough... (but if you'd pay for SuperSizing...)
There's only one thing that bothers me about the conference's site... their use of the word "Newfangled".
NEWFANGLED?!?
posted by wendell at 2:10 PM on June 24, 2004
There's only one thing that bothers me about the conference's site... their use of the word "Newfangled".
NEWFANGLED?!?
posted by wendell at 2:10 PM on June 24, 2004
I've paid $600 to attend a one-day conference before (of my own, not employer's money)
Next year, you should pay out-of-pocket to host an AskMetaCon, where various "experts" from the MetaFilter community deliver seminars on diagnosing a sick cat, avoiding jail time for alcohol-related offenses, why your computer is slow, why your computer is rebooting, why your computer is slow and rebooting, why rebooting your computer is so slow, and anus hair. And quonsar can enter the room just long enough to shit on the podium and, ho ho, it's okay because he's quonsar and that's what quonsar does.
Then people can stop by the inevitable MetaTalk thread announcing AskMetaCon and whinge about how they can get already get the advice for free on the Internet, and why should they suddenly pay for it, and how can your sleep at night charging for the oxygen in the room when you didn't have to pay for it yourself, you greedy fuck.
posted by Danelope at 2:11 PM on June 24, 2004
Next year, you should pay out-of-pocket to host an AskMetaCon, where various "experts" from the MetaFilter community deliver seminars on diagnosing a sick cat, avoiding jail time for alcohol-related offenses, why your computer is slow, why your computer is rebooting, why your computer is slow and rebooting, why rebooting your computer is so slow, and anus hair. And quonsar can enter the room just long enough to shit on the podium and, ho ho, it's okay because he's quonsar and that's what quonsar does.
Then people can stop by the inevitable MetaTalk thread announcing AskMetaCon and whinge about how they can get already get the advice for free on the Internet, and why should they suddenly pay for it, and how can your sleep at night charging for the oxygen in the room when you didn't have to pay for it yourself, you greedy fuck.
posted by Danelope at 2:11 PM on June 24, 2004
Christ, can you guys lay off it once in a while?
No. No we can't.
Now, if you were to ask, why can't you guys lay off it once in a while, that would be a good question. Except that, if you got an actual answer, you would probably have to slit your wrists in despair at the fate of the human race.
posted by dg at 3:01 PM on June 24, 2004
No. No we can't.
Now, if you were to ask, why can't you guys lay off it once in a while, that would be a good question. Except that, if you got an actual answer, you would probably have to slit your wrists in despair at the fate of the human race.
posted by dg at 3:01 PM on June 24, 2004
Some people see things as they are, and ask "Why?"
I see things as they should be, and ask "WTFM?"
-Wendell Kennedy
posted by wendell at 5:20 PM on June 24, 2004
I see things as they should be, and ask "WTFM?"
-Wendell Kennedy
posted by wendell at 5:20 PM on June 24, 2004
How about we have lunch there? I'm buying.
See, now that's why I love this guy.
*loves that guy up, in a rugged and manly way*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:24 PM on June 24, 2004
See, now that's why I love this guy.
*loves that guy up, in a rugged and manly way*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:24 PM on June 24, 2004
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