I think this thread contains some needless personal attacks against Ironmouth, and this isn't how Metafilter should handle people with viewpoints that are against the grain. [more inside]
[This thread needs to not become Ironmouth v. Everyone. Thanks. ] [more inside]
I guess Ironmouth is accusing Trurl of being Joe Beese in these 2 comments? Whether it's true or not, it's a shitty way to engage people in the thread.