A-list bloggers deserve same respect as King of Thailand

September 8, 2005 1:12 PM

In the future, please refrain from linking to pages criticizing A-List bloggers. It's just bad form and not teh funny.
posted by eyeballkid to Etiquette/Policy at 1:12 PM (89 comments total)

it was silly, and stupid. I couldn't give a rat's ass if it was about an a-list blogger vs. anyone else.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:14 PM on September 8, 2005

Eh.
posted by delmoi at 1:15 PM on September 8, 2005

This shouldn't even need to be said.
posted by me3dia at 1:20 PM on September 8, 2005

Boy, I never get tired of that 'teh' thing.
posted by erebora at 1:21 PM on September 8, 2005

Would I need a TV pair of sycophantic, ass-kissin' lips to know what an "A-list blogger" is?
posted by joe lisboa at 1:22 PM on September 8, 2005

It was stupid, and sort of cruel in a 6th grade kind of way, not that Jason's post wasn't also pretty dumb.
posted by caddis at 1:25 PM on September 8, 2005

... or to care?
posted by joe lisboa at 1:27 PM on September 8, 2005

teh
posted by Optimus Chyme at 1:30 PM on September 8, 2005

People pay that dude money to read about him popping popcorn?

GENIUS.
posted by xmutex at 1:35 PM on September 8, 2005

*crosses eyes and waggles tongue at Optimus Chyme*
posted by erebora at 1:35 PM on September 8, 2005

and matt, come on, half the stuff here is silly and stupid. That's no reason for deletion. It's called parody.
posted by xmutex at 1:36 PM on September 8, 2005

Self-linking is against the guidelines.
posted by Edible Energy at 1:36 PM on September 8, 2005

Callouts against already-deleted threads are arguably more pointless than popcorn hacking.
posted by 31d1 at 1:38 PM on September 8, 2005 [1 favorite]

I thought it was pretty funny.
posted by Stynxno at 1:39 PM on September 8, 2005

Stynxno, and not just because you were one of the contributors?
posted by fenriq at 1:40 PM on September 8, 2005

GENIUS KOTTKE GENIUS

&lt/banya&gt
posted by fet at 1:40 PM on September 8, 2005

I thought it was pretty funny.
posted by greasy_skillet at 1:43 PM on September 8, 2005

fenriq: i was merely a messenger bringing the words to the masses.
posted by Stynxno at 1:43 PM on September 8, 2005

it was silly, and stupid.

I agree... though I don't see what that has to do with deleting it.

more silly and stupid posts would be a fantastic break from the unending downpour of news and politics, and the factionalized bickering therein.
posted by mosch at 1:43 PM on September 8, 2005

troll!
posted by mathowie (staff) at 1:45 PM on September 8, 2005

more silly and stupid intelligent, classy posts would be a fantastic break from the unending downpour of news and politics, and the factionalized bickering therein.
posted by Wolfdog at 1:46 PM on September 8, 2005

test
posted by delmoi at 1:47 PM on September 8, 2005

Wolfdog's a classy gent.
posted by xmutex at 1:55 PM on September 8, 2005

eyeballkid: are you seriously saying that we shouldn't criticize Kottke simply because he's an "A-list" blogger? As in "don't make fun of him, he's important!!!"? That just seems disingenuous.
posted by cyrusdogstar at 1:58 PM on September 8, 2005

test
posted by delmoi at 1:47 PM PST on September 8

tset
posted by Optimus Chyme at 2:00 PM on September 8, 2005

what is popcorn hacking?
posted by ParisParamus at 2:05 PM on September 8, 2005

are you seriously saying that we shouldn't criticize Kottke simply because he's an "A-list" blogger?

Kottke has brought a lot of love to the Internet. We are all warmed by the special way he has of looking at the world. I think we owe him a debt of gratitude. Criticizing him for looking at the simpler things in life, like the taking of showers an the making of popcorn, is just uncalled for.
posted by eyeballkid at 2:06 PM on September 8, 2005

$500?
posted by blue_beetle at 2:08 PM on September 8, 2005

Anyone else looking for a micro-refund?
posted by fire&wings at 2:09 PM on September 8, 2005

Oh, were you serious, eyeballkid? I thought that was a backhanded critique of the deletion.

foreach (side in Array('left','right'))
{
kottke.nuts[side].hopOff();
}
posted by sonofsamiam at 2:10 PM on September 8, 2005

eyeballkid- hahaha. Jesus man.
posted by xmutex at 2:13 PM on September 8, 2005

eyeballkid: He has? I've read handfuls of his blog posts and nothing ever jumped out as being anything special. How has he 'brought a lot of love to the Internet'? To me the word 'kottke' has always been synonymous with 'let's poke fun at self-centered blogger' although that may be because I hang out here too much =)

Anyway, aside from who he is or what he's done, I can't believe anyone should be above ridicule. If someone is such a great citizen/Netizen then a few jokes should slide right off them without any problems.
posted by cyrusdogstar at 2:13 PM on September 8, 2005

A-List bloggers

Jesus, you make the Internet sound like an episode of MTV's PoweRGirls.
posted by Peter H at 2:21 PM on September 8, 2005

I thought it was a fun post. Not because it makes fun of some guy, but because it makes fun of the stupid fad for describing every tediously obvious thing ever as a "hack" in an attempt to sell computer geeks your book. Go to Amazon and search for "hacks".

The fact that it was Kottke that inspired the post was probably because his use of the fad turned it from an easy target to a deliciously easy target.
posted by ArmyOfKittens at 2:24 PM on September 8, 2005

ArmyOfKittens: "The fact that it was Kottke that inspired the post was probably because his use of the fad turned it from an easy target to a deliciously easy target."

del.icio.us even.
posted by 31d1 at 2:28 PM on September 8, 2005

mocking hacks is totally fair game, I think this is hilarious. So is this. This one too. A text list of jokes? Not so much.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:33 PM on September 8, 2005

Yeah, I would add on to the pileon saying look -- kottke's good at times, much like BB is good at times and MeFi is good at times and...

Well, isn't the whole point of this wide diversified landscape that we can go and challenge each other's ideas, engage in dialogue? Sometimes people get too big for their britches and need to be brought down a notch or two. I expect that, and if it's not there, hell, I'll bring it myself. I think leaving certain "bloggers" (yech) in some kind of protective bubble is just weird.. they want to get on the soapbox and shout, they get the chance to be hit with the tomato much like anyone else.

Having said that, this was enh funny. Kinda.. I liked the point, and wish it hadn't been deleted, but enh, somebody will come up with a snazzier one and it will survive..
posted by cavalier at 2:34 PM on September 8, 2005

See, and here I think the flickr photos are too visual. I like dialog!!!!!!!!!!!!1!1!111!
posted by cavalier at 2:36 PM on September 8, 2005

eyeballkid is joking, fucktards.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 2:42 PM on September 8, 2005

Whoa, everything is getting deleted today!
posted by tpl1212 at 2:46 PM on September 8, 2005

I thought the text list of jokes was funnier than the photos. I guess I'm visually illiterate.
posted by timeistight at 2:51 PM on September 8, 2005

I suppose that A-List means Asshole-List. Right?
posted by mischief at 2:56 PM on September 8, 2005

Thank god for this this thread otherwise I wouldn't have know that that deleted thread existed (I uninstalled my Firefox extension which tracks the swift hand of Matt).
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 2:59 PM on September 8, 2005

Earth to internet. No one cares. Over.
posted by joe lisboa at 3:00 PM on September 8, 2005

Every time I read Flickr comments, I can't decide if it's a giant circle jerk or just the Special Olympics of photography where everyone gets a medal for showing up.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 3:07 PM on September 8, 2005

mocking hacks is totally fair game, I think this is hilarious. So is this. This one too. A text list of jokes? Not so much.

And I think just the opposite. Those pictures were lame. The Kottke list make me laugh out loud a few times.

Whatever. It's your site.
posted by eyeballkid at 3:09 PM on September 8, 2005

Pretty_Generic: "eyeballkid is joking, fucktards."


ahhh. PG, you trying to paint ebk as anything BUT a kottke apologist is ludicrous.

I mean, we all know he slept with the man.
posted by fishfucker at 3:09 PM on September 8, 2005

I'm kind of hoping that this thread gets deleted, too.
posted by fixedgear at 3:10 PM on September 8, 2005

more intelligent, classy posts would be a fantastic break from the unending downpour of news and politics, and the factionalized bickering therein.

Those would be good too, but there's nothing wrong with silly.
posted by mosch at 3:10 PM on September 8, 2005

>there's nothing wrong with silly.
Oh, totally agreed.
posted by Wolfdog at 3:13 PM on September 8, 2005

Armitage wins!
posted by cavalier at 3:33 PM on September 8, 2005

matthowie- I've never known you to delete posts simply because you didn't find a joke funny.

Oh well. Like someone said. It's your site.
posted by xmutex at 3:39 PM on September 8, 2005

It was funny, but it was also mean. Good riddance.
posted by caddis at 3:40 PM on September 8, 2005

Come on. Kottke made a ridiculously stupid post and someone rightly made fun of it. MeFi has had tons of posts pointing out and mocking the absurdities of all walks of people, from the lowly common man to the celebrity. And now you wussies are calling us mean?

c'mon.
posted by xmutex at 3:44 PM on September 8, 2005

matthowie- I've never known you to delete posts simply because you didn't find a joke funny.

He's deleted accounts because he didn't find the joke funny.
posted by timeistight at 3:57 PM on September 8, 2005

OMG ironic use of OMG in formulaic humor ... (wait for it)... --- TEH FUNNY-HACK!!1! OH YESSSOES!!1
[O, fapfappityquonsarfappityfap, MG!]
[flash version released of the funny hack]
[slow clapz0rz]
[references totally added to counterstrike macros!]
[inane theme song considered not hampsterdancy enough]
[cool name for "team teh funny hack" decided upon, though it's not the edgy "fucktard jew fag wussies"]
[champagne cork popping long single-take life is good scene]
[formula tie ins to buttress teh funny hack brand. At board meetings, "Is it 'teh overlords'?" "What about 4, Profit!?" "Can the funny vibrate?"]
[highly anticipated and therefore highly disappointing flash sequal of teh funny but with a clever loading screen]
[t-shirts made despite self-conscious belief this thing is going too far as the irony gets too ironic uneasy glances worries of overcompensation dissent shark whizzing by underfoot get us off this crazy thing personal lives more complex breaking point mother don't]
[newspapers whirl on screen: "NOT 'HA-HA' TEH FUNNY?", "LAX HACKS TAX PAX", "TEH: MEH?"]
[wiki explosion, sparks bounce off camera lens]
[drunk guy rubbing eyes in disbelief, throwing away tequila bottlezorz, super-slow pan down alleyway over team FJFW to sounds of spooky Elfman hampsterdance remix]
[Final zoom in on black goatse maw]
[the end?]
[roll credits sprinkled with jokelets]
[execrable blooper in style of obsession commercial]
[Janitor in emptied theater turns to face the camera. He's Admiral Akbar. "It's a wrap!"]

I don't even like kottke.
posted by fleacircus at 4:00 PM on September 8, 2005 [1 favorite]

When I saw that post at kottke.org originally, I did wonder if the guy had lost it. I mean, you can make microwave popcorn without a microwave? Really? You mean like people did BEFORE THEY FUCKING INVENTED MICROWAVES YOU DIPSHIT?

It was thoroughly deserving of mockery, if you ask me, and the linked page was pretty funny. I guess mathowie doesn't like people mocking his A-list bloggerbuddies.
posted by reklaw at 4:04 PM on September 8, 2005

And, of course, kottke brings this stuff on himself by not enabling comments on his posts.
posted by reklaw at 4:10 PM on September 8, 2005

if he did, he'd get skewered all the time. like InstaPundit or Andy Sullivan
posted by matteo at 4:27 PM on September 8, 2005

It was funny, it wasn't mean. Kottke is a professional blogger, fair game. I'm glad I saw it before it was deleted.
posted by justgary at 4:28 PM on September 8, 2005

Bad call, it was funny. Or, at least I, and it would seem several others thought it was amusing.

The guy is a paid blogger who posted some really dumb shit, what better use for MeFi than to mock him mercilessly? You don't get much more meta than this.

Now, someone tell me there is no cabal*.

* This is rhetorical, please don't feel obligated to actually tell me this.
posted by cedar at 4:44 PM on September 8, 2005

Kottke is a professional blogger, fair game.

There may be people who get paid to blog, but I still refuse to acknowledge the term "professional blogger".
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 4:45 PM on September 8, 2005

Who is this Kottke guy, and why are there so many posts about him?

Crimony.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:46 PM on September 8, 2005

There may be people who get paid to blog, but I still refuse to acknowledge the term "professional blogger".

Professional vacationer, part time blogger.
posted by rafter at 4:48 PM on September 8, 2005

I miss Jason.
I miss orthogonality.
I miss quonsar.
I miss Miguel.
I miss many others too.

"Who is this Kottke guy?", Jeez!!!!!





[the new members are pretty cool and the place is as good as ever, I just miss some of the old guard.]
posted by caddis at 5:10 PM on September 8, 2005

I don't actually follow the guy, but I think Kottke has pulled off a huge troll - in the old school, YHBTHAND, sense - with the microwave popcorn thing.
posted by Wolfdog at 5:58 PM on September 8, 2005

fleacircus, "TEH: MEH?" must be the funniest jokelet I've read in weeks.
posted by ijoshua at 6:14 PM on September 8, 2005

'"Who is this Kottke guy?", Jeez!!!!!'

posted by caddis

14349, huh?

Give him a while, he'll catch on.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:45 PM on September 8, 2005

Any man who will pose for a snapshot with a helper monkey must be capable of finding this at least as funny as I do. BAD DELETION.
posted by dong_resin at 8:47 PM on September 8, 2005

Okay, so is anybody gonna tell us "n00b lam3rz" who kottke is and what an A-list blogger is?

And how in the hell does anybody get paid to blog? I mean, without all those ads and banners?
posted by davy at 10:49 PM on September 8, 2005

ATTN: Metafilter.

No one who has sex on a regular basis cares about your A-list blogger bullshit.

Crash, I respect ya but unplug and unclench, this is absurd.
posted by joe lisboa at 12:02 AM on September 9, 2005

I'm sorry, I've been drinking a bit. That was a tad harsh.
I meant to say, "No one gives a shit about your Revenge of the Nerds faux-hierarchy."

Good night!
posted by joe lisboa at 12:04 AM on September 9, 2005

jesus CHRIST, dong, why did you have to get welcomed to my kill list.

i mean, i LIKE you.

like, LIKE you.
posted by fishfucker at 12:15 AM on September 9, 2005

Get your filthy hands off my precious dong!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:21 AM on September 9, 2005

I got the impression that Kottke was being tongue-in-cheek.
posted by Tlogmer at 2:15 AM on September 9, 2005

Though I have to admit, it would be cool to incite 75-post meTa threads every time I posted a misinterpretable blog entry.
posted by Tlogmer at 2:17 AM on September 9, 2005

Damn, fishfucker. You are going to go through the trouble to disappear the one or two comments a month dong_resin might make just because he thought the hack list was funny?

Jeeze. I guess you better kill-file me, as well, because I also thought it was funny.
posted by taz at 3:22 AM on September 9, 2005

I really enjoyed the post. I am increasingly getting tired of the term "lifehack" used for things that are not really hacks.
posted by grouse at 4:47 AM on September 9, 2005

Okay, so is anybody gonna tell us "n00b lam3rz" who kottke is and what an A-list blogger is?

kottke: popular web personality back in the late '90s

a-list blogger: anyone who has turned off both trackbacks and comments
posted by Armitage Shanks at 7:37 AM on September 9, 2005

Long live the z-listers!

Never mind, you had to be there.
posted by deborah at 7:44 AM on September 9, 2005

my dear precious taz: welcome to my kill list!

JUST FOR KICKS.

man. i wish i had a kill list. it'd be so awesome.

in fact, consider yourself all kill listed.

from now on I only listen to myself.
posted by fishfucker at 10:25 AM on September 9, 2005

I can't HEAR you!
posted by taz at 11:16 AM on September 9, 2005

Its not even a good hack. He needs PROTECTIVE EYEGOGGLES? I"ve got a hack of my own: it's called a lid.
posted by absalom at 3:49 PM on September 9, 2005

"a-list blogger: anyone who has turned off both trackbacks and comments"

On their own blog, you mean? I see. Thing is though whatever I (think I) have to say would get much more notice on other people's blogs, like here.

It's so much easier to be a parasite!
posted by davy at 3:49 PM on September 9, 2005

Kottke satirises american convenience culture.

Web geeks don't get it.

Film at 11.
posted by dash_slot- at 4:51 PM on September 9, 2005

Ouch.
posted by mbrubeck at 6:52 AM on September 10, 2005

So if the deleted post was teh lamerz, does that mean MeFi just got pwned?

The Hipster CMS is my favorite Lifehack.
posted by danb at 8:08 AM on September 10, 2005

I'm in the unfortunate position of having a sense of humour very different to Matt's. I can see no reason to delete this.

A little nonsense now and then...
posted by nthdegx at 9:58 AM on September 10, 2005

I think if this was anyone buy one of mathowie's buddies, the post would have stayed, but that's just my opinion.

I think Kottke is the web's Chauncey Gardiner. I mean, nobody is really that simple and banal, right? RIGHT?
posted by keswick at 4:27 PM on September 10, 2005