Are we not supposed to talk about i/p?

June 10, 2006 8:44 AM

So are we not supposed to talk about Israel/Palestine at all now? this post was deleted, apparently because it was about the Israel/Palestine situation. It's a fairly straight-forward post to an NYT article. Is all news about the situation verboten or what?
posted by delmoi to Etiquette/Policy at 8:44 AM (48 comments total)

"Fairly straight-forward" links to news updates in the latest paper do not good posts make. If the article was something other than just the latest news, I'm sure it wouldn't have been deleted.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:47 AM on June 10, 2006

"Hamas fires rockets at Israel after calling off truce." That's rich.
posted by Krrrlson at 8:48 AM on June 10, 2006

It's a fairly straight-forward post to an NYT article.
Which is exactly why it's nothing special.
posted by Wolfdog at 8:50 AM on June 10, 2006

this post = my post.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:08 AM on June 10, 2006

this post = my post.

I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out.
posted by delmoi at 9:13 AM on June 10, 2006

I aim to serve.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 9:14 AM on June 10, 2006

Better to fire the rocket after the end of the truce than before...
posted by five fresh fish at 9:14 AM on June 10, 2006

this land is my land, this land is your land...
posted by blue_beetle at 9:15 AM on June 10, 2006

Well anyway, even though some people dislike newsfilter, it still gets posted every once and a while. Are standards tighter for some topics then others or what?
posted by delmoi at 9:17 AM on June 10, 2006

Yes, they are, owing to the existing level of admin/userbase fatigue on the subject. I'm sorry if you're pissed that your post got axed, but it was a link to a news story about a topic that has been covered to death in previous one-link newsfilter threads.
posted by cortex at 9:26 AM on June 10, 2006

Better to fire the rocket after the end of the truce than before...

Indeed.
posted by Krrrlson at 9:30 AM on June 10, 2006

delmoi, you post here like 24 hours a day and you weren't aware of the shitpile that precedes you?

If you're going to make a post about SUVs, fat people, abortion, or Israel/Palestine, there better be some sort of interesting angle and not just the latest tick that came over the wire so we can rehash the same damn arguments for the 678th time.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 9:49 AM on June 10, 2006

SUVs, fat people, abortion, or Israel/Palestine

Don't forget expensive wines and audiophile stereo equipment.
posted by StickyCarpet at 9:53 AM on June 10, 2006

Well, it did seem like a major development to me, but if that's how you feel, fine.
posted by delmoi at 9:54 AM on June 10, 2006 [1 favorite]

i just found a story about fat hamas members in suvs launching rockets at israeli abortion clinics run by atheists who want to keep creationism out of their schools ... should i post it? ... will i get a prize?

seriously, the idea crossed my mind that the latest developments in the middle east were significant ... but the resulting "discussion" would just be more of the same shit-flinging and who needs it?
posted by pyramid termite at 9:58 AM on June 10, 2006

But if you find a great site about wine drinking fat people in an SUV reviewing audiophile stereo equipment while on their way to an abortion clinic please post immediately.

Unless it's a single link to the NYT.

pyramid termite is looking over my shoulder!
posted by ?! at 10:01 AM on June 10, 2006

The important thing is that we post the top ten news articles from the New York Times here every day to talk about them. Because that is what MetaFilter is for, to discuss the news.
posted by LarryC at 10:04 AM on June 10, 2006

That seemed overly harsh on first read.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 10:29 AM on June 10, 2006

fandango_matt: I don't usually read the deleted threads. And you're right I probably should get my own blog, but I'm just too lazy.
posted by delmoi at 10:30 AM on June 10, 2006

Metafilter: I probably should get my own blog, but I'm just too lazy.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 10:35 AM on June 10, 2006

If you sincerely feel like offloading some of your posting to a blog, you don't have to worry about laziness. Blogger gets you up and running in like five minutes. I recommend it, in fact; worst case is you deleting a month from now when you realize you aren't using it.
posted by cortex at 10:52 AM on June 10, 2006

Wow, Delmoi, exactly how fast can you type?
And you make very few mistakes, too...
posted by jamjam at 11:12 AM on June 10, 2006

Nothing wrong with being a fuckwit mr fandangled panties. Get a maid or use your mum for laundry, you will smell a little better. Etiquette assumption: tis ok to be rude @metatalk, but not @metafilter.
posted by econous at 11:17 AM on June 10, 2006

fandangomatt, take two of these and log on in the morning:


posted by mathowie (staff) at 11:19 AM on June 10, 2006

So are we not supposed to talk about Israel/Palestine at all now?

Certianly would be an improvement. Something about the subject seems to bring out the annoying in almost everybody.
posted by Afroblanco at 11:25 AM on June 10, 2006

Do people think prefacing a newsfilter post with "NewsFilter:" will make it undeleteable, as though the admission/concession gives it some sort of critical immunity?
Or is it just for the benefit of keyword filters and kill files?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:45 AM on June 10, 2006

It was a lame post.
posted by scarabic at 12:50 PM on June 10, 2006

there better be some sort of interesting angle and not just the latest tick that came over the wire so we can rehash the same damn arguments for the 678th time.

ya know, cuz our time is so damned important!


posted by quonsar at 12:51 PM on June 10, 2006 [1 favorite]

eh, I think delmoi's just making this to try and up his contribution index.
posted by shmegegge at 1:05 PM on June 10, 2006

I had assumed that prefacing a post with [Newsfilter] was a courtesy to those of us using killfiles. I appreciate it.
posted by LarryC at 2:12 PM on June 10, 2006

250,000 mg? Half a pound? Heh.
posted by delmoi at 2:57 PM on June 10, 2006

Do people think prefacing a newsfilter post with with "NewsFilter:" will make it undeleteable...

It's just a courtesy.
posted by delmoi at 2:59 PM on June 10, 2006

A single link to the New York Times is causing all this?
It's all the news that's fit to print!
These times demand the Times!
It's the thing that's worth getting up in the morning for!
And it's free online, too! Well...mostly free, anyway.
If any of you clicked on the link more often, you'd be reading the New York Times-

Oh, wait. Nevermind.
posted by Smart Dalek at 3:17 PM on June 10, 2006

Why does quonsar always slash back at mathowie? It is very regular and the comments are always very negative attacks. Noone else seems to treat #1 this way. Just curious...
posted by erebora at 4:15 PM on June 10, 2006

It all goes back to that one time at band camp when quonsar ...

Oh, do we have to re-hash this?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:59 PM on June 10, 2006

There is worse on the blue right now.
posted by caddis at 8:36 PM on June 10, 2006

As overwrought as fandango_matt's histrionics are, he's absolutely right. What, we're going to have some meaningful discussion about a situation that's already been discussed ad nauseum?

I just don't understand why this is at all surprising to you.

There is worse on the blue right now.

Amen to that, cocksucker.
posted by mkultra at 8:58 PM on June 10, 2006

Why does quonsar always slash back at mathowie? It is very regular and the comments are always very negative attacks.

i'm a real bastard.
posted by quonsar at 11:14 PM on June 10, 2006

yeah, i have to second the deadwood comment. Cable tv show back on the air! who fucking cares? I have to wonder if its still there because matt is a fan?

also, re shitpile: there hasn't been a palestine post in two months. Is that a lot?

but whatever, lets not concern ourselves with the grim realities of our world on fire... hey! deadwood is on!
posted by Tryptophan-5ht at 2:59 AM on June 11, 2006

Jeeze, guys, if you'd only read the Deadwood thread, you'd see that the show is the modern equivalent of Shakespeare. I suppose if Shakespeare started writing again, you'd complain if somebody posted about that, too.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 4:26 AM on June 11, 2006

Tryptophan-5ht : "Cable tv show back on the air! who fucking cares?"

Apparently, JPowers, uosuaq, Samizdata, mathowie, waxbanks, bingo, edverb, Busithoth, Cyrano, dopamine, LarryC, mediareport, jonson, The Bishop of Turkey, merlinmann, kenlayne, AllesKlar, and PeterMcDermott care.

I think by "who fucking cares", you meant "I don't care, so neither should you all!"

There may be problems with that post existing, or with posts about cable shows going back on the air existing, but "who fucking cares" isn't one of them.
posted by Bugbread at 5:02 AM on June 11, 2006

Ok, perhaps the phrase "I don't care, so neither should you all!" was overstating it. I suspect it should have been "I don't care, and neither should you all!"
posted by Bugbread at 5:15 AM on June 11, 2006

Regardless, there is no other venue available, let alone more appropriate, for the ongoing discussion of grim social/political realities of the world in which we live, so it's all a moot point. In light of that, Matt will be rolling the NYT rss feed into the front page, posted by user "newsbot".
posted by cortex at 6:50 AM on June 11, 2006

fandango_matt: OK, got one. Now what?
posted by fuckwit at 7:03 AM on June 11, 2006

Yes, Tryptophan, you are morallly superior to the those who don't like politics on MetaFilter but do like the show Deadwood. Hold that close to your heart.
posted by LarryC at 9:20 AM on June 11, 2006

Indeed, fuck Deadwood.
Stupid entertainment.
What in hell does the story of a gang of amoral thugs and power struggles between greedy, manipulative bastards have to do with today's world?
No thank you.

I'm gonna go do something productive, like read a collection of porn star quotes.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 3:28 PM on June 11, 2006

gay porn stars, one hopes.
posted by cortex at 5:08 PM on June 11, 2006

I'm generally in favor of I/P discussion but in order to be post-worthy the criteria I'd use is something the typical person who's paying attention to the issue would be likely to have missed OR has a significant novelty factor that merits discussion. This doesn't fit either case.
posted by scalefree at 7:17 AM on June 12, 2006