Some people sin like this, some people sin like that... September 24, 2006 9:46 PM Subscribe
FPP Editorializing.
Fuck you, he's a lunatic.
posted by yhbc at 9:53 PM on September 24, 2006 [2 favorites]
posted by yhbc at 9:53 PM on September 24, 2006 [2 favorites]
I missed the part where Jonson editorialized on the front page. All his links lead to the Chick website. Nowhere does he say that Jack Chick is insane.
What's the problem?
posted by crunchland at 9:59 PM on September 24, 2006
What's the problem?
posted by crunchland at 9:59 PM on September 24, 2006
What yhbc said.
posted by solid-one-love at 9:59 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by solid-one-love at 9:59 PM on September 24, 2006
Would you be okay with replacing "lunatic" with "a man who claims the German Holocaust was actually a Vatican plot to kill Jews, 'the Gestapo was run by the Jesuits' and 'Hitler was a faithful Roman Catholic simply following the laws set forth in the Council of Trent'"?
posted by orthogonality at 10:00 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by orthogonality at 10:00 PM on September 24, 2006
What solid-one-love said. For fuck's sake.
posted by LittleMissCranky at 10:03 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by LittleMissCranky at 10:03 PM on September 24, 2006
Christ, can we have no standards for the relative merits of people's beliefs? Calling anyone who believes in religion a "lunatic" in an FPP would probably constitute annoying editorializing. Calling the TimeCube guy a nutjub would not. Chick holds strange "beliefs" that few people hold (despite your assertion he represents a large percentage of Americans) and asserts them as facts, not beliefs or opinions. Someone that believes the Vatican plotted the Holocaust is a lunatic.
On preview, what orthoganality said.
posted by Falconetti at 10:05 PM on September 24, 2006
On preview, what orthoganality said.
posted by Falconetti at 10:05 PM on September 24, 2006
trinarian writes "t reaches the point where editorials are being written on the front page calling religious beliefs insane"
And Jonson's wording: "Lunatic religious cartoonist Jack Chick is targeting a new demographic"
Sorry, I don't at all see where the editorializing (and I don't know this guy at all so can't comment on his 'place' in the culture) is defaming religion. This is a case of you misinterpreting the language methinks.
posted by peacay at 10:06 PM on September 24, 2006
And Jonson's wording: "Lunatic religious cartoonist Jack Chick is targeting a new demographic"
Sorry, I don't at all see where the editorializing (and I don't know this guy at all so can't comment on his 'place' in the culture) is defaming religion. This is a case of you misinterpreting the language methinks.
posted by peacay at 10:06 PM on September 24, 2006
Crap. I completely missed that word in the post. Time for new glasses.
posted by crunchland at 10:08 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by crunchland at 10:08 PM on September 24, 2006
Feh, screw this noise twice: once for this, and once for ignoring the responses to this when you whined about it the first time in the thread. Better luck next time.
posted by hototogisu at 10:10 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by hototogisu at 10:10 PM on September 24, 2006
Yet another lame-ass callout, and this still doesn't mention ME, the Napoleon of the Blogosphere.
posted by davy at 10:16 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by davy at 10:16 PM on September 24, 2006
Thoughtful replies. Thank you. I hadn't quite thought if it as "fuck you, he is a lunatic." It makes a lot more sense when you word it like that.
orthogonality:
I've been familiar with Chick for over a decade, but I've never seen anything where he approaches the holocaust as a Catholic conspiracy. I've seen plenty of anonymous Pope's as horsemen of the apocalypse, which is standard fair in many Southern churches I grew up in, but never holocaust denial or blaming catholics for it.
Perhaps one could have supported the "lunatic" claim with a link showing such a tract would have justified the name calling.
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And yes, if you live in the Bible Belt, Jack Chick represents a very popular train of theological thought.
posted by trinarian at 10:21 PM on September 24, 2006
orthogonality:
I've been familiar with Chick for over a decade, but I've never seen anything where he approaches the holocaust as a Catholic conspiracy. I've seen plenty of anonymous Pope's as horsemen of the apocalypse, which is standard fair in many Southern churches I grew up in, but never holocaust denial or blaming catholics for it.
Perhaps one could have supported the "lunatic" claim with a link showing such a tract would have justified the name calling.
___
And yes, if you live in the Bible Belt, Jack Chick represents a very popular train of theological thought.
posted by trinarian at 10:21 PM on September 24, 2006
I wouldn't expect to see an FPP about "Haunting PhotoBlog of Batshit Insane Fake Cannibals in Latin America."
I, on the other hand, would love to see such a post.
posted by interrobang at 10:23 PM on September 24, 2006
I, on the other hand, would love to see such a post.
posted by interrobang at 10:23 PM on September 24, 2006
I've been familiar with Chick for over a decade, but I've never seen anything where he approaches the holocaust as a Catholic conspiracy.
That's because you've probably only read the tracts. To see the good stuff, you have to read the comics.
posted by interrobang at 10:25 PM on September 24, 2006
That's because you've probably only read the tracts. To see the good stuff, you have to read the comics.
posted by interrobang at 10:25 PM on September 24, 2006
trinarian, if no one in the original post agrees with you & no one in the metatalk callout agrees with you, are you going to circulate a petition in your neighborhood?
At some point, you're going to have to let it go, many millions of people believe JTC to be a lunatic, I don't feel like expressing which side of the chick is crazy fence I stand on constitutes excessive soapboxing, and neither does anyone else that isn't named trinarian.
All i can imagine at this point is that you are, in fact, Jack Chick. Which is pretty goddamn cool. Can I ask you a question, sir? Which did you think of first: "Ummm... Nice!" or "Haw, Haw!". Because they're both GOLD.
posted by jonson at 10:28 PM on September 24, 2006
At some point, you're going to have to let it go, many millions of people believe JTC to be a lunatic, I don't feel like expressing which side of the chick is crazy fence I stand on constitutes excessive soapboxing, and neither does anyone else that isn't named trinarian.
All i can imagine at this point is that you are, in fact, Jack Chick. Which is pretty goddamn cool. Can I ask you a question, sir? Which did you think of first: "Ummm... Nice!" or "Haw, Haw!". Because they're both GOLD.
posted by jonson at 10:28 PM on September 24, 2006
trinarian is pulling our collective leg. Very funny, trinarian. Now give us our nice, clean grey page back again.
posted by Eideteker at 10:29 PM on September 24, 2006
posted by Eideteker at 10:29 PM on September 24, 2006
This is lame. You crap on a thread and get no takers so you bring it here, and you're getting equal treatment.
I'm going to close this thread before you promise to hold your breath until everyone agrees with you.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:31 PM on September 24, 2006
I'm going to close this thread before you promise to hold your breath until everyone agrees with you.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 10:31 PM on September 24, 2006
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I know the MetaFilter community is very secular and liberal. Being a secular liberal myself, this doesn't bug me until it reaches the point where editorials are being written on the front page calling religious beliefs insane. It bugs me even more that groupthink prevails enough that a lot of members I respect can't see the problem with this.
It was a good link. I've collected Jack Chick tracts to bring overseas with me to explain religious fundamentalism to my students. That said, I don't think the FPP is the place for you to take your religious stances.
Get your own blog.
posted by trinarian at 9:49 PM on September 24, 2006