Queens plane crash... November 12, 2001 7:51 AM Subscribe
Google searches, anyone?
Definitely not an intentional troll. More of a snarky comment on the shock-grief-healing routine we're settling into. On mature reflection probably not appropriate.
posted by luser at 8:07 AM on November 12, 2001
posted by luser at 8:07 AM on November 12, 2001
I would have preferred to see it within the thread, wherein the connection (and snarkiness) would have been more direct.
On a related note, it seems to me that the "big" thread is pretty lame. Unlike the 9/11 thread, this one seems more rumor- and fear-mongering than providing any useful service, reflection or commentary. Is it just me?
posted by rushmc at 8:28 AM on November 12, 2001
On a related note, it seems to me that the "big" thread is pretty lame. Unlike the 9/11 thread, this one seems more rumor- and fear-mongering than providing any useful service, reflection or commentary. Is it just me?
posted by rushmc at 8:28 AM on November 12, 2001
Not necessarily inappropriate. Some may want an alternative to unbearable news.
posted by y2karl at 8:30 AM on November 12, 2001
posted by y2karl at 8:30 AM on November 12, 2001
No rush, it's not just you. But it's not really surprising that people panick though. The thread is getting a bit more sane though.
And before I get off-topic on a thread about being off-topic, all just say that i thought the google thread was quite,, err,, topical?
But I was really upset that the original post had no kitties in, I mean, that was the whole reason I clicked on it.
posted by iain at 8:54 AM on November 12, 2001
And before I get off-topic on a thread about being off-topic, all just say that i thought the google thread was quite,, err,, topical?
But I was really upset that the original post had no kitties in, I mean, that was the whole reason I clicked on it.
posted by iain at 8:54 AM on November 12, 2001
Yes, definitely just you, rushmc. As bloody usual... :-)
*notes tingling feeling, clearly denoting y2karl is rustling up one of his more outlandish posts for the sake of alternativeness - perhaps North Dakotan harmonica-playing nuclear physicists in the twilight of the Fifties? *
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:56 AM on November 12, 2001
*notes tingling feeling, clearly denoting y2karl is rustling up one of his more outlandish posts for the sake of alternativeness - perhaps North Dakotan harmonica-playing nuclear physicists in the twilight of the Fifties? *
posted by MiguelCardoso at 8:56 AM on November 12, 2001
Wait, y2karl, stop everything! Dreama has just posted a vaguely familiar but funnily worded post about the King of Swaziland, AIDS and his cows!
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:06 AM on November 12, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:06 AM on November 12, 2001
Attack in Manhattan = thousands of actual witnesses with blogs.
Attack in Queens = thousands of speculators glued to Big News.
posted by holgate at 9:24 AM on November 12, 2001
Attack in Queens = thousands of speculators glued to Big News.
posted by holgate at 9:24 AM on November 12, 2001
I would have preferred to see it within the thread
You'd have to have been quick.
FWIW, I posted it here in response to Zachsmind's suggestion for keeping threads ontopic.
posted by walrus at 9:28 AM on November 12, 2001
You'd have to have been quick.
FWIW, I posted it here in response to Zachsmind's suggestion for keeping threads ontopic.
posted by walrus at 9:28 AM on November 12, 2001
Ontopic? What nonsense am I talking?
Let's all discuss the plane crash here then.
posted by walrus at 9:31 AM on November 12, 2001
Let's all discuss the plane crash here then.
posted by walrus at 9:31 AM on November 12, 2001
Offtopical note to walrus: If ontopic existed(it doesn't: I just looked it up in the O.E.D., vol.X, not the rubbish online version)it would have to be from the Greek onto(being)plus topos(place.) So it would probably mean: something or someone whose existence and meaning derive directly from their situation in physical space. Like a garden gnome in a garden, or a RAM query on MetaTalk, or a condom. They would all be undeniably ontopic.
Yep, I miss the word already. ;-)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:55 AM on November 12, 2001
Yep, I miss the word already. ;-)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:55 AM on November 12, 2001
Some may want an alternative to unbearable news.
Then they should do the Google search on their own.
posted by jpoulos at 10:22 AM on November 12, 2001
Then they should do the Google search on their own.
posted by jpoulos at 10:22 AM on November 12, 2001
Heh. Gotta love a fellow wordoholic ;)
Actually I believe one has a license to make up new words on an ad hoc basis, as they appear to be relevant. Being an aspiring amateur poet, I exercise that license somewhat more freely than most.
Hence my irrational, almost-reflexive fear of spellcheckers.
When I were a lad, we had to check our spelling with a crisp packet, mind you, before a sixteen hour day of toil down t' mines. Then we used to come 'ome and 'ave boiled phlegm for supper ... it were 'ard back then.
posted by walrus at 10:24 AM on November 12, 2001
Actually I believe one has a license to make up new words on an ad hoc basis, as they appear to be relevant. Being an aspiring amateur poet, I exercise that license somewhat more freely than most.
Hence my irrational, almost-reflexive fear of spellcheckers.
When I were a lad, we had to check our spelling with a crisp packet, mind you, before a sixteen hour day of toil down t' mines. Then we used to come 'ome and 'ave boiled phlegm for supper ... it were 'ard back then.
posted by walrus at 10:24 AM on November 12, 2001
That were nowt, lad. We were woken up, with strap, at two in morning, having gone to bed at one, with nowt but a hiding to chew, and were down mines even before we'd gone to sleep and were beaten senseless by boss if we survived and we were lucky...and we had no meta bloody filter then either, that were sissy stuff, all that outpouring of grief - grief were wot you got for Christmas if you behaved... (excuse dago rendering) Monty Python, right? Always a solace in times of trouble. And in times of no trouble too, when I were a lad, our Walrus...
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:33 AM on November 12, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:33 AM on November 12, 2001
Right, I'll get my coat. Sorry...
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:40 AM on November 12, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:40 AM on November 12, 2001
holgate: Attack in Queens = thousands of speculators glued to Big News.
The part of Rockaway Beach, Queens* where the plane went down is not that well populated. There are are lot of single family homes, usually passed down to family (as opposed to being bought up by new 'immigrants') and a lot of shorefront summer homes. There is A-train service nearby, but not too frequent. The place is usually reached by two toll-bridges passing through Gateway National Recreational Area (the other official name for Jamaica Bay wild-life refuge and marshland). The patch of residential area you see to the left of the crash-site, sandwiched by two patches of green 'park area' is a gated residential community. NYT had an article about this part of Rockaway Beach area, and how while rest of Queens has a diverse ethnic makeup, but this patch of Queens has, (if I recall correctly) "two Chinese families."
I doubt the gated community demography are also avid bloggers.
posted by tamim at 1:32 PM on November 12, 2001
The part of Rockaway Beach, Queens* where the plane went down is not that well populated. There are are lot of single family homes, usually passed down to family (as opposed to being bought up by new 'immigrants') and a lot of shorefront summer homes. There is A-train service nearby, but not too frequent. The place is usually reached by two toll-bridges passing through Gateway National Recreational Area (the other official name for Jamaica Bay wild-life refuge and marshland). The patch of residential area you see to the left of the crash-site, sandwiched by two patches of green 'park area' is a gated residential community. NYT had an article about this part of Rockaway Beach area, and how while rest of Queens has a diverse ethnic makeup, but this patch of Queens has, (if I recall correctly) "two Chinese families."
I doubt the gated community demography are also avid bloggers.
posted by tamim at 1:32 PM on November 12, 2001
just looked it up in the O.E.D., vol.X, not the rubbish online version
Ouch. A slight on my employer (well, one of them). I don't know what online version you're using (probably one of those CD-interface crappy things), but the version I use is quite as good (and better) than the paper copy. Nothing like searching for a specific citation by author, throughout the entire work, in a few seconds.
posted by Mo Nickels at 6:30 PM on November 12, 2001
Ouch. A slight on my employer (well, one of them). I don't know what online version you're using (probably one of those CD-interface crappy things), but the version I use is quite as good (and better) than the paper copy. Nothing like searching for a specific citation by author, throughout the entire work, in a few seconds.
posted by Mo Nickels at 6:30 PM on November 12, 2001
probably one of those CD-interface crappy things
Yep, got me there, but as I forked out for the O.E.D. and the 4 "additions" volumes, I meanly refuse to pay the constantly-updated online O.E.D. subscription. I guess I have enough on my hands as it is. I'll be buying the 3rd edition as soon as it comes out, though. I appreciate the great cross-referencing advantages(and greater number of entries and citations)of the version you're working on but, hey, I'm a paper guy and too old to learn new tricks. Paper is better for reading purposes anyway. And books are my favourite thing in life. I have about 2000 reference books and still feel deprived. If the Internet ever crashes for a week or so, I'll be fine.
My two favourites: Cassidy's(and Hall's)Dictionary of American Regional English(D.A.R.E.)and Lighter's Historical Dictionary of American Slang.
Annoyingly, they're both still missing the final volume... :(
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:47 PM on November 12, 2001
Yep, got me there, but as I forked out for the O.E.D. and the 4 "additions" volumes, I meanly refuse to pay the constantly-updated online O.E.D. subscription. I guess I have enough on my hands as it is. I'll be buying the 3rd edition as soon as it comes out, though. I appreciate the great cross-referencing advantages(and greater number of entries and citations)of the version you're working on but, hey, I'm a paper guy and too old to learn new tricks. Paper is better for reading purposes anyway. And books are my favourite thing in life. I have about 2000 reference books and still feel deprived. If the Internet ever crashes for a week or so, I'll be fine.
My two favourites: Cassidy's(and Hall's)Dictionary of American Regional English(D.A.R.E.)and Lighter's Historical Dictionary of American Slang.
Annoyingly, they're both still missing the final volume... :(
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:47 PM on November 12, 2001
I'm sticking with The Anglo-American Cyclopaedia, volume XLVI, pages 917-921.
posted by j.edwards at 10:59 PM on November 12, 2001
posted by j.edwards at 10:59 PM on November 12, 2001
I meanly refuse to pay the constantly-updated online O.E.D. subscription
Dang. I was hoping you'd drop your username and password here. Oh well. Later.
Hey, Mo, how'ya doin? Long time, long time. So, how's work? Uh huh, and the family? How's, ah, y'know, whats-her-name? Still, um, doing the same stuff? Yeah, and, ah, you wouldn't happen to have an account for the OED's site, would'ya? I just want to use it this one time, honest....
posted by mattpfeff at 9:06 AM on November 13, 2001
Dang. I was hoping you'd drop your username and password here. Oh well. Later.
Hey, Mo, how'ya doin? Long time, long time. So, how's work? Uh huh, and the family? How's, ah, y'know, whats-her-name? Still, um, doing the same stuff? Yeah, and, ah, you wouldn't happen to have an account for the OED's site, would'ya? I just want to use it this one time, honest....
posted by mattpfeff at 9:06 AM on November 13, 2001
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posted by walrus at 8:01 AM on November 12, 2001