Time stamps disagree with profile March 9, 2008 9:40 AM   Subscribe

The time stamp for a comment / post no longer agrees with the displayed server time / preferences time in the user profile.

For example, at the time I post this user profile reports that the current server time and my preferences time are both 10:40 AM (they're the same since my time offset is +0). However, brand new comments on MeFi and AskMeFi (and presumably this post on MetaTalk) appear with a time stamp around 9:40 AM. The time in the user profile is correct, but time stamp for comments is wrong. Presumably related to the change to Daylight Saving Time, possibly related to the fact that DST was changed this year (in the US). Perhaps the time on the MeFi database server differs from the MeFi application server?
posted by RichardP to Bugs at 9:40 AM (26 comments total)

If I remember correclty, the problem is specifically that, yes, we just switched over to DST in (most of) the US, including server time; and that Matt, rather than trying to put together a perfect time-zone-aware system that would change offsets automatically for people based on their stated location, opted to just let everybody who isn't in a DST zone change their offset manually twice a year.

Horrifically Americocentric, yes. Also kind of pragmatic, given how much of the mefi userbase lives in US DST territory.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:27 AM on March 9, 2008


It also breaks the links and comments since your last visit.
posted by netbros at 10:38 AM on March 9, 2008


cortex, you've misunderstood my bug report. I'm not saying that the time offset in my preferences has to be manually adjusted, I'm saying that the time text displayed in the user profile does not match with what will actually be used by server.

For example, my profile currently says "(current server time: 11:49 AM)" and "(your preferences time: 11:49 AM)", but this does not match with what will actually be displayed on a comment (which for this comment presumably will be 10:49 AM).
posted by RichardP at 10:49 AM on March 9, 2008


Also kind of pragmatic, given how much of the mefi userbase lives in US DST territory.
Yar boo sucks to you lot and your hegemony. Greenwich Mean Time ftw.
posted by bonaldi at 10:57 AM on March 9, 2008


Hmm. The in-thread timestamps are correct, but the live preview is an hour forward.
/insert high-comedy posting-in-the-future joeks.
posted by bonaldi at 10:58 AM on March 9, 2008


As another example of the apparent disagreement between the MeFi database and the MeFi application, right after posting my comment above, it showed up in my Recent Activity as occurring "An hour ago."
posted by RichardP at 11:00 AM on March 9, 2008


Yeah, I see what you mean now, RichardP. Hrm!
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:28 AM on March 9, 2008


Yep, the time was off on the db server, and the time synchronization service wasn't working for some reason. I set the time ahead manually, so the times should start lining up going forward. Seems like there's always some glitch on time-shift days.
posted by pb (staff) at 1:39 PM on March 9, 2008


Greenwich Mean Time ftw.

Coordinated Universal Time now, sorry.
posted by grouse at 1:55 PM on March 9, 2008


I prefer to think of it as "Greenwich Great Big Jerk Time".
posted by cortex (staff) at 2:26 PM on March 9, 2008 [1 favorite]


Coordinated Universal Time now, sorry.
No apology necessary. Still has people who live near me using REAL TIME with no adding or taking away, which makes people who live near me miles better than other peoples with lazy time-zone coding, or just other peoples in general.
posted by bonaldi at 2:51 PM on March 9, 2008


Until 30 March, when summer time begins again.
posted by grouse at 3:03 PM on March 9, 2008


Totally off-topic, RichardP: Hey, you fought wiki spam, didn't you? Thank you for putting up a fight for as long as you did.
posted by Pronoiac at 3:15 PM on March 9, 2008


"I prefer to think of it as 'Greenwich Great Big Jerk-off Time'."
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:36 PM on March 9, 2008


"I prefer to think of it as 'Greenwich Great Big Jerk-off Time'."

Want to come back to my place and synchronize Swatches?
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:55 PM on March 9, 2008 [1 favorite]


Want to come back to my place and synchronize Swatches?

Depends on whether or not he's willing to cross the International Date Line.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:17 PM on March 9, 2008


synchronizing Swatches:
I was going to get you the nicest present -- I just spent 40 minutes of my precious life searching for a picture, which I SWEAR is out there somewhere, of Wil Wheaton or similar teen star from the 1980s, in Teen Beat or some magazine like that, wearing a bunch of Swatch watches. But accursed google is conspiring to hide this image from me. So you'll just have to imagine it, unless one of you can find it.
posted by LobsterMitten at 5:41 PM on March 9, 2008


Wah! victory!
posted by LobsterMitten at 5:42 PM on March 9, 2008


Does it say "PARTY NAKED" on Wil Wheaton's pants?
posted by tractorfeed at 7:38 PM on March 9, 2008


Wow - I believe it does.
Party naked, Pink Floyd, [heart] Laura?, [?] Loves Jezebel, Surfers [something], [something] Rules...
The real question is, did a magazine costume person make those jeans? We must assume so, yes?
posted by LobsterMitten at 7:44 PM on March 9, 2008


This is just another example of progress gone mad! Resurrect the time balls, I say.
posted by tellurian at 8:57 PM on March 9, 2008


quick note to let LobsterMitten know that I clicked on and appreciated his/her link.

carry on
posted by thatwhichfalls at 9:11 PM on March 9, 2008


thank you - it was hard-won, so I'm glad someone appreciated it.
posted by LobsterMitten at 9:20 PM on March 9, 2008


Wil Wheaton or similar teen star from the 1980s, in Teen Beat or some magazine like that, wearing a bunch of Swatch watches.

Funny, I assumed they were going to be on his arms.
posted by Tehanu at 10:07 PM on March 9, 2008


Totally off-topic, RichardP: Hey, you fought wiki spam, didn't you? Thank you for putting up a fight for as long as you did.

Yeah, that was me. My software patrolled hundreds of wiki's 24/7 for about two years, back when the Pollyannaish open editing policies of the original wiki software packages first began being exploited by spammers. I eventually took the software offline due to the fact that: (1) the latest wiki packages had long since incorporated user accounts and their own anti-spam features, (2) pretty much any wiki that was going to upgrade had since upgraded, (3) my ISP was getting increasingly twitchy about the hollow threats I (and they) were receiving from spammers, and (4) the bandwidth required had gotten completely out of hand.
posted by RichardP at 10:43 PM on March 9, 2008


Greenwich Mean Time ftw.

grouse: Coordinated Universal Time now, sorry.

I prefer to think of it as Zulu time. Not because I'm in the military or civil aviation, but because I like to imagine a universe where old school Assegai wielding bad-asses are the guardians of perfect-accuracy time keeping.
posted by quin at 8:43 AM on March 10, 2008


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