pathetic insensitive March 28, 2008 11:45 AM   Subscribe

This project is offensive beyond the pale for those who worship the Son of God, and who are grateful He gave His life and defeated death.

While people are evidently allowed to broadcast their insensitive and tasteless hate and "humour" like this regarding someone elses faith, I should be allowed to express my view also. And I am. And you've heard it.
posted by survivorman to Etiquette/Policy at 11:45 AM (100 comments total) 6 users marked this as a favorite

It's nice of you to give the project much more exposure than it would have had otherwise.
posted by dersins at 11:49 AM on March 28, 2008 [14 favorites]


Okay wait! Everyone take a deep breath and really think about it before you respond to this.
posted by ND¢ at 11:50 AM on March 28, 2008 [3 favorites]


Wait-- weren't you banned under, like, two or three account names already?
posted by dersins at 11:51 AM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


So?
posted by OmieWise at 11:51 AM on March 28, 2008 [3 favorites]


I really feel like I should write a song for this project.
posted by InfidelZombie at 11:53 AM on March 28, 2008 [4 favorites]


Is there a way to get software to flag this mefi project automatically? My church and I would like to help the police flag this kind of thing in our community before anyone else sends us stolen laptops from eBay.
posted by Greg Nog at 11:54 AM on March 28, 2008 [57 favorites]


Why is it offensive?
posted by JanetLand at 11:55 AM on March 28, 2008


Zombie Jesus is only after brains. You needn’t worry.
posted by bondcliff at 11:57 AM on March 28, 2008 [27 favorites]


Okay wait! Everyone take a deep breath and really think about it before you respond to this.

Gahhh! Why did you have to DO this?
posted by Krrrlson at 11:58 AM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


I'm helping?
posted by ND¢ at 11:59 AM on March 28, 2008


I think this is one of those times when you just have to be offended. Seriously.
posted by dirtdirt at 12:00 PM on March 28, 2008


I should be allowed to express my view also. And I am. And you've heard it.

There is a more effective way to stop such a project from gaining ground - stop giving it more attention. I never would have heard about it if you hadn't posted about it here and now I kind of want to see it (and I'm a pretty big fan of Jesus, myself.)
posted by LeeJay at 12:00 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


I guess you wouldn't have enjoyed the annual Hunky Jesus Contest [photos] held in S.F.'s Dolores Park last weekend.
posted by ericb at 12:00 PM on March 28, 2008


Wait-- weren't you banned under, like, two or three account names already?

Ah, yes. You were indeed, weren't you?
posted by dersins at 12:00 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


If this project somehow involves Zombie Jesus eating the brains of Dan Brown, I just might not get annoyed that it's a project asking metafilter to give it money.
posted by Stynxno at 12:01 PM on March 28, 2008


This is a user's project and the best place to give feedback is on the projects page itself.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 12:02 PM on March 28, 2008


take a deep breath and really think about it

What's funny is that that period of thought made me much angrier.

survivorman, do you have a course of action you'd like any/all of us to pursue? If I was being a flip asshole before, it's because I feel like you haven't left us much of an opening for a genuine conversation about this.
posted by Greg Nog at 12:02 PM on March 28, 2008


A song for song parody of Jesus Christ Superstar

You did save the other gunbarrel of outrage for Andrew Lloyd Webber, right?
posted by gnomeloaf at 12:02 PM on March 28, 2008 [3 favorites]


No one's claiming there was an actual zombie Jesus. The project falls under what's known as "fiction" and/or, parody. Similar to the infamous cartoons that made thousands of halfwits shoot people and set things on fire.

Religion really is a refuge for the humorless.
posted by deern the headlice at 12:03 PM on March 28, 2008 [4 favorites]


You did save the other gunbarrel of outrage for Andrew Lloyd Webber, right?

Doesn't everybody? All the time? Everywhere?
posted by LeeJay at 12:04 PM on March 28, 2008 [4 favorites]


There is a more effective way to stop such a project from gaining ground - stop giving it more attention.

True.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 12:04 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Yeah, this project is pretty blasphemous. Which is why I am ignoring it.

But, unlike Baal, Jesus really is Lord, and I think He can take care of this sort of thing Himself on His own schedule.
posted by konolia at 12:05 PM on March 28, 2008 [30 favorites]


I've always had a weird amount of affection for Jesus Christ Superstar. Especially Gethsemene.

Odd that, considering my militant atheism.
posted by John Kenneth Fisher at 12:06 PM on March 28, 2008 [3 favorites]


You do realize you could have me.mailed the big guy and asked him about how he feels about the whole thing, right?
posted by Stynxno at 12:07 PM on March 28, 2008


Consider this pair of quotes:

"God is dead."
- Nietzsche

"Nietzche is dead."
-God
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:08 PM on March 28, 2008


JESUS WAS A GAY BLACK MAN.
posted by loquacious at 12:08 PM on March 28, 2008 [7 favorites]


survivorman: ..."for those who worship the Son of God" ...

What does this have to do with Ganesh?
posted by [@I][:+:][@I] at 12:09 PM on March 28, 2008 [23 favorites]


I mean, seriously. How else could he be the perfect Son of God?
posted by loquacious at 12:09 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Boomstick
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 12:10 PM on March 28, 2008 [8 favorites]


Do not bear a grudge against others, but settle your differences with them, so that you will not commit a sin because of them. Do not take revenge on others or continue to hate them, but love your neighbors as you love yourself.
posted by seanyboy at 12:10 PM on March 28, 2008 [12 favorites]


But, unlike Baal, Jesus really is Lord, and I think He can take care of this sort of thing Himself on His own schedule.

That sentence is offensive beyond the pale for those who worship the Son of El, and who are grateful He gave us rain, thunder, fertility and agriculture.
posted by ND¢ at 12:10 PM on March 28, 2008 [44 favorites]


Jesus Dress-up (from Normal Bob Smith)! Previously - 1, 2, 3.
posted by ericb at 12:10 PM on March 28, 2008


I should be allowed to express my view also. And I am. And you've heard it.

Uh...okay. Did anyone ever suggest you're not allowed to express your view? Is there some reason that the fact that you find this offensive should concern other members of this site? Or are you just wasting our time with your precious, offended self, that secretly pines for the days when blasphemers like this would have been strung up like they deserved?

God is undead. We have ki- uh, nevermind.
posted by Dasein at 12:10 PM on March 28, 2008

I think He can take care of this sort of thing Himself on His own schedule.
I can give an amen to that.
posted by MrMoonPie at 12:11 PM on March 28, 2008


So...this is pretty blatant trolling, yes? Am I missing something here, or does someone really think there's anything remotely good faith about this post?
posted by kittens for breakfast at 12:12 PM on March 28, 2008 [3 favorites]


You do realize you could have me.mailed the big guy and asked him about how he feels about the whole thing, right?

Wait, there's been a coup and Cortex is The Man now? Or is this a Holy Trinity thang that I wouldn't understand?
posted by lukemeister at 12:12 PM on March 28, 2008


JESUS WAS A GAY BLACK MAN.

You're fucked.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 12:12 PM on March 28, 2008


Well, to this atheist Jesus Christ Superstar seems to be largely about how Judas was misunderstood, and most of the other followers come off as kind of sycophantic, so I'm not sure that it's that much in line with the Christian mainstream. Also: Incredibly funky baseline!
posted by Artw at 12:13 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


LOL...something. Wait, what are we mocking again?
posted by Skorgu at 12:13 PM on March 28, 2008


Does someone really think there's anything remotely good faith about this post?

Oh my word, no. Clearly trolling, or trying to support a project no one would have seen otherwise.
posted by John Kenneth Fisher at 12:13 PM on March 28, 2008 [3 favorites]


Oh my word, no. Clearly trolling, or trying to support a project no one would have seen otherwise.

Oooh, yeah, you're probably right, which means I have taken the bait once again. But that means he's a filthy self-linker so I can still tut-tut, right?

(I support Zombie Jesus in '08!)
posted by LeeJay at 12:16 PM on March 28, 2008


You'd have preferred Pirate Jesus, Ninja Jesus or Robot Jesus?
posted by klangklangston at 12:17 PM on March 28, 2008


Eponysterical.

Plus, I think this counts as the most grudging acceptance of the principle of free speech I have ever read.
posted by WPW at 12:17 PM on March 28, 2008


You'd have preferred Pirate Jesus, Ninja Jesus or Robot Jesus?

Do we really have to choose? Pirate Ninja Robot Zombie Jesus.
posted by LeeJay at 12:19 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


Yes, even trolls have a God, and apparently He has forsaken them.
posted by R. Mutt at 12:19 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


Nerf® Jesus!
posted by Skorgu at 12:20 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I AM OUTRAGED! I DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING TO BE DONE ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I. AM. NOT. HAPPY. THERE. I DID IT.
posted by shmegegge at 12:20 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


Jesus Christ, Son of God...please spare me from everyone who follows you.
posted by nevercalm at 12:22 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]




Why is this a metatalk post, survivorman? You're welcome to leave feedback, positive or otherwise, on the post itself, which isn't news to you since a quick peek behind the scenes shows you did just that fifteen minutes before you made this post. Beyond that, you can flag a project just like any other post or comment here, you could email the author if you wanted to have an actual conversation about it with them, and if you've got a specific issue that none of the above covers you could drop a note into the contact form to give us a heads up.

Shouting your opinion in Metatalk and then apparently disappearing for a half an hour (so far) right after posting isn't really seeming like a constructive path to take. We can try leaving this open, but it'd be nice to know what exactly you were expecting from the community with this.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:23 PM on March 28, 2008


Wow, another inflammatory religious protestation by an OP who drops a bomb and never returns to the thread. I'm sensing a trend here.

Maybe it's best we just close this thread, and forgo another opportunity for epic lulz.
posted by slogger at 12:23 PM on March 28, 2008


You do realize you could have me.mailed the big guy and asked him about how he feels about the whole thing, right?
posted by Stynxno at 2:07 PM on March 28


I would just like to go on record as saying that Jesus H. Shatner is the best username in the history of the internet.
posted by adamdschneider at 12:24 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Yes! I'm in before it closes.
posted by Mister_A at 12:28 PM on March 28, 2008


From his LinkedIN profile (or his sons or his dad's):

Writer, website designer, SEO specialist and fitness enthusiast interested in collaboration and cross linking with similar and neutral websites.

While he does list "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints" as his group, so he could actually be a pissed off person, the fact that he is also an SEO specialist may also mean he is somehow involved in promoting this with Clay, who signed up just to post this:

However, Clay, who has just signed up to add his page to the projects section has one forward and reverse mutual contact, which is Robocop is Bleeding. (he does appear legit, according to his profile page).
posted by mrzarquon at 12:29 PM on March 28, 2008


Best $5 Clay ever spent.
posted by vacapinta at 12:29 PM on March 28, 2008


Did somebody say Zombie Jesus?
posted by juliplease at 12:30 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Lighten up, Francis.
posted by psmealey at 12:30 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


... Midnight, and the kitties are sleeping
downstairs by the furnace
while birdies are cheeping.

posted by y2karl at 12:31 PM on March 28, 2008


It is also offensive to zombies, but not one of you motherfuckers has said one word about that, because you are so full of anti-zombie prejudices that not one of you can step up and point out all the great things zombies have done for humanity. Well, I spit on you, or would, anyway, were my spit glands not decayed.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:33 PM on March 28, 2008 [39 favorites]


I've always had a weird amount of affection for Jesus Christ Superstar. Especially Gethsemene.

Odd that, considering my militant atheism.


Why should that be odd? JCS is fucking awesome.

Also thanks for posting this thread, I never would've seen that project otherwise.
posted by ludwig_van at 12:33 PM on March 28, 2008


WWZJD?
posted by veedubya at 12:33 PM on March 28, 2008


This might be a good time for me to say that I just don't get the concept of the trinity. To me it is one of those things that makes lots of sense until you actually think about it.
posted by found missing at 12:33 PM on March 28, 2008


Christ, what an asshole.
posted by box at 12:34 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Christ: what an asshole.
posted by item at 12:35 PM on March 28, 2008 [11 favorites]


I think survivorman is trying to tell us -

1) There are things said about Jesus on the intranet that offend him.
2) That's just wrong. And he's not happy about it.

Fair enough. Not much to disagree with there.
posted by Ragma at 12:35 PM on March 28, 2008


Nerf® Jesus!-some guy on internet.

Jesus should be nerfed, he's more ridiculous than Superman, with the walking on water, the transmutation of things into other things, curing people of restless legs syndrome, ability to create a rock so huge that even He can't lift it (this last was conclusively proven in the XIII Convocation of Pope St. Pius XII in Ghent), and so forth. Jesus needs an arch-enemy, maybe someone in a red outfit, with some sort of multi-pronged weapon, perhaps...

Also, Jesus should be vulnerable to kryptonite and fart jokes.
posted by Mister_A at 12:35 PM on March 28, 2008


If God had a daughter, well maybe I would at least think about it.
posted by R. Mutt at 12:36 PM on March 28, 2008


Frankly I'd trust the word of a religious fundamentalist before that of an SEO Specialist.
posted by deern the headlice at 12:37 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


But of course, no studio in their right mind would touch this with a 100 foot pole

God that project/plea for money is offensive to people who don't like lameness.
posted by ND¢ at 12:38 PM on March 28, 2008


Dang, survivorman. I guess you don't want an invitation to the "Dead Meat on a Stick" party that gets thrown around here every spring equinox.
posted by telstar at 12:38 PM on March 28, 2008


Fair Game

I think this post originated in Wyoming.
posted by lukemeister at 12:39 PM on March 28, 2008


This project is offensive beyond the pale for those who worship the Son of God, and who are grateful He gave His life and defeated death.

That's such a weird way to frame a complaint. I mean, I know they are the tenants of Christianity, but if you don't share them, it sounds like someone is demanding that a satire be suppressed because they offend the crazy: "This project is offensive to those of us who think the moon is a giant breast and worship it as we wait for the coming of its milky earth nourishment."
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:43 PM on March 28, 2008 [17 favorites]


The little known fact is that Jesus was God's only begotten son, but, he also begot a daughter. Unfortunately, she suffered perinatal brain damage due to a restrictively small maternal (virginal) birth canal and spent the majority of her life in a residential care facility in Wisconsin until her death on January 5, 2005.
posted by found missing at 12:46 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


I'm a little surprised that, a full hour after this Metatalk post was made, the project in question has still not been posted to the front page. Good show of restraint, guys!
posted by mr_roboto at 12:46 PM on March 28, 2008


I know they are the tenants of Christianity

Jesus is (slum)Lord.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 12:48 PM on March 28, 2008 [13 favorites]


What do the tenants of Christianity pay a month?
posted by everichon at 12:50 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


This callout is itself an affront to Satan, and all those who have renounced their faith in the false christian prophets and now worship at the dark altar of the Fallen One the true King of Kings, the One to whom we all belong whether we serve Him willingly or not.
posted by psmealey at 12:52 PM on March 28, 2008 [4 favorites]


I'm Catholic and far from offended. Really, I eat stuff like this up. Mmmmm, tastey!

And, why should I care? It's not like this is going to weaken my faith. And I don't see it casting any more doubt on those who don't believe.

I'm not the one supposedly blaspheming. It's someone else, and that's between them and God, not between you; God; and myself.
posted by jmd82 at 12:52 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


I should be allowed to express my view also. And I am. And my opinion is, "meh?"
posted by Pollomacho at 12:53 PM on March 28, 2008


Wow, another inflammatory religious protestation by an OP who drops a bomb and never returns to the thread. I'm sensing a trend here.

The whole post-the-thread-about-how-you-are-offended-and-then-leave routine is very in character. It is indicative of this attitude of "I am right and I am so sure I am right that I don't have to sit here and listen to you tell me I am wrong and there is no point in talking to a bunch of unsaved heathens that are soon to be in hell anyway, so I am just going to let you know what the truth is and you should just accept it and there is no point in discussing it and so I will not discuss it with you." So, lolxtians, when you get mad about how people on the internet give you a hard time and don't treat your personal faith as if it were absolute truth, this is one of the reasons why.
posted by ND¢ at 12:56 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


It is indicative of this attitude of "I am right..."

It might be indicative of "I am bored...", no? What do we call the appetite of trolls? Not hunger, not thirst, but...HEY WE NEED A NEOLOGISM DOWN HERE.
posted by everichon at 12:58 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


What do we call the appetite of trolls?

The trolls who guard bridges like to eat billy goats.
posted by amyms at 1:02 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


Zombie Jesus wants you to turn the other cheek SO HE CAN FINISH EATING YOUR FACE.
posted by The Straightener at 1:03 PM on March 28, 2008 [60 favorites]


Dersins' point that Survivorman has already been banned under three other user names is a pretty darn important point here. It's Brand New Day, not Brand New Week , greedy guts!
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 1:04 PM on March 28, 2008


Ass! What a Christ hole.
posted by vrakatar at 1:06 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


everi, you're thinking of trollendurst verrücktheit! That is the name of the unseemly trollsome appetite.
posted by Mister_A at 1:08 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


People actually read projects.metafilter.com?
posted by oaf at 1:08 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


The trolls who guard bridges like to eat billy goats.

No, these trolls.
posted by Pollomacho at 1:08 PM on March 28, 2008


Oh, and trolls lust, as opposted to hunger or thirst.
posted by Pollomacho at 1:09 PM on March 28, 2008


How, exactly, is rising from the grave not a sign of zombiism?

Also: Who ate your brain?
posted by Sys Rq at 1:10 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


It's too bad Seatle's own polterchrist never made it past post-production.
posted by nomisxid at 1:12 PM on March 28, 2008


This project is offensive beyond the pale for those who worship the Son of God, and who are grateful He gave His life and defeated death.

Using the language of your own statement, the post is offensive to people who worship the Son of God, but not God himself. While almost every Christian faith makes it a sin to offend God, I don't know of any Christian faith that prohibits offending Christians. In fact, the new testament makes it clear that Christians are to turn the other cheek.

So within the confines of your own belief system, the project you linked to is acceptable, as it only offends Christians, who are given no special protection from offense under the New Testament.

It's perfectly normal, of course, to question one's own beliefs. But please don't use Metafilter as a public forum for your crisis of faith.
posted by Pastabagel at 1:12 PM on March 28, 2008 [17 favorites]


Holy crap! Here I was, feeling kinda bad that my friend's project wasn't getting much attention and you come along and make everything awesome.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:13 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


No worries, Nunzilla will save you from Zombie Jesus!
posted by Marie Mon Dieu at 1:13 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


Man. I wish someone would get so offended by my project that they'd post it to metatalk. I mean, seriously. it's so offensive. please be offended?
posted by Baby_Balrog at 1:13 PM on March 28, 2008 [1 favorite]


"And if your eye offend you, pluck it out, and cast it from you..." No wait. Ignore that kind of advice. The source is not to be trusted.
posted by Free word order! at 1:16 PM on March 28, 2008


Account's disabled.
posted by oaf at 1:17 PM on March 28, 2008


survivorman's account is disabled (either by himself or Matt, Jess or Cortex) so he won't be responding soon...
posted by Huw at 1:17 PM on March 28, 2008


Brevity: faster.
posted by oaf at 1:18 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


This MeTa thread has unfortunately drawn our attention to the fact that this particular user has a few sock puppets which have been cross-voting on each other's projects which is pretty much totaly against the rules and ban worthy. So, sorry to break up everyone's fun, but once we've banned the account with the [pseudo] complaint it's polite to close the thread before the impending pile-on.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 1:21 PM on March 28, 2008 [2 favorites]


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