from a comfortable turret April 8, 2008 8:23 AM Subscribe
You're a junior in a liberal arts program and you think you've got a career?
35 years after having had a vasectomy, you want children? Have you picked up a new trophy wife, or something, HuronBob?
Wow, someone's got his panties in a knot over this. I guess we hit some sort of nerve.
Maybe, but maybe you could be a little nicer Hildegarde
Links, or it never happened.
Related.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:29 AM on April 8, 2008 [1 favorite]
Related.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:29 AM on April 8, 2008 [1 favorite]
I think we should have a day, one day, where everyone puts all their grudges out on the table. 24 hours of Metatalk grudges. After 24 hours, the threads are closed and deleted, and everybody gets a completely brand new day from that point forward. Of course, this will render some users completely mute, as it seems there are those who love nothing better than digging up old, tired shit, but I think their loss will only be our gain.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 8:38 AM on April 8, 2008 [7 favorites]
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 8:38 AM on April 8, 2008 [7 favorites]
Yeah, I'm really not seeing what's up here. That "panties in a knot" quote is from METATALK (a 444 comment MeTa) where it's totally okay to say things like that. It was also from December. The trophy wife comment was from January and the first quote seems pretty tame even for MetaFilter. Snarky not abusive.
This was something that came up in another MeTa this week. Cherrypicking a user's old comments just to prove some sort of point about them [unless you're refuting someone's "I never said that!" argument] is generally sort of distasteful. While I think we have to own the words we type here, it's also acceptable to change your mind, alter/adjust your opinion, or just decide your presentation left something to be desired. You should be able to do that without someone saying "Oh yeah but you said THIS five months ago"
If Hildegarde was showing a pattern of being abusive or annoying or over the top snarky without having made any other comments, I'd definitely be all for saying she should tone it down some, but I'm not seeing that here. If you have an argument to that effect, I'd love more in the way of explanation.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:43 AM on April 8, 2008 [1 favorite]
This was something that came up in another MeTa this week. Cherrypicking a user's old comments just to prove some sort of point about them [unless you're refuting someone's "I never said that!" argument] is generally sort of distasteful. While I think we have to own the words we type here, it's also acceptable to change your mind, alter/adjust your opinion, or just decide your presentation left something to be desired. You should be able to do that without someone saying "Oh yeah but you said THIS five months ago"
If Hildegarde was showing a pattern of being abusive or annoying or over the top snarky without having made any other comments, I'd definitely be all for saying she should tone it down some, but I'm not seeing that here. If you have an argument to that effect, I'd love more in the way of explanation.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:43 AM on April 8, 2008 [1 favorite]
Three kinda mean/snarky/jokey comments over a five-month period? This is the best example of bad behavior you could find?
posted by rtha at 8:44 AM on April 8, 2008
posted by rtha at 8:44 AM on April 8, 2008
Yeah, I'm pretty stumped by this. I'm pretty sure I've dropped more and worse shit than this in the last five months. Why does this need a public callout?
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:45 AM on April 8, 2008
posted by cortex (staff) at 8:45 AM on April 8, 2008
I think I was more objectionable and rude before I even made it down the stairs this morning.
posted by docpops at 8:46 AM on April 8, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by docpops at 8:46 AM on April 8, 2008 [2 favorites]
maybe cut her some slack if she snipes at drama queens
I think it's some pretty weak, but using things read on someone's blog to defend or justify their actions or behavior on MeFi is as inappropriate as using them to attack, IMO.
'...drama queens', Burhanistan?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:47 AM on April 8, 2008
I think it's some pretty weak, but using things read on someone's blog to defend or justify their actions or behavior on MeFi is as inappropriate as using them to attack, IMO.
'...drama queens', Burhanistan?
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:47 AM on April 8, 2008
D'oh, "I think it's some pretty weak snark..."
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:48 AM on April 8, 2008
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:48 AM on April 8, 2008
After 24 hours, the threads are closed and deleted, and everybody gets a completely brand new day from that point forward.
Damn it, where's the Brand New Day image... come back fandango_matt!
posted by ALongDecember at 8:52 AM on April 8, 2008
Damn it, where's the Brand New Day image... come back fandango_matt!
posted by ALongDecember at 8:52 AM on April 8, 2008
but using things read on someone's blog to defend or justify their actions or behavior on MeFi is as inappropriate as using them to attack, IMO.
Actually, usually that's okay if all you're saying is "hey cut them a little slack" as in this case. People going over the top is still against the rules but if they're just pricklier than normal and there may be a reason, that's sort of a lot of why the site has moderators and MeTa instead of comment-deleting/editing/banning robots with laser precision. Everyone here (almost everyone?) has a life outside of MeFi and there's often sloppy overlap. I'm going to close this up, I don't understand what is doing here.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:54 AM on April 8, 2008 [2 favorites]
Actually, usually that's okay if all you're saying is "hey cut them a little slack" as in this case. People going over the top is still against the rules but if they're just pricklier than normal and there may be a reason, that's sort of a lot of why the site has moderators and MeTa instead of comment-deleting/editing/banning robots with laser precision. Everyone here (almost everyone?) has a life outside of MeFi and there's often sloppy overlap. I'm going to close this up, I don't understand what is doing here.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:54 AM on April 8, 2008 [2 favorites]
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posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:27 AM on April 8, 2008