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Yeah, can we please fix this?blockquotea code block
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br tags interpolated into the actual text).without any carriage returnswhatsoever, and the overall spacing comes out pretty okay.
Is it kind of dickish to characterize a polite request as "whining"? I think it is.Well languagehat is correct you'd have to be some kind of idiot to add unnecessary line breaks.
text with spaces before it, in code tagsmore text with spaces before, in pre tagsAnd what's with the extra space around the pre tags? It's like blockquote all over again.
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s/\s+<\/(p|blockquote|div|ul|ol|li)>/<\/$1>/ig; blockquotein the middle of your text, it looks fine, but if you
add unnecessary line breaksaround it, it acquires the extra space being complained about. And try not to be such a dick, ok?
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Oh, give me a fucking break. What, it's OK for you to repeat yourself endlessly but no one else can get a word in edgewise?Well, in a perfect world... But seriously, in the comment I linked to above I was answering a question you asked.
It's not a stupid objection, it's perfectly sensible. Here, let me spell it out for you:Thank you. I mean it. For the first time you've actually given a rationale of sorts for your position on this issue, instead of making some snarky, dismissive remark, which is what I was objecting to.
1) Blockquote is not often used.I wonder if that's because of the way it looks if you don't know the little trick for avoiding the excess vertical space. If you're quoting more than a sentence or two, you should use it (the MetaFilter Wiki notwithstanding).
I'm fond of it myself, and for that reason I learned early on how to do it in the MeFi context, [...]If you figured it out own your own, I'm impressed. It's not trivial for someone with no technical background to do that. I think that if this doesn't get fixed pretty soon, the trick should be documented in the HTML help.
[...] but it's quite possible to go through one's entire MeFi existence without ever even noticing this alleged problem.I notice the problem with other people's posts all the time.
2) I understand the point about how people familiar with coding expect things to work, but frankly that's their problem. It is easy to make blockquote work in MeFi. How it works elsewhere is not especially relevant.It's easy only if you know the trick. Initially, this requires knowing (or suspecting) that there is a trick and either figuring it out for yourself or searching MetaTalk (or maybe AskMetafilter) to find it.
3) There are actual problems that need fixing, so why fixate on a nonproblem that doesn't?The distinction between "actual" and "non-" problem is in the eye of the beholder. If you tell me the problems you consider to be of higher priority than this one, I'd be surprised if there were many on which I'd agree with you. AmbroseChapel makes a similar point in an earlier comment.
Mind you, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with making the grousers happy, and I'm glad pb is going to do so.Thanks.
I just thought, and continue to think, the issue has been overblown, and I don't appreciate the insults for daring to differ from your opinion.The insult was not for your difference of opinion, but for being a dick about it. ("Is that so hard?" "I don't understand all the whining about blockquote")
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Thanks to thsi thread I didn't fuck up PRE this time when i used it. I'll prbably forget next time though.And then there was this other comment, which is as follows:
I don't want to sound like I'm begging for more and more features, since it's awesome that you we have this at all. But it would be great -- ultimately -- to NOT parse greater-and-less-than symbols inside pre tags.And all was well.
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MAIN STARKS AND TULLYS
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Why does Mr. Martin kill off so many of his main characters, anyway?(I hope that's not a spoiler for anyone.)
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posted by Pronoiac at 10:17 PM on May 25