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Deleted post shows up on Front Page shadowed out. Cool. Is this only visible to the original poster, or for the OP and anyone who made a comment in the thread? Thanks.
BTW I'm chuckling at being reprimanded for calling it "Faux News" - I don't read Daily Kos, or another other political site (other than perhaps MeFi), just happened to see the name somewhere recently and thought it was funny. It really is a clever pun. Oh well. Sorry. Don't want any trouble and won't do it again.
posted by stbalbach at 10:58 AM on November 25, 2008
posted by stbalbach at 10:58 AM on November 25, 2008
Good job, guys. Now you're going to get 100 LOLFARTS posts today from people who want to see what the grayed-out posts look like.
posted by roll truck roll at 11:05 AM on November 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by roll truck roll at 11:05 AM on November 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
It's not like a firm reprimand, but, yeah, eesh. Stumbling innocent upon it as you may be, it's a tired old saw from a tired old ever-expanding family of dumb placeholders. cf. Amerikkka, Bill O'Really, DemoRats, and a bevy of other equally not-clever-enough-to-bear-the-juvenile-reptition witticisms that litter a lot of blogs and forums out in the world. Blech. The day that becomes baseline discourse around here is the day I ask Matt to start talks with Yahoo.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:27 AM on November 25, 2008
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:27 AM on November 25, 2008
Your 'screenshot' link appears to be bitfarked.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 11:27 AM on November 25, 2008
posted by Kirth Gerson at 11:27 AM on November 25, 2008
Pfft, typical nannying from boretex.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:35 AM on November 25, 2008 [8 favorites]
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:35 AM on November 25, 2008 [8 favorites]
Coretex, well, I guess I felt guilty about linking to Fox News in the blue and wanted to head it off it a little because I figured I would get "Fox News? Phtt" type responses. In particular when you consider Schiff's politics being more to the right than left and he being very down on Obama, I assumed he would not go down well as a reliable Fox News talking head expert. So the dig on Fox was to assure readers I was not partisan or anything, but it seems to have backfired.
posted by stbalbach at 11:44 AM on November 25, 2008
posted by stbalbach at 11:44 AM on November 25, 2008
So the dig on Fox was to assure readers I was not partisan or anything...
No. Clearly you were trying to assure everyone that you were partisan in the right way
posted by no1hatchling at 11:49 AM on November 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
No. Clearly you were trying to assure everyone that you were partisan in the right way
posted by no1hatchling at 11:49 AM on November 25, 2008 [2 favorites]
Amerikkka is from the 80's and I'm sad to see it get swept up in the recent resurgent sheeple stampede.
posted by cashman at 11:51 AM on November 25, 2008
posted by cashman at 11:51 AM on November 25, 2008
stbalbach, yeah, I can dig the instinct, I just think the result is pretty silly and makes this place look sillier as a result. If folks are going to have "Fox News? Phtt" responses, that's the response they're going to have and so be it; dressing the link up in clown make-up doesn't change the source or the likely reactions to the source, I don't think.
I'd rather see people take an extra clause or sentence or paragraph (though ideally not in the body of a post, maybe a comment later on if it feels necessary) to explain their feelings about a source or person or topic than toss in some silly winking euphemism. It makes for better conversation and doesn't set up the same amount of audible wincing.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:25 PM on November 25, 2008
I'd rather see people take an extra clause or sentence or paragraph (though ideally not in the body of a post, maybe a comment later on if it feels necessary) to explain their feelings about a source or person or topic than toss in some silly winking euphemism. It makes for better conversation and doesn't set up the same amount of audible wincing.
posted by cortex (staff) at 12:25 PM on November 25, 2008
Can we add "You aren't the first one to see this feature" in font-size: 150% to the deletion reasons to try to head off more of these threads?
posted by Plutor at 12:35 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Plutor at 12:35 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
Amerikkka is from the 80's and I'm sad to see it get swept up in the recent resurgent sheeple stampede.
Seriously, guys, I've asked before for you to stop hurting my hand.
posted by Caduceus at 12:46 PM on November 25, 2008
Seriously, guys, I've asked before for you to stop hurting my hand.
posted by Caduceus at 12:46 PM on November 25, 2008
At least this thread wasn't another seanyboyzone one. That would be totally bitfark.
For some reason, I like to write bitfark. I'll stop now.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:56 PM on November 25, 2008
For some reason, I like to write bitfark. I'll stop now.
posted by Kirth Gerson at 12:56 PM on November 25, 2008
no1hatchling: "No. Clearly you were trying to assure everyone that you were partisan in the right way"
It's true, I am in the right way :)
posted by stbalbach at 1:25 PM on November 25, 2008
It's true, I am in the right way :)
posted by stbalbach at 1:25 PM on November 25, 2008
[Faux News] really is a clever pun
It does make it seem as though you think "faux" is pronounced the same as "fox," which allows people who realize that it isn't to feel smugly superior to you. So, win-win!
posted by kindall at 2:28 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
It does make it seem as though you think "faux" is pronounced the same as "fox," which allows people who realize that it isn't to feel smugly superior to you. So, win-win!
posted by kindall at 2:28 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
You mean it's not Phở News?
posted by lukemeister at 2:36 PM on November 25, 2008
posted by lukemeister at 2:36 PM on November 25, 2008
dressing the link up in clown make-up
Are you gonna give me the source code to pull this off, or you gonna make me beg?
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 2:37 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
Are you gonna give me the source code to pull this off, or you gonna make me beg?
posted by MiltonRandKalman at 2:37 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
There's a restaurant up the road with a sign in the window "So Phở so good".
Well, I thought it was funny...
posted by pompomtom at 3:10 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
Well, I thought it was funny...
posted by pompomtom at 3:10 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
kindall: "It does make it seem as though you think "faux" is pronounced the same as "fox," which allows people who realize that it isn't to feel smugly superior to you. So, win-win!"
Really? But that's part of the joke. Stereotypically, country-bumpkin red-stater Americans will mispronounce foreign words, like, how do you say the country called Niger? Or how many people have pronounced by last name "Ball Batch" (Ballbach). It's the low-brow side of America. Fox News is the poster child of low-brow America. And there is also the whole French thing. The pun works on a number of levels. Anyway, I hate to analyze jokes because it kills them, and maybe not everyone sees it that way.
posted by stbalbach at 3:17 PM on November 25, 2008
Really? But that's part of the joke. Stereotypically, country-bumpkin red-stater Americans will mispronounce foreign words, like, how do you say the country called Niger? Or how many people have pronounced by last name "Ball Batch" (Ballbach). It's the low-brow side of America. Fox News is the poster child of low-brow America. And there is also the whole French thing. The pun works on a number of levels. Anyway, I hate to analyze jokes because it kills them, and maybe not everyone sees it that way.
posted by stbalbach at 3:17 PM on November 25, 2008
This is what we call "overthinking a bowl of Phở."
posted by languagehat at 3:21 PM on November 25, 2008 [3 favorites]
posted by languagehat at 3:21 PM on November 25, 2008 [3 favorites]
Are you gonna give me the source code to pull this off, or you gonna make me beg?
All you had to do was ask.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:22 PM on November 25, 2008 [3 favorites]
All you had to do was ask.
posted by cortex (staff) at 3:22 PM on November 25, 2008 [3 favorites]
There's a restaurant not too far away with the name of Phở Ton. Despite this pun, my brother, who lives in Seattle, insists that Phở is pronounced "Fah."
posted by Caduceus at 3:25 PM on November 25, 2008
posted by Caduceus at 3:25 PM on November 25, 2008
I like number one, size large, which has tripe, tendon, flank and brisket. No bean sprouts for me, but lime, basil, Sriracha, fish sauce and jalapenos. Cures hangovers, too.
posted by fixedgear at 3:27 PM on November 25, 2008
posted by fixedgear at 3:27 PM on November 25, 2008
cortex,
Please make sure fixedgear gets his order within the next 10 minutes. We didn't pay the five bucks for lousy service.
posted by lukemeister at 3:31 PM on November 25, 2008
Please make sure fixedgear gets his order within the next 10 minutes. We didn't pay the five bucks for lousy service.
posted by lukemeister at 3:31 PM on November 25, 2008
You mean it's not Phở News?
Well, then it'd sound like Fuh News, which makes it sounds all, you know, fun, so there's that.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:43 PM on November 25, 2008
Well, then it'd sound like Fuh News, which makes it sounds all, you know, fun, so there's that.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:43 PM on November 25, 2008
Well, fuh, man.
posted by lukemeister at 3:47 PM on November 25, 2008
posted by lukemeister at 3:47 PM on November 25, 2008
But that's part of the joke.
A part of the joke that doesn't really work. It's a level too meta to come across that you're actually being arch. "I know 'faux' isn't pronounced 'fox' but the people I'm mocking might think that" is indistinguishable from "I don't know that 'faux' isn't pronounced 'fox'."
See, what you'd have to do is misspell "faux" phonetically the way the yokels would pronounce it, similar to the way you might write "nucular" for "nuclear." Basically, to make the joke you're trying to make, you would have to write it as "Fox News." Which it already is...
Also: WTPho
posted by kindall at 5:16 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
A part of the joke that doesn't really work. It's a level too meta to come across that you're actually being arch. "I know 'faux' isn't pronounced 'fox' but the people I'm mocking might think that" is indistinguishable from "I don't know that 'faux' isn't pronounced 'fox'."
See, what you'd have to do is misspell "faux" phonetically the way the yokels would pronounce it, similar to the way you might write "nucular" for "nuclear." Basically, to make the joke you're trying to make, you would have to write it as "Fox News." Which it already is...
Also: WTPho
posted by kindall at 5:16 PM on November 25, 2008 [1 favorite]
Basically, to make the joke you're trying to make, you would have to write it as "Fox News." Which it already is...
Well, not to put too fine a point on it (again), but actually you'd have to write it as "Folks News" (which it already is, you betcha), wouldn't you?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:59 PM on November 25, 2008
Well, not to put too fine a point on it (again), but actually you'd have to write it as "Folks News" (which it already is, you betcha), wouldn't you?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:59 PM on November 25, 2008
It just shows my farkian sensibilities that I kind of like these shirts.
posted by lukemeister at 8:16 PM on November 25, 2008
posted by lukemeister at 8:16 PM on November 25, 2008
Do you want a smack? [more inside]
Well? Do you?
posted by turgid dahlia at 8:17 PM on November 25, 2008
Well? Do you?
posted by turgid dahlia at 8:17 PM on November 25, 2008
To account for various regional variations in dialect, you may have to call it "Farks News" which might be even closer.
posted by dg at 12:04 AM on November 26, 2008
posted by dg at 12:04 AM on November 26, 2008
fixedgear wrote: I like number one, size large, which has tripe, tendon, flank and brisket.
If you're ever at Song Que on Kingsland Road in London, that's number 147 on the menu. (My friends think I'm visiting them when I go to London, but really it's that Pho, and various dishes at St. John.)
posted by jack_mo at 2:39 AM on November 26, 2008
If you're ever at Song Que on Kingsland Road in London, that's number 147 on the menu. (My friends think I'm visiting them when I go to London, but really it's that Pho, and various dishes at St. John.)
posted by jack_mo at 2:39 AM on November 26, 2008
I like Fawkes News...isn't that how it's pronounced anyway?
posted by jacalata at 3:32 AM on November 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by jacalata at 3:32 AM on November 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
dressing the link up in clown make-up doesn't change the source or the likely reactions to the source, I don't think
Quite right. You can dress a pig in lipstick, but it's still a pig.
posted by flabdablet at 9:07 PM on November 26, 2008
Quite right. You can dress a pig in lipstick, but it's still a pig.
posted by flabdablet at 9:07 PM on November 26, 2008
jacalata, I think that would have to be Fawkes Noos, but I'm no expert.
posted by dg at 12:18 AM on November 27, 2008
posted by dg at 12:18 AM on November 27, 2008
Fawkes noose? Huh?
remember, remember...
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 12:32 AM on November 27, 2008
remember, remember...
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 12:32 AM on November 27, 2008
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