Meat Up November 24, 2009 3:49 PM   Subscribe

NYC post-Thanksgiving pig-out meetup.

I have a hankering for barbecue.

Join me at Daisy May's BBQ (map) at 3pm on Sunday November 29th.
posted by ocherdraco to MetaFilter Gatherings at 3:49 PM (66 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite

...My dog is named Daisy. We call her Daisy May and nobody is quite sure why.

This either means I'll be there or the apocalypse is nigh, I forget which.
posted by Skorgu at 4:24 PM on November 24, 2009


Momitosis is in town. And there's no way I'm bringing her around you freaks.
posted by hermitosis at 8:23 PM on November 24, 2009 [2 favorites]


YAY OMG YAY I LOVE THEM

:)
posted by kathrineg at 10:21 PM on November 24, 2009


Uh, so that's a yes, I would like to attend this meetup.
posted by kathrineg at 7:08 AM on November 25, 2009


Hooray!
posted by ocherdraco at 7:23 AM on November 25, 2009


you would have this the day of my brunch, wouldn't you?
posted by The Whelk at 10:18 AM on November 25, 2009


Then just invite us to your brunch, The Whelk. Problem solved! Or, um, created maybe.
posted by foodmapper at 10:36 AM on November 25, 2009


Yay!
posted by Salamandrous at 11:28 AM on November 25, 2009


First of all, ain't gonna be no pig-out for me! [begins to sing] Ain't gon' be no meat! Ain't gon' shoot no guns! Ain't gon' hear 'bout Glenn Beck! Ain't gon' be no relatives 'round meeeeeee!

Secondly [no longer singing] I always want barbeque, but since I'm from the south, I'm a pretentious asshole about it. They better not be be using that islamo-fascist-communist-athiest-baby-killing western-style tomato-based sauce. That thur shit ain't rite. If vinegar was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me!

I'll try this place out though, I'm always looking for good barbeque in NYC. (I'm always looking because it an never be found!)

Thirdly, I plan on coming to this meet-up, but it depends on my hung-overness and who is passing through town needing my attention.
posted by fuq at 12:23 PM on November 25, 2009


They have great sweet potatoes!
posted by kathrineg at 2:56 PM on November 25, 2009


Can't make it, which is just as well, as there's nothing on the menu I can seemingly eat aside from a side dish or two.

Might want to take vegetarians/pescetarians/non red meat eaters into account when picking a meetup location, btw.
posted by cmgonzalez at 6:36 PM on November 25, 2009


I'm not declining due to the location, I'm just busy most Sundays. Next time, perhaps.
posted by cmgonzalez at 6:40 PM on November 25, 2009


Usually I don't mind walking in the City but... Google is telling me to walk nearly a mile to get to Daisy May's (the closest subway stop is apparently 3/4 of a mile from the restaurant. Is there a secret to getting there that doesn't involve driving in the City, finding parking in the City or walking nearly a mile?

I appreciate the renaming of the event to "Meat Up" ;) Depending upon how my Saturday night goes, I'll be there.
posted by LOLAttorney2009 at 9:05 AM on November 26, 2009


I should finish my statement:

Usually I don't mind walking in the City but... today, I'm in a foul mood.
posted by LOLAttorney2009 at 9:08 AM on November 26, 2009


Is there a secret to getting there that doesn't involve driving in the City, finding parking in the City or walking nearly a mile?

Taking a cab from the subway stop. If you want to do this, the best approach is from north of the restaurant so you don't have to deal with tunnel traffic. Or walking.

If you want, you can have another meetup at Zen Palate at the same time. Alas, this is more of a meatup.
posted by kathrineg at 9:37 AM on November 26, 2009


Nobody said anything about Zen Palate, but it would be appreciated if the menu wherever we meet up is inclusive enough to have at least one vegetarian dish on it.
posted by cmgonzalez at 10:10 AM on November 26, 2009


Oh, I wasn't snarking, I was saying because then we could possiby meetup afterwards for drinks? Or general camaraderie.
posted by kathrineg at 10:19 AM on November 26, 2009


cmgonzalez, there is no way to take all needs/wants/desires into account when planning. The best way to get what you need in a meetup is to plan it yourself.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:54 PM on November 26, 2009 [1 favorite]


And, alas, I cannot make this one.

Who all is doing SantaCon this year? I finally have a chance this year, us Mefi Santas should walk together.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:56 PM on November 26, 2009 [1 favorite]


There isn't a way to take ALL needs into account, but that's not an excuse not to even bother.

It's not like I'm even suggesting anything remotely difficult or out of the ordinary. Most places have at least one vegetarian entree these days; it's not that hard. I know MeFi doesn't do veg*n very well, but come on.
posted by cmgonzalez at 5:28 PM on November 26, 2009


(Also, apologies to kathrineg, as I thought it was snarking.)
posted by cmgonzalez at 5:39 PM on November 26, 2009


It's just that it's always possible to complain about a venue. It's too far, it's too loud, it's too hipster, it's too mainstream. And the people who complain never bother to plan their own meetips, they just complain about other meetups- you aren't even coming to this meetup! Come or don't come, but please don't complain. Every meetup doesn't have to be all things for all people. I'd love to go to a meetup at a vegetarian restaurant, if somebody planned one.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 5:56 PM on November 26, 2009 [5 favorites]


I met my delightful roommate at a bbq meetup last year, so you won't hear me shitting a brick when another such meetup is proposed. We bonded over the macaroni and cheese, not the meats.

Perhaps every time a meetup is set, there should be a shadow meetup planned by those who aren't satisfied or who don't approve of the venue, menu, clientele, date, time...
On a related note, if anyone would like to join me for DradleCon, mefi mail me so we can spin together.
posted by HotPatatta at 6:50 PM on November 26, 2009 [1 favorite]


LOLAttorney2009, the M42 bus goes all the way across town to the Javits center.
posted by brujita at 8:01 PM on November 26, 2009


Yes, many times I have shaken my fist at the lack of Chelsea/Meatpacking/W. Village meetups, but I have been too lazy to plan.

If we're going vegetarian for a future meetup (which is a good idea), I'd love to try Blossom (although I hear it's overrated). Zen Palate is okay. My number one favorite is Gobo* but it's on the Upper East Side...wait...I just saw that they opened one in the West Village! We should go there!!! AHHHH I'M SO EXCITED!

I'm planning a meatfree-up! Just you wait! It's gonna be AWESOME! Alas, it is for another post.


*They filmed a scene from Baby Mama there, making it even more cooler and betterer
posted by kathrineg at 8:02 PM on November 26, 2009


And for real, the sweet potatoes at this joint we're going to are so good I have to be convinced to save room for the barbecue. If any vegetarians want to come, maybe have a snack beforehand and go for the sweet potatoes and the Mac and Cheese. Their sweet tea is nothing to sneeze at, either. I sometimes get it delivered (it comes in a Mason jar!) when I want to conjure up some memories of my grandmama.

I don't think there's anything vegan, though, I know they use at least butter in pretty much every side.
posted by kathrineg at 8:07 PM on November 26, 2009


Brujita, many thanks for the bus number! I appreciate that far more than the snarkishly-styled "take a cab to go a mile" answer!
posted by LOLAttorney2009 at 9:20 PM on November 26, 2009


IT WAS NOT SNARKY. A cab is what I would do if I didn't want to walk. It is not horrendously expensive for that short of a distance, and you wouldn't have to wait for a bus in the cold (something I imagined you wouldn't want to do if you didn't want to walk).

This is snarky: Next time, you can check out hopstop.com, or google's version of the same, or MTA's version of the same. They will all give you bus numbers so you don't have to deal with suggestions that bother you.
posted by kathrineg at 8:44 AM on November 27, 2009


Did you notice in my original comment that I stated I had already checked Google? Obviously Google was failing on the bus idea. Since I've found, through many, many requests for directions, that Google's suggestions are often better than HopStop's, I don't check HopStop anymore.

Your original "answer" was snarky: "take a cab or walk." No shit, Sherlock. Gosh, I never would have thought of hailing a cab! Or walking! ZOMG, what great suggestions.
posted by LOLAttorney2009 at 8:54 AM on November 27, 2009


> I met my delightful roommate at a bbq meetup last year, so you won't hear me shitting a brick when another such meetup is proposed.

more likely to be heard afterwards, n'est-ce pas?
posted by Ambrosia Voyeur at 10:00 AM on November 27, 2009


"Is there a secret to getting there that doesn't involve driving in the City, finding parking in the City or walking nearly a mile?"

Huh. Didn't see that you mentioned taking a cab, just driving/walking, so I figured it was worth suggesting.

People who don't live in the city (I have no idea if you do), who are relatively new to the city, or who live in a part of the city where it's hard to hail a cab don't always think of subway + cab as an option, because cabs aren't easy to get where they're from, or they're a lot more expensive. I'm still getting used to just walking out of my door and getting a cab because where I used to live in Queens, you couldn't really rely on being able to hail a yellow cab so it was hauling myself to the train, calling a car, or nothing. Same with my partner's old place in Brooklyn, it was a vicious walk to the train in summer.

I guess you should take the M42 if you don't want to take a cab. I didn't suggest it because you might have to wait a while in the cold, just because it's Sunday. During the week there are plenty of M42s, they're just incredibly slow (like, old lady with a walker slow).

I live in the area and I personally wouldn't take the bus on the way to the meetup because it would be so much easier to take a cab and not too much more expensive. If I were with my partner we would argue about which one to take because he gets carsick and prefers the bus. I would probably end up taking the bus back just because it can be a little harder to find a cab that far West...but sometimes you can grab one on the West Side Highway, at least a little further downtown.

I have a friend who lives in that area (she doesn't eat red meat so we end up at Zen Palate a lot) and, as you can see, I have spent a lot of time figuring out the ideal transit from the 7th/8th avenue area. Luckily, Daisy May's delivers to everywhere in Manhattan so I can get my fix without heading that far up and over.
posted by kathrineg at 11:47 AM on November 27, 2009


Yowza. I had no idea this had gotten so heated.

Folks, please, let's not get mad at each other. I'm from Alabama, it's Thanksgiving, and I'm missing home, so I decided I'd like to go get some barbecue. I thought it would be fun to have mefites join me. Come if you want to, don't if you don't, but meetups don't have to be all things to all people. As TPS said above, the best way to get a meetup at a place you want is to call a meetup.

New Yorkers are pretty keen on meeting up all the time, so the fact that I've called one for Sunday doesn't mean that another one can't be called for a week or a few days later (or even simultaneously) at a vegetarian/vegan friendly place.

And kathrineg is basically incapable of being snarky, so please don't get mad at her. She's actually really awesome.
posted by ocherdraco at 12:25 PM on November 27, 2009


First of all, I never "complain"ed. I already made clear that I was:

a) not declining based upon the location,
b) made one small suggestion to hey, maybe consider planning meetups where there's at least one dish suitable for non meat eaters. It was a suggestion meant to end there.

Anyhow, then the snark and comments began. It's not uncommon on MeFi to see people complain about what they think is complaining by non meat eaters who (in their opinion) seem to want special treatment.

Personally, I'm very flexible and amenable to many situations. However, I didn't come in here and complain and ask for a vegetarian meetup or any sort of special treatment. I don't appreciate the implication that I was doing anything of the sort.

I think your comments, TPS come off as rather pushy and dismissive. If I did plan a meetup, I would think to take a variety of situations into account and not just plan around myself. It's just common sense to me to do so when dealing with a group of people.
posted by cmgonzalez at 4:04 PM on November 27, 2009


Anyway, enjoy it everyone. :) I will see you all at a future meetup.
posted by cmgonzalez at 4:15 PM on November 27, 2009


YOU GUYS ARE ALL ASSHOLES












SEE YOU THERE
posted by Optimus Chyme at 5:05 PM on November 27, 2009 [5 favorites]


If I did plan a meetup, I would think to take a variety of situations into account and not just plan around myself. It's just common sense to me to do so when dealing with a group of people.

Honestly, this is simply not The Way It Works. There are vegan MeFites and obligate carnivore MeFites and people who live in Harlem and people who live in Brooklyn and even people who have to take the X train all the way to Zorgonia Avenue. There are people who only drink whiskey and people who don't drink at all. The only thing we have in common is that we post on this website. There is no such thing as a perfect meetup - the venue, date, and time will never work for everyone.

I'm a fairly prolific meetup-goer and yet I would probably not attend one on like 217th in The Bronx. But I also wouldn't jump in the thread and say that it's a bad idea and hey can we move the venue to Far Rockaway at 2:00 am on a Wednesday. In even the recent past, a lot of meetup venues were decided in-thread, and all that leads to is neighborhood shit-flinging and comments so out of line you'd think it was a joint MeFi-FreeRepublic shindig.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE SORTS OF MEETUP THREADS NO ONE WANTS AND NO ONE LIKES. CLICK AT YOUR OWN PERIL BECAUSE IT IS FUCKED-UP AND NASTY. (WTF, BUNNYCUP?)

Beyond that, the meetup was called specifically because people were having a hankering for barbecue. I'm sorry that most barbecue places are not vegetarian-friendly, but there is nothing anyone here can do about that. Rest assured that if you had a meetup at Red Bamboo that no one would say "hey, you should consider those of us who must eat real animal flesh with every meal." I was a full-blown vegan in my younger days and part of that sometimes means eating at home before going out or picking up something beforehand. It sucks, but you know, it's a sacrifice.

As for getting there: there's the M42, the M50, and the M11. Here is the Manhattan bus map (PDF). You can probably take the M42 to 11th and then take the M11 north to 46th-ish.

If you don't like the meetups that people are proposing, make one yourself. There are not a limited number of slots available. There are a ton of us in NYC; even when we planned one on probably the worst day of the year for it, we still had fun.

So let's go have some fun and not have this turn into dinner with the Nixons. <3
posted by Optimus Chyme at 10:08 PM on November 27, 2009 [3 favorites]


Luckily, Daisy May's delivers to everywhere in Manhattan

Good to know, thanks!
posted by mlis at 10:25 PM on November 27, 2009


I may go. Right now I'm visiting my family in NJ. I'll be back in Brooklyn in the morning; perhaps I'll head in to Manhattan for the Meat-up.

Uh, yeah, I'm one of those vegetarians too, but I could totally go for some mac'n'cheese and collared greens. Anyone know if the mac'n'cheese is any good?
posted by defenestration at 1:38 PM on November 28, 2009


Also, I don't think cmgonzalez was being out of hand, at all.

I understand that it'd be lame to want to change everything about a meet-up to suit your own needs, but restaurants—especially in NYC—should have at least one vegetarian entree, even if they're BBQ places. I don't think that's too much to ask. I normally don't like supporting places that don't give a shit about nonmeateaters; I guess for MeFi, I'd make an exception.
posted by defenestration at 1:46 PM on November 28, 2009


Good point, defenestration. I must say that their sides are freakin' amazing (including the mac and cheese) and I will probably just eat sides and no actual grr dead pig big meat barbecue thing.
posted by kathrineg at 1:51 PM on November 28, 2009


oooooops. Not going to make it. Job interview! Eat an extra pig for me.
posted by fuq at 4:19 PM on November 28, 2009


Good luck fuq!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 4:26 PM on November 28, 2009 [2 favorites]


What ThePinkSuperhero said!
posted by defenestration at 4:29 PM on November 28, 2009 [1 favorite]


I'm from Alabama, it's Thanksgiving, and I'm missing home, so I decided I'd like to go get some barbecue.

Yay! I'm from Georgia, it's Thanksgiving, and I'm missing home, therefore had the same BBQ dream as you.

Also, I have a client in that vicinity whose office I occasionally have to visit. I stare at this place ALL. THE. TIME. (It ain't a bad walk— really. Bring an iPod, and get of at the 50th St. stop.)

Will do my bestest to be there.

MEAT UP!
posted by functionequalsform at 8:10 PM on November 28, 2009


I prefer not to take cabs(if I have something heavy, I use a car service) because I've been harassed by drivers once too often....and when I was first looking for a place here there was an article in the NY Times describing how one did not need to have a driver's license to obtain a taxi license. A cabbie lent his taxi to a friend who did not know how to drive and he hit a woman who lost her leg as a result. I have no idea if this loophole has been closed.


Ocherdraco, this sounds fun but I'm going to pass this time.
posted by brujita at 12:49 AM on November 29, 2009 [1 favorite]


Ah, unfortunately, I'm not going to be at this one. Have fun!
posted by defenestration at 6:45 AM on November 29, 2009


Crap, I can't go. Work calls...

Next time, I'll meet ya'll, next time.
posted by functionequalsform at 9:24 AM on November 29, 2009


I have had too much meat this week already, sorry folks.
posted by Jon_Evil at 9:45 AM on November 29, 2009


I'm running a bit late but I'm coming and I'm hungry!
posted by Salamandrous at 11:03 AM on November 29, 2009


I'll be there with a Metafilter sign. Might not be there at three on the dot, but will be very soon thereafter.
posted by ocherdraco at 11:21 AM on November 29, 2009


Also: it's cafeteria style seating, so just go ahead and grab a table.
posted by ocherdraco at 11:39 AM on November 29, 2009


Dammit, why did I have to go and find this thread at 10 minutes before you are all me[a]ting? I've already assumed the pajama pants and football position for the afternoon.

Since I can't teleport from 238th to Daisy May's, I will just have to make a pilgrimage there another time.

Please make me jealous.
posted by sciencegeek at 11:55 AM on November 29, 2009


I prefer not to take cabs(if I have something heavy, I use a car service) because I've been harassed by drivers once too often....and when I was first looking for a place here there was an article in the NY Times describing how one did not need to have a driver's license to obtain a taxi license. A cabbie lent his taxi to a friend who did not know how to drive and he hit a woman who lost her leg as a result. I have no idea if this loophole has been closed.

what

Anyways, I'm meated out and have some work to catch up on, but I hope to see you freaks at the Brooklyn meet-up next month. We are totally diversifying!
posted by zoomorphic at 12:17 PM on November 29, 2009


We are here! Come join! Creamed spinach, mac and cheese, sweet potatoes, peaches and Bourbon, collard greens, pulled pork, and ribs are all adorning our table right now.
posted by ocherdraco at 12:35 PM on November 29, 2009


Hm. Forgot about this. Oh well.
posted by bingo at 3:33 PM on November 29, 2009


You can get drunk with me at Bar None anytime after 4pm tommorrow if it makes you feel any better, and it's my birthday this week so it'll be a mitzvah or some shit.
posted by jonmc at 3:38 PM on November 29, 2009


Creamed spinach, mac and cheese, sweet potatoes, peaches and Bourbon, collard greens, pulled pork, and ribs are all adorning our table right now.

Pics pleeeeeeeease!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 5:04 PM on November 29, 2009 [1 favorite]


I always forget to take pictures! Dammit.
posted by ocherdraco at 6:58 PM on November 29, 2009


Made it to the meet-up, and finally ponied up my $5 to get a login. Thanks!
posted by oh yeah! at 10:11 PM on November 29, 2009


This is the article to which I was referring.
posted by brujita at 10:37 PM on November 29, 2009


Made it to the meet-up, and finally ponied up my $5 to get a login. Thanks (oh yeah!)

Yay! I'm glad you decided to include the exclamation point.
posted by ocherdraco at 1:58 AM on November 30, 2009


This is the article to which I was referring.
posted by brujita at 10:37 PM on November 29


Seems pretty safe to me.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 8:02 AM on November 30, 2009


I was totally about to post a link to that study. Here it is from the source. Some salient points:
Lower crash rates for taxis and liveries are the upshot of a significant drop in the number of taxi and livery crashes over the past decade. The number of taxi and livery crashes declined by 12 percent from 2003 to 2004, and by a total of 28 percent since
1994.

• There were 9,128 taxi/livery crashes in New York City in 2004, a decline from 10,361 in 2003 and from 13,126 in 1999.
• The decline is primarily from a reduced number of livery crashes. The 5,964 livery crashes in 2004 is the lowest number in over a decade, and a 42% decline since 1999.
• The number of taxi crashes has fluctuated in the range of 3,000 to 4,000 since 1996.
posted by ocherdraco at 8:14 AM on November 30, 2009


Yay Oh Yeah! It was great to meet you!
posted by Salamandrous at 10:35 AM on November 30, 2009


oh yeah!

I love your name, it was great meeting you! And I had a really fun time, everyone.
posted by kathrineg at 12:27 PM on November 30, 2009


I just popped in here to see how the meatup went, but had no idea I'd find all this in the linked article!

tearing off her right leg.
Nearby, a baby stroller lay crumpled.
A little boy with broken legs wailed in pain.
a wrap of bandages covers the stump
a horde of kamikazes
Fate has seized my neck
I will lose the medallion and my life will be a ruin
high-profile accidents require a cabby as sacrifice
I am not skillful
At night come the drunks
War has been declared
a hivelike atmosphere abuzz with mumbles and cursing
even the spiritual couplets of a sufi mystic could not calm his soul
posted by Greg Nog at 11:25 AM on December 1, 2009 [3 favorites]


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