Avoid fedoras at all costs. As Onstad established six years ago, you don't look like bogart. You look like you ride a Honda Goldwing and collect swords.
Ah, yes, the debonair sysadmin. The stereotype is absolutely true, although most of the people I know who wear it are programmers and not sysadmins.
You could always try the Debonair Sysadmin model.posted by zamboni at 9:28 AM on October 25, 2012
August 17, 2012: I would personally be very comfortable with people calling out misandry when they see it. Even though it rankles a little bit to have to set the example all the time or be called a hypocrite, and even though getting combatively legalistic about all following the same new rules is sort of a classic response to having to change behavior, it's fair to expect people committed to egalitarianism to join you in condemning misandry.I am sure I can find more calling-out of misandry, but I don't want to devote a lot of time to the project of revisting my more than 15,000 comments in eight years of participation to re-locate them. I make some mistakes now and then - was properly called out in that same thread for making an unsupportable generalization about womens' experience - but I've never been anything other than a committed egalitarian feminist.
January 3, 2005: [In a thread talking about blue collar men] There is so much stereotyping in this thread...it's no wonder that most of you express frustration with relationships. You're thinking about gender relations in such simplistic ways. Better to act as individual, and relate to other in the world as the individual that you are, than explain your relationship experience away with "women want this" and "men always that".
July 17, 2008: I often think our culture does men a real disservice in not defining manliness as something more on the order of those qualities [Respectful of his wife and his marriage, good father, hardworking, reflective, principled, well connected to others, sense of humor, impulse toward constant growth, humble, and strong in self-knowledge] and something less on the order of "inarticulate gorilla handyman."
...I have learned through the years that it is productive to have someone take the role of devil's advocate. I've been known to stand up for users with unpopular positions, even when I don't agree with them, because I don't like pile-ons or what I see as dirty tactics being used against them....with the comments you made in that MeTa thread that you say is an example of "the system working"?
...Once I have made my point, I also have to not keep hammering at that person. That's another thing I have to watch out for. if I do, hopefully the mods are going to step in, because now I am bullying another member, who has just as much right to be here as I do. And that's the way it should be.
...That's not at all a fair representation of what vorfeed has said in this thread! She's been asking for respect, civil discourse and people being mindful of pile-ons by ANY majority, so that we can feel free to discuss ANY topic, or ANY opinion, without worrying about bullying or derailing. I agree with that. It may be a pipe dream, but it's our pipe dream, damn it. (emphasis mine)
But now we have these cliques of people deciding what stays and what goes and who's right and who's wrong... And it gets ugly sometimes.So what I'm concluding is that you're on the side of airing unpopular opinions as long as you agree with them; that you have no problem joining in a majority against an unpopular opinion you don't agree with (that majority thoroughly stated before you added your comments), that even though you made your point in the first comment I linked it was okay to go ahead and hammer it home in the second comment I linked (especially because people agreed with you)?
Using myself again as an example, my personal bugaboo, the thing that drives me up the wall, is hypocrisy. But I can't just go off and start calling people out for being the dirty lying hypocrites I feel they are in a thread; I have to make my case rationally that, hey, you are coming down hard on people you disagree with for being X and yet, if you look at a, b and c, you have been X yourself in this thread....oh. Really?
posted by schyler523 at 11:14 AM on October 18, 2012 [1 favorite]