Favourites to Comments ratio June 9, 2016 11:46 AM Subscribe
Is it possible to tease a total favourites to total comments ratio out of the info dumpster? I'm pretty sure stevewoz was at the top of that list however his recent comment might have put someone else above him.
If not anyone know of a user with a higher ratio than stevewoz's current 288:1
If not anyone know of a user with a higher ratio than stevewoz's current 288:1
I don't think the infodumpster has a query for that, but it would be calculable from the raw data in the Infodump itself. Like LM, my money's still on woz, especially given that the new one is picking up favorites fast as well.
The best contenders would be folks with very few comments, since it's the average that'll bring you down; a single comment or a pair from the subject of or an expert on a given topic who has signed up for that and then gone quiet feels like the likely model.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:53 AM on June 9, 2016
The best contenders would be folks with very few comments, since it's the average that'll bring you down; a single comment or a pair from the subject of or an expert on a given topic who has signed up for that and then gone quiet feels like the likely model.
posted by cortex (staff) at 11:53 AM on June 9, 2016
Also you'd have to decide whether to separate out comments and posts and how to handle comments made before favorites existed or back when they were still used really sparingly, a fight my husband and I have had when I try to prove mathematically that I am the best and most interesting person.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 12:03 PM on June 9, 2016 [29 favorites]
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 12:03 PM on June 9, 2016 [29 favorites]
it's ALL posts and comments and ALL favorites across the board weighted by some average of typical MeFi user output that I haven't tried to figure out
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:09 PM on June 9, 2016
posted by prize bull octorok at 12:09 PM on June 9, 2016
I'm pretty sure stevewoz was at the top of that list however his recent comment might have put someone else above him.
Sssh! You’ll scare him away.
posted by Going To Maine at 12:10 PM on June 9, 2016 [5 favorites]
Sssh! You’ll scare him away.
posted by Going To Maine at 12:10 PM on June 9, 2016 [5 favorites]
I've been working for a few years to be the member with the most self-favorited comments. No idea if that's happened yet, because like all good goals, I never figured out how to check my progress.
posted by rebent at 12:11 PM on June 9, 2016 [10 favorites]
posted by rebent at 12:11 PM on June 9, 2016 [10 favorites]
I look forward to Woz's next comment in 2026.
posted by Chrysostom at 12:34 PM on June 9, 2016 [23 favorites]
posted by Chrysostom at 12:34 PM on June 9, 2016 [23 favorites]
I was thinking don't separate anything: # of favourites / count of all activity.
I was asking because the Woz holding that spot here always gave me the warm fuzzies and I'd be a bit dismayed if he was topped by some zero substance celebrity.
posted by Mitheral at 12:39 PM on June 9, 2016
I was asking because the Woz holding that spot here always gave me the warm fuzzies and I'd be a bit dismayed if he was topped by some zero substance celebrity.
posted by Mitheral at 12:39 PM on June 9, 2016
while we're on the subject could the infodump data be updated when someone gets the chance please thanks
posted by granted at 1:01 PM on June 9, 2016
posted by granted at 1:01 PM on June 9, 2016
I look forward to Woz's next comment in 2026.
It’s because of the clock rate on the 6502.
posted by D.C. at 1:01 PM on June 9, 2016 [10 favorites]
It’s because of the clock rate on the 6502.
posted by D.C. at 1:01 PM on June 9, 2016 [10 favorites]
If not anyone know of a user with a higher ratio than stevewoz's current 288:1
Currently standing at 310:1.
posted by maryr at 1:18 PM on June 9, 2016
Currently standing at 310:1.
posted by maryr at 1:18 PM on June 9, 2016
In a question asking for a picture of "Wozniak was depicted as a wizard", Woz shows up and proves that it's not a depiction at all. He is very much a wizard.
posted by Clinging to the Wreckage at 1:20 PM on June 9, 2016 [12 favorites]
posted by Clinging to the Wreckage at 1:20 PM on June 9, 2016 [12 favorites]
Sidenote: How is stevewoz's first comment not marked best answer!?
posted by maryr at 1:20 PM on June 9, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by maryr at 1:20 PM on June 9, 2016 [5 favorites]
Also, was his more recent comment technically a self-poster?
posted by maryr at 1:21 PM on June 9, 2016 [22 favorites]
posted by maryr at 1:21 PM on June 9, 2016 [22 favorites]
I love how he just posts the naked Dropbox URL. It's like a mic drop in comment form.
posted by Rock Steady at 1:30 PM on June 9, 2016 [17 favorites]
posted by Rock Steady at 1:30 PM on June 9, 2016 [17 favorites]
Mr. Wozniak's "favorites" to "favorited by others" ratio is terrible though, and I'm shaking my slowly side to side while giving him a mild look of disappointment.
posted by bongo_x at 1:41 PM on June 9, 2016
posted by bongo_x at 1:41 PM on June 9, 2016
The most salient thing I got out of Woz's resurfacing was a reminder of how awful Ask was back in the day.
posted by supercres at 1:49 PM on June 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by supercres at 1:49 PM on June 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
maryr: "How is stevewoz's first comment not marked best answer!?"
I'd argue it isn't a best answer. The question was why other people thought he was great and stevewoz is arguably the only person who isn't qualified to answer that.
Still at a 50% best answer:answers ratio he's probably in the top ten of that category too.
posted by Mitheral at 2:01 PM on June 9, 2016 [7 favorites]
I'd argue it isn't a best answer. The question was why other people thought he was great and stevewoz is arguably the only person who isn't qualified to answer that.
Still at a 50% best answer:answers ratio he's probably in the top ten of that category too.
posted by Mitheral at 2:01 PM on June 9, 2016 [7 favorites]
Also the Corpus needs to be updated. You promised me that about two years ago, cortex!
posted by Chrysostom at 2:28 PM on June 9, 2016
posted by Chrysostom at 2:28 PM on June 9, 2016
I'd argue it isn't a best answer. The question was why other people thought he was great and stevewoz is arguably the only person who isn't qualified to answer that.
I don't know. With a line like, "I don't mind if people don't like me as long as it's for things I am." that's just beautiful self-assurance in action and inherently pretty great.
posted by Celsius1414 at 2:39 PM on June 9, 2016
I don't know. With a line like, "I don't mind if people don't like me as long as it's for things I am." that's just beautiful self-assurance in action and inherently pretty great.
posted by Celsius1414 at 2:39 PM on June 9, 2016
According to the current infodump, Woz is #1. The top numbers are all single comment posters:
Brendan Ecks, talking about how he created javascript.
An organic farmer, talking about the difficulties of food sourcing.
A new poster that signed up to say how much the Emotional Labor thread affected her.
The first person other than Woz to have a high ratio with more than one comment is Randall Munroe.
posted by demiurge at 2:41 PM on June 9, 2016 [11 favorites]
Brendan Ecks, talking about how he created javascript.
An organic farmer, talking about the difficulties of food sourcing.
A new poster that signed up to say how much the Emotional Labor thread affected her.
The first person other than Woz to have a high ratio with more than one comment is Randall Munroe.
posted by demiurge at 2:41 PM on June 9, 2016 [11 favorites]
Mrs. Pterodactyl: a fight my husband and I have had when I try to prove mathematically that I am the best and most interesting person
I have met you both and math isn't needed.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 3:08 PM on June 9, 2016 [3 favorites]
I have met you both and math isn't needed.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 3:08 PM on June 9, 2016 [3 favorites]
Nice sleuthing, demiurge.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:24 PM on June 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:24 PM on June 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
Currently standing at 310:1.
And continuing to climb (now: 337:1).
posted by Michele in California at 5:34 PM on June 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
And continuing to climb (now: 337:1).
posted by Michele in California at 5:34 PM on June 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
$20 SAIT
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:59 PM on June 9, 2016 [17 favorites]
posted by ActingTheGoat at 6:59 PM on June 9, 2016 [17 favorites]
I'd be curious about the numbers if you set a minimum number of comments threshold (and/or looked at the Green and the Blue separately).
posted by zachlipton at 7:14 PM on June 9, 2016
posted by zachlipton at 7:14 PM on June 9, 2016
I judge my participation on this Internet website by "favorited by others"/"favorites" ratio.
posted by save alive nothing that breatheth at 7:20 PM on June 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by save alive nothing that breatheth at 7:20 PM on June 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
As you unfavorite comments, your ratio approaches infinity! Infinity participation! Magic internet points for all. Unfavorite everything today!
posted by zachlipton at 7:37 PM on June 9, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by zachlipton at 7:37 PM on June 9, 2016 [6 favorites]
It's all about the SFS (sum of favorite significance).
For favorites you have received f, SFS = Σf=1n (1/F)
Where F is the total number of favorites the favoriting user has ever given at the time of calculation. This causes SFS to go down over time if you do nothing.
Go ahead and take credit for a million favorites every time someone says they wish they could favorite your comment a million times. (just make sure you also add a million to F)
MetaMetrics.
posted by ctmf at 8:09 PM on June 9, 2016 [5 favorites]
For favorites you have received f, SFS = Σf=1n (1/F)
Where F is the total number of favorites the favoriting user has ever given at the time of calculation. This causes SFS to go down over time if you do nothing.
Go ahead and take credit for a million favorites every time someone says they wish they could favorite your comment a million times. (just make sure you also add a million to F)
MetaMetrics.
posted by ctmf at 8:09 PM on June 9, 2016 [5 favorites]
SFS doesn't quite model the concept, though. If Alice and Bob have each had one of their 10 comments favorited, but Alice got hers from cortex and Bob got his from newaccount2016, Alice should have a higher score even though the favorite cortex gave is one out of a much larger pool.
Let's call the theoretical ideal the Meta-score, and try to define a formula for it. The Meta-score of user U is the sum of all the favorites given to their comments and posts (perhaps with posts counting more or less than comments), with each favorite weighted by the giver's own Meta-score and their total favorite count. This should maybe be nonlinear, so that if someone doubles their Meta-score while also giving out twice as many favorites, the effect of their favorites on others' Meta-scores may have gone up or down. And the favorite-count-weighting itself might make more sense as a logarithmic function: the difference between someone giving one favorite versus ten is the same as between ten and 100.
The self-referential nature of the Meta-score lends it to being computed with a PageRank-like algorithm. Displaying it on everyone's profile should be a fun weekend project for frimble. :P
posted by Rangi at 9:06 PM on June 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
Let's call the theoretical ideal the Meta-score, and try to define a formula for it. The Meta-score of user U is the sum of all the favorites given to their comments and posts (perhaps with posts counting more or less than comments), with each favorite weighted by the giver's own Meta-score and their total favorite count. This should maybe be nonlinear, so that if someone doubles their Meta-score while also giving out twice as many favorites, the effect of their favorites on others' Meta-scores may have gone up or down. And the favorite-count-weighting itself might make more sense as a logarithmic function: the difference between someone giving one favorite versus ten is the same as between ten and 100.
The self-referential nature of the Meta-score lends it to being computed with a PageRank-like algorithm. Displaying it on everyone's profile should be a fun weekend project for frimble. :P
posted by Rangi at 9:06 PM on June 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
This inspired me to go and look up fred because I was sure he'd have a good ratio but I was surprised he hadn't accumulated that many faves in 16 years (omg is the site that old).
posted by EndsOfInvention at 3:06 AM on June 10, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by EndsOfInvention at 3:06 AM on June 10, 2016 [3 favorites]
I like that he can have a 200+ favorite comment that is dragging his average down...
posted by Lazlo Hollyfeld at 6:23 AM on June 10, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Lazlo Hollyfeld at 6:23 AM on June 10, 2016 [3 favorites]
Whenever I hear about Steve Woz or Steve Jobs, I think of the third Steve.
posted by aniola at 12:02 PM on June 10, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by aniola at 12:02 PM on June 10, 2016 [3 favorites]
Leaving everything else to the side, my impression is that once the voting is over quidnunc kid will be no. 1.
posted by mr. digits at 11:47 AM on June 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by mr. digits at 11:47 AM on June 11, 2016 [6 favorites]
t. d. "the donald" quidnunc ? quick, head for the quexit!!!
posted by y2karl at 8:47 AM on June 12, 2016
posted by y2karl at 8:47 AM on June 12, 2016
t. d. "the donald" quidnunc ? quick, head for the quexit!!!
Uh ... low energy comment! Bad! Bad!
(*sets up y2karl for a "delete your account" comment*)
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:39 AM on June 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
Uh ... low energy comment! Bad! Bad!
(*sets up y2karl for a "delete your account" comment*)
posted by the quidnunc kid at 11:39 AM on June 12, 2016 [1 favorite]
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