poemfilter November 7, 2002 7:29 AM Subscribe
Poemfilter? I know we've entered into this territory many times before about movies, foods, beer, and recently politics, but is Metafilter really the place to post Nobel-prize winning poets on the front page?
A good post to MetaFilter is something that meets the following criteria: most people haven't seen it before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others.
What's the objection?
posted by monkey closet at 7:55 AM on November 7, 2002
What's the objection?
posted by monkey closet at 7:55 AM on November 7, 2002
the front page post
discussed the most
they're never right
and so we fight
that's just the trend
there is no end
posted by zoopraxiscope at 7:56 AM on November 7, 2002
discussed the most
they're never right
and so we fight
that's just the trend
there is no end
posted by zoopraxiscope at 7:56 AM on November 7, 2002
What's the objection?
Presumably, that it will not be done in moderation. We don't do moderation very well here. Imagine five poetry posts per day and you get, I think, what rodz may be worried about. Not that we're there yet, but I don't think raising the question is a problem.
posted by mcwetboy at 8:04 AM on November 7, 2002
Presumably, that it will not be done in moderation. We don't do moderation very well here. Imagine five poetry posts per day and you get, I think, what rodz may be worried about. Not that we're there yet, but I don't think raising the question is a problem.
posted by mcwetboy at 8:04 AM on November 7, 2002
I'm not a fan of poetry
I'd happily bury it all
below a tree
but i don't speak for the masses
i didn't attend
literature classes
posted by Frasermoo at 8:04 AM on November 7, 2002
I'd happily bury it all
below a tree
but i don't speak for the masses
i didn't attend
literature classes
posted by Frasermoo at 8:04 AM on November 7, 2002
We don't do moderation very well here
Heh, what do we do well? Other than snarking, belittling, and dismissing? (Other than cook a mean pancake, that is...)
posted by Dark Messiah at 8:05 AM on November 7, 2002
Heh, what do we do well? Other than snarking, belittling, and dismissing? (Other than cook a mean pancake, that is...)
posted by Dark Messiah at 8:05 AM on November 7, 2002
Next thing you know, someone is going to start screaming, "PoemFilter".
posted by mischief at 5:55 AM PST on November 7
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 8:08 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by mischief at 5:55 AM PST on November 7
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 8:08 AM on November 7, 2002
i can't believe someone actually saw this and went ahead and did it. oh, i see, rodz (member since: April 16, 2002, rodz has posted 1 thread and 10 comments to MetaTalk) is just breaking his MeTa hymen. now be a good boy and wave the bloodied sheet at the window for all to see.
posted by quonsar at 8:10 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by quonsar at 8:10 AM on November 7, 2002
Hell, I was worried things were going photofilter for a while there (and I really dig photography), and there has been some poetry posted lately, yes. But you know what? That's the kind of thing that's bound to happen in a place like this, and I submit that it is good.
Here is how I think it probably goes:
userX posts a supercool poetry link.
userY says, "cool link" and this prompts userY to start looking at poetry.
userY finds a different cool poetry link, posts it.
That's not so bad, is it? That's one of the joys of this place--it can start you looking for stuff you never would have thought to look for.
And sure, some people migt just post poetry because some other dude posted poetry and got a lot of compliments/comments for doing so, but what the hell? Why not? No matter how hard we try, not every link posted here is going to be totally unique and mind-blowing.
In a nutshell: Chill, it could be a lot worse.
posted by Fabulon7 at 8:11 AM on November 7, 2002
Here is how I think it probably goes:
userX posts a supercool poetry link.
userY says, "cool link" and this prompts userY to start looking at poetry.
userY finds a different cool poetry link, posts it.
That's not so bad, is it? That's one of the joys of this place--it can start you looking for stuff you never would have thought to look for.
And sure, some people migt just post poetry because some other dude posted poetry and got a lot of compliments/comments for doing so, but what the hell? Why not? No matter how hard we try, not every link posted here is going to be totally unique and mind-blowing.
In a nutshell: Chill, it could be a lot worse.
posted by Fabulon7 at 8:11 AM on November 7, 2002
Geez, quonsar, I'm trying to eat toast with strawberry jam here. Some consideration, please.
posted by Fabulon7 at 8:12 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by Fabulon7 at 8:12 AM on November 7, 2002
Take all my arguments for NewsFilter, /replace News Poem, rinse and repeat. ;-P
posted by mischief at 8:15 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by mischief at 8:15 AM on November 7, 2002
I love these threads (I also haven't gotten any work done this week, but that's another story). The trick, I think, is make sure that the post itself is something unusual. The discussion of the Yeats post was the most enjoyable thing I've seen here in weeks and the Heaney thread looks like it will be good, but most of us are familiar with both those poets. The Poetry International post was perfect, in my opinion--it has a unique approach, there are plenty of lesser-known poets, and the site is brand-new.
posted by hippugeek at 8:18 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by hippugeek at 8:18 AM on November 7, 2002
This Thread screams, "Delete me! Please!"
Next thing you know, someone is going to start screaming, "PoemFilter".
I cannot believe someone actually posted "PoemFilter". Effin' Wow.
posted by Shane at 8:18 AM on November 7, 2002
Next thing you know, someone is going to start screaming, "PoemFilter".
I cannot believe someone actually posted "PoemFilter". Effin' Wow.
posted by Shane at 8:18 AM on November 7, 2002
a. Next thing you know, someone is going to start screaming, "PoemFilter".
b. Poemfilter? I know we've entered...
a. Next thing you know, someone is going to jump off a cliff...
(Okay, I'm all snarked out now...)
posted by Shane at 8:21 AM on November 7, 2002
b. Poemfilter? I know we've entered...
a. Next thing you know, someone is going to jump off a cliff...
(Okay, I'm all snarked out now...)
posted by Shane at 8:21 AM on November 7, 2002
Poetry is cool, and some discussions here have been definitely interesting (rodii vs the Old Possum, for example, is a favorite of mine), but this is not supposed to be a book club.
It's not enought to start a quotefest to make a good thread.
Otherwise, every time one of the thousands of active members reads an interesting book, he/she'll report it on the FP. That, plus the newsfilter crap and the political stuff and the Apple threads, and don't forget the "here's what I had for breakfast" threads... we'll have about two hundred FPP's a day. And the site will simply collapse
posted by matteo at 8:22 AM on November 7, 2002
It's not enought to start a quotefest to make a good thread.
Otherwise, every time one of the thousands of active members reads an interesting book, he/she'll report it on the FP. That, plus the newsfilter crap and the political stuff and the Apple threads, and don't forget the "here's what I had for breakfast" threads... we'll have about two hundred FPP's a day. And the site will simply collapse
posted by matteo at 8:22 AM on November 7, 2002
You know, it's nice to see links where people are actively contributing to the discussion, as opposed to actively detracting. Of course, I also vastly prefer poetry to reading about politics or news, so that's my bias. Recovering English major and all that.
Guess I'll abandon my plans to hunt up some nicely obscure links for one of my favorite obscure-ish poets, though. Wouldn't want to annoy anyone, now would I? Because, you know, not clicking on the link or looking at the comments is not an option.
posted by eilatan at 8:24 AM on November 7, 2002
Guess I'll abandon my plans to hunt up some nicely obscure links for one of my favorite obscure-ish poets, though. Wouldn't want to annoy anyone, now would I? Because, you know, not clicking on the link or looking at the comments is not an option.
posted by eilatan at 8:24 AM on November 7, 2002
(I'm commenting based on the fact that if I'm not interested in something or know for a fact it's going to annoy the fuck out of me, I don't read it. Like 90% of the politics and news stuff. Like every single thread about fat people. 99% of the time, I don't come to MeTa and bitch and moan about the stuff I don't like. And trust me, I've been tempted.)
posted by eilatan at 8:27 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by eilatan at 8:27 AM on November 7, 2002
After yesterday's discussions about Matt possibly shutting down, it just seems to me that we have more constructive things to be concerned with...
posted by Shane at 8:46 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by Shane at 8:46 AM on November 7, 2002
Postfilter? I enjoy posts as much as the next guy but lately it seems users are posting nothing but posts to the front page. Is Metafilter really the place for posts?
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:00 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by MiguelCardoso at 9:00 AM on November 7, 2002
But it's OK to post the lamest and tritest little thing that has to do with sex with children--right? Whoo hoo, that certainly fits the there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others criteria. That's entertainment! And certainly not a waste of time and bandwidth.With apologies to Salt 'n Pepa--Let's talk about sex with kids!/Every time we can!...
posted by y2karl at 9:01 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by y2karl at 9:01 AM on November 7, 2002
Sex with children? Sue is all growed up by the end of the song.
posted by mischief at 9:12 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by mischief at 9:12 AM on November 7, 2002
Actually, that "PoemFilter thread" links to something obscure and small on the internet that most people didn't know about a relatively famous topic, leading other people to post links on the subject, and yet others to cordially join in with "Crap post, please delete."
posted by RJ Reynolds at 9:14 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by RJ Reynolds at 9:14 AM on November 7, 2002
OK, Incest then--another hot topic worthy of discussion, especially with a link to one song.
posted by y2karl at 9:16 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by y2karl at 9:16 AM on November 7, 2002
Yay Miguel. Agree 100%
Yay y2karl. Agree 100%
That thread is pretty lame, but that doesn't mean poetry threads are lame. It could have been good too--I'm sure there's a lot of interesting stuff out here about Shel...
There are no good or bad topics. (OK, I exaggerate a little.) There are only good or bad posts.
posted by Fabulon7 at 9:25 AM on November 7, 2002
Yay y2karl. Agree 100%
That thread is pretty lame, but that doesn't mean poetry threads are lame. It could have been good too--I'm sure there's a lot of interesting stuff out here about Shel...
There are no good or bad topics. (OK, I exaggerate a little.) There are only good or bad posts.
posted by Fabulon7 at 9:25 AM on November 7, 2002
Tastes differ. On topic--my last few posts have included entire online works--The Theory Of The Leisure Class, Against The Grain, The Collected Works of William Butler Yeats. Those, to me, are valuable resources. I tweaked puddsharp here for not including the entire Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Charles Mackay, which I found on page 2 in Google after entering the title. He posted an excerpt and an Amazon link. It was a great topic for the post but my attitude is why post an Amazon link--which I loathe--to a title when the whole work is available online? When I do research, I make it a point to at least go to page 5 in Google, sometimes to page 10, on any term I research because my attitude is if you going to make a post, do it right. Right to me means linking entire online works when available. The Yeats post produced more intelligent and interesting comments than any other thread I've started, so I'm thinking the concept has merit.
posted by y2karl at 9:29 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by y2karl at 9:29 AM on November 7, 2002
I'm not objecting to post of poetry on metafilter. I'm objecting to posting of famous poets on metafilter. Mcwetboy's comment got to the point. Yeats one day Heaney a day or 2 after that. Heaney poetry isn't by any means obscure or unknown. I'm not complaining about the fact that people are posting sites on literature, but on the content. I guess I was wrong in my thinking that Heaney's poetry was something most of us have seen before and therefore didn't fit the criteria of a good post.
posted by rodz at 9:53 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by rodz at 9:53 AM on November 7, 2002
Well, I'm objecting to the posting of pointless see my own name complaints on MetaTalk--like these poetry links are getting out of hand! We need to free up space to discuss the latest ad, war, politics, software updates, TV show news, war, politics,software updates, the latest movie trailer, war, politics, software updates, war or politics!
posted by y2karl at 10:09 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by y2karl at 10:09 AM on November 7, 2002
pardon the implied regurgitation, but just going from the front page, y'know...;)
posted by y2karl at 10:16 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by y2karl at 10:16 AM on November 7, 2002
get em karl. Hama7 has context going there rodz, look a little deeper.
rodii vs. possum. thats funny...(sigh) i really miss rodii.
ya know, heaven forbid any culture gets posted to the front page.
posted by clavdivs at 10:22 AM on November 7, 2002
rodii vs. possum. thats funny...(sigh) i really miss rodii.
ya know, heaven forbid any culture gets posted to the front page.
posted by clavdivs at 10:22 AM on November 7, 2002
inside every metafilter there is a fark trying to get out.
posted by quonsar at 10:24 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by quonsar at 10:24 AM on November 7, 2002
Metafilter: Came for the beer, stayed for the pretzels.
MetaTalk: Came for the beer farts, stayed for their lighting.
posted by y2karl at 10:28 AM on November 7, 2002
MetaTalk: Came for the beer farts, stayed for their lighting.
posted by y2karl at 10:28 AM on November 7, 2002
Shane: This Thread screams, "Delete me! Please!"
*hand over thread's mouth*
*looks over shoulder*
posted by eddydamascene at 10:56 AM on November 7, 2002
*hand over thread's mouth*
*looks over shoulder*
posted by eddydamascene at 10:56 AM on November 7, 2002
INNER JOIN on a.spec_id = b.u_id????
[quonsar runs from the room shrieking like homer simpson]
Fabulon7, you're trying to get me tossed out of this training session for good, aren't you?
posted by quonsar at 11:08 AM on November 7, 2002
[quonsar runs from the room shrieking like homer simpson]
Fabulon7, you're trying to get me tossed out of this training session for good, aren't you?
posted by quonsar at 11:08 AM on November 7, 2002
A modest prediction:
Coming Soon To This Space!
PenisFilter!
Wipe the dong_resin off that donkeyschlong, kids, it's time we nipped these weenies in the bud! Miguel, you get the bris!
posted by y2karl at 11:15 AM on November 7, 2002
Coming Soon To This Space!
PenisFilter!
Wipe the dong_resin off that donkeyschlong, kids, it's time we nipped these weenies in the bud! Miguel, you get the bris!
posted by y2karl at 11:15 AM on November 7, 2002
I consider myself pretty well-read. My father is a published poet and has gone on at length at the dinner table about any number of authors of prose and poetry. And yet I have never heard of Heaney. I'm not surprised, since there's much that I haven't heard of. I consider myself to be an average guy with average tastes and an average knowledge of things literary, as, I'm sure, are a majority of mefi users. We aren't all miguel's or y2karl's or rodz' or wonderchicken's or anybody that I've missed who is an english lit major.
Posts like this are exactly why I come to Metafilter: I don't know everything about technology, art, literature, freaky shit, the sciences, etc. As a matter of fact, I'd rather see posts like this and enjoy the ensuing comments than any post on religion, politics, I/P and so on.
posted by ashbury at 11:16 AM on November 7, 2002
Posts like this are exactly why I come to Metafilter: I don't know everything about technology, art, literature, freaky shit, the sciences, etc. As a matter of fact, I'd rather see posts like this and enjoy the ensuing comments than any post on religion, politics, I/P and so on.
posted by ashbury at 11:16 AM on November 7, 2002
There are no good or bad topics. (OK, I exaggerate a little.) There are only good or bad posts.
I see your point but feel I must disagree. A few Bad Topics:
-Anal Leakage in History: Before and After Olestra
-Why I'm Involved in Viral Marketing
(...and a few products I'd like to recommend)
-Pancakes: Maple Syrup or Butter/Sugar/Lemon Juice?
(Cultural Differences seen through the Fascinating Lens of Fried Dough.)
[This would be a linkless post, of course]
-Qualitative and Quantitative Differences in Beer Flatulence as Related to Ale, Stout, Bitter, Boch and Lager.
(And seriously, the Heaney post was not Earth-shaking, but I was really happy to find out his poetry was online. Hey, it's better than a CNN post!)
posted by Shane at 11:26 AM on November 7, 2002
I see your point but feel I must disagree. A few Bad Topics:
-Anal Leakage in History: Before and After Olestra
-Why I'm Involved in Viral Marketing
(...and a few products I'd like to recommend)
-Pancakes: Maple Syrup or Butter/Sugar/Lemon Juice?
(Cultural Differences seen through the Fascinating Lens of Fried Dough.)
[This would be a linkless post, of course]
-Qualitative and Quantitative Differences in Beer Flatulence as Related to Ale, Stout, Bitter, Boch and Lager.
(And seriously, the Heaney post was not Earth-shaking, but I was really happy to find out his poetry was online. Hey, it's better than a CNN post!)
posted by Shane at 11:26 AM on November 7, 2002
What ashbury said, except for the part about being well-read.
posted by timeistight at 11:27 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by timeistight at 11:27 AM on November 7, 2002
ashbury, enjoy Heaney! You're in for a treat! I would have to say he is one of the dozen most respected poets alive, as well as a personal favorite. When his allusions aren't totally over my head...
posted by Shane at 11:29 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by Shane at 11:29 AM on November 7, 2002
Shane: aunt jemima vs. ketogenics in the pancake meme: a concern for health or incipient racism?
posted by quonsar at 11:33 AM on November 7, 2002
posted by quonsar at 11:33 AM on November 7, 2002
Well, I think the point would be that if all the link contains is an archive of some poems from a very, very well-known poet (he recently put out a great translation of Beowulf, by the by), it's not very noteworthy.
If it was that easy, I could just find some links of great pieces of literature that have had their copyrights last and throw a bunch of links together. Anyone heard of Henry James? What?!! You have?
It would have been pretty easy to include a little biographical information on Seamus Heaney for all those people who don't know a lot about him, which is who this post seemed to be aimed at anyway. I don't know, wouldn't that be more interesting?
I'm surprised how vehemently people have spoken out against this thread, which raises some valid concerns (I think). Just because it's poetry doesn't mean it's a good link. Next thing you know, Josh Whedon fansites will proliferate the front page ;)
posted by The God Complex at 12:05 PM on November 7, 2002
If it was that easy, I could just find some links of great pieces of literature that have had their copyrights last and throw a bunch of links together. Anyone heard of Henry James? What?!! You have?
It would have been pretty easy to include a little biographical information on Seamus Heaney for all those people who don't know a lot about him, which is who this post seemed to be aimed at anyway. I don't know, wouldn't that be more interesting?
I'm surprised how vehemently people have spoken out against this thread, which raises some valid concerns (I think). Just because it's poetry doesn't mean it's a good link. Next thing you know, Josh Whedon fansites will proliferate the front page ;)
posted by The God Complex at 12:05 PM on November 7, 2002
last = lapse (dammit!)
posted by The God Complex at 12:06 PM on November 7, 2002
posted by The God Complex at 12:06 PM on November 7, 2002
But I was about to post on anal leakage! All right, all right, I'll just have a quiet little link to Jim Knipfel's discussion of (inter alia) "how foreign languages translate the most notorious line from the Mentors’ 'Golden Showers'–'Bend up and smell my anal vapors.'"
Oh, and I think poetry threads are A-OK. As long as they don't involve Josh Whedon.
posted by languagehat at 12:23 PM on November 7, 2002
Oh, and I think poetry threads are A-OK. As long as they don't involve Josh Whedon.
posted by languagehat at 12:23 PM on November 7, 2002
ya know, heaven forbid any culture gets posted to the front page.
Your wish is my command, oh great one.
posted by mcwetboy at 12:25 PM on November 7, 2002
Your wish is my command, oh great one.
posted by mcwetboy at 12:25 PM on November 7, 2002
As long as they don't involve Josh Whedon.
It's JOSS, dammit! What kind of pop-culture geeks are you?
Big Josh.
Medium Joss.
posted by Shane at 12:30 PM on November 7, 2002
It's JOSS, dammit! What kind of pop-culture geeks are you?
Big Josh.
Medium Joss.
posted by Shane at 12:30 PM on November 7, 2002
Ha ha. That's funny. I've watched the show a number of times and never picked that up, even though his name flashes up every time at the end of a show.
Hmmm. Poetry points still stand though!
Wait a second.. how do you know I was talking about a different (and actual) Josh Whedon? I call for a recount!
posted by The God Complex at 12:38 PM on November 7, 2002
Hmmm. Poetry points still stand though!
Wait a second.. how do you know I was talking about a different (and actual) Josh Whedon? I call for a recount!
posted by The God Complex at 12:38 PM on November 7, 2002
*whines, points at The God Complex:*
"He said it first!"
I actually never heard of the guy, so I'm out of the pop culture sweepstakes altogether.
posted by languagehat at 1:54 PM on November 7, 2002
"He said it first!"
I actually never heard of the guy, so I'm out of the pop culture sweepstakes altogether.
posted by languagehat at 1:54 PM on November 7, 2002
All this jokery has got me thinking: What's this place like on April 1st?
posted by Shane at 2:15 PM on November 7, 2002
posted by Shane at 2:15 PM on November 7, 2002
What's this place like on April 1st
It's like this.
posted by timeistight at 2:35 PM on November 7, 2002
It's like this.
posted by timeistight at 2:35 PM on November 7, 2002
'Your search - news, poems, "fat people", sniper, pancake - did not match any documents.'
posted by nthdegx at 2:40 PM on November 7, 2002
posted by nthdegx at 2:40 PM on November 7, 2002
But it's OK to post the lamest and tritest little thing that has to do with sex with children--right? Whoo hoo, that certainly fits the there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others criteria. That's entertainment! And certainly not a waste of time and bandwidth.With apologies to Salt 'n Pepa--Let's talk about sex with kids!/Every time we can!...
This is completely unfair, Y2Karl. There was much more to that post than some trite joke; it was a celebration of a beloved childrens' author who has a large body of amazing work that most people aren't even aware exists. That post generated the second-highest amount of comments for the day, so I obviously must have tapped into the community's interests on some level.
I can't help but to think a great breach of etiquette happened on that board. How would you have assessed someone who interrupted your William Butler Yeats thread with a comment like 'This post is crap. Please delete.'? You would no doubt consider them a troll.
posted by dgaicun at 11:13 PM on November 7, 2002
This is completely unfair, Y2Karl. There was much more to that post than some trite joke; it was a celebration of a beloved childrens' author who has a large body of amazing work that most people aren't even aware exists. That post generated the second-highest amount of comments for the day, so I obviously must have tapped into the community's interests on some level.
I can't help but to think a great breach of etiquette happened on that board. How would you have assessed someone who interrupted your William Butler Yeats thread with a comment like 'This post is crap. Please delete.'? You would no doubt consider them a troll.
posted by dgaicun at 11:13 PM on November 7, 2002
Drat. Serves me right for having a job and schedule on the other side of the planet from everybody except some certain wonderchickens.
posted by hama7 at 5:25 AM on November 8, 2002
posted by hama7 at 5:25 AM on November 8, 2002
dgaicun: A lowest common denominator link to one song lyric with no other links or textual support is weak. I admit I over-reactedspoke too soon and in error, in part--note the NAMBLA comments your post's wording provoked--but... I would argue that that only the intelligent comments made in the thread salvaged your otherwise lazy-ass lamest weakest link. Content-wise the post was worthy. Delivery-wise, the post was crap.
That post generated the second-highest amount of comments for the day, so I obviously must have tapped into the community's interests on some level.
My name's not Brian! Ryan Adams gives a fan a refund and asks him to leave a concert when said fan asks him to play "Summer of '69". Have you ever been to a concert where the performer lost it at the audience? I guess even folk rockers can be divas...
posted by PenDevil at 2:02 AM PST on Oct 17 - 119 comments
If you want to go by comments as indicators of linkworthiness, be my guest. (No snark on PenDevil--just on your after-the-fact pomposity)
If it was a celebration of a beloved childrens' author who has a large body of amazing work that most people aren't even aware exists--why didn't you provide more than your own admittedly trite joke? Shel Silverstein deserved far better than that.
posted by y2karl at 8:34 AM on November 8, 2002
That post generated the second-highest amount of comments for the day, so I obviously must have tapped into the community's interests on some level.
My name's not Brian! Ryan Adams gives a fan a refund and asks him to leave a concert when said fan asks him to play "Summer of '69". Have you ever been to a concert where the performer lost it at the audience? I guess even folk rockers can be divas...
posted by PenDevil at 2:02 AM PST on Oct 17 - 119 comments
If you want to go by comments as indicators of linkworthiness, be my guest. (No snark on PenDevil--just on your after-the-fact pomposity)
If it was a celebration of a beloved childrens' author who has a large body of amazing work that most people aren't even aware exists--why didn't you provide more than your own admittedly trite joke? Shel Silverstein deserved far better than that.
posted by y2karl at 8:34 AM on November 8, 2002
A lowest common denominator link to one song lyric with no other links or textual support is weak.
I linked to an obscure sequel to a very famous and noteworthy song. Seemingly, a fair contribution to the frontpage in itself. But I also waited for some discussion to develop about the song, then I provided my source for the link, a large archive of Silverstein's adult-themed work. A golden find by any measure.
I would argue that that only the intelligent comments made in the thread salvaged your otherwise lazy-ass lamest weakest link.
How was linking to a famous poet like William Butler Yeats an obscure netfind? How was your link qualitatively better than mine? What gives you the right to be such a condescending prick?
If you want to go by comments as indicators of linkworthiness, be my guest.
Yes, I would say that people actually showing interest in and discussing a link and issues relating to it, is a crucial factor in determining a link's merit. I would also say my link fit all the other criteria for a good posting as well.
why didn't you provide more than your own admittedly trite joke? Shel Silverstein deserved far better than that.
Delivery-wise, the post was crap.
It was a humorous song, and I winked at the humor in my introduction. What's the problem? Are you just too sophisticated to laugh at sex jokes? Why do I doubt this? Straight-forward, minimalist introductions to material, with more information provided later aren't 'crap', they are a fairly standard way to present material:
Athena Parthenos, the cult statue made by Phidias, once in the Parthenon: here rendered by the Franch Beaux Arts architect Benoit Loviot. Slow but worth the wait, with more inside.
Posted by Y2Karl on Nov. 30 2001
Not everyone may be thrilled with every style of posting, but most people exhibit a little class, and don't drop in and yell an unqualified 'Crap!', because of some superficial concern about introduction style. Most people aren't jerks.
posted by dgaicun at 10:41 AM on November 8, 2002
I linked to an obscure sequel to a very famous and noteworthy song. Seemingly, a fair contribution to the frontpage in itself. But I also waited for some discussion to develop about the song, then I provided my source for the link, a large archive of Silverstein's adult-themed work. A golden find by any measure.
I would argue that that only the intelligent comments made in the thread salvaged your otherwise lazy-ass lamest weakest link.
How was linking to a famous poet like William Butler Yeats an obscure netfind? How was your link qualitatively better than mine? What gives you the right to be such a condescending prick?
If you want to go by comments as indicators of linkworthiness, be my guest.
Yes, I would say that people actually showing interest in and discussing a link and issues relating to it, is a crucial factor in determining a link's merit. I would also say my link fit all the other criteria for a good posting as well.
why didn't you provide more than your own admittedly trite joke? Shel Silverstein deserved far better than that.
Delivery-wise, the post was crap.
It was a humorous song, and I winked at the humor in my introduction. What's the problem? Are you just too sophisticated to laugh at sex jokes? Why do I doubt this? Straight-forward, minimalist introductions to material, with more information provided later aren't 'crap', they are a fairly standard way to present material:
Athena Parthenos, the cult statue made by Phidias, once in the Parthenon: here rendered by the Franch Beaux Arts architect Benoit Loviot. Slow but worth the wait, with more inside.
Posted by Y2Karl on Nov. 30 2001
Not everyone may be thrilled with every style of posting, but most people exhibit a little class, and don't drop in and yell an unqualified 'Crap!', because of some superficial concern about introduction style. Most people aren't jerks.
posted by dgaicun at 10:41 AM on November 8, 2002
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posted by y6y6y6 at 7:53 AM on November 7, 2002