I found this on my blog, which you should read

April 5, 2001 9:31 AM

While arguably all good posts, radio_mookie has posted 6 links in the last three days, while only having 4 comments, and all of the links seem to be cut and paste from his weblog... Does this fall under using the front page as your own blog with Metafilter being your commenting system?
posted by Neb to Etiquette/Policy at 9:31 AM (39 comments total)

If it doesn't, I'm not sure what does.
posted by lia at 9:45 AM on April 5, 2001

I concur. The cut-and-paste-ness of them is what's freaking me out the most; just put BlogVoices on your site and go that route if you'd like comments.
posted by hijinx at 10:08 AM on April 5, 2001

I've got feathers, if someone else grabs the tar.

posted by norm at 11:51 AM on April 5, 2001

Damn, I thought it was my turn to bring the feathers! We can't just go feather and feather a person, that'll just bring on insane amounts of laughter. And not the good kind of laughter that tar and feathering brings on either, that bad kind that means someone's enjoying themself.

Has anyone mentioned to radio_mookie that there's a discussion 'round here about hiim? No point in yabbering away if he's not aware.
posted by cCranium at 12:07 PM on April 5, 2001

wow, 2 more today, and I don't know how much discussion (if any) either will generate.

I just emailed him.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 12:25 PM on April 5, 2001

Tar and feathers are so nineteenth century. How about superglue and packing peanuts?
posted by anapestic at 1:13 PM on April 5, 2001

More annoying: They're all wire stories, aren't they?
posted by anildash at 1:21 PM on April 5, 2001

Still more annoying: they're almost all stories that were posted on obscurestore first. (I may have overreacted, though. sorry.)
posted by palegirl at 1:26 PM on April 5, 2001

A word from radio_mookie

1) I live in NY city so I read the Keanu story in the NY Post not on Obscure Store.
2) Yes it is general news.
3) Yes it is a tragedy.
4) Drugs & driving don't mix (at least not the kind she seemed to be prescribed to)
5) I'm not a callous flippant bastard, but I did stir up a few good reactions, didn't I?
6) I promise to read Obscure Store first before posting anything here.
7) I promise not to cut and paste from my blog anymore.
8) I am a metafilter newbie.
9) I'm allergic to feathers.
10) Please accept my appologies.
posted by radio_mookie at 2:10 PM on April 5, 2001

now that's quite civil. thanks, mookie.
posted by pnevares at 2:13 PM on April 5, 2001

It's not even original. It's yet another cut-and-paste job, this time from the comments section of his own post.
posted by darren at 2:14 PM on April 5, 2001

Well, yeah, but it's also the post where he got originally spanked as well. I don't have a problem with a blanket apology; I interpreted it as trying to reach everyone he could with it.
posted by Skot at 2:19 PM on April 5, 2001

oh please darren....
posted by Avogadro at 2:20 PM on April 5, 2001

I was just trying to reach everyone ... geez, you guys are tearing me apart.

(FYI - only posted here)
posted by radio_mookie at 2:21 PM on April 5, 2001

yeah - what Skot said. I mean, sure, a personally crafted apology for MetaTalk would have been more neighborly, but sheesh, he's trying to apologize.
posted by varmint at 2:22 PM on April 5, 2001

I think darren was joking.

jeez people.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 2:24 PM on April 5, 2001

I'm recharging my dry humor detector as I type this.
posted by varmint at 2:27 PM on April 5, 2001

Sorry--I guess I didn't catch the tone if darren was joking.

Feh. Let's all go get a drink.
posted by Skot at 2:44 PM on April 5, 2001

did someone steal someone's webpage design again?
posted by jbeaumont at 3:05 PM on April 5, 2001

This makes the fourth time in as many months that someone felt the need to publicly roast a fellow participant "for crimes against humanity". Why wasn't this handled privately by email? Was it necessary to publicly humiliate someone?
posted by Steven Den Beste at 3:28 PM on April 5, 2001

We're watching [b]you[/b] Steven...
posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 3:33 PM on April 5, 2001

D'oh!
Damn my proprietary markup ways!
posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 3:33 PM on April 5, 2001

*tars and feathers CrazyUncleJoe for using UBBScript*
And thus, justice is done.
posted by darukaru at 3:56 PM on April 5, 2001

Steven DB: I thought this was a breach of ettiquette, but I don't consider myself as holding any authority in such matters. So, I asked the community if it was a breach of ettiquette. All the comments that followed belong to their respective posters. Does my inital post count as a public roasting? I can assure you that humiliation wasn't my intent...
posted by Neb at 5:34 PM on April 5, 2001

I've noticed that the etiquette of etiquette posting is to preferrably not name people directly but rather use the Mao Zedong style:

"Some comrades have been making the following mistake..." (by implication: you know who you are)

Then the offender is dragged off and torn apart by the angy masses...
posted by lagado at 7:42 PM on April 5, 2001

Ah. I understand now comrade. I shall see if norm and cCranium used all of the tar and feathers.
posted by Neb at 9:30 PM on April 5, 2001

I think it was in grade school that I first had explained to me the difference between criticism and constructive criticism.

I thought the latter was what this topic area was here for. I see no roasting happening here, and I think the people who care about the community enough to post to MetaTalk are in general very good about keeping things constructive.

Surely no one here is suggesting that merely making an etiquette post at all automatically makes one a Big Meanie? Or, if that is the suggestion, perhaps someone can tell me what rightly ought to be posted here. "A great big gold star to HappyGoodPostGuy, for posting a link which is well-summarized, points to something cool on the web, is not on his own site, and fostered well-thought discourse among members of the MeFi community!"

... hey, there's an idea. Poster of the Month. If we all had godawful deer-in-the-headlight Polaroid blowups of ourselves we could have a Wall of Fame, like at your local grocery store. Me first, me me me!
posted by Sapphireblue at 9:51 PM on April 5, 2001

Neb, we never had the tar, but there's all these feather's round here, I'm sure we can give you a good deal on them.
posted by cCranium at 8:59 AM on April 6, 2001

I routinely cut and paste my metafilter posts over to my blog. It never occurred to me that this would be a problem.

One of the most important audiences for my weblog is folks who aren't that comfortable with the web (like my Mom) and don't have a daily routine which includes slashdot, some 'oddly enough' site, metafilter, kottke, robotwisdom, one or two newspapers, and the bbc. If I find a great article and my first thought is "I want to share this with MetaFilter", my second is invariably "I want to share this with my Mom."

This is cool, right? Just checking.
posted by sudama at 9:33 AM on April 6, 2001

Blogging for you mom is always cool!
posted by jennyb at 11:51 AM on April 6, 2001

I've been blogging for my mom since day 1.

posted by norm at 12:11 PM on April 6, 2001

Sure there are a lot of feathers around here, thanks to that poor bird. I'm not sure using them to T&F a self-linker is exactly respectful of the pigeon's memory, but...
posted by bradlands at 12:57 PM on April 6, 2001

This makes the fourth time in as many months that someone felt the need to publicly roast a fellow participant "for crimes against humanity". Why wasn't this handled privately by email? Was it necessary to publicly humiliate someone?

Cue the violins.

If people don't want their links to be subjected to public scrutiny, they shouldn't post to MetaFilter. If you find MetaTalk such a callous and hateful place, why do you continue to wander over here?
posted by rcade at 7:52 AM on April 8, 2001

For the longest time, rcade, I've had you listed under the "not an asshole" category in my mind.

With comments like the above, I can't for the life of me figure out why I made that mistake.
posted by cCranium at 12:16 PM on April 10, 2001

cCranium: I'm fatigued by Steven's persistent hand-wringing about MetaTalk, which I think is an overreaction to some things that were said about him in a past MetaTalk thread. So I expressed that, perhaps in a more blunt way than I should have.

Calling me an asshole is a funny way to put me in my place for being rude, but I'll take your scorn under advisement.
posted by rcade at 5:16 PM on April 11, 2001

My problem with comments like "why do you continue to wander over here?" is that it's exclusionary.

While I do doubt that was your intent, this (MetaTalk) is the place to express concerns over the way this community acts. If someone's concerned that an aspect of MeFi is overly-harsh, then this is the place to discuss that concern.

Casually dismissing someone's concerns as "persistant hand-wringing" can very easily create a climate in which people are reluctant to express their concerns, and I don't think that's what this community is about.

My intent was never to put you in your place for being rude. My intent was to attack you for being an asshole to someone I like and respect.
posted by cCranium at 8:36 AM on April 12, 2001

My intent was to attack you for being an asshole to someone I like and respect.

That's what I figured. Dressing up a personal attack as some kind of civic-minded concern for MetaFilter's "climate" is lame.

In the future, when you're just trying to stick up for your buddies, be a grown-up and take it to e-mail.
posted by rcade at 10:43 AM on April 12, 2001

... and with that last remark, I managed to be childish, condescending, and violate my own advice!

Urgh. That hurts to read.
posted by rcade at 11:12 AM on April 12, 2001

Just a quick note to anyone paying attention:

It's been moved to e-mail (by rcade, who took his own advice), and that's where it will stay.
posted by cCranium at 11:29 AM on April 12, 2001