He came from under the bridge July 13, 2001 9:51 AM Subscribe
This fellow, seems to be one a dem dere trolls....
bad taste on tap....
posted by ParisParamus at 10:10 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by ParisParamus at 10:10 AM on July 13, 2001
He seems to be quite proud of his trollness, in fact. At least he can't claim to be unaware of standards of etiquette.
posted by harmful at 10:22 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by harmful at 10:22 AM on July 13, 2001
I really wish someone else had posted that story, because the link is extremely interesting and could have generated some great discussion. It wouldn't be so bad if he were trolling about Big Brother, but his language is ruining what could be fascinating discourse.
posted by frykitty at 10:26 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by frykitty at 10:26 AM on July 13, 2001
Yes, the guy's obviously an idiot. His post did make me think about something though. I have somebody working for me this summer who [formerly, until I chewed his ass out one day] tossed around the word 'retard' in that same flippant manner, very amused over the whole thing. It's interesting because this particular guy is only slightly less socialized than many other people I know; that is he's not a complete neandertal. I find it intereseting that there are many people who wouldn't toss around the elementary-school level 'faggot', yet seem to think that 'retard' is somehow even borderline acceptable.
posted by DiplomaticImmunity at 10:31 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by DiplomaticImmunity at 10:31 AM on July 13, 2001
I'm sure I'll take plenty of shit for this, but it takes two for a troll to pull it off, ya know.
Perhaps some of you are a wee bit too concerned with who is posting right-thinking thoughts.
The only thing more of a drag than an ignorant comment is wave after wave of people pointing out their horror and shock at the incorrectness of said comment.
Is it really so hard to simply ignore that which you don't agree with?
This is a place of ideas, you can't expect to like them all.
posted by dong_resin at 10:33 AM on July 13, 2001
Perhaps some of you are a wee bit too concerned with who is posting right-thinking thoughts.
The only thing more of a drag than an ignorant comment is wave after wave of people pointing out their horror and shock at the incorrectness of said comment.
Is it really so hard to simply ignore that which you don't agree with?
This is a place of ideas, you can't expect to like them all.
posted by dong_resin at 10:33 AM on July 13, 2001
: "My nickname was tweek but it stopped working, so now it's tweek!"
Maybe it's time for the new one to "stop working" too.
posted by fraying at 10:35 AM on July 13, 2001
Maybe it's time for the new one to "stop working" too.
posted by fraying at 10:35 AM on July 13, 2001
I think it's amazing that after he admitted he was trolling, people kept responding to him.
posted by Doug at 10:39 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by Doug at 10:39 AM on July 13, 2001
It's not all that amazing... that's what trolls do: they illicit response.
He'll be banned soon enough.
posted by silusGROK at 10:44 AM on July 13, 2001
He'll be banned soon enough.
posted by silusGROK at 10:44 AM on July 13, 2001
paging mathowie...mathowie, please pick up the white courtesy phone...
posted by judith at 10:49 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by judith at 10:49 AM on July 13, 2001
Vis10n, you're right, but I mean....when they SAY they're trolling...I guess, in reality, people keep responding because they're, well, good people.
posted by Doug at 11:02 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by Doug at 11:02 AM on July 13, 2001
Ugh, dong_resin - you are so right on. Those who may bite the troll's bait should really resist. I fell for it hook line and sinker. It's a hot-button issue for me - as I said in my post, my brother has autism, it's been a source of ridicule and reactionary defensiveness my whole life. When I see that casual use of the word "retard", it's like someone just spit on me and my family. (Go ahead and spit tweek, if you're reading this).
Now I'm biting my tongue, because - despite an antagonistic retort - there is absolutely nothing more that should be said. And it doesn't contribute to anything. And it's ugly when a mob of self-righteous people screams "thou shalt not utter that word". But I really hate to hear or read it, you know. Ugh.
As frykitty said earlier, too bad this interesting topic had to be posted in such an infantile and inflammatory way.
posted by kokogiak at 11:11 AM on July 13, 2001
Now I'm biting my tongue, because - despite an antagonistic retort - there is absolutely nothing more that should be said. And it doesn't contribute to anything. And it's ugly when a mob of self-righteous people screams "thou shalt not utter that word". But I really hate to hear or read it, you know. Ugh.
As frykitty said earlier, too bad this interesting topic had to be posted in such an infantile and inflammatory way.
posted by kokogiak at 11:11 AM on July 13, 2001
I don't think he's actually trolling throughout the entire thread. It seems to me that he does actually have worthwhile things to say, he's just unable to do so without posting a few other comments in there to inflame people. I think his reaction to being called out on the usage of the word "retard" was WAY too defensive and the "Homosaywhat" in the original post is still.. confusing me, but I don't think a person who simply had trolling in mind would post such a good topic like that. (More likely he'd just post a "BUSH SUCKS" article & start ranting or something :)
posted by zempf at 11:19 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by zempf at 11:19 AM on July 13, 2001
Perhaps not so much a troll, but a cretin.
And, for what it's worth, "homosaywhat?" was never funny.
posted by solistrato at 11:22 AM on July 13, 2001
And, for what it's worth, "homosaywhat?" was never funny.
posted by solistrato at 11:22 AM on July 13, 2001
They ELICIT response. But "illicit response" has some depth to it, too.
posted by davidmsc at 11:22 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by davidmsc at 11:22 AM on July 13, 2001
You know what I'm sick of? All this talk of trolls.
When you meet someone at a party who says something inappropriate or baiting, do you immediately call him/her a troll? Can we relax a little?
posted by ZippityBOP at 11:37 AM on July 13, 2001
When you meet someone at a party who says something inappropriate or baiting, do you immediately call him/her a troll? Can we relax a little?
posted by ZippityBOP at 11:37 AM on July 13, 2001
It's one thing to be inappropriate or bait, I do it from time to time, it's another to be overtly agressive in it.
Also, I still catch myself saying something is "retarded" or "gay" at times. My political correctness chip has not completely kicked in.
posted by owillis at 11:42 AM on July 13, 2001
Also, I still catch myself saying something is "retarded" or "gay" at times. My political correctness chip has not completely kicked in.
posted by owillis at 11:42 AM on July 13, 2001
It's not often that a troll reveals the inner bitterness that made him want to troll in the first place. Obviously this whole episode was an excuse for tweek! to reveal his wrongful treatment as a child.
When he had everyone's attention, he went right for the "But seriously folks" thing about how he was wrongly included in "Special Ed" as a child. Like he felt negative attention to his bitterness was better than no attention at all.
--and I would just like to break in here and say this is my first-ever post to MetaTalk. I'd like to thank all the little people that made this possible...That's showbiz!
posted by Kafkaesque at 11:51 AM on July 13, 2001
When he had everyone's attention, he went right for the "But seriously folks" thing about how he was wrongly included in "Special Ed" as a child. Like he felt negative attention to his bitterness was better than no attention at all.
--and I would just like to break in here and say this is my first-ever post to MetaTalk. I'd like to thank all the little people that made this possible...That's showbiz!
posted by Kafkaesque at 11:51 AM on July 13, 2001
The "little people" prefer vertically challenged, you insensitive dingo's kidneys.
posted by dong_resin at 11:56 AM on July 13, 2001
posted by dong_resin at 11:56 AM on July 13, 2001
Get him.
posted by solistrato at 12:01 PM on July 13, 2001
posted by solistrato at 12:01 PM on July 13, 2001
for what it's worth, I prefer "indigenous Australian feral canine's renal center".
posted by Kafkaesque at 12:03 PM on July 13, 2001
posted by Kafkaesque at 12:03 PM on July 13, 2001
I'll bet you do, you pervert.
posted by dong_resin at 12:11 PM on July 13, 2001
posted by dong_resin at 12:11 PM on July 13, 2001
He seems to be quite proud of his trollness
"Trollness"? Shouldn't it be "trollishness" or "trollitude" or "trollition"?
I agree that there's too much calling people trolls around here, but I'm fascinated by alternative forms of the word.
The thread in question made me very sad, ultimately. It started out uglily, and then people came along and disagreed with tweek mostly civilly. Even Skot was restrained. Then the thread turned into a real discussion and for a while people were ignorning tweek. Then at some point, they started to pile on him again. That's when I got sad. It does seem like it's impossible for a discussion not to disintegrate around here.
I would now like to borrow the baby Jesus' hanky.
posted by anapestic at 12:32 PM on July 13, 2001
"Trollness"? Shouldn't it be "trollishness" or "trollitude" or "trollition"?
I agree that there's too much calling people trolls around here, but I'm fascinated by alternative forms of the word.
The thread in question made me very sad, ultimately. It started out uglily, and then people came along and disagreed with tweek mostly civilly. Even Skot was restrained. Then the thread turned into a real discussion and for a while people were ignorning tweek. Then at some point, they started to pile on him again. That's when I got sad. It does seem like it's impossible for a discussion not to disintegrate around here.
I would now like to borrow the baby Jesus' hanky.
posted by anapestic at 12:32 PM on July 13, 2001
He’s an ass, not a troll. There is a distinct difference between him and the Private_(Whoever) yutz.
If you don’t like Tweek, ignore him.
I, however, would let him teach me French.
posted by capt.crackpipe at 12:37 PM on July 13, 2001
If you don’t like Tweek, ignore him.
I, however, would let him teach me French.
posted by capt.crackpipe at 12:37 PM on July 13, 2001
I, however, would let him teach me French.
I bet you would, you....Oh never mind.
posted by Kafkaesque at 12:44 PM on July 13, 2001
I bet you would, you....Oh never mind.
posted by Kafkaesque at 12:44 PM on July 13, 2001
Trollsterism is inherently showboative; don't watch the show, and they go back under the bridge.
You guys jumped on him like hungry piranhas, though :) As someone who occasions enjoys tossing a bit of flamebait, that's the hook, baby. Troll finds the button that turns on the heat, they PUSH.
But there's no reason, if a link is good but a troll is there, we can't simply talk around him/her. If everyone declines to get snitty, said troll will eventually split for more aggravatory pastures.
posted by UncleFes at 1:27 PM on July 13, 2001
You guys jumped on him like hungry piranhas, though :) As someone who occasions enjoys tossing a bit of flamebait, that's the hook, baby. Troll finds the button that turns on the heat, they PUSH.
But there's no reason, if a link is good but a troll is there, we can't simply talk around him/her. If everyone declines to get snitty, said troll will eventually split for more aggravatory pastures.
posted by UncleFes at 1:27 PM on July 13, 2001
"The "little people" prefer vertically challenged, you insensitive dingo's kidneys."
"Get him."
"for what it's worth, I prefer "indigenous Australian feral canine's renal center". "
"I'll bet you do, you pervert."
Honestly, the funniest thing I've read in months.
posted by Wulfgar! at 1:42 PM on July 13, 2001
"Get him."
"for what it's worth, I prefer "indigenous Australian feral canine's renal center". "
"I'll bet you do, you pervert."
Honestly, the funniest thing I've read in months.
posted by Wulfgar! at 1:42 PM on July 13, 2001
I'll bet you do, you pervert.
We prefer sexually nontraditional.
I have to admit that his troll was so juicy that, even knowing it was a troll, it was hard to fight the urge to respond. I even wrote something, but replaced it with the billy goat comment. I think I called him an asshole in the <!-- comments -->, though.
posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 2:07 PM on July 13, 2001
We prefer sexually nontraditional.
I have to admit that his troll was so juicy that, even knowing it was a troll, it was hard to fight the urge to respond. I even wrote something, but replaced it with the billy goat comment. I think I called him an asshole in the <!-- comments -->, though.
posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 2:07 PM on July 13, 2001
The "little people" prefer vertically challenged, you insensitive dingo's kidneys.
The politically correct term for the "little people" is the same thing it has been for centuries: "fair folk". And if I were you, I'd be careful not to offend them--I failed to leave them some of my ice cream the other day, and they've been causing all sorts of nasty bugs in my computer ever since.
posted by moss at 3:13 PM on July 13, 2001
The politically correct term for the "little people" is the same thing it has been for centuries: "fair folk". And if I were you, I'd be careful not to offend them--I failed to leave them some of my ice cream the other day, and they've been causing all sorts of nasty bugs in my computer ever since.
posted by moss at 3:13 PM on July 13, 2001
My political correctness chip has not completely kicked in.
Anyone remember when being "politically correct" was just known as being "polite"? Or "tactful." Or "mannerly"?
Not every turn of phrase is in ill-favor for political reasons. In fact, few are. Sometimes, they're just rude.
posted by bradlands at 3:38 PM on July 13, 2001
Anyone remember when being "politically correct" was just known as being "polite"? Or "tactful." Or "mannerly"?
Not every turn of phrase is in ill-favor for political reasons. In fact, few are. Sometimes, they're just rude.
posted by bradlands at 3:38 PM on July 13, 2001
Get him.
posted by solistrato at 6:27 PM on July 13, 2001
posted by solistrato at 6:27 PM on July 13, 2001
Trollosity. As in "his posts fell so quickly off topic they must of been travelling at terminal trollosity".
posted by Neale at 12:06 AM on July 14, 2001
posted by Neale at 12:06 AM on July 14, 2001
We have a winner!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:05 AM on July 14, 2001
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:05 AM on July 14, 2001
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posted by rcade at 9:59 AM on July 13, 2001