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The pancakes are getting incredibly stale, people.
Metafilter used to be an addiction for me, but lately with more and more Newsfilter, and boring Newsfilter at that, can we really say we are the best of the Web anymore? Final straw was the posting of that Bush daughter photo.
Is this really what we want this place to be?
posted by konolia to Etiquette/Policy at 12:30 PM (250 comments total)

Is there an echo in here?
posted by tr33hggr at 12:37 PM on July 21, 2004


"Yes", says lots of frequent MeFi contributers. Haven't you been paying attention? There is a genuine division of opinion about what MeFi is and is supposed to be. And then the largest group, perhaps, thinks the in-betweeness of what it is as a practical matter is Just Dandy.

We argue about this every week. Only Matt has the power to substantially change anything if he were to decide to do so. Otherwise MeFi is going to continue to drift in whatever direction it's been drifting for some time now. I care about that direction as much as anyone, and I'll in my own little ways still try to influence it. But as a means for deciding this, or reaching a consensus, or really solving the problem in any sense, MeTa has demonstrated its futility.

Unless you have a new approach? Something we haven't tried before? I don't mean a new solution to what you perceive as the problem, but a new approach to discussing the problem, or even getting enough people to agree there is a problem. Unless you've got something novel to offer, there's not much point in having this discussion again this week.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:45 PM on July 21, 2004


Bitch, whine, moan, complain, MetaTalk post. Talk about stale. Have some better content to post? Post it yourself.
posted by kjh at 12:49 PM on July 21, 2004


what kjh said
posted by matteo at 12:52 PM on July 21, 2004


Soon my comment will mean something other than it intends.
posted by tr33hggr at 12:56 PM on July 21, 2004


Intends. Intends.
posted by brownpau at 1:00 PM on July 21, 2004


Well, it was a stupid post, but so is another round of fighting about newfilter. Why didn't you just post that this thread should be deleted instead of trotting out this tired argument again?

postroad's post should be deleted. Why do we need 100+ comments of fighting in order to agree that it's a lame post?
posted by The God Complex at 1:04 PM on July 21, 2004


That's not even newsfilter TGC.
posted by Witty at 1:13 PM on July 21, 2004


Just out of morbid curiousity, has anyone actually been kicked off MeFi? If so, what were the offenses? I mean, if there's no repercussions, what's to stop me from posting goatse links fifty times a day if I just ignore the grey like Postroad does?
posted by keswick at 1:19 PM on July 21, 2004


Hey Miguel...I kid, it's summer - you know the routine. You are right that lately we are following the news’ report than leading the news to the story. Usually come fall the posts begin will be better. Unfortunately this fall it will be winter with the snow flurry of political posts.

Did you check out the Bush daughters' 69 pictorial links in the post?
posted by thomcatspike at 1:24 PM on July 21, 2004


Christian soldier
She wanna kill some posts
She claims that Metafilllllter's
Become a wienie roast
Christian woman talk
To the Postroads of the world
In fact she's getting antsy
That the community's come unfurled

She's so booooored with the blue-and-grey.
But what can she do?
posted by Mayor Curley at 1:25 PM on July 21, 2004


This stupid MeTa callout was worth it just for that, Mister Mayor.

*downloads some Clash; keeps wary eye out for RIAA*
posted by scody at 1:29 PM on July 21, 2004


I don't see this cycle of whining and complaining leading to no action ending anytime soon. If Matt continues to do nothing, this is just going to endlessly repeat.

Sometimes, I wish we were ruled by an iron fist. Hands-off management has its downsides.

None of us has the power to do anything to curtail another's perceived negative posting behavior except to hurl words in a (futile) attempt to convince the perpetrator of their wrongdoing. Only Matt has the power to set and enforce policy, and he's clearly not stepping up to the plate.

Same shit, different meta thread. Next!
posted by beth at 1:30 PM on July 21, 2004


Is this the start of your public burnout?
posted by milovoo at 1:32 PM on July 21, 2004


.
posted by Seth at 1:32 PM on July 21, 2004


nah, konolia's been there and done that, milovoo : >

(and Postroad doesn't come here anyway so posting here about him is useless)
posted by amberglow at 1:35 PM on July 21, 2004


konolia, you LIKE Bush, right? It kinda devalues your argument, whether you're posting out of agendafilter or not. Just doesn't look good.
I'm assuming, of course, that this BushDaughterPhoto was a derogatory thing. Where is it?
posted by Shane at 1:36 PM on July 21, 2004


Sometimes, I wish we were ruled by an iron fist. Hands-off management has its downsides.

Actually, one of the things that keeps me coming back is the assumption that crap weeks may come and go, but by and large we do police ourselves. This has been a cruddy week for newsfilter and MeTa callouts for various fuck-yous, but enough people are trying to make it better that eventually we'll shun and shame the knuckleheads and spitemongers back a couple of steps, and someone will post something really, really beautiful and uplifting, or really thought-provokingly idiotic, or whatever, and the pendulum will swing back the other way.

I believe. That Bush-girl post will go, because it needs a wheelchair, it's so lame. And something slightly less lame (or lamer than that; I'm not psychic) will fill the hole, and we'll do another glorious lap. Sic transit gloria friggin' mundi.

But I got ten bucks says Postroad reads these callouts with his pinkie at the corner of his mouth, and gets a good chuckle out of them.
posted by chicobangs at 1:43 PM on July 21, 2004


what we need is metametatalk so I can start calling out all these reposts about lame content on the front page. until matt has time to edit everything for you, you'll just have to learn how to use the damn scroll buttons.
(they're the pointy things over there ------> )
posted by badstone at 1:48 PM on July 21, 2004


nah, konolia's been there and done that, milovoo : >

So more of a penultimate straw, and stale but still edible pancakes.

(I didn't think that the Bush's daughter pic had any particular meaning either Dem or Repub. Just a dumb kid fooling around, doesn't have relevance to any important issues that I know of. Although my personal take is that it's inherited dumb, but that's not provable either way)
posted by milovoo at 1:49 PM on July 21, 2004


I'm assuming, of course, that this BushDaughterPhoto was a derogatory thing.
Nah, it's all part of their strategy to get the spoiled brat vote.
posted by amberglow at 1:55 PM on July 21, 2004


I find that things tend to fester in the summer; when thought patterns turn languid, and posting is perpetuated more by boredom than enlightenment.
posted by naxosaxur at 2:09 PM on July 21, 2004


If you think its bad now, konolia, just imagine what its going to be like in October.
posted by ChasFile at 2:14 PM on July 21, 2004


I try to make decent front page posts; I don't find them every day. That is the only thing I know to do.

Maybe this post is stale and useless as well-but I have been almost the ultimate Metafilter apologist for a very long time now, both as a member and as an exile. The last several weeks I have realized that I don't come here as often or spend as much time, and when I am here it is nowhere near as interesting. And ChasFile, you are right-it has the real potential of getting much worse before it gets better.
In my previous incarnation as the crazed Bunnyfire, Matt did take a much firmer hand with the site. Many of us whined and moaned about THAT. Well, I take it all back. Somebody buy #1 a new set of clippers and set him loose!
posted by konolia at 2:32 PM on July 21, 2004


"Matt did take a much firmer hand with the site."

This isn't true. Election time has always been a train wreck around here. Go back and see the front page taken over by Nader/Bush/Gore crap in 2000. And I see Matt deleting as much or more than he did back when you started.

"when I am here it is nowhere near as interesting"

The only time you're interesting is when you trot out some ludicrous reason why gay marriage will ruin society. Which is pure MeFi gold for sure.
posted by y6y6y6 at 2:48 PM on July 21, 2004


Personally, I think the only thing to do is suspend Postroad's account. While I realize that Postroad does contribute some thought-provoking stuff and is clearly no idiot, his consistent, unabashed newsfiltering - combined with his longstanding refusal to respond to any criticism in the grey - constitutes a unilateral hijack of MetaFilter. I'm not saying kill him. I'm not saying burn his house down. But I think he needs a 1-month spell in the cooler. Other people I'd accuse of newsfiltering, notably y2karl, at least invest research and craft into their posts, which goes a long way toward defending their existence. But Postroad behaves like a Yahoo News spambot that's acquired a MeFi account password and randomly posts news items with keyword "Bush" on a 48-hour interval.
posted by scarabic at 3:09 PM on July 21, 2004


maybe we need a photo. or pics.metafilter.com? some of them are certainly worth more than a thousand words (the Abu Gharaib pics, 9/11 pics, Iraq pics, mass grave pics, edwards/kerry touching, etc...)
posted by amberglow at 3:19 PM on July 21, 2004


I thought things just always slowed down in the summer, all the young people are out doing young people things that don't require computers, and everyone else has the beach on their minds anyway. It's just a skeleton crew doing the best they can not to doze off. Some people can barely get up the energy for a good argument in this heat. Give it a few months.
posted by milovoo at 3:23 PM on July 21, 2004


the good old days of metafilter never happened. stop whining about them.
posted by quonsar at 3:30 PM on July 21, 2004


I thought things just always slowed down in the summer, all the young people are out doing young people things that don't require computers, and everyone else has the beach on their minds anyway.

[tangent]

not me I hate the beach. I'm skinny and irish, so I don't tan (or burn even, so much as burst into flame) and I look like a junkie with my shirt off. You're surround by muscleheads and beach bimbos, and in New York you're likelt yo step on syringes or victims of mob hits on the sand.

[/tangent]

So mefi has to entertain me.
posted by jonmc at 3:41 PM on July 21, 2004


I like many of Postroad's newsfilter posts. Some people may do a better job of putting a newsfilter post into context and adding interesting related links, but Postroad's newsfiltering isn't that bad, as long as you are tolerant to some degree of newsfilter. Nevertheless, I wish he would venture out of newsfilter once in awhile.

His post today: worthless. It will be gone, hopefully soon.

Despite the recent spate of newsfilter posts there have been a lot of really interesting front page posts recently. We probably see more best of web posts per day now than in 2000.
posted by caddis at 3:41 PM on July 21, 2004


You all did know about this, right ?
posted by y2karl at 3:51 PM on July 21, 2004


I'm skinny and irish, so I don't tan (or burn even, so much as burst into flame) and I look like a junkie with my shirt off.

Ahoy! You're the skeleton crew, aarrrrg!

It would be interesting to see the usage stats for summer.
I wonder if it really does decrease?
posted by milovoo at 3:53 PM on July 21, 2004


jonmc, I have visions of Jim Carroll on the beach.
posted by caddis at 3:55 PM on July 21, 2004


You all did know about this, right ?
nope--and cool! : >

and i'm with jon--this weather makes me want to be indoors, with the ac on high.
posted by amberglow at 3:55 PM on July 21, 2004


I mean, if there's no repercussions, what's to stop me from posting goatse links fifty times a day if I just ignore the grey like Postroad does?

You can get banned for posting goatse. You just can't get banned for telling fellow members to fuck off and that you hope they die.

This has been a cruddy week for newsfilter and MeTa callouts for various fuck-yous

So you blame the callouts but not the fuck-yous for the cruddiness of the week?
posted by rushmc at 3:55 PM on July 21, 2004


jonmc, I have visions of Jim Carroll on the beach.

Ha! Not that far off, caddis.

I actually once met a guy in the neighborhood. We got to talking music and I asked him if he'd ever heard of Jim Carroll.

"Heard of him?" he replied "I was in a methadone program with the fucker!"

I love New York.
posted by jonmc at 4:16 PM on July 21, 2004


You all did know about this, right ?

Nope. "Yet another unread blog," karl? ;)

I guess it would help Postroad linked it from his user page. Right now, it links to this (partly NSFW) which hasn't been updated since 2002, and redirects to this, which is all NSFW all the time. WTF? I guess it's good to know there's more on Postroad's mind than the middle east, but I never imagined his other interest would be so squarely set in the *cough* nether-lands.
posted by scarabic at 4:29 PM on July 21, 2004


"it would help if..."
posted by scarabic at 4:30 PM on July 21, 2004


There's silicone in them thar hills !
posted by y2karl at 4:49 PM on July 21, 2004


this may be a good time to post this.

that is one happy guy.
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 5:06 PM on July 21, 2004


I'm traveling for business all week and not really touching the site, so basically if things seem stinkier than usual, it's probably because I'm not around to delete the dumb stuff.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 5:18 PM on July 21, 2004


10 Things I've ascertained about Fred Lapides:

1) He likes the titties

2) He's older than all of us and presumably possesses more experience

3) He don't give two nickel-plated shits about this newfangled MetaTalk concept

4) His keyboard appears to be broke or something

5) He's likened Marriage to living in a kennel among snarling, incontinent German Shepherds. Wait, maybe that was SpaceCadet. Or maybe I just made it up?

6) You know how they say, "Nobody doesn't like Sara Lee™?" Well, Fred hates her. Cannot hold a civil concersation without bitterly invoking her name.

7) His contributions to the site have been mostly of a world-affairs bent, yet due to his unique writing style I've been unable to get a handle on his political stance

8) He hasn't yet made good on his vow to help O.J. find the "real killers"

9) He was dodging North Korean bullets back when your sorry asses were setting up your first Geocities page

10) He's quick with a joke, even if it's not always clear to you (or him) what the joke is



I say we keep him.
posted by dhoyt at 6:00 PM on July 21, 2004


What happened to my reply? Its about par with the crappy quality in this post anyway.
posted by Keyser Soze at 6:06 PM on July 21, 2004


Postroad's a composer? cool!

Keyser, type it in again--matt just stuck his head in the room to see that nothing was on fire--we're safe for the rest of the night. ; >
posted by amberglow at 6:08 PM on July 21, 2004


why am i flashing back to brief flurry of anarchy that would occur when the teacher would step out of the classroom in elementary school? shh! he's coming!
posted by keswick at 6:20 PM on July 21, 2004


[postroad]...redirects to this, which is all NSFW all the time.

Well, you know how us limp-wristed pansy liberals are, eh?
posted by Shane at 6:20 PM on July 21, 2004


We missed you, Matt.
posted by gleuschk at 6:25 PM on July 21, 2004


1) He likes the titties

Mm, no, he seems specifically to like the Topless Totties (NSFW!) Close, though.
(Sorry, getting a kick outta this.)
posted by Shane at 7:02 PM on July 21, 2004


Alright, break out the beer bong. . . (oh wait, is he gone yet?)

And yes, it does seem stinkier in here recently, thank you.
posted by Quartermass at 7:29 PM on July 21, 2004


Hey, um, maybe less, um, linking to porn? Even labeled as such?
posted by gleuschk at 8:20 PM on July 21, 2004

can we really say we are the best of the Web anymore?
Hell, we can't even say we were the best of the web at some time previous.
posted by mischief at 8:27 PM on July 21, 2004


I say we keep him.

Agreed. The guy's pushing 70, if not past, and his internet presence is quite impressive. Grampy pornmeister in his own right, the Agonist's man at MetaFilter and MetaFilter's man at the Agonist. In his opinions and interests, he is quite unpredictable--he continues to surprise us--and that is no small thing in itself. And he never gets personal nasty with people as far as I can recall. We should all be doing so well at that age, let alone irght now.
posted by y2karl at 8:50 PM on July 21, 2004


I had written about 4 paragraphs on my opinion of the direction and overall vision of MeFi, and then thought twice and deleted it all, because it can be summed up with "why doesn't Matt just add categories to the Blue, and have one for 'newsfilter'?" The purists (you vocal minority) can filter them out, the people who come to argue can have their playground, and their clicks can go into matt's pocket as ad revenue.
posted by Space Coyote at 8:52 PM on July 21, 2004


What does Postroad's age have to do with anything? Show respect by not discriminating, for or against.
posted by scarabic at 8:54 PM on July 21, 2004


I say we keep him.

Agreed.


Make that three votes. And not just because of the totties.
posted by Shane at 9:22 PM on July 21, 2004


What does Postroad's age have to do with anything? Show respect by not discriminating, for or against.

LOL, that's PC on LSD! Nothing wrong with "discriminating for" the over 70-crowd. They have legitimate differences, such as years of experience younger folk don't have.
posted by Shane at 9:43 PM on July 21, 2004


I say we keep him.

me too, despite the totties, heh.
posted by t r a c y at 9:45 PM on July 21, 2004


ya, let's keep postroad, the horny old goat. I wish he would post some art links - before he got so heavy into the t&a on his site, he used to post some really fabulous art & culture links there.

...and konolia, please don't leave us, g.f., take a summer break or something. I am sure it will get a bit rank and funky in here from now til the election, but that's gonna be the tone in the nation -- so if it's gonna suck everywhere, you might as well hang out here with us.
posted by madamjujujive at 10:23 PM on July 21, 2004


Hey, um, maybe less, um, linking to porn? Even labeled as such?

Why? Can't resist 'em?
posted by rushmc at 10:24 PM on July 21, 2004


Metafilter: If it's gonna suck everywhere, you might as well hang out here with us.
posted by rushmc at 10:25 PM on July 21, 2004


pssst, madamjujujive...ixnay on the uckingsay... :::looks at gleuschk:::
posted by rushmc at 10:26 PM on July 21, 2004


"It always does seem to me that I am doing more work than I should do. It is not that I object to the work, mind you; I like work: it fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours. I love to keep it by me: the idea of getting rid of it nearly breaks my heart.

You cannot give me too much work; to accumulate work has almost become a passion with me: my study is so full of it now, that there is hardly an inch of room for any more. I shall have to throw out a wing soon.

And I am careful of my work, too. Why, some of the work that I have by me now has been in my possession for years and years, and there isn't a finger-mark on it. I take a great pride in my work; I take it down now and then and dust it. No man keeps his work in a better state of
preservation than I do."
posted by MiguelCardoso at 10:43 PM on July 21, 2004


FWIW - since this has become a vote - I also would like to keep Postroad around, but is there any way to get his attention and suggest he tone down the egregious newsfiltering? He's the worst of the bunch, and probably the most prolific. We like him. We like old people. Yes. But how about some dialogue with this redoubtable fellow?
posted by scarabic at 11:08 PM on July 21, 2004


I'd like Matt to just do this: automatically delete any posts that are nothing but one or a few words and a link to a national news story at a national media site...excepting really major events, which Matt has repeatedly stated are worthy to post because of the desire to discuss them. That seems like something the majority of us could agree upon as a standard.

And people that continually post stuff that Matt deletes should get a timeout or permanent ban. But that's really what he is already doing, anyway. Matt does notice and punish people he's had to repeatedly clean up after.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:32 PM on July 21, 2004


That seems like something the majority of us could agree upon as a standard.

You'd think. But then user X would pipe up and say "I thought that news item was interesting," and user Y would chime in and say "that news item is of great importance to the fate of our world," and user number 15-thousand something would duck in to say "I don't understand - isn't news posted on MetaFilter all the time?"

Does anyone else wonder if the reason this issue remains perpetually unresolved is that Matt's deletion policy on it is totally inconsistent?
posted by scarabic at 11:52 PM on July 21, 2004


"But Postroad behaves like a Yahoo News spambot that's acquired a MeFi account password and randomly posts news items with keyword "Bush" on a 48-hour interval."

hallelujah brother. say it aloud.

frankly, I don't care if Matt bans him or not, I just don't find Posty interesting enough to care. he is hardly, say, rodii.
and anyway Matt didn't ban him back when Posty was posting a shitty Middle East fpp a day, so I don't think he'll ban him now. I don't care much for Posty's fpps because it's stuff i've already seen elsewhere, his contribution is usually smattering of bad spelling and crazy syntax. and he posts too much on the front page. and he certainly knows how to troll, when he feels like it -- just check out how many of his posts were deleted by Matt in the past.

and excuse me karl, but I don't buy the "he's old, let's respect that" thing. if his posts suck ass, they suck ass. I don't care whether he's in fifth grade or he's 112 years old. and I humbly submit that assholes don't get less assholish as they get older. just the opposite, actually.
posted by matteo at 11:55 PM on July 21, 2004


Not that it's about being an asshole or not being an asshole. But I do think it's a little patronizing to be so thrilled that a geriatric uses the internet at all that we completely disregard the quality of his behavior here. I think the word for that is 'coddling,' hardly one that belies respect or love.

I don't really hold my breath to see what Matt will or will not do. Clearly, he only sticks his finger into the dike once the water reaches his nipples. But he gave us this handy place to express our policy opinions, so here I go (again).
posted by scarabic at 12:03 AM on July 22, 2004


I don't suppose y'all could, y'know, see that it's an FPP from Postroad and just not read it or respond to it, eh? Perhaps if Postie's posts were ignored, he'd try harder to create worthwhile posts, mais non?
posted by five fresh fish at 12:35 AM on July 22, 2004


Oh Jesus. It's the same-old "just ignore it" argument, as if a site could possibly have a distinctive character without having some norms, policy, or at the very least, an active dialogue about same. If you think something's worth having around, argue its merits, don't just tell me I should take on the burden of filtering out the noise as I read.

Besides, until something changes, what do you think I'm doing? I'm dealing with it. Do I need to bury the subject in the Grey, too? If you don't want to have a discussion about newsfiltering, can't you, y'know, just ignore it?
posted by scarabic at 12:46 AM on July 22, 2004


Oh, don't ban postroad, he's become part of the general environment. MeFi is'nt run by a set of hard and fast rules, it's run on feel. Some people get away with things others could never get away with(like quonsar,) but we keep them around because they lend a certain amount of personality to the site. To ban postroad would be to overly sanitize things and make MeFi into a uninteresting middle of the road community weblog that would, in the end, be kind of boring. While on one hand having people like postroad around may seem disruptive, it really provides a focus that other users can use to understand their own approach to the site and its content. While this may be unfair (postroad posts newsfilter - why can't I) it's a reflection on life and if the internet is going to mean anything it should not limit experience, but show the diversity of experience that makes life interesting. The other day I commented that people need to cut out the soap-opera, but perhaps the soap-opera is natural. Without hard and fast rules there are many things that happen here that don't make sense, but they should be allowed to not make sense - that's life I guess.

So, I'm not saying get over it, it's just a website, but MeFi is interesting because it is a reflection on life and different people's approach to politics, philosophy and communication.

For full discloser I've basically drank a bottle of pic st loup to my head and y'all are free to disregard this post if its overly nonsensical.
posted by elwoodwiles at 1:05 AM on July 22, 2004


I like Posty. He sent me an email once† when I was a bumbling newbie.




† I generally hate getting email. It's the thought that counts, though.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:01 AM on July 22, 2004


Oh, don't ban postroad, he's become part of the general environment. MeFi is'nt run by a set of hard and fast rules

Well, as long as we're all clear on the fact that we have no princples, but decide policy based on popularity contest: OK. This takes me all the way back to junior high.

To ban postroad would be to overly sanitize things

It's nothing personal, but whether you disagree with the rabid newsfiltering, or the uselessness of I/P posts, the divisiveness of Bush-is-bad posts, or just hate the infighting and arguing that's taken over Mefi, everybody's got a reason to complain to Postroad. Why people are reluctant to bring those oft-lamented conditions home to roost on his doorstep is beyond me. I guess people are reluctant to challenge anyone who seems to be an entrenched community figure.

Instead of getting caught up in a popularity contest based on personality, it would be nice if we could address Postroad's style here, with a conversation. But he makes this impossible, and that's pretty dysfunctional. I'll talk about more or less anything, but combine someone who just won't talk with a moderator who's super-reluctant to ban, and you get the slow downward spiral into Yahoo News that we're experiencing here.
posted by scarabic at 3:02 AM on July 22, 2004


the divisiveness of Bush-is-bad posts,

Ironically I think these posts unite the most people :)
posted by Space Coyote at 5:15 AM on July 22, 2004


Quit whining and start posting. There's only a handful of posts a day, sometimes a few of them are newsfilter posts. If the people tired of newsfilter posts posted an interesting post as soon as one appeared then you'd be proactively changing MetaFilter for the better without calling on Matt to censor anything.
posted by substrate at 5:26 AM on July 22, 2004


substrate, the problem is we are outnumbered. The world is full of Newsfilter, but web gems don't pop up every second. Believe me, if I find something worthy, I grab it and drag it here by the scruff of the neck.
posted by konolia at 5:42 AM on July 22, 2004


The whitehouse is getting incredibly stale, people.
the republican party used to be an addiction for me, but lately with more and more lies, and boring lies at that, can we really say we are the best of the Western world anymore? Final straw was the posting of that Bush daughter photo.
Is this really what we want america to be?
posted by sgt.serenity at 5:56 AM on July 22, 2004


That Postroad is old, the more the pity, his white hairs do witness it; but that he is, a whoremaster, saving your reverences, that I utterly deny. If sack and sugar be a fault, God help the wicked! If to be old and merry be a sin, then many an old host that I know is damned: if to be fat is to be hated, then meth junkies are to be loved.

No, my good Mefites; banish Paris Paramus, banish David Dark, banish hama7: but for sweet Postroad, kind Postroad, true Postroad, valiant Postroad, and therefore more valiant, being, as he is, old Postroad, banish not him thy Metafilter's company, banish not him the blue's company: banish plump Postroad, and banish all the world!
posted by octobersurprise at 6:07 AM on July 22, 2004


Precisely what I wanted to say, octobersurprise, but more elegantly done.

*golf clap*
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 6:09 AM on July 22, 2004


I'm traveling for business all week and not really touching the site, so basically if things seem stinkier than usual, it's probably because I'm not around to delete the dumb stuff.

You remember what happened last time? That's right, we made pancakes.
posted by dmt at 6:11 AM on July 22, 2004


substrate, the problem is we are outnumbered.

inventory of weapons not newsfilter.

guy building stonehenge not newsfilter.

linspire flash tihng not newsfilter.

rogue wave not newsfilter.

cuddle parties not newsfilter

Eunoia not newsfilter.

Are we reading the same metafilterr? Because if you're getting more news than me I wanna see.
posted by Space Coyote at 6:16 AM on July 22, 2004


O! It's about PostroadFilter...

I forgot he had the monopoly. It's renewal time is it? Well, newsfilter never seemed so easy to fix!
posted by dash_slot- at 6:40 AM on July 22, 2004


...banish plump Postroad, and banish all the world!

I do, I am.

 


Oh, wait, I'm not Henry IVMatt. (But you can call me "Hal".) Seriously, though, I knew Falstaff, and Postroad is no Falstaff. I think we all know who plays the role of Falstaff here at MeFi.

Does this mean that octobersurprise is Postroad?
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 7:14 AM on July 22, 2004


the slow downward spiral : A euphemism for The sky is falling. The sky is falling.

I have read Metafilter since mid-2000 and I do not have a clue what the controversy over Postroad is beyond his getting dragged into MeTalk often. I guess his FPP's are so nonconsequential (boring) that they do not even register.

Why do people have a problem with diversity?
posted by mischief at 7:51 AM on July 22, 2004


I'd hate newsfilter too if it was all bad news about my crooked candidate.

meanwhile, mefi continues a good thing that I like to visit everyday.
posted by mcsweetie at 7:56 AM on July 22, 2004


don't just tell me I should take on the burden of filtering out the noise as I read.

But that is precisely what you should do, yanno. Mathowie has long since expressed his unwillingness to do it for you on a regular and consistent basis, and therefore your only alternative is to leave it undone and whine constantly that it isn't getting done, which is quite unbecoming.

Trying to reach and uphold some community standards is one thing; constantly harping on things which will never change and which are beyond the ability of anyone listening to you to change is simply futile. And obnoxious.
posted by rushmc at 8:09 AM on July 22, 2004


"Why do people have a problem with diversity?"

A link to a picture of Bush's daughter sticking her tongue out, with no story to go with it, is hardly what we think of as diversity. A 100 comment call-out on such a post, where we have an informal vote on whether the user should be banned, is just our gentle way of saying, "Please do better good sir."

We aren't very good at saying, "Please do better." And other than the 20 or so people who keep this place honest with good links, we aren't very good at doing better either. More than anything else, MetaTalk is just a pressure valve that keeps us from going after coworkers with an ax, ramming into drivers who talk on cell phones, or sending death threats to public officials.

Thank you MetaTalk for keeping us out of jail. Without you we'd go crazy.
posted by y6y6y6 at 8:33 AM on July 22, 2004


whine constantly that it isn't getting done, which is quite unbecoming.

Whining about mathowie's administration of this site over several years' worth of MeTa threads is pretty unbecoming, too. And obnoxious.
posted by dhoyt at 9:04 AM on July 22, 2004


postroad?
postroad?
postroad?
postroad?
postroad?
powstrowd?
posted by Shane at 9:16 AM on July 22, 2004


Why do people have a problem with diversity?

Well, it just kinda goes along with hating freedom :)
posted by scarabic at 9:17 AM on July 22, 2004


Why do people have a problem with diversity?
posted by mischief at 7:51 AM PST on July 22


The sheer extent to which this place has become a daily axe-grinding echo-chamber makes mischief's comment the most ironically stupid thing said in this thread. Congrats, have a cookie.

banish Paris Paramus, banish David Dark, banish hama7
posted by octobersurprise at 6:07 AM PST on July 22


Why do people have a problem with diversity?
posted by mischief at 7:51 AM PST on July 22


Metafilter: a bunch of people of different ages, locations, nationalities and races who all agree with me.
posted by Seth at 9:37 AM on July 22, 2004


A 100 comment call-out on such a post,
Thought this thread was posted with more, not just that one post.
posted by thomcatspike at 9:42 AM on July 22, 2004


Seth, given that october was riffing on Shakespeare, I'm not sure you can assume that everything he/she wrote was earnest. Specifically, urging that the aforementioned trio be banned.

Anyway, mischief et al, diversity is good. That's why I think there should be more inline images of heterosexual cumshots on the blue. And farkesque photoshops. Weather forecasts. Funny cat photos. Links to war3z ftp archives. Also, random bible verse, babelfish translations of old screenplays, much more central Arkansas local political news, a word of the day, sports trivia, and your mama's fat ass. Because diversity is good. Why oh why do people hate diversity so? Poor, poor diversity. Trodden upon by the jackbooted feet of the relentlessly rigid, diversity needs a hug. Come here, diversity. We ♥ you, diversity. We ♥ you so, so very much, diversity.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 9:56 AM on July 22, 2004


When can postroad post again? I'm still waiting for a summing up of the 9/11 commission's report.
posted by amberglow at 10:02 AM on July 22, 2004


EB, we are all proud of you for catching the obvious Shakespeare allusion. How many times are you going to point it out that "you got it!" Until we give you a cookie, too?

I'm certain that octobersuprise was sincere in his naming of those guys, and I am sure that mischief would want them gone, too. So I don't find your latest post to be a particularly deconstructive response to my point.
posted by Seth at 10:04 AM on July 22, 2004


Man, you're bitchy. I thought maybe you didn't recognize the allusion and so you took octobersurprise too seriously. I suppose I should just have assumed that you would take anything and everything too seriously, regardless.

If I had written that parody, those would have been the people I would have chosen, although probably just to be consipicuously non-partisan I would have hunted for a leftwing person I thought belonged in that list. But I'm not certain it was intended seriously; I think the joke is that they are the usual suspects and surely must be worse than beloved Postroad.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 10:13 AM on July 22, 2004


[gives EB a *special* cookie]
posted by scarabic at 10:14 AM on July 22, 2004


I'm not Henry IV

Wasn't it Henry V: The Wakening, or has Kenneth Branaugh done me brown?
posted by yerfatma at 10:15 AM on July 22, 2004


GodDAMN I'm sick of Seth's bitching. Dude, see a shrink. You've got some hardcore OCD. You hate the site, and yet you continue to linger--never contributing anything constructive, just harping on the same non-issue ad infinitum. You're like one of those sick fetish guys who get off by sticking screwdrivers up their dick. No wonder you're unhappy: YOU'VE GOT A SCREWDRIVER IN YOUR DICK! Go hang out somewhere else if this place sucks so bad. Let it go.
posted by jpoulos at 10:20 AM on July 22, 2004


jpoulos, is there where I get to tell you that if you don't like, you should skip it?
posted by Seth at 10:25 AM on July 22, 2004


The sheer extent to which this place has become a daily axe-grinding echo-chamber makes mischief's comment the most ironically stupid thing said in this thread. Congrats, have a cookie.

Pot, thine sultry kettle awaits thine firm grasp and steamy touch.
posted by The God Complex at 10:26 AM on July 22, 2004


Huh? You people try to do the whole turnabout thing too much. Care to explain how what I say occurs (a) daily and (b) creates an echo chamber?
posted by Seth at 10:32 AM on July 22, 2004


MetaFilter: A screwdriver in your dick, a bucket of cocks, and a cookie.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:33 AM on July 22, 2004


dmt: Thanks for linking to the Bondcliff callout. His original cheeky Get Your War On thread was one of my favorite moments of my early days as a lurker, and I'm sorry it's gone. "These cartoons are so fresh and new. There's no way they were posted before." Heh!

How did all this talk about banning Postroad get started, anyway? Jeez, we must be bored and restless. I'm going out to get some air. Anybody want a snack food?
posted by languagehat at 10:39 AM on July 22, 2004


Huh? You people try to do the whole turnabout thing too much. Care to explain how what I say occurs (a) daily and (b) creates an echo chamber?

Check your posting history. I'd say it occurs 90% of the time, if not more, which is what makes your constant harping about agendas so funny.
posted by The God Complex at 10:42 AM on July 22, 2004


TGC, check posts over time. You will see it is far from daily. Furthermore, you failed to show how it creates an echo-chamber. and it surely doesn't occur on the blue

So, in other words, it was a pathetic attempt to turn something around on me. If you want to dispute my critique, then bring something to the table next time.
posted by Seth at 10:46 AM on July 22, 2004


Holy crap, I cannot scrub that screwdriver-in-the-dick imagery from mind. I'd finally gotten rid of that "dead baby hanging from a nail by his eyelid" imagery, and now this.

BTW: judging by a handful of comments, some of you think I was implying that postroad should be coddled because of his age. It's hard to believe that this needs to be explained, but that entire top-ten list was a JOKE.
posted by dhoyt at 11:00 AM on July 22, 2004


You adequately create the echo-chamber on your own when you squawk like a parrot every time you open your mouth, letting loose the same verbal barrage as the time before and the time before that. If you can't see the irony of grinding the axe of your own agenda every chance you get, I don't know what to say. Not to mention your over-wrought use of the word agenda, which has taken on the epic proportions of a talking points memo in regards to metafilter.

I know it's not "daily", but it's 90% of the time you say anything, anywhere, and probably 100% of the time you say anything in metatalk. If it was daily I'd probably hang myself with marine rope.

Your suggestion that it doesn't occur on the blue is spurious at best. There have been recent examples of you hijacking threads in the blue to fight your little war with various members of posting histories.

I don't think my attempt was all that pathetic, really. Every time you open your mouth the irony runs down your face like corn syrup. As for your dispute, it's been critiqued a hundred times in a hundred different threads--that's what makes is so intolerably boring and what makes your constant hijacking of threads in order to discuss so downright awful. Maybe next time? ;)
posted by The God Complex at 11:07 AM on July 22, 2004


How did all this talk about banning Postroad get started, anyway?

I think I called for it, though without malice, and with a pretty good understanding now that it's not gonna happen. octobersurprise pretty much won me over (shut me up, whichever) at last.

TGC, check posts over time.

Yeah, TGC - it's every *other* day, man! Showed you!
posted by scarabic at 11:08 AM on July 22, 2004


grumblePOINTLESSBICKERINGgrumbleSTOP!

IF YOU ALL DON'T STOP BICKERING I'M GOING TO POST THE PHOTO I JUST FOUND!

Screwdriver. And anatomy.

That's right. And you know you'd have to look.
posted by Shane at 11:37 AM on July 22, 2004


Just to be clear here, it's not my anatomy...
posted by Shane at 11:40 AM on July 22, 2004


I'm certain that octobersuprise was sincere

No, it's just, well, see Postroad is, like old and stuff and he likes teh titties and Falstaff was like ....

Ah, hell. It ain't funny if you gotta explain it.

*swats Seth with a rolled up Seven Types of Ambiguity and ruffles his hair.*
posted by octobersurprise at 11:43 AM on July 22, 2004


shane, go screw yourself.
posted by jonmc at 11:47 AM on July 22, 2004


shane, go screw yourself.

No way! Looks painful.

NSFW.
posted by Shane at 12:10 PM on July 22, 2004


If by "NSFW" you mean "Makes your dick shrivel itself inside-out," then yes, that is most definitely NSFW.
posted by scarabic at 12:24 PM on July 22, 2004


Screwdriver. And anatomy.

Long term effects not shown to be *worse* than regularly consuming a doughnut *drink*. Possibly.
posted by asok at 12:37 PM on July 22, 2004


Not good for the Hank Hills amongst us. Or anyone else, really.
posted by asok at 12:42 PM on July 22, 2004


Long term effects not shown to be *worse* than regularly consuming a doughnut *drink*.

I'm trying a doughnut drink after work. One of youse can stick a Phillips head in the ol' Love Hammer.

We'll compare notes.
posted by jonmc at 12:54 PM on July 22, 2004


TGC, check posts over time. You will see it is far from daily.

The same is true for my posts, poopsie. Sauce for the goose and all that.
posted by y2karl at 2:05 PM on July 22, 2004


Jeez, we must be bored and restless.

Happens every summer, I'm tellin' ya. I think we all need a cuddle party in a nice air conditioned hotel suite somewhere, followed by a nice let's all beat the shit out of each other party somewhere hot and humid. Like my condo.
posted by WolfDaddy at 2:41 PM on July 22, 2004


Shane, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame. . . .
posted by caddis at 3:14 PM on July 22, 2004


*late to the lynching party again*

So ... fucking ... what? Poastroad made a sub-standard but enjoyable post. The Prexnit's doter made a rude gesture showing her privalage and disdain for the rest of us pleebs, and konolia wants to make an issue of it?

Skip it. Skip the friddly fucxking skip it. Skip skip skippity fucking skip it.

I like Postroad's offerings. The man has an eye for the female form, and he tends to find things both fun and significant. That he posts them here speaks to his clueless bravery. Sorry, I can't find much fault with that. Newsfilter? So what? He posted a link showing an overprivelaged brat being ... a brat. If it didn't conflict with the poster of this thread's ideology, this wouldn't probably have made it here.

Of course, I'd never support a candidate that called one of his secret security men a son-of-a-bitch, or any candidate that told a US senator to go fuck himself. So how much can I really know?

This thread is just one more in a long line of BS Bush supporting attempts to make the rest of us anti-'Murcan assholes feel ashamed that the white house has become a joke. The post in question wasn't the best of the web ... very little posted to the blue is anymore. But make no mistake, this MeTa callout is just one more crappy "don't have fun at the expense of the authorities" crap fest. Postroad profers the good and the bad of newsfilter stuffage. Deal. Don't like him picking on the Preznit's daughter? Too fricken bad. She stuck her tongue out; she can lick me.
posted by Wulfgar! at 3:20 PM on July 22, 2004


boy, i was at work and didn't want to click on Shane's link there, but it's the wrong thing..i thought jpoulos was talking about "founding" (can't find a link for it)--sticking stuff inside the pee slit. (i knew someone that was into it ages ago)

and on preview: what Wulfgar said so well. Post is far more harmless than some i could mention, including me.
posted by amberglow at 3:26 PM on July 22, 2004


oops...it's "sounding", not founding...sorry.
posted by amberglow at 3:31 PM on July 22, 2004


The apology should be for the link, I imagine, and not for the name confusion.

It's getting so that one shouldn't click links around here.
posted by five fresh fish at 3:57 PM on July 22, 2004


It's only text, and from a published column in whatever the Eye is (i'm assuming a weekly alt newspaper). And i explained what it was beforehand too.
posted by amberglow at 4:07 PM on July 22, 2004


Geez, Wulfgar! Next time you show up this late and have that little to add, take yerself a nice break from the shitfest you so obviously feel you're above.

If I'm snippy, it's because I don't like the implication that I'm supporting Bush by opposing the rampant newsfucking that goes on here.
posted by scarabic at 4:45 PM on July 22, 2004


tell them about the guy that injects saline solution into his balls amber.......
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:57 PM on July 22, 2004


The doughnut drink was rather disappointing. Only the aftertaste was remotely doughnutesque. Otherwise it was an oversweetened milkshake. Much sadness. So I chased it with 2 champion dogs and a couple of Bass Ales.

How'd the penis carpentry work out?
posted by jonmc at 5:03 PM on July 22, 2004


tell them about the guy that injects saline solution into his balls amber.......
nah, i'm saving that for a FPP ; >

aw, jon, that sucks.
posted by amberglow at 5:12 PM on July 22, 2004


scarabic, smack down on newsfilter all you wish, and you'll find I don't tend to disagree. If you read what I wrote, i'm positing that this wasn't a newsfilter callout half as much as it was a whine that someone posted a humor piece concerning the preznit's spawn. God forbid we ought have a laugh at those who really do seem to think themselves above us.

take yerself a nice break from the shitfest you so obviously feel you're above.

Above this? Comment your evidence, cupcake. What the hell did I write that brought that on? As I indicated, I actually enjoy your so-called "shit fest", and feel it thoroughly appropriate here. What I find myself "above" is the bullshit whining from those with an agenda ... who won't support said agenda ... but would rather attempt to make those who don't agree feel bad for disagreeing with the agenda ... as if they could.

You don't want me to think that you support Bush? (I really never ever did ...) Then don't support the suppositions of those who proclaim a moral rightiousness when, quite in fact, all they are doing is attempting to silence those who don't agree with their pro-Bush caterwahling. You don't like the newsfilter ... I get it. But don't support konolia's partisan whining when the post isn't newsfilter, but rather humorfilter. That was what Posty put on the blue. If you think it polifilter/newsfilter then it says much more about you than it does about me.

And don't say I didn't add anything, when by your very response, you prove that I did. That's just lame ...
posted by Wulfgar! at 5:28 PM on July 22, 2004


Wulfgar, I would have posted if it had been a picture of Kerry's daughter in a seethru formal. The point was-and was ALONE-that ONE picture did not a GOOD FRONT PAGE POST MAKE. I can't imagine that very many Yahoo newspictures would be.

I really don't appreciate my motives being overanalized. If there were a political (or religious) side to my complaint I would have voiced it.

Yes, I AM pms-ing. Thanks for noticing.
posted by konolia at 5:44 PM on July 22, 2004


overanalized ?
posted by sgt.serenity at 5:55 PM on July 22, 2004


konolia, no, it wasn't a good FFP. As I said ... So What? I'm not over analizing anything. Many not-very-good posts make it to the blue every - fricking - day. So what? This one struck you as over the top, and I question (with all assumptions pointing "right") as to why. Postroad's contribution was actually funny ... in a cynical kinda way. Why post this to MeTa as a sure sign of the death of MetaFilter unless this struck you as wrong in a deeply offensive manner?

It was humor. That's all it was. Best of the web? Probably not. Different from the bajilions of meaningless and trite artsy photog links from hamatroll? Nope. Different from the quathousandly links of flashy snoorness from crunchland? Uhhh ... Uhn-uhn. It was nothing, except the rich being the pompous and arrogant and upity rich. But this one got your panties in a bunch. Now why, except for a partisan leaning, would that be?

Overanalysized? Please. This MeTa call was as obvious as the day is long.
posted by Wulfgar! at 6:20 PM on July 22, 2004


It got my "panties in a bunch" because it really was the final straw in a period of time that I was realizing that this place was getting boring to me. As to the Bush connection, oh PLEASE. I know perfectly well most of you are hopeless liberals, and I expect no better.
posted by konolia at 6:27 PM on July 22, 2004


Yes, I AM pms-ing. Thanks for noticing.

*passes konolia the 12 pack of raspberry filled krispy kremes*

overanalized ?

awesome typo, too bad it wasn't made in one of our gay marriage threads :-D

Overanalysized?

we've been goatse'd...!

everybody shut up and go outside... take a nice evening stroll.
posted by t r a c y at 6:29 PM on July 22, 2004


t r a c y, and konolia, I'm going up to the graveyard. Good times



much better than seem to exist around here anymore ...
posted by Wulfgar! at 6:37 PM on July 22, 2004


i thought jpoulos was talking about "sounding"

Eh, he was, amberglow, but I didn't know it was called that and couldn't find any pics. Best I could do ;-)

Um, anyone who wants pics and isn't feint of heart, Google "sounding penis" yourself.

Wulfgar, I would have posted if it had been a picture of Kerry's daughter in a seethru formal.

I think you should look for that on postroad's site.
posted by Shane at 6:43 PM on July 22, 2004


I don't know about the rest of them, konnie, but I am a hopeful liberal. (Must be recovering from the depression I was suffering when I though Bush would screw things up even worse than he has...)

And yes, as I noted in the other MeTa thread, today has been a pretty good day on the 'Filter, and even this thread was getting better when it started obsessing with screwdrivers and penises. (And, until I saw the frightening picture, I had assumed it would be inserted straight into the tip; I mean, that is why the hole there is shaped like that, right? I wonder if any MeFites have Phillips penises).

I am so gonna regret hitting "Post"
posted by wendell at 6:50 PM on July 22, 2004


(And, until I saw the frightening picture, I had assumed it would be inserted straight into the tip; I mean, that is why the hole there is shaped like that, right? I wonder if any MeFites have Phillips penises).

Okay. No choice: N. S. F. W!

I'm tellin' ya, it's Goatse-caliber. Don't click it.
posted by Shane at 6:58 PM on July 22, 2004


there ya go!!! that's it : >
posted by amberglow at 7:19 PM on July 22, 2004


this wasn't a newsfilter callout half as much as it was a whine that someone posted a humor piece concerning the preznit's spawn.

Well, this thread may have listed overwhelmingly toward discussion of the Jenna Bush photo (which I confess I did enjoy seeing) but the way the MeTa callout was phrased, the Jenna thing was just the "final straw," in a broad phenomenon, not the whole enchilada. So I guess I disagreed with the way you seemed to characterize the entirety of this conversation based on the validity of the Jenna Bush photo.

For myself, I'm in it for the "boring Newsfilter" angle moreso than bad-Jenna-post angle.

Seriously, though, if you want to say stuff that's already been said 20 times in the thread before you showed up, then okay, but if those things you want to repeat concentrate on the tiresomeness of the MeTa thread itself, then you're just perpetuating something you claim to deplore, and are left floundering on the rocks of auto-contradiction.

In all likelihood, we should both just shut up. I know you're an Angel. And if I ever had a point, it's long since been drowned in unrelenting seas.

I raise what I'm drinking to you, Wulfgar!

(once again thankful for the perpetual license to direct exclamations at you)
posted by scarabic at 7:26 PM on July 22, 2004


scarabic, may the winds fill your sails, and always tease at your back ...
posted by Wulfgar! at 7:45 PM on July 22, 2004


I was realizing that this place was getting boring to me.

You keep saying this, like it's our duty to entertain you or something...seems to me that a better response to being bored is to move on to something of greater interest, not to chastise and complain.
posted by rushmc at 7:51 PM on July 22, 2004


You're still Bunnyfire and you always will be.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:05 PM on July 22, 2004


At this point I have to acknowledge that konolia and I disagree completely about politics, but we agree completely about newsfucking. She seems to tire of it because of its unswerving anti-Bush tone, and I tend to tire of it because of the sheer ridiculity of coming the MetaFilter to find Yahoo News links. But we're both tired of it.

I won't tell you it's your duty to entertain me, rushmc, but clearly, the challenge to post interesting, distinctive, enlivening links is totally fucking on. Where have you been the past 5 years?
posted by scarabic at 8:08 PM on July 22, 2004


PST: that's inaccurate. She's still Connie, and always will be. The tone [if I may presume] of your comment is ungracious, and ill befitting of a southern gentleman.
posted by dash_slot- at 8:11 PM on July 22, 2004


My intense love of cheese grits is the only thing Southern about me. Unless you're Canadian.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 8:23 PM on July 22, 2004


I just realized this callout was about Jenna sticking out her tongue. Damn!

;-P

(Sidenote: Some of you need to get your sarcasm meters calibrated.)
posted by mischief at 8:26 PM on July 22, 2004


I really don't appreciate my motives being overanalized.

Overanalized ? I can think of no better forum for that than this.

By the way--

It was nothing, except the rich being the pompous and arrogant and uppity rich. But this one got your panties in a bunch. Now why, except for a partisan leaning, would that be?

--here's no over to that at all: it's dead on target. This was a silly, pointless post.
posted by y2karl at 9:02 PM on July 22, 2004


Er, I have to agree that the bushdotter pic was silly but hey, better seeing that than a bunch of dicks with screwdrivers stuck in them at any angle, eh? I suppose we'll be treated to a link of a bucket o' cocks with screwdrivers in each of 'em next. But please, don't feel obliged, anyone. No, really, don't bother....
posted by Lynsey at 9:04 PM on July 22, 2004


OT

Wasn't it Henry V: The Wakening, or has Kenneth Branaugh done me brown?

Yeah, he did. He included some Falstaff stuff from Henry IV as a flashback in Henry V. Still kicks Olivier's ass though.


/OT
posted by CunningLinguist at 9:22 PM on July 22, 2004


You're still Bunnyfire and you always will be.

*adds some fresh picked carrots to connie's share of my krispy kremes*

you all suck, in a way that's not even remotely pleasurable.
posted by t r a c y at 9:49 PM on July 22, 2004


She's not bunnyfire anymore; she replaced one form of mental illness with another and molted into konolia.
posted by interrobang at 10:14 PM on July 22, 2004


From amberglow's link: "Northbound also offers a helpful leaflet with their goods, and get this: they have sounds that vibrate."

Perfect.
posted by homunculus at 10:14 PM on July 22, 2004


Jenna and goatse and sounding, oh my. This thread sounds like a photoshop contest waiting to happen.
posted by homunculus at 10:17 PM on July 22, 2004


I won't tell you it's your duty to entertain me, rushmc, but clearly, the challenge to post interesting, distinctive, enlivening links is totally fucking on.

And bravo, as always, to those who take up the call! But not to those who decide that the efforts are, of a sudden, no longer up to snuff and feel the need to *yawn* in our faces.
posted by rushmc at 11:25 PM on July 22, 2004


"It got my 'panties in a bunch' because it really was the final straw in a period of time that I was realizing that this place was getting boring to me."

then don't read it. Allah knows I skip most of your posts because they are undescribably boring to me (nothing personal, of course). don't like it? skip it. skip ther whole site, if it bores you.
or try to put some interesting content in the site, for a change.

and frankly, even if this site allegedly bores you so much, you use it a lot to share with all of us your self-described, PMS-induced episodes (and other chemical imbalances as well). so it's not 100% for you, I'd say
posted by matteo at 2:54 AM on July 23, 2004


I'm with t r a c y: y'all are making me a little sick to my stomach.

I think often about a comment konolia made a couple months ago—that MeFi is heartless, it would eat its young. It's really true.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 3:08 AM on July 23, 2004


MeFi isn't heartless; it's a soap opera and everyone plays a role. Some roll over and play the happy victim while others play the gleeful victimizers.

No one takes this site seriously, every post and comment is a big sham, and anyone who does think this is real should immediately click their heels and say "Home Home Home". ;-P
posted by mischief at 3:44 AM on July 23, 2004


Well, pardon me for thinking that this site was here in order to post interesting links that others may have missed. Pardon me for thinking that Madamjujujive, not Postroad, should be the standard to live up to.

I didn't post this to pick on Postroad, or to whine because it was a Bush kid in the pic-who cares?-I posted this because because I do care about this site. Like a lot of you I have spent a considerable amount of time here over several years. I do try to make interesting front page posts when I find them-but as I stated before, I don't find them every day.

As an aside, the personal attacks don't even bother me anymore (maybe it's the donuts? Thanks, t r a c y) but come on-what do they have to do with the point that quality front page posts do matter? Whether you love me, hate me, or yawn in my face-it is not germaine to the point at hand.
posted by konolia at 3:55 AM on July 23, 2004


You're still Bunnyfire and you always will be.

I'd be Bunnyfire right now if Matt would let me have that account back. So?
posted by konolia at 3:58 AM on July 23, 2004


Leave Connie alone or I'll come over there and kick your ass, son. [/swagger]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:12 AM on July 23, 2004


aye , be nice to the lassie or i'll rattle yir jaw fur ye fannybaws. [/swagger]
posted by sgt.serenity at 4:34 AM on July 23, 2004


Yup. And, I'll, I'll do something ouchy you really won't like. [/girlyswagger]
posted by taz at 4:45 AM on July 23, 2004


Listen, all. I love you guys and zod knows I'm not konolia's biggest fan, but personal insults about each other's mental illnesses are way out of bounds. Let's keep it at least a wee bit civil.
posted by jpoulos at 4:58 AM on July 23, 2004


[/rational swagger]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:06 AM on July 23, 2004


Thank you, CunningLinguist for not hanging this thief.
posted by yerfatma at 5:20 AM on July 23, 2004


a comment konolia made a couple months ago—that MeFi is heartless, it would eat its young. It's really true.

no, it isn't. you see, because MeFi is a web site. web sites, which indeed lack blood pumping muscle mass, also exhibit an acute dearth of offspring. the absence of young precludes the consumption thereof, regardless of the level of sophist windbaggery extant.


and mischief, you rock!
posted by quonsar at 5:44 AM on July 23, 2004


You'd be singing a different song if they'd said 'Metafilter eats its old', you geriatric bastard, you. [/blogger]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 5:47 AM on July 23, 2004


No one takes this site seriously, every post and comment is a big sham,

Indeed, IIRC, we are all just AI bots running in a lab at Carnegie Mellon.
posted by jpoulos at 6:21 AM on July 23, 2004


I suppose we'll be treated to a link of a bucket o' cocks with screwdrivers in each of 'em next. But please, don't feel obliged, anyone. No, really, don't bother....

Mmm, I give up. That just doesn't sound like what Photoshop was meant for. Just ain't right ;-)

Jenna and goatse and sounding, oh my. This thread sounds like a photoshop contest waiting to happen.

Jenna doesn't hardly need photoshopping ;-)
posted by Shane at 6:58 AM on July 23, 2004


Like sands through the hourglass, so are the Threads Of Our Lives.
posted by chicobangs at 7:10 AM on July 23, 2004


if they'd said 'Metafilter eats its old',

quonsar strikes me as being inedible. we'd have to boil him for, like, forever
posted by matteo at 7:17 AM on July 23, 2004


Chico, I didn't want to tell you this right now, just hours before you marry the rich and beautiful Lulabelle Sprockett, but......I'm having your baby.
posted by CunningLinguist at 7:17 AM on July 23, 2004


better stale pancakes than none at all. just toast them.

now if they were moldy, that would be a completely different problem.
posted by casarkos at 7:56 AM on July 23, 2004


I have a proposition: anyone who starts a metatalk thread about "the direction metafilter is moving" or "the rise of newsfilter" should have their internet access taken away.

we're sorry that bush is so awful. but metafilter is still awesome. so, zip it.
posted by mcsweetie at 8:24 AM on July 23, 2004


seconded. they do make mutes for asstrumpets, don't they?
posted by trondant at 9:31 AM on July 23, 2004


Reposted to the correct thread:

Konolia will always bear the bunnyfire stigma, and it is right that she should do so. Actions and choices have consequences, and we all carry our past with us. But she is also the persona that she has revealed under the konolia nick. It is up to each reader to decide for himself whether the latter provides sufficient reason to forgive the former.

None of which really has much bearing on the validity of her complaint here, which in a nutshell seems to be that Metafilter now bores here and doesn't live up to her standards of what she feels it should be. Others have made the same complaint; yet many others feel quite differently. What bothers me is the implication that her truth must be everyone's truth, that her experience must be everyone's experience, that her reality must be everyones reality, with seemingly no awareness that others might hold equally valid opinions. If one wishes a different Metafilter, certainly one can (and arguably should) try to work to bring it into being, but to simply demand that others present it to you as your due, sweeping all other perspectives aside as irrelevant, strikes me as exceedingly arrogant, and it annoys me.

I applaud your desire for a better Metafilter, konolia, but I question your methods.
posted by rushmc at 9:33 AM on July 23, 2004


rush: It lacks the poignancy it obtained in the skewed context of the other thread.
posted by mischief at 10:19 AM on July 23, 2004


Rushmc, I must object to part of your admittedly wellwritten post. You speak of "the Bunnyfire stigma" and of forgiveness. Granted, I wish during that time period I had not been posting, but I am not ashamed of it either. I was ill, on wrong meds, plus a dear friend was dying. I don't need or want anyone's forgiveness for that time period. That was who I was then; "konolia" is simply how you address the person I am now.

But why any of that should have any bearing on the fact that basic and blatant newsfilter is BAD is beyond me. I am simply trying to rally the troops to go forth and post GOOD stuff and maybe stay away from Yahoo and Drudge for source material. If you must bash Bush, no problem-just find some good source material. I don't CARE.

And to all the swaggering sweeties upthread-thank you muchly. If you ever come thru this way the donuts are on me.
posted by konolia at 11:04 AM on July 23, 2004


Can someone explain to me why, in just about every fucking thread, someone takes the topic and puts the word Filter behind it?

Isn't it getting kinda old?
posted by adampsyche at 11:17 AM on July 23, 2004


bitchfilter
posted by graventy at 11:32 AM on July 23, 2004


OldFilter.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 11:59 AM on July 23, 2004


YouCanAllKissMyAssFilter.
posted by quonsar at 12:08 PM on July 23, 2004


GeFilterFish.
posted by chicobangs at 12:17 PM on July 23, 2004


bravo, as always, to those who take up the call! But not to those who decide that the efforts are, of a sudden, no longer up to snuff

Well, you're not the first person to believe that critics ought to be rounded up and fed to the crocodiles. I don't necessarily disagree with you entirely. The input of the critic is worth 1% of the input of the "artiste." But criticism still has a corrective role here, where bad posts do happen routinely, and are deleted routinely. You seems to want to cast all criticism as nose-upturned snobbery flung from the deep comfort of a reclining armchair. But what about feedback? Genuine criticism? Is it so galling to open a conversation about the character of the site's content? To question where we set the bar?

If you disagree with someone's policy proposal, then argue your own view of policy. Don't attack them for bringing up the subject at all. That isn't an act of unmitigated gall, it is, in fact what the Grey is for.
posted by scarabic at 12:32 PM on July 23, 2004


What bothers me is the implication that her truth must be everyone's truth, that her experience must be everyone's experience, that her reality must be everyones reality, with seemingly no awareness that others might hold equally valid opinions

What bothers me is the way people indignantly freak out when someone expresses their opinion. Konolia has presented us her opinion. The site is getting boring.

Rather than disagree with the assertion itself, you're just crucifying her for having the gall to say what she thinks. You suggest that if she's willing to say what she thinks, she must be demanding all of us to fall into lockstep with her. WTF? Can't you just disagree with her and leave off with the indignant outrage? You're straightjacketing her and simultaneously accusing her of not respecting other people's opinions. Boo!

How, pray tell, are we supposed to phrase our assertions of opinion so as not to imply that we are The One Truth?
posted by scarabic at 12:42 PM on July 23, 2004


I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it already, but remember the Chuck Palahniuk reading that was making audience members sick. It involved getting things stuck in one's urethra. Listen and enjoy!
posted by milovoo at 12:44 PM on July 23, 2004


Boringfilter ; >

(hey, no donuts for me, konolia?)
posted by amberglow at 1:11 PM on July 23, 2004

Can't you just disagree with her and leave off with the indignant outrage?
You've gotta be kidding. On MeTalk? heheh
posted by mischief at 1:11 PM on July 23, 2004


ouch.

Cranberry pills, anybody?
posted by matteo at 1:11 PM on July 23, 2004


(hey, no donuts for me, konolia?)

You, too can be a Swaggering Sweetie. Creamfilled or glazed?
posted by konolia at 1:37 PM on July 23, 2004


The pancakes may be stale and the donuts may have been liquified, but...

Waffles Are On Sale! (That should improve Kerry's standing in California)
posted by wendell at 1:39 PM on July 23, 2004


"How, pray tell, are we supposed to phrase our assertions of opinion so as not to imply that we are The One Truth?"

Funny you should ask. Probably a full 75% of what I write includes quite-intentional qualifiers like "it seems", "I think", and others. I use such qualifiers both for precision—I'm not sure about what is true, but I'm quite certain of my own experience—and to avoid what I'll call here (off the top of my head) "intellectual imperialism".

I've noticed that it doesn't [seem to] make a damn bit of difference. I might as well just plain assert God's Honest Truth™ like [almost] everyone else.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:02 PM on July 23, 2004


I was ill, on wrong meds, plus a dear friend was dying.

None of which changes the impact you had on the site (yes, our actions affect more than merely ourselves, and a mature sensibility has to acknowledge that). Anyway, this is not the discussion I'm trying to have.

You seems to want to cast all criticism as nose-upturned snobbery flung from the deep comfort of a reclining armchair. But what about feedback? Genuine criticism? Is it so galling to open a conversation about the character of the site's content? To question where we set the bar?

I don't see how you derive that conclusion from my noting a clear difference between "genuine criticism" and repeatedly stating that one finds the place boring. Not to blow you off, but at this point any attempts to clarify my point further are going to seem like piling-on konolia, and since that is not my intent, and since I feel that I've stated my case pretty clearly, I shall leave it at that.
posted by rushmc at 2:22 PM on July 23, 2004


None of which changes the impact you had on the site

I wasn't here back then, rushmc; what exactly was this impact? Did people quit, the server crash, mathowie check into rehab, or what?
posted by timeistight at 2:34 PM on July 23, 2004


None of which changes the impact you had on the site (yes, our actions affect more than merely ourselves, and a mature sensibility has to acknowledge that).

Ok then, can anyone other than rushmc (since he's apparently done with this, which is all well and cool) remind me how B*nnyfire impacted the site? It's still here, right? Is she responsible for the newsfilter trend? The gradual rise of bile in the comments? I mean, I've been here daily since damn near day one and I don't even really remember her flameout. No more that I remember anyone else's or any of the other people who've popped up now and again and contributed in a less than stellar manner. Was it the Metafilter equivalent of the D-day invasion? Was it that frickin' important that we still need to be bringing it up?

Christ, I love the site as much as anyone, but she didn't drown a litter of kittens or anything. Maybe we should just let some shit go.
posted by Cyrano at 2:45 PM on July 23, 2004


You, too can be a Swaggering Sweetie. Creamfilled or glazed?
creamfilled, please

but she didn't drown a litter of kittens or anything. Maybe we should just let some shit go.
She did tho! She drowned kittens and gave matt an atomic wedgie, and stuck things in people's peepees and .... of course, i was just lurking then so my memories may be a little off ; >
posted by amberglow at 3:09 PM on July 23, 2004


As Woldaddy said, most of the internet gets slow during the summer, ya'll.

As someone that has seen people I love struggle with mental illness, some of the comments in this thread bug the shit out of me.

Anyway, konolia, I have probably been a dick in the past, because I know our views don't mix well, but I will try and find something interesting to post.
posted by john at 3:53 PM on July 23, 2004


Anyway, konolia, I have probably been a dick in the past, because I know our views don't mix well, but I will try and find something interesting to post.

Have a doughnut.
posted by konolia at 4:40 PM on July 23, 2004


Rushmc, Newsfilter IS boring. This site can do much better than that. I am perplexed at why you find that so objectionable. I don't at all think I am the only one who feels that way.

By the way, those days when I apparently singlehandedly almost brought the site down, drowning millions of kittens in the process? That was back in 2002. Let it go, man.
posted by konolia at 4:47 PM on July 23, 2004


I still dispute the idea that, aside from the occasional really really dumb post, like the pic of that foul little jenna bush, that newsfilter is "outnumbering" the good posts. I usually find the normal posts outnumber the news posts by about 3:1 or 4:1. So hysteria is overblown, and people reject what may have been a legitimate complaint about one particular bad news post.
posted by Space Coyote at 5:01 PM on July 23, 2004


at this point any attempts to clarify my point further are going to seem like piling-on konolia

I rest my case. It's pretty obvious that it was a personal gripe, not a matter of principle.
posted by scarabic at 5:11 PM on July 23, 2004


MeFi isn't heartless; it's a soap opera and everyone plays a role.

MetaFilter: A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

To konolia, I would say, be the change you wish to see in the world, you know? If you want more interesting content on the front page, post it. People respond to leadership by example much more than to preaching (I've learned this personally), and realistically it's the only thing you can do to change the content. "This site can do much better than that" is a meaningless statement-- the site is its members, and you are one, so if you think it can do better, do better.
posted by nath at 5:16 PM on July 23, 2004


Two hundred plus useless comments, and this is easily more than the two hundredth time we have had this "discussion." Newsfilter is here to stay, get over it. Bunny, I love your posts and comments but tire of your anti-newsfilter rags. The only thing worse than newsfilter is anti-newfilter rags. It is time to start eating the pancakes.
posted by caddis at 6:02 PM on July 23, 2004


I might take just a bite of that donut. I hope this at least is weird enough to be worth the effort.
posted by john at 6:44 PM on July 23, 2004


Newsfilter is here to stay

Well, so's the bitching.
posted by scarabic at 7:32 PM on July 23, 2004


It was supposed to be a sampling of the best of the web and it is. The best of the web often reflects the best of humanity. But you can't ignore the other 95% of the web. People aren't perfect by necessity. And anyone would tire of a stream of unbelievably great posts.

It's in the contrast between the best and the rest that the great links truly shine. People need the rough for there to be diamonds. I would argue that a background of sub par links actually enhances the rare jewels. We can argue over what the ratio of mediocre to astonishing should be but all the while realize that the discussion is part of the process.

Just as you need links to praise you need posts to slam, newsfilter or otherwise. The commentary is part of the context and not completely separable from their target. To complain about the style of posts is to perpetuate them.

If a post sucks you've got three choices. Drop a turd in it. Make it better by contributing to the thread in positive way, or complain in MetaTalk. The choice you make says a lot about you.
posted by euphorb at 7:52 PM on July 23, 2004


Konolia will always bear the bunnyfire stigma, and it is right that she should do so.
Let me be the first to say: unbelievable.

As an gay atheist liberal, I detest much of the sanctimonious, bigotted, supernatural nonsense that konolia posts - usually, in a reactionary fashion to the pro-freedom, pro-Human Rights Campaign links posted to Mefi. But to consciously refuse to forgive and forget a pattern of behaviour stemming from a period of illness from years ago is callous and petty.

Such attitudes *from* konolia would be called as likely the result of her religion. What is it due to in a humanist?
posted by dash_slot- at 8:05 PM on July 23, 2004


And anyone would tire of a stream of unbelievably great posts.

I know of no evidence for this.

Your argument, euphorb, assumes that people experience only MeFi. In fact, we can recognize the gold here by comparison with the dross on the rest of the web (or newspapers, or...).

I do agree with your final paragraph.
posted by gleuschk at 8:15 PM on July 23, 2004


Waitaminnit, konolia was Bunnyfire?!?!?

* slaps forehead *
posted by yhbc at 8:22 PM on July 23, 2004


*pats yhbc on his pointy lil head*

Metafilter: you'll come for the news. You'll stay for the bitching.
posted by WolfDaddy at 8:29 PM on July 23, 2004


That is so true.
posted by chicobangs at 8:51 PM on July 23, 2004


It's ok. You're a nice boy, commish.
posted by jonmc at 8:53 PM on July 23, 2004


I would also appreciate a doughtnut. Sadly, I am also quite thirsty.
Hmm...it's too bad I can't satisfy both my needs with one product...

Wasn't bunnyfire the one who started making pancake comments? No, she was the first person banned! No, no, she coined the phrase GYOWFW. Wait, that's not it. She's the one who told us all to choke on a bucket of cocks!

posted by graventy at 8:54 PM on July 23, 2004


This thread is getting weird.
posted by _sirmissalot_ at 8:56 PM on July 23, 2004


then don't read it.

This has never been a good argument. Don't like the way things are now? Just ignore it! Don't try to change it for the better! And don't you get to a ballot box this November, or write letters to your congresscriters! And quit whining about the whining about NewsFilter!

MetaTalk indeed.

This thread is getting weird.

And then my shoes started to squeak.
posted by weston at 9:53 PM on July 23, 2004


I had pancakes for breakfast, blueberry with real maple syrup. What did you have?
posted by caddis at 5:08 AM on July 24, 2004


funny how we end up discussing in this very thread whether or not one should bear the weight of his/her sins
posted by matteo at 5:14 AM on July 24, 2004


You know what I find boring?

Links to blogs.

I will not, however, start a new MeTalk thread to complain about them.
posted by mischief at 8:18 AM on July 24, 2004


Graventy, the ideal solution to your dilemma would, of course, be a locally available, mass-produced, donut-flavored drink. Since this idea is laughable and completely beyond the realm of possibility, I suggest the following:

Buy a box of krispy kreme donuts.
Chop them into smallish pieces and run them through your juicer.
Take the juice and freeze it for several hours.
Chop the frozen juice up into smallish pieces and put them in your blender, set to puree.
Pour the pureed donut juice into a tall glass, and top with some caramel drizzled whipped cream, and several heaping tablespoons of white sugar.
Enjoy!
posted by iconomy at 8:49 AM on July 24, 2004



Links to blogs.


That's pretty broad, no?

Ya know what I like to read?

Books.
posted by Space Coyote at 9:30 AM on July 24, 2004


I didn't know konolia was bunnyfire either.

...

bahaha!
posted by mcsweetie at 11:05 AM on July 24, 2004


*waits for them to discover i'm son_of_minya*
posted by quonsar at 11:44 AM on July 24, 2004


I think we should all post with xml tags indicating what meds we were on when we posted, and what was the latest mental disorder we were diagnosed with.
posted by bingo at 11:44 AM on July 24, 2004


I didn't know konolia was bunnyfire either.

I guess I don't know why that's important. Whatever happened seems to have been during one of my many breaks in reading this place. It seems sad that people wish to perpetuate past actions in that it might magnify any fault that gets posted. I have done it to a few people here and am starting to realize that it might be counterproductive.

That said, complaining about what gets posted and not deleted seems like a waste of energy compared to hunting out good links to fight any sort of X-filter you dislike. I don't really have a problem skipping posts or care what impression is left as a result of certain posts. Therefore, it's not likely that I'll ever do a metatalk callout, but it doesn't mean that I will not express an opinion on the quality of any post.
posted by john at 11:45 AM on July 24, 2004


It seems sad that people wish to perpetuate past actions in that it might magnify any fault that gets posted.

I'm sorry, but could you please rephrase that? Or elaborate? I think I wholeheartedly agree with you (seriously), but the sentence, to me, seems like two completely unrelated thoughts strung together.
posted by BlueTrain at 12:11 PM on July 24, 2004


OK.

There's desire to keep a person's past posts and known beliefs as a hammer towards any new post. While a pro-Bush sentiment might add an extra sting, I don't think it has much to do with the lackluster appearance of Postroad's post. That konolia is bored through lack of effort to focus on good threads or seeking out good links to add is a fault, but it's not related to her overall mental state. Some seem to want us to think otherwise.
posted by john at 12:33 PM on July 24, 2004


AskMetafilter reminds me why I came here. I am in love with the green.
posted by Eamon at 12:35 PM on July 24, 2004


Yeah. I do agree. For better or for worse, we are what we post. A couple years ago, when I first joined this place, I came off as cranky, arrogant, and over-bearing. In reality, I am all these things, which is why the assessment seems to have stuck for all these years. However, my friends know me for more positive qualities as well, and once balanced out, the relationships I have are mutually respectful.

Unfortunately, the benefit of the doubt is rarely given to most posters here; I too have used people's past comments against them, if only to point out inconsistencies. As I said, for better or for worse, because of the medium, our comments can only be judged with reference to our past comments. Especially in MetaTalk, where the comments are less factual and more abstract. In Ask MeFi and usually MeFi, comments can generally be proven true or false through links and hard evidence; but when it's just a chatty conversation, it's difficult to differentiate between "good" and "not-so-good".
posted by BlueTrain at 12:58 PM on July 24, 2004


*waits for them to discover i'm son_of_minya*
But you like horse cocks!

AskMetafilter reminds me why I came here. I am in love with the green.
I've given much thought to the notion that the so-called 'decline' of the blue might just be the stratification of the blue, gray and, now, green. Different strokes...
posted by WolfDaddy at 1:42 PM on July 24, 2004


*waits for them to discover i'm son_of_minya*

How do you type so fast with just the one hand?
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 1:52 PM on July 24, 2004


I wish this thread hadn't turned into a big deal "outing" konolia as bunnyfire. If anything, her return to MeFi is a success story, showing that people are capable of turning around from being total trolls and asshats to merely heavily opinionated in a less-obnoxious-than-most manner.

That said, I'd like to see her opinion on the state of the Filter since the gratuitous Bushdaughter picture (which, for lack of any other redeeming values, is an instant icon of the poisonous state of politics today). I've seen a lot of the "best of the web" the last 3 days, and the obvious PoliticsFilter, NewsFilter, IraqFilter or I/PFilter posts I can count on one hand. And the nastiest Front Page Post was Stan Chin dissing Ken Jennings.

I think the glass is at least 2/3 full.


posted by wendell at 6:03 PM on July 24, 2004


Well, the LAST thing I expected to see when I logged on was my own tombstone, Wendell....

As to your question, yes, I think there has been improvement. As to outing, I seriously doubt there was really anyone on this site that DIDN'T know what my old nick was.
posted by konolia at 6:39 PM on July 24, 2004


If I caused you any grief over this konolia (I still can't think of you as anyone other than Bunnyfire) I apologize. I just figured everybody knew, now that it is in your member profile. I have always loved your contributions (with the exception of the anti-newsfilter rants) either as Bunnyfire (a very cool user name) or Konolia (I can not quite figure out this obscure one). Anyway, I think I need to go to parentheses time out now.
posted by caddis at 8:51 PM on July 24, 2004


It still felt to me like some of the posters to this thread were going "Look everybody! She's BUNNYFIRE!", whether or not anybody cared.

Hey, Tombstone Generator's on the Blue, the Bunnyfire account was killed, my brain makes those kind of connections. Thankfully, hotlinking to my own site, I can change the image any time I want. (Bwahahahahaha)
posted by wendell at 9:02 PM on July 24, 2004


It's in the contrast between the best and the rest that the great links truly shine. People need the rough for there to be diamonds. I would argue that a background of sub par links actually enhances the rare jewels. We can argue over what the ratio of mediocre to astonishing should be but all the while realize that the discussion is part of the process.

Congratulations. Some of the more interesting thoughts I've heard recently about newsfucking.
posted by scarabic at 4:49 AM on July 25, 2004


Konolia (I can not quite figure out this obscure one

Don't feel bad-all it is is my deceased grandmother's name. I had to think of something that I could sneak past Matt at the time. He did figure it out within the month but for some bizarre reason he let me stay. If he ever comes to this neck of the woods he DEFINITELY gets donuts.
posted by konolia at 1:36 PM on July 25, 2004


Wow. Really? And there was I thinking he'd forgiven you, a la Padre Matt. Instead, you actually ... snuck back in???

Hrmph.
posted by dash_slot- at 8:02 PM on July 25, 2004


I had to think of something that I could sneak past Matt at the time.

I'm pretty sure sign-ups were closed at the time you joined as konolia, so by sneaking past in, do you mean that you sent him an e-mail asking him to join without revealing who you really were?
posted by BlueTrain at 8:09 PM on July 25, 2004


I only began to suspect konolia was Bunnyfire a few days ago, but then, I took a lengthy break from visiting the Filter. I was getting annoyed with the website, and that's all it is, after all, albeit a somewhat unique site. Remarkable how little things have changed, except that some past posters have disappeared* and newer ones appeared, during my absence.

Bitching is unlikely to effect change, but neither is metabitching, lest that be construed as my motive for posting this comment. I'm just saying, I find it easier to skip over the posts, or entire sites, than to try to herd cats.

*did somebody say rodii's back? cool, I'll never forget Rodii Appreciation Day. And I'm glad to hear that the statute of limitations on member conduct from 2002 has expired.
posted by StOne at 11:01 PM on July 25, 2004


Member signups were open when I got back in. Those were the days when he was taking, hmm, was it ten signups a day?
posted by konolia at 3:29 AM on July 26, 2004


Those were the days when he was taking, hmm, was it ten signups a day?

Those were the days, my friend. We thought they'd never end. We'd make posts forever and a day. We'd link the sites we choose. We'd debate and never lose. Those were the days, oh yes, those were the days.
posted by orange swan at 5:42 AM on July 26, 2004


Let's see. This MeTa thread weighs in at 152 819b. Subtracting 7 499b of style and header data, we get 145 320b of content. A conservative estimate places the percentage of the thread discussing Bunnyfire at fifty percent. That's 72 660b. Multiplied by 10 000 readers (a favourite estimate), that's 726 600 000b of Bunnyfire-related data transferred, a whopping three-quarters of a gigabyte.

What d'ya know—deleting old accounts really would save bandwidth!
posted by DrJohnEvans at 8:56 AM on July 26, 2004


HURRY UP PLEASE, IT'S TIME.
posted by rocketman at 10:18 AM on July 26, 2004


*begins humming Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Bunnyfire"*
posted by wendell at 10:23 AM on July 26, 2004


deleting old accounts really would save bandwidth!

except we really have no bandwidth problem. it's a CPU thing!
posted by quonsar at 10:27 AM on July 26, 2004


BUCK FUTTER, TREBEK. BUCK FUTTER!
posted by bargle at 7:35 PM on July 26, 2004


Konolia (I can not quite figure out this obscure one)

Don't feel bad-all it is is my deceased grandmother's name.


I actually guessed it was bunnyfire in dutch (Which the babelfish now tells me is "konijntjes brand") or a new word meaning "voice of the rabbit" which I guess would actually be "konolalia" or some such thing.
posted by milovoo at 1:55 PM on August 6, 2004


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