Let me tread carefully here.

August 26, 2004 1:45 PM

Let me tread carefully here. Is there a legit way people could post entire articles that require payed subscription (Atlantic, Salon, TNR, etc.) for the rest of us who have no subscriptions?
posted by semmi to MetaFilter-Related at 1:45 PM (28 comments total)

In Los Angeles Times v. Free Republic, 54 U.S.P.Q.2D 1453 (C.D. Cal. 2000) such actions were found to not be fair use and to be prohibited by copyright law.
posted by caddis at 1:52 PM on August 26, 2004

Tell that to the people at sites like WorldNet et al, caddis.
posted by billsaysthis at 1:53 PM on August 26, 2004

Is there content (or, more importantly, post-worthy content) on Salon that can't be accessed via the "Day Pass" method?

I agree, though, that it's annoying that Atlantic Monthly has shut down free access to archive (which isn't to say that I'm going to stop subscribing).
posted by Johnny Assay at 2:02 PM on August 26, 2004

Unfortunately, there is no legal way to do this. In my view, you just shouldn't link to subscription only articles. It only invites a load of half-cocked arguments between people who haven't read the article.

One minor nit: Salon is not really subscription-only. If you can't sit through a 30-second ad, then you must not have been that interested in the article. However, your point is perfectly valid with respect to the Atlantic Online and TNR, both of which really ticked me off when they moved to subscription formats. (I know, I know. If I'm not willing to subscribe, I must not have been that interested.) I don't know if Salon's ad-based day pass system is making them any money, but I'd be happy to view ads in order to get access to either AO or TNR.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 2:07 PM on August 26, 2004

Entire articles just aren't fair use. But Brad DeLong posts entire (short) articles to his blog all the time.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:17 PM on August 26, 2004

For the love of Holy Jesus McChrist, it's "paid".

Paid.

FUCKING PAID.

NOT "payed". Thanksl
posted by reklaw at 2:26 PM on August 26, 2004

Pain.

FUCKING PAIN,

you spelling Nazi.

Yes, we all noticed, and we scrolled. 'Cos we're not total dipsticks.
posted by dash_slot- at 3:03 PM on August 26, 2004

Metatalk: we're not total dipsticks.
posted by PrinceValium at 3:11 PM on August 26, 2004

MetaFilter: FUCKING PAIN
posted by armoured-ant at 3:32 PM on August 26, 2004

recklaw and nthdegx sitting in a tree. k-i-s-i-n-g-g.
posted by Feisty at 3:42 PM on August 26, 2004

Anyone have access to an OED? I'd bet that "payed" has a long history. But reklaw's almost certainly a hardcore prescriptivist, so there's no point in arguing it with him.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 3:49 PM on August 26, 2004

Payed is indeed the correct past tense or past participle for pay, but only where pay means to let out a line by slackening.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 4:09 PM on August 26, 2004 [1 favorite]

I'm much more annoyed by people who whine about others spelling than I am by bad spelling itself. Seriously. What is more annoying a spelling error? Or a thread derailed by a spelling Nazi?

In my opinion, people who get worked-up over bad spelling *diserve* to be annoyed by bad spelling, and seeing the spelling elitists get all patronizing over a spelling error is great fun.

Just for you reklaw, I'll be sure to sprinkle my content real estate with more misspelled words.
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:38 PM on August 26, 2004

The latest use of "payed" (for the relevant sense of the relevant) the OED records is from 1898: "H. PAUL Men & Lett. (1901) 170 Mr. Place and his associates, to adopt a French phrase, payed themselves with words." The second-latest is from 1642. "Paid" is common allatime, though of course most of the citations are for "pay".

Interestingly (or at least I found it interesting), "pay" meaning to pay out a rope, etc, is, according to the OED, just another sense of the "pay" used in reference to money matters. There's another verb "pay" meaning "To smear or cover with pitch, tar, resin, tallow, or the like, as a defence against wet, etc." which has a different etymology.
posted by kenko at 4:41 PM on August 26, 2004

"The Devil to pay and no pitch hot" I remember from Patrick O'Brian, "The Devil" being a nasty area of the boat needing to be caulked.
posted by yerfatma at 5:06 PM on August 26, 2004

OED claims its etymology is a. ONF. peier (= Central F. poier, poyer) = Pr., Sp. pegar:{em}L. pic{amac}re, f. pix, pic-em pitch; cf. It. peciare.
posted by kenko at 5:31 PM on August 26, 2004

Well, this thread plaid out entirely as expected.
posted by yhbc at 5:33 PM on August 26, 2004

Regarding the original question: I hear that many things make an appearance on Usenet, and that then you can just provide a handy-dandy Google Groups link that usenet post.
posted by NortonDC at 5:48 PM on August 26, 2004

No. There is no legal way to post material that is copyrighted in the US on a website based in the US without the copyright holder's permission.
posted by Sidhedevil at 6:38 PM on August 26, 2004

Thanks everybody. And sorry, I meant poyered. Or is it poyed?
posted by semmi at 7:20 PM on August 26, 2004

nortondc ... that's not exactly "legit", but it's the safest and smartest way for someone to do something like this ... post it on usenet and when google picks the post up, link to that
posted by pyramid termite at 7:20 PM on August 26, 2004

You can subscribe to the Atlantic for $9 for a whole year if you check eBay.
posted by GaelFC at 7:26 PM on August 26, 2004

And, by the way, anyone needs a gmail invite?
posted by semmi at 7:26 PM on August 26, 2004

findarticles.com often comes in handy for referencing magazine articles that aren't too recent (like, in last month's issue).

And I'd love a gmail invite, thanks. :-)
posted by skoosh at 11:47 PM on August 26, 2004

Jeez louise. Magazine warez. Never thought I'd see the day.

(satisfied Salon Premium member)
posted by kjh at 12:45 AM on August 27, 2004

Or give a reference to the month and article title and refer people to their local library databases. Most good public libraries, especially those in big cities, pay thousands of dollars each year for remote access privileges to the big article databases like ProQuest, EBSCO and Newsbank. If one wants to read an article, why not do so through their local library? In fact, some libraries even let non-card holders access their databases. So by pointing someone to a library database which is accessible to anyone with a library card.
posted by calwatch at 12:57 AM on August 27, 2004

So by pointing someone to a library database which is accessible to anyone with a library card.
... you give free access while clearly remaining on the good side of the law.
posted by calwatch at 12:58 AM on August 27, 2004

Jeez louise. Magazine warez. Never thought I'd see the day.

Everything that can be digitized is being copied and distributed today. Everything. It's a wonderful world. Or not. 'sup to you.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 12:59 AM on August 27, 2004