When angry modem's ID was supposedly hacked, Nov. 2004 November 19, 2004 11:30 AM Subscribe
angry modem's ID has been hacked, admin please hope us
To be specific, someone using the AngryModem id posted a link to tubgirl on MoFi. The MeFi user page for him has also been hacked.
posted by tommasz at 11:39 AM on November 19, 2004
posted by tommasz at 11:39 AM on November 19, 2004
Why is that it's been hacked and not, say completely intentional on old angry's part?
posted by xmutex at 11:50 AM on November 19, 2004
posted by xmutex at 11:50 AM on November 19, 2004
because he's not REALLY an angry modem, he's a calm and cooperative modem. and we loved him dearly.
UNTIL NOW.
posted by ZippityBuddha at 11:54 AM on November 19, 2004
UNTIL NOW.
posted by ZippityBuddha at 11:54 AM on November 19, 2004
Even if his account was hacked he should be able to post saying his account has been hacked. Unless it was super-hacked.
posted by modofo at 12:00 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by modofo at 12:00 PM on November 19, 2004
and unless of course the hacker does a triple-reverse hack and posts saying he has not, in fact, been hacked
posted by ZippityBuddha at 12:03 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by ZippityBuddha at 12:03 PM on November 19, 2004
I'm sure "there's more to this than meets the eye". As shawnj's post indicates, this may be deliberate. Or maybe not.
posted by tommasz at 12:04 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by tommasz at 12:04 PM on November 19, 2004
ZippityBuddha and tommasz - Do you have any real reason to think the account has been hacked? Or do you just not like what's been posted?
People do weird things on the net. Try not to assume things about people you've never met.
"Hmmmmm........ Something odd. Must be hackers."
posted by y6y6y6 at 12:16 PM on November 19, 2004
People do weird things on the net. Try not to assume things about people you've never met.
"Hmmmmm........ Something odd. Must be hackers."
posted by y6y6y6 at 12:16 PM on November 19, 2004
I'll believe it when I see the quintuple-reverse hack in action. Oh yeah. Then I'll believe it.
posted by iconomy at 12:18 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by iconomy at 12:18 PM on November 19, 2004
Has anybody read Tales from the Bully Pulpit?
"Why does everybody assume it's Hitler?"
posted by hughbot at 12:20 PM on November 19, 2004
"Why does everybody assume it's Hitler?"
posted by hughbot at 12:20 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, as we all know, there's no option to change one's password here (as hinted at by modofo), so a.m. could easily post here once he figures out what's going on; alternately, maybe he just snapped and sucks now. C'est la vie.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 12:20 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Optimus Chyme at 12:20 PM on November 19, 2004
The real lesson is that it's the CHINESE who need our $5 sponsorships.
posted by modofo at 12:21 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by modofo at 12:21 PM on November 19, 2004
To be specific, someone using the AngryModem id posted a link to tubgirl on MoFi.this is not tubgirl.
this is tubgirl.
(you probably don't want to click those links)
posted by mosch at 12:21 PM on November 19, 2004
+++ATH0 NO CARRIER
posted by loquacious at 12:24 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by loquacious at 12:24 PM on November 19, 2004
I should have said "appears to have been hacked" since, at least on my system, the normal MeFi user page comes up and then is replaced with the wilwheaton.org page. I'm making no assumptions with regards to why. It just seemed out of character to what I could recall of his past posting so my first thoughts weren't that it was his doing.
posted by tommasz at 12:25 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by tommasz at 12:25 PM on November 19, 2004
So much oxygen wasted . . . I shed a single tear for our environment.
posted by Ryvar at 12:26 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Ryvar at 12:26 PM on November 19, 2004
It just seemed out of character
you've got to be kidding.
posted by t r a c y at 12:29 PM on November 19, 2004
you've got to be kidding.
posted by t r a c y at 12:29 PM on November 19, 2004
The post in question was a link to Last Measure, (wiki article, SFW) under the guise of a link about Corey Feldman. I'd imagine that tommasz and ZippityBuddha were giving angry modem the benefit of the doubt, in an innocent-until-proven-guilty kind of way. It wouldn't go over well on the blue, either.
on preview: tommasz beat me to it.
posted by ambrosia at 12:31 PM on November 19, 2004
on preview: tommasz beat me to it.
posted by ambrosia at 12:31 PM on November 19, 2004
well, given his posting history, I'd bet it's no hack.
http://www.metafilter.com/search_posts.cfm?user_ID=17176
posted by deathofme at 12:44 PM on November 19, 2004
http://www.metafilter.com/search_posts.cfm?user_ID=17176
posted by deathofme at 12:44 PM on November 19, 2004
I'm not hacked.
posted by angry modem at 12:58 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 12:58 PM on November 19, 2004
Oh, and yeah, I did it.
posted by angry modem at 12:59 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 12:59 PM on November 19, 2004
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! angry modem's hacked himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted by timeistight at 1:06 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by timeistight at 1:06 PM on November 19, 2004
i'm fairly certain this was no hack. even with angry modem's admonition. check out this Monkeyfilter post for a more detailed descriptions of the whole process and the identity of one angry modem.
posted by elykcooks at 1:06 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by elykcooks at 1:06 PM on November 19, 2004
detective elykcooks, you're off the case.
posted by angry modem at 1:09 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
posted by angry modem at 1:09 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
*rends clothing, beats bosom*
WHYYYYYYYYYYY??????
posted by ZippityBuddha at 1:12 PM on November 19, 2004
WHYYYYYYYYYYY??????
posted by ZippityBuddha at 1:12 PM on November 19, 2004
"why, angry, WHYYYYYYYYYY??????"
Just to get you to make a total ass of yourself. Try not to be so easy.
posted by y6y6y6 at 1:17 PM on November 19, 2004
Just to get you to make a total ass of yourself. Try not to be so easy.
posted by y6y6y6 at 1:17 PM on November 19, 2004
These are my official reasons:
1) The United States' treatment of the native peoples of North America is horrible. It's time to make that change.
2) Secondly, I demand that Fareway grocery stores stock cold 2-liter bottles of soda.
posted by angry modem at 1:17 PM on November 19, 2004
1) The United States' treatment of the native peoples of North America is horrible. It's time to make that change.
2) Secondly, I demand that Fareway grocery stores stock cold 2-liter bottles of soda.
posted by angry modem at 1:17 PM on November 19, 2004
This is the same angry modem that tricked me specifically (using MY username) into viewing goatse. *yawn*
posted by konolia at 1:22 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 1:22 PM on November 19, 2004
Are those reasons or demands? Are you holding your account as a hostage? If so are there any other demands? Like um, do you need food to go with the cold 2-liters?
posted by Numenorian at 1:25 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Numenorian at 1:25 PM on November 19, 2004
Hey, ZippityBuddha, put those things back in your shirt. There's n00bs about. What if one saw?
posted by chicobangs at 1:26 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by chicobangs at 1:26 PM on November 19, 2004
chicobangs--too late.
posted by ..ooOOoo....ooOOoo.. at 1:30 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by ..ooOOoo....ooOOoo.. at 1:30 PM on November 19, 2004
I browse monkeyfilter and metafilter in the course of my day's work, as part of my day's work (the news links often inspire more interesting editorials and lead me to good stories I wouldn't have thought of before). This link could easily have gotten me fired from a job I really love, and effectively ended my journalism career.
This is utter shit. Get him outta here.
posted by u.n. owen at 1:37 PM on November 19, 2004 [2 favorites]
This is utter shit. Get him outta here.
posted by u.n. owen at 1:37 PM on November 19, 2004 [2 favorites]
This is utter shit. Get him outta here.
I wasn't aware that there was a joint membership clause in regards to monkeyfilter. I have no intentions of outright shitting on a website that happens to actually be good (for the most part).
posted by angry modem at 1:50 PM on November 19, 2004
I wasn't aware that there was a joint membership clause in regards to monkeyfilter. I have no intentions of outright shitting on a website that happens to actually be good (for the most part).
posted by angry modem at 1:50 PM on November 19, 2004
So it should be ok that your user page is a redirect to a completely different site, and that you could snap at any moment and link to shock sites? Yeah, you're totally the best of the web.
posted by u.n. owen at 1:51 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by u.n. owen at 1:51 PM on November 19, 2004
jesus christ, newbies, METAFILTER IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE FOR YOUR WORKPLACE. YOU SHOULD NOT BE SCREWING AROUND AT WORK.
posted by pikachulolita at 1:54 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by pikachulolita at 1:54 PM on November 19, 2004
pikachulolita,
whilst you and I quite rightly consider u.n. owen to be a newbie, I'm not sure that most people would agree. His point, I believe, is a sound one.
posted by johnny novak at 2:03 PM on November 19, 2004
whilst you and I quite rightly consider u.n. owen to be a newbie, I'm not sure that most people would agree. His point, I believe, is a sound one.
posted by johnny novak at 2:03 PM on November 19, 2004
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posted by Debaser626 at 2:03 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Debaser626 at 2:03 PM on November 19, 2004
I 4M A n000000b!!!!
posted by Debaser626 at 2:04 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Debaser626 at 2:04 PM on November 19, 2004
Er, pikachulolita, I'm no newbie.
And yes, Mefi is supposed to be work safe - hence "NSFW" labels on things that are not safe for work.
I work as an editorial writer. In my job, reading on news and trends is imperative, and I read many blogs over the course of my day for ideas and inspiration. I'm not "screwing around at work," angry modem is screwing around with a normally work-safe site I can feel safe browsing.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:04 PM on November 19, 2004
And yes, Mefi is supposed to be work safe - hence "NSFW" labels on things that are not safe for work.
I work as an editorial writer. In my job, reading on news and trends is imperative, and I read many blogs over the course of my day for ideas and inspiration. I'm not "screwing around at work," angry modem is screwing around with a normally work-safe site I can feel safe browsing.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:04 PM on November 19, 2004
jesus christ, newbies, METAFILTER IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE FOR YOUR WORKPLACE. YOU SHOULD NOT BE SCREWING AROUND AT WORK.
And so it begins. The Newbie bashing. If you're referring to u.n. owen, you've been a member about 2 months longer than her. AND HAVE YOU HEARD THAT SOME CONSIDER "SHOUTING" IN ONLINE COMMENTS TO BE RUDE?!
Am I wrong in assuming that we can all agree that while Angry Modem appears to be a total cock, asking him to be banned from Metafilter for what he posted on Monkeyfilter doesn't make a whole lotta sense?
Just your foolish newbie perspective.
posted by nanojath at 2:06 PM on November 19, 2004
And so it begins. The Newbie bashing. If you're referring to u.n. owen, you've been a member about 2 months longer than her. AND HAVE YOU HEARD THAT SOME CONSIDER "SHOUTING" IN ONLINE COMMENTS TO BE RUDE?!
Am I wrong in assuming that we can all agree that while Angry Modem appears to be a total cock, asking him to be banned from Metafilter for what he posted on Monkeyfilter doesn't make a whole lotta sense?
Just your foolish newbie perspective.
posted by nanojath at 2:06 PM on November 19, 2004
pikachulolita: In my head, that comment read in a Gunnery Sergeant Hartman voice. Well done!
posted by ruddhist at 2:09 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by ruddhist at 2:09 PM on November 19, 2004
Seriously though... that was some messed up crap, angry modem... (though I passed it along to some of my co-workers. Their expressions were priceless.) Of course, being a member of the IT dept., I can cover my tracks, and those of the people I targeted, so I do understand U.N.'s concerns... that's the reason why people use NSFW and SFW tags. But, meh.....
posted by Debaser626 at 2:09 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Debaser626 at 2:09 PM on November 19, 2004
(I should've mentioned that I'm a MoFi member first...)
posted by Debaser626 at 2:10 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Debaser626 at 2:10 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, I'm not sure that the people here realize that a lot of the "newbies" have been lurking for years, know posting etiquette better than regular members (as the shouting would seem to indicate) and can be just as snarky as the most senior members here.
If every time a newbie posts a comment, you're going to whine about it, then there won't be any and it will continue to be an intellectually incestuous, closed-door place. Congrats, if that's what you want. Lord knows we wouldn't want fresh blood around these parts.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:10 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
If every time a newbie posts a comment, you're going to whine about it, then there won't be any and it will continue to be an intellectually incestuous, closed-door place. Congrats, if that's what you want. Lord knows we wouldn't want fresh blood around these parts.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:10 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
you guys want angry modem banned for trolling on another website?
does that make any sense?
wait. this is metatalk. it doesn't have to.
posted by Stynxno at 2:15 PM on November 19, 2004
does that make any sense?
wait. this is metatalk. it doesn't have to.
posted by Stynxno at 2:15 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, as long as he gets banned from MoFi... that's enough.
posted by Debaser626 at 2:16 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Debaser626 at 2:16 PM on November 19, 2004
ok, fair enough, sincere apologies for offending anyone - especially un owen.
but i get a little angry when people start saying "wah, this isn't safe for work", and that anger was just doubled when i figured out this wasn't even ABOUT metafilter, it was about MONKEYFILTER. asking for users to be banned for their actions on other sites has been done before (users attacking others in comments in blogs, etc) and i really don't like the precedent this would set, not to mention that it would send the message to the many new users we have that actions on other sites are fair grounds for exile.
users are not banned for general character issues; AFAIK, you have to actually do something wrong HERE to get banned. i only assumed newbieness because that precedent, i thought, was fairly clear.
imho, this is just a symptom of the *many* mentions of monkeyfilter within metafilter since new memberships were opened up. it happened before with 9622 - inside jokes and stuff like that get people really on edge here - call it community nationalism - and i REALLY hate the idea that metatalk can be used to call people out for misconduct on other sites.
again apologies to all, but i still don't see a) why this should be on metafilter at all, and b) why un owen called for angry modem to be kicked off mefi as well. if he misbehaved on monkeyfilter, ban him there. metafilter does not need to be involved.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:18 PM on November 19, 2004
but i get a little angry when people start saying "wah, this isn't safe for work", and that anger was just doubled when i figured out this wasn't even ABOUT metafilter, it was about MONKEYFILTER. asking for users to be banned for their actions on other sites has been done before (users attacking others in comments in blogs, etc) and i really don't like the precedent this would set, not to mention that it would send the message to the many new users we have that actions on other sites are fair grounds for exile.
users are not banned for general character issues; AFAIK, you have to actually do something wrong HERE to get banned. i only assumed newbieness because that precedent, i thought, was fairly clear.
imho, this is just a symptom of the *many* mentions of monkeyfilter within metafilter since new memberships were opened up. it happened before with 9622 - inside jokes and stuff like that get people really on edge here - call it community nationalism - and i REALLY hate the idea that metatalk can be used to call people out for misconduct on other sites.
again apologies to all, but i still don't see a) why this should be on metafilter at all, and b) why un owen called for angry modem to be kicked off mefi as well. if he misbehaved on monkeyfilter, ban him there. metafilter does not need to be involved.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:18 PM on November 19, 2004
Have you seen what angry modem's profile does?
It redirects you to wilwheaton.org. Another shock site.
Combined with his behavior on mofi, I'd think he's an unacceptable risk here - he only refrains from posting NSFW, improperly labeled crap here because, in his words, mefi "happens to be good (for the most part)." So I guess as long as you keep him happy, it'll be fine. But as soon as his arbitrary standards of "good" go away, he'll not only redirect you to shock sites in his profile but post them on the main page. I'm not saying mathowie should necessarily boot him here (I would, but I'm not him), but he seems like a pretty big liability. A lot of mefites have good jobs they don't need ruined by antics like this, or by looking at someone's profile, for chrissakes.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:22 PM on November 19, 2004
It redirects you to wilwheaton.org. Another shock site.
Combined with his behavior on mofi, I'd think he's an unacceptable risk here - he only refrains from posting NSFW, improperly labeled crap here because, in his words, mefi "happens to be good (for the most part)." So I guess as long as you keep him happy, it'll be fine. But as soon as his arbitrary standards of "good" go away, he'll not only redirect you to shock sites in his profile but post them on the main page. I'm not saying mathowie should necessarily boot him here (I would, but I'm not him), but he seems like a pretty big liability. A lot of mefites have good jobs they don't need ruined by antics like this, or by looking at someone's profile, for chrissakes.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:22 PM on November 19, 2004
for crying out loud... go bother tracicle about his antics at mofi, don't call for him to be ousted on a completely separate site. and pretty much anyone here could snap at any given moment, so banning someone for their potential bad behaviour would require matt just pack up and close the place. frankly if your work requires you surf the net then your employer should be prepared for you to accidentally come across stupid shit sometimes.
posted by t r a c y at 2:23 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by t r a c y at 2:23 PM on November 19, 2004
Am I wrong in assuming that we can all agree that while Angry Modem appears to be a total cock, asking him to be banned from Metafilter for what he posted on Monkeyfilter doesn't make a whole lotta sense?
While I certainly agree, there is precedent for people being banned for what they've posted on other sites.
And yes, Mefi is supposed to be work safe
Oh, grow up.
posted by rushmc at 2:25 PM on November 19, 2004
While I certainly agree, there is precedent for people being banned for what they've posted on other sites.
And yes, Mefi is supposed to be work safe
Oh, grow up.
posted by rushmc at 2:25 PM on November 19, 2004
While I certainly agree, there is precedent for people being banned for what they've posted on other sites.
It happened once because someone drug metafilter into a spat with little green footballs. This had nothing to do with metafilter til someone made this metatalk thread.
posted by angry modem at 2:27 PM on November 19, 2004
It happened once because someone drug metafilter into a spat with little green footballs. This had nothing to do with metafilter til someone made this metatalk thread.
posted by angry modem at 2:27 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, as long as he gets banned from MoFi... that's enough.
And he was.
I think the big thing was that people finally learned that the user page ALLOWS HTML AND OTHER SUCH THINGS. the user pages aren't secure and anyone and their monkey can do what angry modem has done. why this would freak someone out, I'm not sure.
u.n. owen: if you have a personal problem against angry modem, create your own community blog and ban him there. Or you could email matt and asked. But angry modem was doing nothing to belittle metafilter and he posts less "risk material" than most people. Angry didn't force you to click the link. You clicked and you have to pay the consquences. And the fact that you're bitching about this on metafilter shows that you want your cake and eat it too.
posted by Stynxno at 2:27 PM on November 19, 2004
And he was.
I think the big thing was that people finally learned that the user page ALLOWS HTML AND OTHER SUCH THINGS. the user pages aren't secure and anyone and their monkey can do what angry modem has done. why this would freak someone out, I'm not sure.
u.n. owen: if you have a personal problem against angry modem, create your own community blog and ban him there. Or you could email matt and asked. But angry modem was doing nothing to belittle metafilter and he posts less "risk material" than most people. Angry didn't force you to click the link. You clicked and you have to pay the consquences. And the fact that you're bitching about this on metafilter shows that you want your cake and eat it too.
posted by Stynxno at 2:27 PM on November 19, 2004
So wait. Mefi's not supposed to be work-safe? Truly?
Because I seem to remember everyone getting pretty worked up when this same sort of thing happened here in the past.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:27 PM on November 19, 2004
Because I seem to remember everyone getting pretty worked up when this same sort of thing happened here in the past.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:27 PM on November 19, 2004
And yes, Mefi is supposed to be work safe - hence "NSFW" labels on things that are not safe for work.
no it really isn't. where did you read that MeFi is supposed to be safe for any kind of boob-phobic workplace? self-policing led the (mostly American, hence with boob-phobic emoployers) community to add nsfw tags. just that.
you read this site to pilfer news stories from it? cool. but don't get mad if every once in a while something nsfw actually gets into your precious monitor.
if your employer's so cranky, you can also read MeFi from home, by the way.
posted by matteo at 2:28 PM on November 19, 2004
no it really isn't. where did you read that MeFi is supposed to be safe for any kind of boob-phobic workplace? self-policing led the (mostly American, hence with boob-phobic emoployers) community to add nsfw tags. just that.
you read this site to pilfer news stories from it? cool. but don't get mad if every once in a while something nsfw actually gets into your precious monitor.
if your employer's so cranky, you can also read MeFi from home, by the way.
posted by matteo at 2:28 PM on November 19, 2004
So wait. Mefi's not supposed to be work-safe? Truly?
Because I seem to remember everyone getting pretty worked up when this same sort of thing happened here in the past.
monkeyfilter != metafilter.
posted by Stynxno at 2:29 PM on November 19, 2004
Because I seem to remember everyone getting pretty worked up when this same sort of thing happened here in the past.
monkeyfilter != metafilter.
posted by Stynxno at 2:29 PM on November 19, 2004
So you're okay with people having redirects on their user pages?
Okie, then.
No problem. I rescind my complaints. My complaint was based on a combination of behaviors - in the vein of "if you make one mistake, it's forgivable, but if it's a pattern of behavior, it's probably not." Fool me twice...can't get fooled again.
I just think it'd be nice if there was an official rule against redirects (particularly to shock sites and general awfulness) in the user pages. If it's acceptable to do whatever you want with a user page, tubgirl has always been a favorite image of mine.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:30 PM on November 19, 2004
Okie, then.
No problem. I rescind my complaints. My complaint was based on a combination of behaviors - in the vein of "if you make one mistake, it's forgivable, but if it's a pattern of behavior, it's probably not." Fool me twice...can't get fooled again.
I just think it'd be nice if there was an official rule against redirects (particularly to shock sites and general awfulness) in the user pages. If it's acceptable to do whatever you want with a user page, tubgirl has always been a favorite image of mine.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:30 PM on November 19, 2004
Have you seen what angry modem's profile does?
It redirects you to wilwheaton.org. Another shock site.
There is nothing shock site like on wilwheaton.org. I should know. I own the domain.
posted by angry modem at 2:30 PM on November 19, 2004
It redirects you to wilwheaton.org. Another shock site.
There is nothing shock site like on wilwheaton.org. I should know. I own the domain.
posted by angry modem at 2:30 PM on November 19, 2004
yeah, i went to wilwheaton.org and saw nothing NSFW there at all. perhaps that is because it has been "hacked by chinese", but as far as i am able to tell, angry modem has not done anything wrong here on metafilter.
here's where i'm coming from:
a) the idea of preemptive attacks on "unacceptable risks" is a principle that, due to certain current events, i am not very keen on.
b) freedom of speech is far, far more important to me than making sure people don't see anything inappropriate.
unless i'm missing something huge about wilwheaton.org, i think you are out of line in demanding that he be dismissed.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:30 PM on November 19, 2004
here's where i'm coming from:
a) the idea of preemptive attacks on "unacceptable risks" is a principle that, due to certain current events, i am not very keen on.
b) freedom of speech is far, far more important to me than making sure people don't see anything inappropriate.
unless i'm missing something huge about wilwheaton.org, i think you are out of line in demanding that he be dismissed.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:30 PM on November 19, 2004
matteo, just for verification:
Is it okay to redirect to anything at all in one's user page? Because between that and all the new user signups, I foresee...problems.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:31 PM on November 19, 2004
Is it okay to redirect to anything at all in one's user page? Because between that and all the new user signups, I foresee...problems.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:31 PM on November 19, 2004
regardless of what I said before, pikachulolita is correct in most respects. But it was not a clueless noob like'n mysef who started this, it was another 2001-type like yourself - ZippityBuddha - who got this rolling with the false assumption that angry modems self-hijkacking of his profile page indicated he was being hacked. When actually he's just being a cock. And this is apparently normal behavior for him.
posted by nanojath at 2:31 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by nanojath at 2:31 PM on November 19, 2004
Ok, guys, I take it back and I apologize. You're right, mefi =/= mofi, and that's true.
I will still reserve the right to point, laugh, and say "I told you so" when AM goes postal.
But until then, you have my sincerest apologies. I will stop crapping on the thread now. Sorry again.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:32 PM on November 19, 2004
I will still reserve the right to point, laugh, and say "I told you so" when AM goes postal.
But until then, you have my sincerest apologies. I will stop crapping on the thread now. Sorry again.
posted by u.n. owen at 2:32 PM on November 19, 2004
and to reiterate, i only assumed newbieness because the precedent, unless mefi as a whole is dragged into a screaming match with another website, is that people are only banned for things they do wrong HERE - and i thought that was really well-known. i apologize to zippitybuddha and i wish i hadn't even said newbie because i don't like its use as a pejorative and, at heart, meant to imply nothing bad about new users.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:35 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by pikachulolita at 2:35 PM on November 19, 2004
It's a bad idea to ban someone for something they did elsewhere. But why defend angry_modem? It's a shitty thing for him to do. It's in character. He's, um, twelve years old, I think.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:41 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:41 PM on November 19, 2004
Banhammer? Didn't he write something or other for that Miami Vice show that was so popular with the youngin's a few years ago?
And isn't that a bit on the cruel-and-unusual-punishment side? How about we just subject 'em to some Wendy Carlos?
posted by loquacious at 2:46 PM on November 19, 2004
And isn't that a bit on the cruel-and-unusual-punishment side? How about we just subject 'em to some Wendy Carlos?
posted by loquacious at 2:46 PM on November 19, 2004
To be specific, someone using the AngryModem id posted a link to tubgirl on MoFi.
this is not tubgirl.
this is tubgirl.
(you probably don't want to click those links)
posted by mosch at 12:21 PM PST on November 19
PROBABLY??? damn you, I lost work!
posted by page404 at 2:47 PM on November 19, 2004
this is not tubgirl.
this is tubgirl.
(you probably don't want to click those links)
posted by mosch at 12:21 PM PST on November 19
PROBABLY??? damn you, I lost work!
posted by page404 at 2:47 PM on November 19, 2004
...and the wilwheaton.org thing clears up the responsibility and intent of the "konolia" trap with which angry_modem tricked you into goatseeing, huh Konolia? :)
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:47 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:47 PM on November 19, 2004
oh angry modem, you're so fucking gay. look world i'm angry modem, i can't get laid so i'll post goatse on monkeyfilter. now i'm the centre of attention again for the first time since i was 1 years old. my mummy loves me. gay gay gay gay gay
posted by carfilhiot at 2:48 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by carfilhiot at 2:48 PM on November 19, 2004
Hmm, let's try to get this on different lines. I think u.n. owen may be correct - a person who puts a trap link to a hijack site, specifically designed to get individuals in trouble by abusing javascript (I've hit Last Measure before, moderating the bottomfeeders on Slashdot where that sort of thing is just an occupational hazard) - is a hands down cock, a real shithead, the kind of bad citizen that makes the online environment a less fun place to be. They're likely to screw things up for themselves here eventually. But that's life.
Because honestly, the internet, or whatever the hell you call this thing, is NOT safe for work. Most of us, I would bet very safe money, would get fired if it was laid down before our bosses what we were doing and how much and why. Because there are a whole lotta people taking 3 hour coffee breaks on places like Metafilter. Hijacks are part of life here. So if random browsing is a legitimate part of your job, your employer needs to know that from time to time, through no fault of your own, you may briefly land on some nasty smack. So the "I could get fired" line is maybe a bit hyperbole. Plus people do things like say "cock" over and over and over again to make a point... No, it's not like a looped wav shouting "I'm Looking at Gay Porn," but it's still not really "safe for work"
But there are expectations and policies and courteaous behavior. Related to things actually here - IS it policy that you can redirect your profile here at metafilter to whatever external site? I expect, I thought reasonably, that when I click a profile link, I'm heading to a profile - that is to say, a metafilter.com link. If that is not supposed to be the case I'd like to know, so I won't ever click on a cock like Angry Modem's profile again, because, jeeze, who knows? Can anyone answer whether this ability is a feature, a loophole, or a hack?
posted by nanojath at 2:54 PM on November 19, 2004
Because honestly, the internet, or whatever the hell you call this thing, is NOT safe for work. Most of us, I would bet very safe money, would get fired if it was laid down before our bosses what we were doing and how much and why. Because there are a whole lotta people taking 3 hour coffee breaks on places like Metafilter. Hijacks are part of life here. So if random browsing is a legitimate part of your job, your employer needs to know that from time to time, through no fault of your own, you may briefly land on some nasty smack. So the "I could get fired" line is maybe a bit hyperbole. Plus people do things like say "cock" over and over and over again to make a point... No, it's not like a looped wav shouting "I'm Looking at Gay Porn," but it's still not really "safe for work"
But there are expectations and policies and courteaous behavior. Related to things actually here - IS it policy that you can redirect your profile here at metafilter to whatever external site? I expect, I thought reasonably, that when I click a profile link, I'm heading to a profile - that is to say, a metafilter.com link. If that is not supposed to be the case I'd like to know, so I won't ever click on a cock like Angry Modem's profile again, because, jeeze, who knows? Can anyone answer whether this ability is a feature, a loophole, or a hack?
posted by nanojath at 2:54 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, I am not able to take him off my contact list because of that redirect. I don't want to go see if he is redirecting to inappropriate crap, because last time I got directed to a wilwheaton site of his I got to look at someone's big gaping anus, a sight I never want to repeat.
posted by konolia at 2:57 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 2:57 PM on November 19, 2004
But why defend angry_modem? It's a shitty thing for him to do.
not to elevate this case to a status it most definitely does not deserve, but honestly, for the same reason the ACLU defends racist hate speech: to defend the principle at heart. even if you want to look at it from a self-interest perspective, if hate speech is outlawed, then whoever defines hate speech controls hate speech can tell you exactly what you are and are not allowed to say. that general principle applies here as well; if every single person who was an asshole on another website got a meta post, i don't think anyone would ever read meta again because the signal to noise ratio would be unbearable.
also, if someone is a jerk to me personally, i don't go into his workplace, or his favorite bar, or her knitting circle, and tell everyone there what a dick i think he is. this is another important principle - i like that my reputation in different circles is different. ESPECIALLY on the internet.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:57 PM on November 19, 2004
not to elevate this case to a status it most definitely does not deserve, but honestly, for the same reason the ACLU defends racist hate speech: to defend the principle at heart. even if you want to look at it from a self-interest perspective, if hate speech is outlawed, then whoever defines hate speech controls hate speech can tell you exactly what you are and are not allowed to say. that general principle applies here as well; if every single person who was an asshole on another website got a meta post, i don't think anyone would ever read meta again because the signal to noise ratio would be unbearable.
also, if someone is a jerk to me personally, i don't go into his workplace, or his favorite bar, or her knitting circle, and tell everyone there what a dick i think he is. this is another important principle - i like that my reputation in different circles is different. ESPECIALLY on the internet.
posted by pikachulolita at 2:57 PM on November 19, 2004
As long as we're OK with the banning and all, I nominate konolia.
That's OK with you, right, konolia?
posted by adamgreenfield at 2:59 PM on November 19, 2004
That's OK with you, right, konolia?
posted by adamgreenfield at 2:59 PM on November 19, 2004
Oh, so that's Tubgirl. Who knew? At least she's hygienic enough to be all self-defecating in the bathtub. Good for her.
posted by stet at 2:59 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by stet at 2:59 PM on November 19, 2004
JESUS CHRIST I'LL TAKE OFF THE FUCKING REDIRECT K
posted by angry modem at 3:00 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 3:00 PM on November 19, 2004
(Typed while eating lunch and all. I guess I'm not terribly shockable.)
posted by stet at 3:00 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by stet at 3:00 PM on November 19, 2004
troll wins
posted by Pretty_Generic at 3:01 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Pretty_Generic at 3:01 PM on November 19, 2004
adamgreenfield, been there, done that, got the wardrobe.
posted by konolia at 3:02 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 3:02 PM on November 19, 2004
MetaTalk: gay gay gay gay gay
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:05 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:05 PM on November 19, 2004
BTW, for those who do not know, there is a precedent of someone here losing their job over clicking a link here. This isn't academic. And the link wasn't even porno-it was simply discussing child pornography, if memory serves.
(not me. I forget who it was,but I am sure someone around here remembers.)
posted by konolia at 3:05 PM on November 19, 2004
(not me. I forget who it was,but I am sure someone around here remembers.)
posted by konolia at 3:05 PM on November 19, 2004
around this point i would ordinarily tell u.n. owen to go fuck off, but matt finds that offensive, so out of respect for matt i'll refrain from telling u.n. owen to go fuck off for the moment.
posted by quonsar at 3:09 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by quonsar at 3:09 PM on November 19, 2004
u.n. owen is a cockface
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 3:15 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Steve_at_Linnwood at 3:15 PM on November 19, 2004
quonsar, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that your grace and maturity never fail to astound.
posted by u.n. owen at 3:16 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by u.n. owen at 3:16 PM on November 19, 2004
nanojath: it's simple HTML, no hacking involved; anyone can do it.
As regards user page decorum, the word from mathowie is go nuts.
posted by timeistight at 3:18 PM on November 19, 2004
As regards user page decorum, the word from mathowie is go nuts.
posted by timeistight at 3:18 PM on November 19, 2004
You know, far be it from me to defend behavior intentionally designed to disturb and offend but really, what is your particular problem with goatse?
"Big gaping anus, a sight I never want to repeat"
Why? Is the sight of a feature of the human body (that, after all, you share, if in a presumably attenuated form) more offensive to you than, say, a picture of a deballed, bloodsoaked Marine, or the desecrated corpse of a nine-year-old child?
And, yeah, scat's pretty sad, and maybe a little disturbing. But, c'mon, grow up, OK? I hate to be the one to say it, but shit happens.
Put another way: your priorities regarding "the offensive" and its nature mystify me.
posted by adamgreenfield at 3:22 PM on November 19, 2004
"Big gaping anus, a sight I never want to repeat"
Why? Is the sight of a feature of the human body (that, after all, you share, if in a presumably attenuated form) more offensive to you than, say, a picture of a deballed, bloodsoaked Marine, or the desecrated corpse of a nine-year-old child?
And, yeah, scat's pretty sad, and maybe a little disturbing. But, c'mon, grow up, OK? I hate to be the one to say it, but shit happens.
Put another way: your priorities regarding "the offensive" and its nature mystify me.
posted by adamgreenfield at 3:22 PM on November 19, 2004
a) why this should be on metafilter at all
There was a point where some of us really thought angry modem wasn't that bad. So we just wanted to let MeFi know in case the account was hacked. There's a better way to do that I'm sure, but we were young, impressionable kids - high on Oreos and Mountain Dew. wea culpa
Anyway - according to Internet time it's all over, so thanks everyone for playing.
Can you believe that 800 billion dollar deficit increase? Damn!
posted by petebest at 3:22 PM on November 19, 2004
There was a point where some of us really thought angry modem wasn't that bad. So we just wanted to let MeFi know in case the account was hacked. There's a better way to do that I'm sure, but we were young, impressionable kids - high on Oreos and Mountain Dew. wea culpa
Anyway - according to Internet time it's all over, so thanks everyone for playing.
Can you believe that 800 billion dollar deficit increase? Damn!
posted by petebest at 3:22 PM on November 19, 2004
I'm sure I speak for everyone
not so fast, owen.
anyway, marvelous tagline:
MetaFilter -- Last Time I Got To Look At Someone's Big Gaping Anus
posted by matteo at 3:23 PM on November 19, 2004
not so fast, owen.
anyway, marvelous tagline:
MetaFilter -- Last Time I Got To Look At Someone's Big Gaping Anus
posted by matteo at 3:23 PM on November 19, 2004
BTW, for those who do not know, there is a precedent of someone here losing their job over clicking a link here. This isn't academic. And the link wasn't even porno-it was simply discussing child pornography, if memory serves.
i remember that, i think it was beth. a perfect example of why forcing others to be responsible for the safety of your workplace surfing habits is unfair and futile - there was absolutely nothing wrong with the thread she was viewing, her employer just happened to be an illiterate knee-jerk lunatic.
posted by t r a c y at 3:23 PM on November 19, 2004
i remember that, i think it was beth. a perfect example of why forcing others to be responsible for the safety of your workplace surfing habits is unfair and futile - there was absolutely nothing wrong with the thread she was viewing, her employer just happened to be an illiterate knee-jerk lunatic.
posted by t r a c y at 3:23 PM on November 19, 2004
a hands down cock, a real shithead, the kind of bad citizen that makes the online environment a less fun place to be
good god, the pompous, pious posturing of the n00bz is really kind of amusing, wot?
posted by quonsar at 3:26 PM on November 19, 2004
good god, the pompous, pious posturing of the n00bz is really kind of amusing, wot?
posted by quonsar at 3:26 PM on November 19, 2004
un owen, it's pretty easy to avoid landing on pages that'll get you into trouble. When I start a new contract I find out about the net policy at the office, then when I do visit the site on lunch hours, etc, I just go to places where comments have already been placed. If something is shock or porn related, the comments will reflect it. I hover over links to see what URL they go to. It's really not that difficult.
And add my voice to the "wtf?" response to the concept of banning someone here over behaviour on another site.
Also, I support angry's protest over Fareway grocery stores not stocking cold 2-liter bottles of soda. I hope they learned something in all of this.
posted by Salmonberry at 3:28 PM on November 19, 2004
And add my voice to the "wtf?" response to the concept of banning someone here over behaviour on another site.
Also, I support angry's protest over Fareway grocery stores not stocking cold 2-liter bottles of soda. I hope they learned something in all of this.
posted by Salmonberry at 3:28 PM on November 19, 2004
Why? Is the sight of a feature of the human body (that, after all, you share, if in a presumably attenuated form) more offensive to you than, say, a picture of a deballed, bloodsoaked Marine, or the desecrated corpse of a nine-year-old child?
Well, the only one of the above I have viewed is the anus. Yes, I have one, and so does everyone else, but hello, I was not EXPECTING to see it, was not LOOKING for it, and ps my computer is in the dining room. Where my teenage girls walk by on the way to the kitchen or to the living room where the tv is. Even if I wanted to see this internet icon, (which I did not and do not) I sure as heck wouldn't choose to see it with them in the vicinity.
Freedom of choice should include freedom to choose NOT to see certain images. If you are intelligent enough to post here you are intelligent enough to understand that.
posted by konolia at 3:30 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, the only one of the above I have viewed is the anus. Yes, I have one, and so does everyone else, but hello, I was not EXPECTING to see it, was not LOOKING for it, and ps my computer is in the dining room. Where my teenage girls walk by on the way to the kitchen or to the living room where the tv is. Even if I wanted to see this internet icon, (which I did not and do not) I sure as heck wouldn't choose to see it with them in the vicinity.
Freedom of choice should include freedom to choose NOT to see certain images. If you are intelligent enough to post here you are intelligent enough to understand that.
posted by konolia at 3:30 PM on November 19, 2004
Yes - you choose by NOT CLICKING THE LINK. Surely even you understand this.
posted by adamgreenfield at 3:34 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by adamgreenfield at 3:34 PM on November 19, 2004
gay gay gay gay gay
posted by carfilhiot at 2:48 PM PST on November 19
Yeah!
'Cos, like, that's a bad thing.
Yeah!
posted by dash_slot- at 3:36 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by carfilhiot at 2:48 PM PST on November 19
Yeah!
'Cos, like, that's a bad thing.
Yeah!
posted by dash_slot- at 3:36 PM on November 19, 2004
adamgreenfield, in my case there was some trickery/entrapment involved. The mouseover simply said wilwheaton. I don't remember, I may have posted a metatalk thread about it, but whatever.
if someone posts goatse and clearly links it as such, fair enough, but if someone doesn't know that a wilwheaton site has that and worse, that is just wrong.
posted by konolia at 3:39 PM on November 19, 2004
if someone posts goatse and clearly links it as such, fair enough, but if someone doesn't know that a wilwheaton site has that and worse, that is just wrong.
posted by konolia at 3:39 PM on November 19, 2004
konolia: none of us including myself have any idea what you're talking about, and your fervent attempts to paint someone else as your personal devil are pretty trite.
posted by angry modem at 3:42 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 3:42 PM on November 19, 2004
I third the call for copious cold beverages in the local Fareway.
And quintillionth the call to stop being so easily perturbed.
Seriously, if where you works is that anal. Do not touch the internet. Ever. Never click any link. Because you do not control what it will send you.
posted by Freen at 3:44 PM on November 19, 2004
And quintillionth the call to stop being so easily perturbed.
Seriously, if where you works is that anal. Do not touch the internet. Ever. Never click any link. Because you do not control what it will send you.
posted by Freen at 3:44 PM on November 19, 2004
angry modem, quonsar knows and so does ethereal bligh. Don't play innocent with me.
posted by konolia at 3:46 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 3:46 PM on November 19, 2004
konolia, not watching where she walked, stepped in dogshit she didn't see and thus want's angrymodem's dog put to death.
posted by quonsar at 3:49 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by quonsar at 3:49 PM on November 19, 2004
Don't play innocent with me.
And wipe that smirk of your face, young man, or you'll be grounded for life.
posted by timeistight at 3:49 PM on November 19, 2004
And wipe that smirk of your face, young man, or you'll be grounded for life.
posted by timeistight at 3:49 PM on November 19, 2004
want's angrymodem's
and only a shitlicking nunfucker would put an apostrophe they're.
posted by quonsar at 3:50 PM on November 19, 2004
and only a shitlicking nunfucker would put an apostrophe they're.
posted by quonsar at 3:50 PM on November 19, 2004
hey it's konolia
hey it's konolia 22:25 < @pi> | .-- 22:26 < @pi> | /::
22:26 < @pi> | |:: 22:26 < @pi> | |:: 22 ...
www.wilwheaton.org/crusher/history/20040811-22_30.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages >>>>
Google Konolia. I think the above will be found on the second page. Click the link, but only if gaping buttholes dont offend you. Just in case, I am sure googlecache will help you out if he cleans up his mess before you get there.
posted by konolia at 3:51 PM on November 19, 2004
hey it's konolia 22:25 < @pi> | .-- 22:26 < @pi> | /::
22:26 < @pi> | |:: 22:26 < @pi> | |:: 22 ...
www.wilwheaton.org/crusher/history/20040811-22_30.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages >>>>
Google Konolia. I think the above will be found on the second page. Click the link, but only if gaping buttholes dont offend you. Just in case, I am sure googlecache will help you out if he cleans up his mess before you get there.
posted by konolia at 3:51 PM on November 19, 2004
I've read 25% of the beginning comments and a few at the end . W/o reading all of them; Has someone taken over angry modem?
posted by thomcatspike at 3:51 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by thomcatspike at 3:51 PM on November 19, 2004
clearly, the internet is out to get you, and you are blaming angrymodem.
posted by quonsar at 3:52 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by quonsar at 3:52 PM on November 19, 2004
I can't remember the last time I saw a thread so pathetic.
Night-night.
posted by dash_slot- at 3:52 PM on November 19, 2004
Night-night.
posted by dash_slot- at 3:52 PM on November 19, 2004
Where my teenage girls walk by on the way to the kitchen or to the living room where the tv is.
if you ask me, better to see a butthole on the Internet than an asshole on TV
seriously: what's the bad part that shocks you, connie, the "gaping" part or simply the butthole?
If you are intelligent enough to post here you are intelligent enough to understand that.
this blanket statement doesn't cover things like the red heifer of doom, one assumes
Has someone taken over angry modem?
yes, the Devil. but now konolia will exorcise him.
;)
posted by matteo at 3:57 PM on November 19, 2004
if you ask me, better to see a butthole on the Internet than an asshole on TV
seriously: what's the bad part that shocks you, connie, the "gaping" part or simply the butthole?
If you are intelligent enough to post here you are intelligent enough to understand that.
this blanket statement doesn't cover things like the red heifer of doom, one assumes
Has someone taken over angry modem?
yes, the Devil. but now konolia will exorcise him.
;)
posted by matteo at 3:57 PM on November 19, 2004
konolia: That archive is from a page that is open to edits by anyone that comes across it. I also put a disclaimer on the main page, so I still fail to see how this is something that I can be held for.
posted by angry modem at 3:58 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 3:58 PM on November 19, 2004
(held accountable)
posted by angry modem at 3:58 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 3:58 PM on November 19, 2004
I figured it out, back to the green.
posted by thomcatspike at 3:58 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by thomcatspike at 3:58 PM on November 19, 2004
Thanks matteo...
posted by thomcatspike at 3:59 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by thomcatspike at 3:59 PM on November 19, 2004
Good christ, konolia, what are we supposed to do?
So you were entrapped by Wesley Willis, or something. So you were exposed to anus. Is this the end of the world? Would it warp your poor teenage girls to be exposed to said anus?
What I get from you - *all* I get from you - is that you want the phenomenal world to be remade so it suits your notions of propriety. So you never need leave your own little comfort zone.
You people run most of the world already, can't you leave Metafilter well enough alone?
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:00 PM on November 19, 2004 [2 favorites]
So you were entrapped by Wesley Willis, or something. So you were exposed to anus. Is this the end of the world? Would it warp your poor teenage girls to be exposed to said anus?
What I get from you - *all* I get from you - is that you want the phenomenal world to be remade so it suits your notions of propriety. So you never need leave your own little comfort zone.
You people run most of the world already, can't you leave Metafilter well enough alone?
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:00 PM on November 19, 2004 [2 favorites]
I just wanted to add that this thread is so entertaining that I had to go pee but I waited and waited in order to read it and I ended up peeing myself AND IT'S ALL METAFILTER'S FAULT
carpet's ruined. I'm gonna sue mathowie. it really tied the room together
posted by matteo at 4:01 PM on November 19, 2004
carpet's ruined. I'm gonna sue mathowie. it really tied the room together
posted by matteo at 4:01 PM on November 19, 2004
I was told it was yours. There are worse pics on that site. I did not access it thru the page with the disclaimer. Plus you knew about what happened to me with it, and that was weeks ago, and it is still up. I know because I clicked.
It was no prettier the second time, believe me.
posted by konolia at 4:01 PM on November 19, 2004
It was no prettier the second time, believe me.
posted by konolia at 4:01 PM on November 19, 2004
konolia: and I'm not taking it down. the archives are made automatically and I refuse to fuck up the continuity.
let me make it clear that I don't care that you found something bad by using the google on the internet, regardless of how how you found it, especially since you found it on your own.
posted by angry modem at 4:07 PM on November 19, 2004
let me make it clear that I don't care that you found something bad by using the google on the internet, regardless of how how you found it, especially since you found it on your own.
posted by angry modem at 4:07 PM on November 19, 2004
Oh for goodness' sake, without saying anything else on the topic, it's estabished that goatse isn't cool on Metafilter. Not cool. Just because you want to wind up Konolia doesn't mean you can pretend it isn't, or that she's some sort of freak to not want to see it, or is imposing her will on MeFi as a whole. MeFi doesn't tolerate goatse postings; end story.
Who'da thunk I'd be posting on MeTa in defence of Konolia? But the pileup is insane. I know I'm just feeding the fire, but for fuck's sake, give it a break. (And angry modem, grow up. Really.)
posted by livii at 4:07 PM on November 19, 2004
Who'da thunk I'd be posting on MeTa in defence of Konolia? But the pileup is insane. I know I'm just feeding the fire, but for fuck's sake, give it a break. (And angry modem, grow up. Really.)
posted by livii at 4:07 PM on November 19, 2004
I don't WANT to be exposed to anus. If the link says goatse, I know not to click on it. If it says something else, and I click on it, heck yeah I am gonna be offended.
posted by konolia at 4:07 PM on November 19, 2004 [13 favorites]
posted by konolia at 4:07 PM on November 19, 2004 [13 favorites]
u.n. owen - You are a newbie. I know you've been here a while. Still, you are very much a newbie. You can believe otherwise if you wish, but we can all read you're posts, so trying to convince us otherwise is a bit naive.
And I call bullshit on your "I'll get fired" plea.
So, let me see if I have this right. For your work you are required to visit unmoderated Internet discussion forums. Including ones like MetaFilter which frequently post links generally considered not safe for work. Sites where you know posters will sometimes link to photos of wide gaping anuses. And even though your job duties require you to use such unrestricted sites, you might get fired if the site links to "bad things".
Bullshit. Complete bullshit. You are either a liar or a fool.
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:11 PM on November 19, 2004
And I call bullshit on your "I'll get fired" plea.
So, let me see if I have this right. For your work you are required to visit unmoderated Internet discussion forums. Including ones like MetaFilter which frequently post links generally considered not safe for work. Sites where you know posters will sometimes link to photos of wide gaping anuses. And even though your job duties require you to use such unrestricted sites, you might get fired if the site links to "bad things".
Bullshit. Complete bullshit. You are either a liar or a fool.
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:11 PM on November 19, 2004
MeFi doesn't tolerate goatse postings; end story.
how did you get from here to there? if you're going to spout off, at least pay attention, livii.
konolia's crying about some shit she found on google that she doesn't like. by profound coincidence, she happens to "know" the owner of the domain on which said offensive stuff appeared, "know" in the sense that they are both mefites. and ever since she found that out (because i found it funny and TOLD her) she's been whining about it. for god's sake, it's getting old, and god forbid she ever go accidently clicking on a google listing from one of my stable of domains...
posted by quonsar at 4:18 PM on November 19, 2004
how did you get from here to there? if you're going to spout off, at least pay attention, livii.
konolia's crying about some shit she found on google that she doesn't like. by profound coincidence, she happens to "know" the owner of the domain on which said offensive stuff appeared, "know" in the sense that they are both mefites. and ever since she found that out (because i found it funny and TOLD her) she's been whining about it. for god's sake, it's getting old, and god forbid she ever go accidently clicking on a google listing from one of my stable of domains...
posted by quonsar at 4:18 PM on November 19, 2004
livii, it's not that goatse is or should be cool here. I am just sick to death of "won't somebody think of the children?" in all its manifestations.
Especially when the "children" are adults. Part of what drove me nuts about everyday life in Japan was the cloying nannystate ambient surround; it's worse in America because it has nasty fundamentalist/moralist English on it.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:18 PM on November 19, 2004
Especially when the "children" are adults. Part of what drove me nuts about everyday life in Japan was the cloying nannystate ambient surround; it's worse in America because it has nasty fundamentalist/moralist English on it.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:18 PM on November 19, 2004
"I don't WANT to be exposed to anus. If the link says goatse, I know not to click on it. If it says something else, and I click on it, heck yeah I am gonna be offended."
Please stay in places which are safe. We don't have time to babysit your dumb ass. MetaFilter is a chaotic and creative place. You don't like some people's creativity. Fine. Stay away. Why should we put some sort of parental warning on MetaFilter so that you won't be offended?
Go find a place more suited to your temperament. Stop trying to make MetaFilter "safer".
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:19 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
Please stay in places which are safe. We don't have time to babysit your dumb ass. MetaFilter is a chaotic and creative place. You don't like some people's creativity. Fine. Stay away. Why should we put some sort of parental warning on MetaFilter so that you won't be offended?
Go find a place more suited to your temperament. Stop trying to make MetaFilter "safer".
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:19 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
I don't want to piss on anyone's chips, but it's clearly marked in my diary (in pen) that the shitstorm is on Thursday.
posted by squealy at 4:23 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by squealy at 4:23 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, it's not that I'm certain that I'd get fired. It's that I'm relatively new to my job and don't want to have to do that much explaining to my bosses, who are older and NOT as internet-savvy as the average mefi user, who don't know the extent that the 'net can be misleading.
posted by u.n. owen at 4:25 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by u.n. owen at 4:25 PM on November 19, 2004
Please stay in places which are safe the womb. We don't have time to babysit your dumb ass. Metafilter The world is a chaotic and creative place. You don't like some people's creativity. Fine. Stay away. Why should we put some sort of parental warning on MetaFilter life so that you won't be offended?
posted by quonsar at 4:26 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by quonsar at 4:26 PM on November 19, 2004
u.n. - Have a conversation with them, then, letting them know that proper performance of your job requires a certain degree of acceptance of risk.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:27 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:27 PM on November 19, 2004
I don't WANT to be exposed to anus.
this is genius, I'm not kidding. genius.
the first to manufacture and sell on eBay (or in front of the Capitol/Supreme Court) red-white-blue buttons and stickers with this tagline is going to make some serious money, I tell ya.
posted by matteo at 4:29 PM on November 19, 2004
this is genius, I'm not kidding. genius.
the first to manufacture and sell on eBay (or in front of the Capitol/Supreme Court) red-white-blue buttons and stickers with this tagline is going to make some serious money, I tell ya.
posted by matteo at 4:29 PM on November 19, 2004
adamgreenfield, right now I am trying to reconcile the "cloying nannystate" of Japan with the Japan of bukakke, tentacle porn, "hostess" clubs, and used-panties vending machines.
posted by availablelight at 4:30 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by availablelight at 4:30 PM on November 19, 2004
availablelight: two phrases which will come in handy: "present through its negation," "return of the repressed."
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:33 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:33 PM on November 19, 2004
Quonsar, are you saying grown people do not have the right to choose what they view and when they view it?
Well, you and am got quite the giggle at the fact I clicked on something bearing MY username (actually my grandmother's name) and saw THAT. Whether it was one of you two or someone else, someone deliberately put that pic and what was apparently an innocent link together. That is rude, crude, uncouth, and unacceptable, period. Not to mention unkind. It was a very unkind thing to do. Would you want someone to do that to your mother?
posted by konolia at 4:34 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
Well, you and am got quite the giggle at the fact I clicked on something bearing MY username (actually my grandmother's name) and saw THAT. Whether it was one of you two or someone else, someone deliberately put that pic and what was apparently an innocent link together. That is rude, crude, uncouth, and unacceptable, period. Not to mention unkind. It was a very unkind thing to do. Would you want someone to do that to your mother?
posted by konolia at 4:34 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
My mother remains unafraid of anus.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:35 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:35 PM on November 19, 2004 [1 favorite]
*Realizes that new found ability to post is slightly tarred by loss of ability to sit back, watch MeTa pile-ons and think "Bwahah, I'm not one of them."*
posted by stray at 4:36 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by stray at 4:36 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, what if it were a picture of a decapitated person, or a person who got hit by a train? Replace the anus with any other conceivable objectionable pic. There is a principle here.
posted by konolia at 4:37 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 4:37 PM on November 19, 2004
Quonsar, are you saying grown people do not have the right to choose what they view and when they view it?
not at all. i'm saying i want to forcibly insert you, head first, into that gaping anus with my own two hands, that's all.
posted by quonsar at 4:41 PM on November 19, 2004
You take that back, or I am gonna start spelling your username with a capital Q.
posted by konolia at 4:47 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 4:47 PM on November 19, 2004
Look, try to understand this: I remain unthreatened by images, except as they imply a reality.
Reality is much sadder and scarier to me than images - which, I agree, does not necessarily imply that I want to spend my day looking at motorcycle-crash victims and lime pit exhumations.
Let's reframe this. You should, of course, have the ability to avoid that which repels you, whether or not that repulsion makes any sense. What people are trying to tell you is that you absolutely do *not* have the right to make things "safe" for others, nor do we authorize you to appeal to authority - putatively on our communal behalf - to request such measures as will make you feel safer.
You are already adequately provided with choice - choice that extends to not surfing the Web, not surfing the Web when your impressionable teenagers (!) are around, not surfing MetaFilter, not following links from MetaFilter. You are already empowered. What you choose to do with that power is up to you. But leave me out of it, huh?
On the other general principle involved. For myself, human suffering breaks my heart, and I don't like to see graphic evidence of it. But if I turn away from its representation, I'm only a small step away from denying its existence. And that, in turn, is morally reprehensible.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:50 PM on November 19, 2004
Reality is much sadder and scarier to me than images - which, I agree, does not necessarily imply that I want to spend my day looking at motorcycle-crash victims and lime pit exhumations.
Let's reframe this. You should, of course, have the ability to avoid that which repels you, whether or not that repulsion makes any sense. What people are trying to tell you is that you absolutely do *not* have the right to make things "safe" for others, nor do we authorize you to appeal to authority - putatively on our communal behalf - to request such measures as will make you feel safer.
You are already adequately provided with choice - choice that extends to not surfing the Web, not surfing the Web when your impressionable teenagers (!) are around, not surfing MetaFilter, not following links from MetaFilter. You are already empowered. What you choose to do with that power is up to you. But leave me out of it, huh?
On the other general principle involved. For myself, human suffering breaks my heart, and I don't like to see graphic evidence of it. But if I turn away from its representation, I'm only a small step away from denying its existence. And that, in turn, is morally reprehensible.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:50 PM on November 19, 2004
Would you not agree that you would rather be prepared to view such a picture instead of having it suddenly thrust upon you?
posted by konolia at 4:52 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 4:52 PM on November 19, 2004
adamgreenfield, Japan is a nation of hysterics?
On the other general principle involved. For myself, human suffering breaks my heart, and I don't like to see graphic evidence of it. But if I turn away from its representation, I'm only a small step away from denying its existence. And that, in turn, is morally reprehensible.
It's also has basically nothing to do with the thread up to now.
posted by kenko at 4:55 PM on November 19, 2004
On the other general principle involved. For myself, human suffering breaks my heart, and I don't like to see graphic evidence of it. But if I turn away from its representation, I'm only a small step away from denying its existence. And that, in turn, is morally reprehensible.
It's also has basically nothing to do with the thread up to now.
posted by kenko at 4:55 PM on November 19, 2004
Quonsar, are you saying grown people do not have the right to choose what they view and when they view it?
These eyes, they close?
posted by inpHilltr8r at 4:57 PM on November 19, 2004
These eyes, they close?
posted by inpHilltr8r at 4:57 PM on November 19, 2004
What are you talking about? It's a direct response to konolia.
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:58 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by adamgreenfield at 4:58 PM on November 19, 2004
MetaFilter: I don't WANT to be exposed to anus.
posted by homunculus at 4:58 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by homunculus at 4:58 PM on November 19, 2004
tangent: has it occured to you, konolia, that this is only a problem for you because you have managed to make yourself into enough of an object of attention that your name was worth using as bait?
God knows I've never been fooled by a "cortex" link.
posted by cortex at 4:59 PM on November 19, 2004
God knows I've never been fooled by a "cortex" link.
posted by cortex at 4:59 PM on November 19, 2004
This is a great little bukkake session of emotion, this thread.
posted by angry modem at 5:01 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by angry modem at 5:01 PM on November 19, 2004
wait, a link was posted on the web for the sole purpose of baiting konolia to look at it and was accomplished by using her mom's name bunnyfire{if not bf, how was your mom's name obtained}?
If the above is true; somebody setupthebomb...somebody please
posted by thomcatspike at 5:04 PM on November 19, 2004
If the above is true; somebody setupthebomb...somebody please
posted by thomcatspike at 5:04 PM on November 19, 2004
Cortex, that is immaterial. Besides, with this crowd, never say never.
posted by konolia at 5:04 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 5:04 PM on November 19, 2004
For the record: livii, u.n. owen, and (for the most part) konolia are the voices of reason in this thread. Shock sites that aren't labled as such are not appropriate here ever, free speech doesn't require us to tolerate trolls, and we should try to be considerate of the fact that some people may be reading MetaFilter from work. Labeling just isn't that hard, people.
On a related note: Matt, I emphasize once again that I would pay very good money for killfiles.
posted by gd779 at 5:08 PM on November 19, 2004
On a related note: Matt, I emphasize once again that I would pay very good money for killfiles.
posted by gd779 at 5:08 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, I'm comfortable saying never insofar as I check my urls before clicking and proceed with caution, if at all, towards anything unfamiliar and/or sketchy looking. In the event that I become a recognizable MeFi celebrity (unlikely; I lack the natural charm of the likeable ones, and I lack the bullheaded tenacity of the rest), I'll still probably manage to side-step any shitbomb links because it's second nature to me by now.
And I think it your status is material: you're upset by something that (1) many people seem not to be upset by the notion of and (2) most people aren't in a position to worry about, and yet you're presenting this as a dramatic example of what everybody else should be worrying about.
It just seems pretty damned self-absorbed to me: if you could actually remove yourself from the context of your complaint, the reaction you're getting might strike you as common sense.
posted by cortex at 5:14 PM on November 19, 2004 [2 favorites]
And I think it your status is material: you're upset by something that (1) many people seem not to be upset by the notion of and (2) most people aren't in a position to worry about, and yet you're presenting this as a dramatic example of what everybody else should be worrying about.
It just seems pretty damned self-absorbed to me: if you could actually remove yourself from the context of your complaint, the reaction you're getting might strike you as common sense.
posted by cortex at 5:14 PM on November 19, 2004 [2 favorites]
gd779, I don't think we're talking about something posted here. The only connection this brouhaha has to MetaFilter is that konalia and angry modem are both members.
posted by timeistight at 5:16 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by timeistight at 5:16 PM on November 19, 2004
cortex, the point i am making is appropriate and general-that one should be able to know what one is clicking on linkwise, and that one should be able to choose whether or not to view certain images-or anything for that matter. Mine is not the only case of a link being not what it seemed; and goatse is actually wellknown for turning up in unwanted places, not just on mefi. I doubt that YOU would be the sort of person to do this to someone, but there is a small subset of individuals here who delight in such things. And I am not afraid to let them know what I think.
posted by konolia at 5:21 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 5:21 PM on November 19, 2004
BTW, goatse has been inappropriately linked on metafilter before.
posted by konolia at 5:21 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 5:21 PM on November 19, 2004
Shock sites that aren't labled as such are not appropriate here ever, free speech doesn't require us to tolerate trolls, and we should try to be considerate of the fact that some people may be reading MetaFilter from work.
for the record, none of this occurred on metafilter. dumbass.
posted by quonsar at 5:23 PM on November 19, 2004
for the record, none of this occurred on metafilter. dumbass.
posted by quonsar at 5:23 PM on November 19, 2004
konolia, you're being baited over and over and you're taking the bait each time. Each time you respond, they win - it's a game you can only win if you stop responding on the anus subject - in this thread or anywhere else. By letting it go you retain your principles, you don't give them a reaction and you win. Simple.
posted by ashbury at 5:30 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by ashbury at 5:30 PM on November 19, 2004
So true, so true. *dumps the last of the troll chow*.
posted by konolia at 5:37 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by konolia at 5:37 PM on November 19, 2004
Where can I buy a "But I don't WANT to be exposed to anus" T-shirt or sticker? Maybe with a little ASCII goatse action on the side?
posted by loquacious at 5:38 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by loquacious at 5:38 PM on November 19, 2004
a game you can only win if you stop responding on the anus subject
There's tagline gold in this thread here, people. Gold.
posted by flashboy at 5:40 PM on November 19, 2004
There's tagline gold in this thread here, people. Gold.
posted by flashboy at 5:40 PM on November 19, 2004
gd779, I don't think we're talking about something posted here. The only connection this brouhaha has to MetaFilter is that konalia and angry modem are both members.
I know that. But:
where did you read that MeFi is supposed to be safe for any kind of boob-phobic workplace... if your employer's so cranky, you can also read MeFi from home. - matteo
Go find a place more suited to your temperament. Stop trying to make MetaFilter "safer". - y6y6y6
You people run most of the world already, can't you leave Metafilter well enough alone? - adamgreenfield
Metafilter The world is a chaotic and creative place. You don't like some people's creativity. Fine. Stay away. - quonsar
At some point, a broader debate got started regarding the appropriateness of this sort of action on MetaFilter. And then there's angry modem's profile redirect, which (as I read the thread) was once used to redirect unsuspecting MeFites to tubgirl.
Also, if angry modem will act this way on monkeyfilter, he'll eventually act this way on MetaFilter - so while I don't think he should necessarily be punished for actions taken on another site, I do understand the argument.
posted by gd779 at 5:48 PM on November 19, 2004
I know that. But:
where did you read that MeFi is supposed to be safe for any kind of boob-phobic workplace... if your employer's so cranky, you can also read MeFi from home. - matteo
Go find a place more suited to your temperament. Stop trying to make MetaFilter "safer". - y6y6y6
You people run most of the world already, can't you leave Metafilter well enough alone? - adamgreenfield
At some point, a broader debate got started regarding the appropriateness of this sort of action on MetaFilter. And then there's angry modem's profile redirect, which (as I read the thread) was once used to redirect unsuspecting MeFites to tubgirl.
Also, if angry modem will act this way on monkeyfilter, he'll eventually act this way on MetaFilter - so while I don't think he should necessarily be punished for actions taken on another site, I do understand the argument.
posted by gd779 at 5:48 PM on November 19, 2004
mr.marx, I love you.
posted by soundofsuburbia at 5:51 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by soundofsuburbia at 5:51 PM on November 19, 2004
I've said before that I personally don't have any problem with goatse and I think it's funny that other people do. But, hey, other people do. Other people are deeply offended by it. So, when the whole point is tricking people into seeing something that deeply offends them...that's being a jerk. It's not complicated. The mean-spiritidness of angry_modem doing that to MoFi is appalling, and it's not completely independent of MeFi because he's as much as said that he did it because he wanted to offend MoFi, which he doesn't think much of. MoFi has been much discussed in the past two days, angry_modem signed up at MoFi as angry_modem, at a site similar to MeFi, and posted something there that is explicitly ban-worthy here. Just to piss them off.
On the konolia matter, here we have angry_modem owning the wilwheaton.org domain, and konolia being a very unusual name (google it). And konolia's said she googles for konolia from time to time and likes wilwheaton...lo and behold, someone posts a fake link to goatse on wilwheaton.org. What are the odds?
The issue is being someone who likes to wind people up, has an affinity for scatological and trangressive humor, and is malicious. So he didn't do it here and it's not appropriate or sensible to sanction him here. Makes sense. That doesn't mean people don't have a right to be pissed off at him. He deserves it.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 5:55 PM on November 19, 2004
On the konolia matter, here we have angry_modem owning the wilwheaton.org domain, and konolia being a very unusual name (google it). And konolia's said she googles for konolia from time to time and likes wilwheaton...lo and behold, someone posts a fake link to goatse on wilwheaton.org. What are the odds?
The issue is being someone who likes to wind people up, has an affinity for scatological and trangressive humor, and is malicious. So he didn't do it here and it's not appropriate or sensible to sanction him here. Makes sense. That doesn't mean people don't have a right to be pissed off at him. He deserves it.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 5:55 PM on November 19, 2004
konalia, what are you thinking here? That they are going to say they're sorry and promise never to do it again? That mathowie is going to break out the mighty ban-hammer and pound them into submission? Oh, those bad, bad men.
All your doing is drawing is drawing attention to yourself and setting yourself up for more of the same. Let it rest.
I'm sorry your teenagers may have been threatened by a gaping anus as they walked by... I'm thinking that, unlike myself, you don't have mirrors in the bottom the toilet. That's it. Mirrors in the toilet for all. We'll get over this gaping anus thing right quick.
posted by cedar at 5:58 PM on November 19, 2004
All your doing is drawing is drawing attention to yourself and setting yourself up for more of the same. Let it rest.
I'm sorry your teenagers may have been threatened by a gaping anus as they walked by... I'm thinking that, unlike myself, you don't have mirrors in the bottom the toilet. That's it. Mirrors in the toilet for all. We'll get over this gaping anus thing right quick.
posted by cedar at 5:58 PM on November 19, 2004
fwiw, the link angry modem fp-posted on mofi was not goatse.
it sucked, bad, but it wasn't goatse.
posted by mr.marx at 6:04 PM on November 19, 2004
it sucked, bad, but it wasn't goatse.
posted by mr.marx at 6:04 PM on November 19, 2004
At some point, a broader debate got started regarding the appropriateness of this sort of action on MetaFilter. And then there's angry modem's profile redirect, which (as I read the thread) was once used to redirect unsuspecting MeFites to tubgirl.
Also, if angry modem will act this way on monkeyfilter, he'll eventually act this way on MetaFilter - so while I don't think he should necessarily be punished for actions taken on another site, I do understand the argument.
posted by gd779 at 5:48 PM PST on November 19
The profile did not go to tubgirl. I know you want to sound like someone important here, but you should probably just stuff a sock in it, because you obviously haven't taken time to evaluate what actually is going on if you fucked up a simple fact like that.
If you want to talk about reason, fine, easy enough. Your argument is a pathetic slippery slope.
posted by angry modem at 6:06 PM on November 19, 2004
Also, if angry modem will act this way on monkeyfilter, he'll eventually act this way on MetaFilter - so while I don't think he should necessarily be punished for actions taken on another site, I do understand the argument.
posted by gd779 at 5:48 PM PST on November 19
The profile did not go to tubgirl. I know you want to sound like someone important here, but you should probably just stuff a sock in it, because you obviously haven't taken time to evaluate what actually is going on if you fucked up a simple fact like that.
If you want to talk about reason, fine, easy enough. Your argument is a pathetic slippery slope.
posted by angry modem at 6:06 PM on November 19, 2004
OMG HAX
posted by Pretty_Generic at 6:08 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by Pretty_Generic at 6:08 PM on November 19, 2004
I'm buying myself one of those yellow konolia "no anus" t-shirts
posted by matteo at 6:10 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by matteo at 6:10 PM on November 19, 2004
"the voices of reason in this thread"
Only if you assume that MetaFilter is suppose to be a family safe website. It isn't.
I like my MetaFilter on the "wild west" side of this issue. And it is. Because "we" made it that way. "We" includes you. "We" includes Matt.
There are plenty of places on the net where users will get banned very quickly for doing anything that might let konolia be exposed to a bad picture. This site is not one of those. Matt has accepted ads from sites that are not family friendly. Several people have linked to photos of anuses without being banned. Profanity is common. We talk about sex all the time.
MetaFilter is not a place where you can reasonably expect to avoid anuses. Such an expectation is naive.
posted by y6y6y6 at 6:10 PM on November 19, 2004
Only if you assume that MetaFilter is suppose to be a family safe website. It isn't.
I like my MetaFilter on the "wild west" side of this issue. And it is. Because "we" made it that way. "We" includes you. "We" includes Matt.
There are plenty of places on the net where users will get banned very quickly for doing anything that might let konolia be exposed to a bad picture. This site is not one of those. Matt has accepted ads from sites that are not family friendly. Several people have linked to photos of anuses without being banned. Profanity is common. We talk about sex all the time.
MetaFilter is not a place where you can reasonably expect to avoid anuses. Such an expectation is naive.
posted by y6y6y6 at 6:10 PM on November 19, 2004
Well, this thread has certainly taken an interesting turn.
posted by tommasz at 6:12 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by tommasz at 6:12 PM on November 19, 2004
this thread is on fire!
That's because angry modem is a hottie.
Anus please.
posted by WolfDaddy at 6:15 PM on November 19, 2004
That's because angry modem is a hottie.
Anus please.
posted by WolfDaddy at 6:15 PM on November 19, 2004
Matt has accepted ads from sites that are not family friendly.
And he has denied ads for sites that weren't obviously labled as adult sites. That's the issue here: not that such things are always inappropriate, but that fair warning ought to be given.
Deliberately tricking people into seeing things they don't want to see just because you know it will piss them off is offensive and immature. That's all I'm condemning here.
posted by gd779 at 6:16 PM on November 19, 2004
And he has denied ads for sites that weren't obviously labled as adult sites. That's the issue here: not that such things are always inappropriate, but that fair warning ought to be given.
Deliberately tricking people into seeing things they don't want to see just because you know it will piss them off is offensive and immature. That's all I'm condemning here.
posted by gd779 at 6:16 PM on November 19, 2004
i hear that if you click on www.butidon'twanttobeexposedtoanus.org, you get redirected to a picture of wil wheaton.
posted by quonsar at 6:17 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by quonsar at 6:17 PM on November 19, 2004
wil has really let himself go...
posted by eastlakestandard at 6:20 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by eastlakestandard at 6:20 PM on November 19, 2004
Matt has accepted ads from sites that are not family friendly
I *heart* SuicideGirls...
posted by matteo at 6:37 PM on November 19, 2004
I *heart* SuicideGirls...
posted by matteo at 6:37 PM on November 19, 2004
So this fuckoff backstabbing infantile trainwreck shithouse of a thread is the deliberate, self-parodizing counterpoint to the 'welcome to the new users' lovefest yesterday, right?
I'll assume it is comedy, and give a well-deserved golf clap. 'cause otherwise it's pretty pathetic.
Now leave konolia the fuck alone.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:07 PM on November 19, 2004
I'll assume it is comedy, and give a well-deserved golf clap. 'cause otherwise it's pretty pathetic.
Now leave konolia the fuck alone.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:07 PM on November 19, 2004
"Now leave konolia the fuck alone."
Sure. Just as soon as she stops being such a bunnyfire.
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:14 PM on November 19, 2004
Sure. Just as soon as she stops being such a bunnyfire.
posted by y6y6y6 at 7:14 PM on November 19, 2004
You know what I love about this thread? My partner (refusing for inexplicable reasons to pay the fucking five bucks) keeps trying to get me to post his own comments on this thread and I keep refusing to do it. The heady power of it all!
That alone is priceless. Thank you. Thank you all.
Oh, and the internet is never SWF.
posted by idest at 7:20 PM on November 19, 2004
That alone is priceless. Thank you. Thank you all.
Oh, and the internet is never SWF.
posted by idest at 7:20 PM on November 19, 2004
Now leave konolia the fuck alone.
more like 'stop hitting yourself konolia, stop hitting yourself'
posted by angry modem at 7:35 PM on November 19, 2004
more like 'stop hitting yourself konolia, stop hitting yourself'
posted by angry modem at 7:35 PM on November 19, 2004
I read this entire thread, and my brain feels like it's oozing out of my ears.
First of all, I am horrified that two important taboos have been broken--we are Never, Ever supposed to mention the Site That Dares Not Speak Its Name ("tiny chartreuse rugbys"), and I thought we were equally Forbidden from making the konolia-b*nnyf*re link? I am worried, my brothers and sisters. Worried that the Volcano Gods will be angry because we have broken these powerful taboos. Now we must sacrifice a virgin.
And, seriously, I hate to be surprised by goatse as much as the next person, but WTF is all of this drama about something that didn't even happen here, but over at MonkeyFilter, which is perfectly able to do its own disciplining?!?!?!?!?!?!
if angry modem will act this way on monkeyfilter, he'll eventually act this way on MetaFilter...
gd779, were you the nun who taught me third-grade math? "Because a girl who will chew gum will smoke, and a girl who will smoke will drink beer, and a girl who drinks beer will get drunk, and we all know what that leads to..."
posted by Sidhedevil at 7:38 PM on November 19, 2004
First of all, I am horrified that two important taboos have been broken--we are Never, Ever supposed to mention the Site That Dares Not Speak Its Name ("tiny chartreuse rugbys"), and I thought we were equally Forbidden from making the konolia-b*nnyf*re link? I am worried, my brothers and sisters. Worried that the Volcano Gods will be angry because we have broken these powerful taboos. Now we must sacrifice a virgin.
And, seriously, I hate to be surprised by goatse as much as the next person, but WTF is all of this drama about something that didn't even happen here, but over at MonkeyFilter, which is perfectly able to do its own disciplining?!?!?!?!?!?!
if angry modem will act this way on monkeyfilter, he'll eventually act this way on MetaFilter...
gd779, were you the nun who taught me third-grade math? "Because a girl who will chew gum will smoke, and a girl who will smoke will drink beer, and a girl who drinks beer will get drunk, and we all know what that leads to..."
posted by Sidhedevil at 7:38 PM on November 19, 2004
I think it's telling that mathowie hasn't posted in this thread, personally. Grow up, y'all. Especially angrymodem.
posted by SpecialK at 8:00 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by SpecialK at 8:00 PM on November 19, 2004
This thread was started by someone worried about another user's page at metafilter. It was not started about the monkeyfilter post (though that was brought up to explain why the user page was being looked at in the first place). We have now established that the account was not hacked, and that the user is simply deeply immature and disrespectful to the webspace of others.
The rest of the thread after that was established (including this comment) is useless bickering, which is not doing much to support the defense of metafilter I was trying to make elsewhere today.
posted by jb at 8:01 PM on November 19, 2004
The rest of the thread after that was established (including this comment) is useless bickering, which is not doing much to support the defense of metafilter I was trying to make elsewhere today.
posted by jb at 8:01 PM on November 19, 2004
This thread is a gaping anus that shitfountains all over the tub of the Internet.
And I'm not cleaning that tub.
posted by dirigibleman at 8:02 PM on November 19, 2004
And I'm not cleaning that tub.
posted by dirigibleman at 8:02 PM on November 19, 2004
a gaping anus that shitfountains all over the tub of the Internet.
*swoons*
posted by quonsar at 8:09 PM on November 19, 2004
*swoons*
posted by quonsar at 8:09 PM on November 19, 2004
"which is not doing much to support the defense of metafilter I was trying to make elsewhere today."
There are 6 billion people in the world. Rather than make MetaFilter something at least 3 billion of them will want to participate in, how about if we embrace the 20K and growing who like it already? Matt is making good money on the people hoping to someday be able to participate, who now can.
MetaFilter isn't for everyone. That's a good thing. People shouldn't be here because they need a friend or a place to chat. They should be here because they like MetaFilter.
Defending MetaFilter misses the point. It's not for everyone.
posted by y6y6y6 at 8:15 PM on November 19, 2004
There are 6 billion people in the world. Rather than make MetaFilter something at least 3 billion of them will want to participate in, how about if we embrace the 20K and growing who like it already? Matt is making good money on the people hoping to someday be able to participate, who now can.
MetaFilter isn't for everyone. That's a good thing. People shouldn't be here because they need a friend or a place to chat. They should be here because they like MetaFilter.
Defending MetaFilter misses the point. It's not for everyone.
posted by y6y6y6 at 8:15 PM on November 19, 2004
They should be here because they like MetaFilter.
And not because they like anusfilter.
posted by wendell at 8:21 PM on November 19, 2004
And not because they like anusfilter.
posted by wendell at 8:21 PM on November 19, 2004
Aww, come on guys. Huggles!
posted by A fistful of pancakes at 8:38 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by A fistful of pancakes at 8:38 PM on November 19, 2004
What y6 said. We've seen enough lately of what you get when you pander to the lowest common denominator.
posted by rushmc at 8:40 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by rushmc at 8:40 PM on November 19, 2004
No, we should aspire to the highest common denominator and angry modem's antics are the lowest here.
What do you expect of somebody who shows off such a pathetic jealousy of Wil Wheaton?
posted by wendell at 8:49 PM on November 19, 2004
What do you expect of somebody who shows off such a pathetic jealousy of Wil Wheaton?
posted by wendell at 8:49 PM on November 19, 2004
So this fuckoff backstabbing infantile trainwreck shithouse of a thread is the deliberate,
note to the new members: when the megachicken is in cranky mode, you'd better leave him alone in his megacoop
on the other hand, I only show off a pathetic jealousy of wendell
posted by matteo at 8:52 PM on November 19, 2004
note to the new members: when the megachicken is in cranky mode, you'd better leave him alone in his megacoop
on the other hand, I only show off a pathetic jealousy of wendell
posted by matteo at 8:52 PM on November 19, 2004
it's funny if you put the emphasis on different parts of the sentence:
I don't WANT to be exposed to anus
I DON"T want to be exposed to anus
I don't want to be EXPOSED to anus
I don't want to be exposed to ANUS
(for the best effect, read in the voice of Edith Bunker)
posted by danny boy at 8:57 PM on November 19, 2004
I don't WANT to be exposed to anus
I DON"T want to be exposed to anus
I don't want to be EXPOSED to anus
I don't want to be exposed to ANUS
(for the best effect, read in the voice of Edith Bunker)
posted by danny boy at 8:57 PM on November 19, 2004
Having never heard of goatse until I started lurking at MeFi several months ago, I got curious and sought it out here at home, where there'd be no consequences.
Getting it unawares at work, with booming audio and with a web reproduction-upon-reproduction that I couldn't control, made me scared for my job. Sure I spend work time goofing around on the internet. But what angry modem pulled at MoFi was hostile - I can't imagine what more general (i.e. not directed at one user) move could be more hostile.
I paid my money and joined MeFi anyway, where angry modem may be a member in good standing. Joining was only five dollars; the site's earned that from my lurking; and there's no point in punishing MeFi just because one of the members has shown himself to be a definition of The Consummate and Unrepentant Internet Shithead.
posted by goofyfoot at 8:59 PM on November 19, 2004
Getting it unawares at work, with booming audio and with a web reproduction-upon-reproduction that I couldn't control, made me scared for my job. Sure I spend work time goofing around on the internet. But what angry modem pulled at MoFi was hostile - I can't imagine what more general (i.e. not directed at one user) move could be more hostile.
I paid my money and joined MeFi anyway, where angry modem may be a member in good standing. Joining was only five dollars; the site's earned that from my lurking; and there's no point in punishing MeFi just because one of the members has shown himself to be a definition of The Consummate and Unrepentant Internet Shithead.
posted by goofyfoot at 8:59 PM on November 19, 2004
"it's funny if you put the emphasis on different parts of the sentence"
I don't want TO be exposed TO anus.
Not funny, sorry.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:09 PM on November 19, 2004
I don't want TO be exposed TO anus.
Not funny, sorry.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:09 PM on November 19, 2004
this fuckoff backstabbing infantile trainwreck shithouse of a thread
stavros hit the nail on the head. Good work, angry modem, this will clinch your spot in the Troll Hall of Fame.
posted by soyjoy at 9:18 PM on November 19, 2004
stavros hit the nail on the head. Good work, angry modem, this will clinch your spot in the Troll Hall of Fame.
posted by soyjoy at 9:18 PM on November 19, 2004
Hey! That's *our* Consummate and Unrepentant Internet Shithead.
Look. People.
MetaFilter is quansar and bunnyfire and mathowie and wendell and fff and 111 and........
It's a lot of things. All of these people couldn't like it as much as they do, as different as they are, if it wasn't, at the end of the day, wonderful.
MetaFilter- We like it.
Get fuckwits? We like it.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:20 PM on November 19, 2004
Look. People.
MetaFilter is quansar and bunnyfire and mathowie and wendell and fff and 111 and........
It's a lot of things. All of these people couldn't like it as much as they do, as different as they are, if it wasn't, at the end of the day, wonderful.
MetaFilter- We like it.
Get fuckwits? We like it.
posted by y6y6y6 at 9:20 PM on November 19, 2004
MetaFilter is quansar and bunnyfire and mathowie and wendell and fff and 111 and........
And I am honored to be included in a list with two banninated accounts, an abbreviation and a mispelling.
No, honestly. Not sarcastic. I consider myself lucky to be grouped in with anybody as long as it's not in a holding cell.
posted by wendell at 9:30 PM on November 19, 2004
And I am honored to be included in a list with two banninated accounts, an abbreviation and a mispelling.
No, honestly. Not sarcastic. I consider myself lucky to be grouped in with anybody as long as it's not in a holding cell.
posted by wendell at 9:30 PM on November 19, 2004
No, I think it's nice that you like your unrepentant internet shitheads. You've got a fine family feeling, and the fact that this particular shithead chose his moment when Monkeyfilterheads joined (not en masse, but with alacrity) to get attention to himself means he's all about choosing his moments.
I joined anyway, which means he's my shithead too.
posted by goofyfoot at 9:40 PM on November 19, 2004
I joined anyway, which means he's my shithead too.
posted by goofyfoot at 9:40 PM on November 19, 2004
For the sake of historical record
Q: How long did it take for the verterans vs n00bz thing to descend into mere snark on Metafilter?
Holy mother of god. It's official, even though I was kind of worried about ponying (heh) up the dough for a couple of high ticket servers, I made enough money off the $5 signups today to pay for one year's hosting. So I want to say thanks to all the new users for ensuring the future of this place. I love ya. Some more news inside
posted by mathowie to MetaFilter-related at 11:42 PM PST - 67 comments
a hands down cock, a real shithead, the kind of bad citizen that makes the online environment a less fun place to be
good god, the pompous, pious posturing of the n00bz is really kind of amusing, wot?
posted by quonsar at 3:26 PM PST on November 19
A: about 15-16 hours.
Whatever, sweet li'l Quonsie, I'm willing to guess I've been bumbling around on ye olde internette as long as most, even if I failed to join the Metafilter club before it became technically impossible for a good long time. I'm happy to be panned as a neophyte for the modest price of admission. And the thing is: I'm still right, as far as I can see (and barring any actual debate to the contrary), call it what you will. I've also got as thick a skin as anyone, I have no desire for things to become more regulated - how else could I continue to call it as I see it? I been slagged off by Quonsar, Ma, it's like I'm a real honest Mefite now! But I think I'll bow out of this pointless discussion, nonetheless.
posted by nanojath at 10:30 PM on November 19, 2004
Q: How long did it take for the verterans vs n00bz thing to descend into mere snark on Metafilter?
Holy mother of god. It's official, even though I was kind of worried about ponying (heh) up the dough for a couple of high ticket servers, I made enough money off the $5 signups today to pay for one year's hosting. So I want to say thanks to all the new users for ensuring the future of this place. I love ya. Some more news inside
posted by mathowie to MetaFilter-related at 11:42 PM PST - 67 comments
a hands down cock, a real shithead, the kind of bad citizen that makes the online environment a less fun place to be
good god, the pompous, pious posturing of the n00bz is really kind of amusing, wot?
posted by quonsar at 3:26 PM PST on November 19
A: about 15-16 hours.
Whatever, sweet li'l Quonsie, I'm willing to guess I've been bumbling around on ye olde internette as long as most, even if I failed to join the Metafilter club before it became technically impossible for a good long time. I'm happy to be panned as a neophyte for the modest price of admission. And the thing is: I'm still right, as far as I can see (and barring any actual debate to the contrary), call it what you will. I've also got as thick a skin as anyone, I have no desire for things to become more regulated - how else could I continue to call it as I see it? I been slagged off by Quonsar, Ma, it's like I'm a real honest Mefite now! But I think I'll bow out of this pointless discussion, nonetheless.
posted by nanojath at 10:30 PM on November 19, 2004
good god, the pompous, pious posturing of the n00bz is really kind of amusing, wot?
posted by quonsar at 10:32 PM on November 19, 2004
posted by quonsar at 10:32 PM on November 19, 2004
"A: about 15-16 hours."
1) quonsar doesn't count. So don't bother going there.
2) Don't post drunk. M'kay?
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:43 PM on November 19, 2004
1) quonsar doesn't count. So don't bother going there.
2) Don't post drunk. M'kay?
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:43 PM on November 19, 2004
good god, the porous, prostrate posturing of the q has always been kind of amusing, wot?
Don't drost punk. MaryKay?
Consider yourself honored, nanojath, it took me months to get quonsared as thoroughly as you have in 15-16 hours. Unfortunatly, as an honor, it ranks about the same as winning a Vibe Award. Now please stop interrupting my efforts to reductio ad absurdum this thread... Thank you.
Because, even for $1.95 at GoDaddy, nobody will EVER want to register DEREKARNOLD.INFO
posted by wendell at 11:28 PM on November 19, 2004
Don't drost punk. MaryKay?
Consider yourself honored, nanojath, it took me months to get quonsared as thoroughly as you have in 15-16 hours. Unfortunatly, as an honor, it ranks about the same as winning a Vibe Award. Now please stop interrupting my efforts to reductio ad absurdum this thread... Thank you.
Because, even for $1.95 at GoDaddy, nobody will EVER want to register DEREKARNOLD.INFO
posted by wendell at 11:28 PM on November 19, 2004
Heh. n00bz.
posted by eyeballkid at 12:24 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by eyeballkid at 12:24 AM on November 20, 2004
Five bucks. A bucket splash of tapeworms. Egg-sucking grins. Sperm. Fuckluckers. MeFi's swelling belly. A stranger's hands on Her code. Baby Yahoo. Blind rabbits chewing the poisoned umbilical cord.
Haw-yee.
(Venomous Friday Night)
posted by Opus Dark at 1:14 AM on November 20, 2004
Haw-yee.
(Venomous Friday Night)
posted by Opus Dark at 1:14 AM on November 20, 2004
nanojath: respect!
quonsar: old and busted / got nothin / schooled by a n00b
LOL
posted by scarabic at 1:35 AM on November 20, 2004
quonsar: old and busted / got nothin / schooled by a n00b
LOL
posted by scarabic at 1:35 AM on November 20, 2004
The Disjoined (and Often Post Mortem) MetaFilter Dot
The Disjoined Dot is a point-source shot of reverse ekphrasis with an intuitive referential chaser; it is very nearly (sort of) a natural sign, and maybe it (kind of) would be a (sort of) natural sign if soggy wet ashes would stop asking what the fuck it means; if you (kind of) can't connect the transcendent (sort of) Dots - then maybe you (kind of) suck and you (sort of) shouldn't be here.
I'm not drunk. Drugs have, however, forced my normality into remission, and I'm donating my temporary super-powers to wendell, who is doing a piss-poor job of absurding.
g'night.
posted by Opus Dark at 1:40 AM on November 20, 2004
The Disjoined Dot is a point-source shot of reverse ekphrasis with an intuitive referential chaser; it is very nearly (sort of) a natural sign, and maybe it (kind of) would be a (sort of) natural sign if soggy wet ashes would stop asking what the fuck it means; if you (kind of) can't connect the transcendent (sort of) Dots - then maybe you (kind of) suck and you (sort of) shouldn't be here.
I'm not drunk. Drugs have, however, forced my normality into remission, and I'm donating my temporary super-powers to wendell, who is doing a piss-poor job of absurding.
g'night.
posted by Opus Dark at 1:40 AM on November 20, 2004
I am SOOOO going to pay $5 to get in on this action. You should all take a step back and look at yourselves (those with any amount of morality, that is). Those of you defending Angry Modem are pathetic. I hope you're the death of MetaFilter, because, really, the world would be a better place without it.
posted by dayvin at 2:11 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by dayvin at 2:11 AM on November 20, 2004
OMG IT'S THE DEATH OF METAFILTER. WHAT TEH FUCK ARE WE GOING TO DODOODODOD?
Please.
posted by eyeballkid at 2:40 AM on November 20, 2004
Please.
posted by eyeballkid at 2:40 AM on November 20, 2004
Wait. I forgot something.
FUCKWAD.
That's better.
posted by eyeballkid at 2:45 AM on November 20, 2004
FUCKWAD.
That's better.
posted by eyeballkid at 2:45 AM on November 20, 2004
Snark, snark, snark, snark, fuckwad, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, fuck off, snark, snark, snark, snark, asshole, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark, snark.
That's all that's ever posted any more. You're boring.
posted by dayvin at 3:19 AM on November 20, 2004
That's all that's ever posted any more. You're boring.
posted by dayvin at 3:19 AM on November 20, 2004
*pokes head around corner of door*
Well, I see nothing of substance has changed in my absence. Oh wait, fresh blood you say?
*prepares sacrificial altar, waits for virgin*
*keeps waiting*
*keeps waiting*
posted by dg at 3:22 AM on November 20, 2004
Well, I see nothing of substance has changed in my absence. Oh wait, fresh blood you say?
*prepares sacrificial altar, waits for virgin*
*keeps waiting*
*keeps waiting*
posted by dg at 3:22 AM on November 20, 2004
for once, what EB said
I've said before that I personally don't have any problem with goatse and I think it's funny that other people do. But, hey, other people do. Other people are deeply offended by it. So, when the whole point is tricking people into seeing something that deeply offends them...that's being a jerk. It's not complicated. The mean-spiritidness of angry_modem doing that to MoFi is appalling, and it's not completely independent of MeFi because he's as much as said that he did it because he wanted to offend MoFi, which he doesn't think much of. MoFi has been much discussed in the past two days, angry_modem signed up at MoFi as angry_modem, at a site similar to MeFi, and posted something there that is explicitly ban-worthy here. Just to piss them off.posted by andrew cooke at 3:51 AM on November 20, 2004
On the konolia matter, here we have angry_modem owning the wilwheaton.org domain, and konolia being a very unusual name (google it). And konolia's said she googles for konolia from time to time and likes wilwheaton...lo and behold, someone posts a fake link to goatse on wilwheaton.org. What are the odds?
The issue is being someone who likes to wind people up, has an affinity for scatological and trangressive humor, and is malicious. So he didn't do it here and it's not appropriate or sensible to sanction him here. Makes sense. That doesn't mean people don't have a right to be pissed off at him. He deserves it
On the anus issue, how about a compromise position? I believe it should be my right to choose which specific anuses I am exposed to, within an open and free marketplace of anuses.
I think we can all get behind that. As it were.
posted by flashboy at 5:59 AM on November 20, 2004
I think we can all get behind that. As it were.
posted by flashboy at 5:59 AM on November 20, 2004
quonsar: "angry modem is a gangster!"
angry modem: "I told you I was hardcore."
angry modem: "fuck you"
angry modem: "pusys"
angry modem: "ggrgrlbftssssh........."
quonsar: "angry modem is a gangster!"
posted by taz at 8:40 AM on November 20, 2004
angry modem: "I told you I was hardcore."
angry modem: "fuck you"
angry modem: "pusys"
angry modem: "ggrgrlbftssssh........."
quonsar: "angry modem is a gangster!"
posted by taz at 8:40 AM on November 20, 2004
good god, the pompous, pious posturing of mefites is really kind of amusing, wot?
posted by quonsar at 8:57 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by quonsar at 8:57 AM on November 20, 2004
I didn't read all these words but I'm pretty sure angry modem is awesome and if he wants to post gaping anuses then we can probably just rest assured that it is in our best interests to see gaping anuses. Now more than ever.
posted by moift at 8:57 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by moift at 8:57 AM on November 20, 2004
This whole thread is like a diamond. Flawless in every detail - crystal clear in the way it splits the light of metafilter users into a spectrum of idiots, sycophants, and people with a sense of fucking humor.
posted by Ryvar at 9:15 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by Ryvar at 9:15 AM on November 20, 2004
Dear Mom,
....I seem to be be forgetting something.
love,
Jacob Marley
posted by clavdivs at 9:21 AM on November 20, 2004
....I seem to be be forgetting something.
love,
Jacob Marley
posted by clavdivs at 9:21 AM on November 20, 2004
On the anus issue, how about a compromise position?
You'll never get the Repubelickins to go for that, unless the position is missionary...
posted by rushmc at 9:38 AM on November 20, 2004
You'll never get the Repubelickins to go for that, unless the position is missionary...
posted by rushmc at 9:38 AM on November 20, 2004
This is easily the best and worst MeTa thread I've ever read.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 11:01 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by Optimus Chyme at 11:01 AM on November 20, 2004
Shut up quonsar.
posted by your mother at 11:31 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by your mother at 11:31 AM on November 20, 2004
This is the best lesson for new users that could possibly be posted.
posted by darukaru at 11:32 AM on November 20, 2004
posted by darukaru at 11:32 AM on November 20, 2004
darukaru, as one of those "new users", what lesson should I be taking from this, other than
"this is how to pull off the best. troll. evar."
?
posted by aberrant at 11:47 AM on November 20, 2004
"this is how to pull off the best. troll. evar."
?
posted by aberrant at 11:47 AM on November 20, 2004
That doesn't mean people don't have a right to be pissed off at him. He deserves it
I'm trying to figure out what the stunning revelation is in this statement.
posted by angry modem at 1:40 PM on November 20, 2004
I'm trying to figure out what the stunning revelation is in this statement.
posted by angry modem at 1:40 PM on November 20, 2004
Those of you defending Angry Modem are pathetic
i can't see where anyone is expressly defending him... issue was taken with the complaints & demands being made, because they were absurd and reactionary - asking for someone to be banned for misbehaving at another site, or for behaviour they have the potential to commit in some nebulous future, demanding we all be responsible for people's workplace surfing safety. that so many of you are only able to manage a derek bad, hulk angry response is kind of disturbing. is everyone just playing dumb because they'd rather pitch a fit and blow off some steam, or what...?
Tubgirl must go through a lot of Comet.
no shit !
posted by t r a c y at 2:45 PM on November 20, 2004
i can't see where anyone is expressly defending him... issue was taken with the complaints & demands being made, because they were absurd and reactionary - asking for someone to be banned for misbehaving at another site, or for behaviour they have the potential to commit in some nebulous future, demanding we all be responsible for people's workplace surfing safety. that so many of you are only able to manage a derek bad, hulk angry response is kind of disturbing. is everyone just playing dumb because they'd rather pitch a fit and blow off some steam, or what...?
Tubgirl must go through a lot of Comet.
no shit !
posted by t r a c y at 2:45 PM on November 20, 2004
Metafilter: for best effect, read in the voice of Edith Bunker.
posted by rajbot at 3:39 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by rajbot at 3:39 PM on November 20, 2004
angry modem is just plain retarded. simple. End of discussion.
posted by Debaser626 at 4:10 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by Debaser626 at 4:10 PM on November 20, 2004
and his retardation served to expose a lot of other retards too. browser redirect == h@x0rz alone was worth the price of admission. by the way, better duck - the retard anti-defamation lobby is girding its loins and preparing to do some debasing of it's own...
posted by quonsar at 4:17 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by quonsar at 4:17 PM on November 20, 2004
Using "retarded" as an insult is offensive to actual retarded people. Let's not have that thread again, or the fuckin' retards will be crawling out of the woodwork.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:18 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:18 PM on November 20, 2004
RETARD!!!!
posted by angry modem at 4:31 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by angry modem at 4:31 PM on November 20, 2004
You ever notice when someone says "End of discussion" or "End of story," it never, ever actually is?
posted by chicobangs at 4:36 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by chicobangs at 4:36 PM on November 20, 2004
My next PhD thesis is going to be on self-negating statements: "I'm just saying", "End of discussion", "I don't mean to be a -----, but....".
posted by gleuschk at 5:12 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by gleuschk at 5:12 PM on November 20, 2004
It's the thread that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends...
And since I'm the retard who assumed the clumsy redirect was courtesy of someone other than the owner, I'm tickled pink I could make the entertainment such value for money.
posted by tommasz at 5:16 PM on November 20, 2004
And since I'm the retard who assumed the clumsy redirect was courtesy of someone other than the owner, I'm tickled pink I could make the entertainment such value for money.
posted by tommasz at 5:16 PM on November 20, 2004
Debaser626 - So people who piss you off are retarded? Really cool dude. Thanks for setting a good example.
posted by y6y6y6 at 5:42 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by y6y6y6 at 5:42 PM on November 20, 2004
I really hope Matt can laugh at this.
All the way to the bank.
This thread serves a valuable purpose in keeping both the assholes and the anal retentives occupied so that they have less time to pollute other parts of the 'Filter.
I AM EGO, THE LIVING PLANET
And is anybody in their right mind ever going to click on a link posted by anusy modem again?? Now, that would be serious evidence of a learning disability!
And here's the latest from the cool kids in 5th grade:
OUT: retard
IN: gay.
posted by wendell at 6:28 PM on November 20, 2004
All the way to the bank.
This thread serves a valuable purpose in keeping both the assholes and the anal retentives occupied so that they have less time to pollute other parts of the 'Filter.
I AM EGO, THE LIVING PLANET
And is anybody in their right mind ever going to click on a link posted by anusy modem again?? Now, that would be serious evidence of a learning disability!
And here's the latest from the cool kids in 5th grade:
OUT: retard
IN: gay.
posted by wendell at 6:28 PM on November 20, 2004
replying again because I feel a compulsion to continue the thread
posted by angry modem at 6:41 PM on November 20, 2004
posted by angry modem at 6:41 PM on November 20, 2004
CITY OF BLINDING LIGHTS
The more you see the less you know
The less you find out as you go
I knew much more then than I do now
Neon heart dayglo eyes
A city lit by fireflies
They’re advertising in the skies
For people like us
And I miss you when you’re not around
I’m getting ready to leave the ground….
Ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
Don’t look before you laugh
Look ugly in a photograph
Flash bulbs purple irises
The camera can’t see
I’ve seen you walk unafraid
I’ve seen you in the clothes you made
Can you see the beauty inside of me?
What happened to the beauty I had inside of me?
And I miss you when you’re not around
I’m getting ready to leave the ground
Ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
Time… time
Won’t leave me as I am
But time won’t take the boy out of this man
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
The more you know the less you feel
Some pray for others steal
Blessings are not just for the ones who kneel… luckily
posted by bargle at 6:48 PM on November 20, 2004
The more you see the less you know
The less you find out as you go
I knew much more then than I do now
Neon heart dayglo eyes
A city lit by fireflies
They’re advertising in the skies
For people like us
And I miss you when you’re not around
I’m getting ready to leave the ground….
Ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
Don’t look before you laugh
Look ugly in a photograph
Flash bulbs purple irises
The camera can’t see
I’ve seen you walk unafraid
I’ve seen you in the clothes you made
Can you see the beauty inside of me?
What happened to the beauty I had inside of me?
And I miss you when you’re not around
I’m getting ready to leave the ground
Ooh ooh ooh
Ooh ooh ooh
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
Time… time
Won’t leave me as I am
But time won’t take the boy out of this man
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights
The more you know the less you feel
Some pray for others steal
Blessings are not just for the ones who kneel… luckily
posted by bargle at 6:48 PM on November 20, 2004
And here's the latest from the cool kids in 5th grade:
OUT: retard
IN: gay
I hear rumblings that "Democrat" is about to become really, really big...
posted by rushmc at 8:22 PM on November 20, 2004
OUT: retard
IN: gay
I hear rumblings that "Democrat" is about to become really, really big...
posted by rushmc at 8:22 PM on November 20, 2004
Goodness me, what a thread! I can't actually remember what it's all about now I've made it down here to the depths, but, really, who gives a gaping anus?
posted by jack_mo at 7:24 AM on November 21, 2004
posted by jack_mo at 7:24 AM on November 21, 2004
To paraphrase Groucho, Outside of a gaping anus, a book is mans best friend.
Wait for it...
Because inside a gaping anus it's too dark to read. Thank you. I'll be here all week.
posted by cedar at 9:54 AM on November 21, 2004
Wait for it...
Because inside a gaping anus it's too dark to read. Thank you. I'll be here all week.
posted by cedar at 9:54 AM on November 21, 2004
Did I Ever tell you about the man who taught his asshole to talk?
by William S. Burroughs
Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his ass to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I had ever heard.
"This ass talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell.
"This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called "The Better 'Ole' that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, "Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?'
"'Nah! I had to go relieve myself.'
"After a while the ass start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his ass would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time.
"Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in- curving hooks and start eating. He thought this was cute at first and built and act around it, but the asshole would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the asshole said to him: 'It's you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we don't need you around here any more. I can talk and eat AND shit.'
"After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole's tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous- except for the EYES you dig. That's one thing the asshole COULDN'T do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn't give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes WENT OUT, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab's eyes on the end of a stalk.
posted by angry modem at 10:06 AM on November 21, 2004
by William S. Burroughs
Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his ass to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I had ever heard.
"This ass talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell.
"This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called "The Better 'Ole' that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, "Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?'
"'Nah! I had to go relieve myself.'
"After a while the ass start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his ass would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time.
"Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in- curving hooks and start eating. He thought this was cute at first and built and act around it, but the asshole would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the asshole said to him: 'It's you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we don't need you around here any more. I can talk and eat AND shit.'
"After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole's tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous- except for the EYES you dig. That's one thing the asshole COULDN'T do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn't give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes WENT OUT, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab's eyes on the end of a stalk.
posted by angry modem at 10:06 AM on November 21, 2004
Could there be a more fitting end to this thread?
/rhetorical question, does not need a reply!
posted by dash_slot- at 11:40 AM on November 21, 2004
/rhetorical question, does not need a reply!
posted by dash_slot- at 11:40 AM on November 21, 2004
Hitler had a rectum.
Therefore, I invoke Godwin.
Last one out, hit the lights, willya?
posted by konolia at 12:13 PM on November 21, 2004
Therefore, I invoke Godwin.
Last one out, hit the lights, willya?
posted by konolia at 12:13 PM on November 21, 2004
mmkay.
posted by codeofconduct at 12:34 PM on November 21, 2004
posted by codeofconduct at 12:34 PM on November 21, 2004
Would you want someone to do that to your mother?
Metafilter: Please, think of the mothers.
posted by milovoo at 1:08 PM on November 21, 2004
Metafilter: Please, think of the mothers.
posted by milovoo at 1:08 PM on November 21, 2004
Would you want someone to do that to your mother?
Absolutely. She could use a little direct, visual confrontation with the real world.
posted by Ryvar at 1:37 PM on November 21, 2004
Absolutely. She could use a little direct, visual confrontation with the real world.
posted by Ryvar at 1:37 PM on November 21, 2004
I thought you had to be toilet trained to post on Mefi.
posted by konolia at 2:46 PM on November 21, 2004
posted by konolia at 2:46 PM on November 21, 2004
Why oh why would you ever think that??
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:50 PM on November 21, 2004
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 2:50 PM on November 21, 2004
Can we please push this to 300?
posted by angry modem at 8:36 PM on November 21, 2004
posted by angry modem at 8:36 PM on November 21, 2004
Here's a summary for those of you coming late to the thread:
angry modem was Chinese and hacked himself. Then konolia, got entrapped by Wesley Willis and exposed his anus, which scared adamgreenfield's mother. MetaFilter was almost over. More recently other member's mothers have been appearing only for quonsar for relieve himself on them, likely due to chemical imbalances. Which brings us to the present, where angry modem is back trying to extend the life of this thread by making the sound of one anus gaping.
posted by mexican at 12:25 AM on November 22, 2004 [2 favorites]
angry modem was Chinese and hacked himself. Then konolia, got entrapped by Wesley Willis and exposed his anus, which scared adamgreenfield's mother. MetaFilter was almost over. More recently other member's mothers have been appearing only for quonsar for relieve himself on them, likely due to chemical imbalances. Which brings us to the present, where angry modem is back trying to extend the life of this thread by making the sound of one anus gaping.
posted by mexican at 12:25 AM on November 22, 2004 [2 favorites]
I just like the fact your username is 'mexican'.
posted by angry modem at 7:31 AM on November 22, 2004
posted by angry modem at 7:31 AM on November 22, 2004
Helpful Hint:
If you make tiny paper hats with different names on them, the entire thread above can be acted out using only one Rockem' Sockem' Robots set.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:08 PM on November 22, 2004
If you make tiny paper hats with different names on them, the entire thread above can be acted out using only one Rockem' Sockem' Robots set.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 7:08 PM on November 22, 2004
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posted by danOstuporStar at 11:37 AM on November 19, 2004