Brainstorming via AskMe is ChatFilter

July 25, 2006 11:53 PM

ChatFilter? I'm brainstorming a novelty recipe book for a friend. Meh.
posted by sjvilla79 to Etiquette/Policy at 11:53 PM (29 comments total)

You should have said that. Not that I'm any expert on whether that would have saved it or not, but it makes it more palatable... ;)

mullacc continued it at MetaChat...
posted by iconomy at 12:01 AM on July 26, 2006

Jessamyn is posting in that thread? Just waiting for Matt's post now.
posted by sjvilla79 at 12:12 AM on July 26, 2006

Once again, phrasing is everything with these admins. I swear you could find a way to ask people to index their favorite colors against their favorite type of underwear and it would stay up as long as it was phrased properly.
posted by scarabic at 12:17 AM on July 26, 2006

Jessamyn is posting in that thread? Just waiting for Matt's post now.

Jessamyn didn't delete it because she didn't like it. She deleted it because it broke the rules (according to current interpretation). MeCha has no similar rule, so why shouldn't she post?
posted by mullacc at 12:27 AM on July 26, 2006

"Once again, phrasing is everything with these admins."

It's called a "generalization". It's a useful concept, you should try it. For example, if it looks like chatfilter, it probably is. It may not be—but because there's limited information and the whole thing is ambiguous, then going on appearances is the only useful tool available. People could intentionally subvert the generalizations the admins make as in your example. if a whole bunch of people did that, then the generalization wouldn't be useful any more. We can cross that bridge when we get to it. If we get to it, which we won't.
posted by Ethereal Bligh at 12:39 AM on July 26, 2006

People pretty much said what I would have said. sjvilla79, I specifically checked with mathowie "Is this chatfilter?" because I knew you'd bring it to MetaTalk. It's a great post for MetaChat and it probably should have gone there in the first place.

phrasing is everything with these admins

People bitched about not having guidelines. Now we have them. As EB says, if tons of people start actively trying to subvert them, we'll write new ones. As it is the chatfilter guidelines are already pretty extensive, we're trying pretty hard not to be whimsical or mercurial.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:59 AM on July 26, 2006

I thought it was a great question with some great answers. I honestly can't see the problem.
posted by Clay201 at 6:27 AM on July 26, 2006

To sjvilla79: I thought I should apologize publicly since I called you out publicly.

Yes, that is relevant that it's your own post you're talking about. No, I wasn't having a bad day, but I was being drunk and an ass. It's inappropriate behavior and I'll make an effort to avoid repeating it. I'm sorry.
posted by Tuwa at 6:58 AM on July 26, 2006

You should have asked about zombie recipes.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 6:59 AM on July 26, 2006

Good on ya, Tuwa. And those of us not invested in either side of the conflict get to enjoy a bit of drunken assery, so it's pretty much win-win.
posted by cortex at 7:02 AM on July 26, 2006

I enjoyed a bit of drunken assery last night. With your mom!
posted by ND¢ at 7:05 AM on July 26, 2006

But—but my mom is If I Had An Anus!
posted by cortex at 7:14 AM on July 26, 2006

*sends cortex to his room*
*unlocks backdoor for ND¢*
posted by If I Had An Anus at 7:48 AM on July 26, 2006

!

*slams door*

I hate you! I wish you weren't my mom! I wish I was dead!
posted by cortex at 7:52 AM on July 26, 2006

If I Had A Back Door
posted by NinjaTadpole at 7:52 AM on July 26, 2006

sjvilla, if it helps -- a while back somebody asked a peanutbutter-centric version of your question.
posted by contessa at 8:00 AM on July 26, 2006

Perhaps we should distinguish between bad and good chatfilter. I support the no-chatfilter regime but sometimes it seems too strict and simplistic. The question doesn't meet the "concrete problem" criteria but it does possess a high-level of specificity which allows for meaningful answers and it's much more interesting and much less chatty than the prototypically evil 'what's your favorite color?'. There are a group of poll-ish questions that are interesting, specific, and particularly vulnerable to the vast anecdotal wisdom of the green. Some of the best questions of the past take this form e.g. (off the top of my head) the most important thing your father taught you and the classic most meaningful childhood experience. I'd support letting these questions slide even if there's no "concrete problem" to be solved. Really good chatty questions are fine, it's the banal ones that are a waste of precious time and space. Yes, it's a slippery slope but not every slippery slope inevitably leads to roasting Jews. In fact, most just lead to puddles.
posted by nixerman at 8:38 AM on July 26, 2006

Puddles of Jews?
posted by klangklangston at 9:34 AM on July 26, 2006

Just one more example of the man (or in this case, the woman) trying to keep the food-centric down. Attica! Attica!

..or some such [wiki] nonsense^..
posted by blue_beetle at 10:23 AM on July 26, 2006

I'll remember to bullshit the next time I post anything that might be wrongly classed on AskMe. No problem though Tuwa and Jessamyn. Let us move on.
posted by sjvilla79 at 3:45 PM on July 26, 2006

Instead of bullshitting, maybe you could just explain what the purpose is behind your chattier seeming questions. It's a pretty low bar.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 3:54 PM on July 26, 2006 [1 favorite]

Bullshitting would probably be easier given the current set of regulations imposed. Cheers.
posted by sjvilla79 at 4:24 PM on July 26, 2006

Or you could act like a big baby. That works too.
posted by bob sarabia at 5:50 PM on July 26, 2006

dick.
posted by mds35 at 6:03 PM on July 26, 2006

in.
posted by mds35 at 7:41 PM on July 26, 2006

oven.
posted by mds35 at 7:41 PM on July 26, 2006

yeh? i prefer vegemite on raisin toast.
posted by UbuRoivas at 7:48 PM on July 26, 2006

"Look, it's not important, ok? I just want you to know how dumb I think this is. Yea, I'm over it. But it's pretty dumb, ok? I SAID, I don't care any more! Ok? I don't care about how dumb your dumb regulations are! Geez, why are you still talking about this?"
posted by jacalata at 8:15 PM on July 26, 2006

Last post.
posted by dersins at 9:08 PM on August 25, 2006