Is the Metafilter writer's group dead? October 9, 2006 7:09 AM Subscribe
I guess the Metafilter writer's group is dead? I don't see any updates from the past two months.
There's a MetaFilter writer's group?
posted by loquacious at 7:42 AM on October 9, 2006
posted by loquacious at 7:42 AM on October 9, 2006
I showed up to the group late, but even by the time I was there folks hadn't established any set guidelines. it was never clear how frequently one was expected to participate, nor how frequently the topic would change. there wasn't a good system of suggesting topics. the format of entries wasn't completely hammered down (poetry? longer short fiction? etc.) and there was only a tenuous consensus on piece length. also, I observed much hand-wringing about participation levels--a la AskMe--where it seemed folks had no problem pumping text out to be reviewed but came all stopped up in regards to critiquing others' pieces.
I imagine these are all issues that would have to be addressed should one look to resurrect the MeFi Writer's Group. but 2 months? I think I dropped out more than a few months ago, so things might have changed. anyway, I'm not complaining, just pointing out issues I had with the group. it was really fun (and delightfully nerve-wracking) while I was participating.
posted by carsonb at 8:07 AM on October 9, 2006
I imagine these are all issues that would have to be addressed should one look to resurrect the MeFi Writer's Group. but 2 months? I think I dropped out more than a few months ago, so things might have changed. anyway, I'm not complaining, just pointing out issues I had with the group. it was really fun (and delightfully nerve-wracking) while I was participating.
posted by carsonb at 8:07 AM on October 9, 2006
No one posted any stories for two rounds of themes (I think), so I, um, kind of forgot all about it and didn't post a new batch of themes on 8th September when they were due, and none of the other admins did either. Sorry about that. I think with so few members it didn't take much for it to grind to a halt, and I didn't really know how to keep it moving if no one was posting (including me, admittedly!)
carsonb - all those things werecompletly quite fairly clear ;-) At the beginning of each month four themes (suggested by users in an open thread) were posted with a deadline for each theme, users being free to choose as many themes as they liked to write ~500 words of prose on. You're right that no one commented much on each others work, though - dunno why, nor how to encourage more comments.
Anyway, if anyone still fancies the idea of a writers group and has a better idea of how it should work, the site is there and I'd be happy to fix/change/abandon it and start all over again...
posted by jack_mo at 9:42 AM on October 9, 2006
carsonb - all those things were
Anyway, if anyone still fancies the idea of a writers group and has a better idea of how it should work, the site is there and I'd be happy to fix/change/abandon it and start all over again...
posted by jack_mo at 9:42 AM on October 9, 2006
FWIW, I think the original idea of short fiction on a new theme each week with a strict deadline (plus a 'Projects' area for other kinds of writing) would've worked better, but some folk weren't keen - the compromise is maybe what made it hard to follow?
posted by jack_mo at 9:45 AM on October 9, 2006
posted by jack_mo at 9:45 AM on October 9, 2006
I did the first week, enjoyed writing the piece, enjoyed receiving and giving feedback, and then promptly ran off after a shiny object that grabbed my attention rather than coming back to do the second week. But that's just how I roll, not a reflection on the way the group was set up.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 11:39 AM on October 9, 2006
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 11:39 AM on October 9, 2006
While we're on the topic of writing, anyone doing NaNoWriMo this year?
posted by dobbs at 12:14 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by dobbs at 12:14 PM on October 9, 2006
I am interested in resurrecting it, and may put some work into it, but I can't so right now -- to much other stuff in the works.
I agree that the "rules" were too undefined.
I think you should get one free post, and then after that, you should only be allowed to post subsequent stories is you do your part and review other people's stories. This should be fairly easy to code. Of course, people might balk at this idea and not participate. But if they balk at reviewing other people's work, they they aren't participating anway.
The site REALLY needs an easier-to-remember URL, like mefiwritinggroup.com.
posted by grumblebee at 12:16 PM on October 9, 2006
I agree that the "rules" were too undefined.
I think you should get one free post, and then after that, you should only be allowed to post subsequent stories is you do your part and review other people's stories. This should be fairly easy to code. Of course, people might balk at this idea and not participate. But if they balk at reviewing other people's work, they they aren't participating anway.
The site REALLY needs an easier-to-remember URL, like mefiwritinggroup.com.
posted by grumblebee at 12:16 PM on October 9, 2006
While we're on the topic of writing, anyone doing NaNoWriMo this year?
*twitches*
No. I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. No. No.
posted by cortex at 12:16 PM on October 9, 2006
*twitches*
No. I shouldn't. I really shouldn't. No. No.
posted by cortex at 12:16 PM on October 9, 2006
I was thinking about this some more, and I suspect it will only be successful if it extends beyond the MeFi community. MeFi has a lot of members, but of those members, only a small fraction will be interested in participating in this. But I believe that there are plenty of people on the web who love to be part of a site like this.
It's vital that there's a large group of participants -- how many needed? I don't know -- because it's inevitable that, with a small group, some members will get busy and not be able to contribute (at least for a while). There there have to be enough members so that, say, 50% of them can be gone at any given time and the site still stays vibrant.
posted by grumblebee at 12:48 PM on October 9, 2006
It's vital that there's a large group of participants -- how many needed? I don't know -- because it's inevitable that, with a small group, some members will get busy and not be able to contribute (at least for a while). There there have to be enough members so that, say, 50% of them can be gone at any given time and the site still stays vibrant.
posted by grumblebee at 12:48 PM on October 9, 2006
I didn't know about NaNoWriMo until just now, but as I ate a really spicy meal before bed the other night, and dreamed up a great Tom-Clancyish novel idea as a result, I have now signed up. Look for Order of Succession by ND¢ to hit bookstores inside my computer on November 31st.
Will the evil vice-president and his cabal of evil administration officials be able to kill the non-evil newly appointed president before his former squadron of (also non-evil) Iraq war vets can reach him while he is trapped inside the oval office and save him? Find out November 31st!
That's Order of Succession, November 31st. This time the order is... SURVIVE!
posted by ND¢ at 1:13 PM on October 9, 2006
Will the evil vice-president and his cabal of evil administration officials be able to kill the non-evil newly appointed president before his former squadron of (also non-evil) Iraq war vets can reach him while he is trapped inside the oval office and save him? Find out November 31st!
That's Order of Succession, November 31st. This time the order is... SURVIVE!
posted by ND¢ at 1:13 PM on October 9, 2006
Too many "November 31st" 's, ND¢. One might have gotten a rise out of someone, but three is just too much.
But I'm still looking forward to Order of Succession.
posted by dersins at 1:23 PM on October 9, 2006
But I'm still looking forward to Order of Succession.
posted by dersins at 1:23 PM on October 9, 2006
Oh crap. There are only 30 days in November. I think that it is totally stupid that months have different numbers of days. What the hell is that all about? Simple solution: one year has 100 days, each month is ten days, ten months a year. Easy Peasy. This is the level of research and creative thinking that I will bring to Order of Succession.
Order of Succession, now coming November 30th. You have one less day... to SURVIVE!
posted by ND¢ at 1:36 PM on October 9, 2006
Order of Succession, now coming November 30th. You have one less day... to SURVIVE!
posted by ND¢ at 1:36 PM on October 9, 2006
grumblebee-- i think a large part of the problem is that writers and readers tend to be very genre focuses, and getting a critical mass of people interested enough in all kinds of fiction to give coherent critiques might be hard.
posted by empath at 2:06 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by empath at 2:06 PM on October 9, 2006
While we're on the topic of writing, anyone doing NaNoWriMo this year?
I intend to, every year (the last 2 anyway), but never quite make it. Its usually a boy's fault. Stupid boys.
posted by echo0720 at 2:13 PM on October 9, 2006
I intend to, every year (the last 2 anyway), but never quite make it. Its usually a boy's fault. Stupid boys.
posted by echo0720 at 2:13 PM on October 9, 2006
Same with me, echo0720. Except in my case the boy is always me.
posted by brundlefly at 2:53 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by brundlefly at 2:53 PM on October 9, 2006
Never finish, or never start? I'm 1/5 finishing, but I've got about 90K words to show for the failures.
posted by cortex at 2:54 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by cortex at 2:54 PM on October 9, 2006
I completely forgot about NaNoWriMo...I think I'm up for it this year, especially since I haven't killed myself with anything really long in a while.
I'll always remember November as the month, in alternate years, that Mr Earbrass from The Unsung Harp chooses to begin "his new novel".
posted by ducksauce at 3:02 PM on October 9, 2006
I'll always remember November as the month, in alternate years, that Mr Earbrass from The Unsung Harp chooses to begin "his new novel".
posted by ducksauce at 3:02 PM on October 9, 2006
grumblebee-- i think a large part of the problem is that writers and readers tend to be very genre focuses, and getting a critical mass of people interested enough in all kinds of fiction to give coherent critiques might be hard.
I can only speak to my vision of the project, but I never saw it as a place to post stories and get critiques (and I wouldn't want to build a site like that). I saw it as a place to post SHORT writing samples (based around some theme), maybe 500 words max. And then to get critiques.
The point of it would be to improve one's writing style -- not to get help on a specific story.
posted by grumblebee at 3:15 PM on October 9, 2006
I can only speak to my vision of the project, but I never saw it as a place to post stories and get critiques (and I wouldn't want to build a site like that). I saw it as a place to post SHORT writing samples (based around some theme), maybe 500 words max. And then to get critiques.
The point of it would be to improve one's writing style -- not to get help on a specific story.
posted by grumblebee at 3:15 PM on October 9, 2006
Never finish, or never start?
I always start and hit my target number of words for the first week or so, and then I get tired, or bored, or preoccupied (see above comment about boys) and it slowly tapers down to nothing...
If you guys start up the writer's group again, though, I'd be interested in joining. Short stories are much more manageable than mini-novels.
posted by echo0720 at 3:25 PM on October 9, 2006
I always start and hit my target number of words for the first week or so, and then I get tired, or bored, or preoccupied (see above comment about boys) and it slowly tapers down to nothing...
If you guys start up the writer's group again, though, I'd be interested in joining. Short stories are much more manageable than mini-novels.
posted by echo0720 at 3:25 PM on October 9, 2006
My biggest problem with NaNoWriMo is that the name "NaNoWriMo" makes me want to chuck. My biggest problem with the MetaFilter Writer's Group was that I forgot about it within seconds of hearing about it. My second biggest problem with the MetaFilter Writer's Group was that I'm too lazy and easily distracted to
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:26 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 3:26 PM on October 9, 2006
Yeah, I'm having a stupid day and didn't actually get that it was a joke until too late. Go ahead and yell at me some more.
posted by echo0720 at 3:41 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by echo0720 at 3:41 PM on October 9, 2006
I almost wrote a couple short stories on the first theme, but they weren't very good.
posted by delmoi at 3:49 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by delmoi at 3:49 PM on October 9, 2006
It's all good. I was actually yelling at the whole class.
posted by cortex at 4:00 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by cortex at 4:00 PM on October 9, 2006
I did round one of MeFi Writers Group and then happily forgot about it.
I'll probably try to do NaNoWriMo this year but I doubt that I'll finish. I participated last year too but I don't have a novel to show for it. :-(
posted by sveskemus at 4:15 PM on October 9, 2006
I'll probably try to do NaNoWriMo this year but I doubt that I'll finish. I participated last year too but I don't have a novel to show for it. :-(
posted by sveskemus at 4:15 PM on October 9, 2006
I was really excited about it, but I have so little time that I can't even write a song for MuFi that has actual "words/lyrics".
posted by snsranch at 4:40 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by snsranch at 4:40 PM on October 9, 2006
I don't like the idea of themes at all. I don't see the point unless it's a competition, which it ain't (or if it is, no one told me--and what are the prizes?!).
I would much rather a weekly deadine to submit whatever you wish (perhaps with a word count max--but no min) and have it evaluated by my peers. My thinking is that if you need someone to give you a theme, you ain't much of a writer and you're wasting my time (don't kill me)--that, and, why should I spend my time on a theme when I only have so much writing time available and have my own projects (which I'd love feedback on) to concentrate on.
This is why, when the group was "active", I submitted a few theme ideas but didn't submit any work. ;)
posted by dobbs at 4:52 PM on October 9, 2006
I would much rather a weekly deadine to submit whatever you wish (perhaps with a word count max--but no min) and have it evaluated by my peers. My thinking is that if you need someone to give you a theme, you ain't much of a writer and you're wasting my time (don't kill me)--that, and, why should I spend my time on a theme when I only have so much writing time available and have my own projects (which I'd love feedback on) to concentrate on.
This is why, when the group was "active", I submitted a few theme ideas but didn't submit any work. ;)
posted by dobbs at 4:52 PM on October 9, 2006
This Is Just to Say
I have raped
the pony
that was
the MetaFilter Writer's Group
and which
you were probably
training
for equinimity
Forgive me
I rode your high horse
down a low, low road
so sweet
and covered with ticks
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:39 PM on October 9, 2006 [1 favorite]
I have raped
the pony
that was
the MetaFilter Writer's Group
and which
you were probably
training
for equinimity
Forgive me
I rode your high horse
down a low, low road
so sweet
and covered with ticks
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 5:39 PM on October 9, 2006 [1 favorite]
Because I'm too lazy to click on the projects link, can someone post an example or two of what some of the themes were?
posted by echo0720 at 5:42 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by echo0720 at 5:42 PM on October 9, 2006
I was excited about it, too, but I think lack of feedback might have turned a lot of people off. Personally, I think once a week was a bit much, as well.
As for the NaNo talk, take it here. My grey to blue post ratio is getting all fucked up today.
posted by absalom at 7:46 PM on October 9, 2006
As for the NaNo talk, take it here. My grey to blue post ratio is getting all fucked up today.
posted by absalom at 7:46 PM on October 9, 2006
I posted the NatMo post, but this is the first I've heard about the writer's group. It's too bad that it's been raped and murdered. Is there any hope?
posted by owhydididoit at 8:06 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by owhydididoit at 8:06 PM on October 9, 2006
I think the theme thing could help provide focus if you're going for overall improvement of writing skills, rather than targetted workshopping of things the writer is otherwise interested in. Writing exercises can actually be useful.
That said, I think both a theme and an expectation that you're submitting just tiny samples of nothing in particular is too limiting. Either let people submit full short stories on the theme so that they're getting normal process on perhaps unusual subjects. Or let them write specific types of pieces on whatever topic they want. But both limits makes it far too likely that the assignment is neither interesting nor useful.
posted by jacquilynne at 8:48 PM on October 9, 2006
That said, I think both a theme and an expectation that you're submitting just tiny samples of nothing in particular is too limiting. Either let people submit full short stories on the theme so that they're getting normal process on perhaps unusual subjects. Or let them write specific types of pieces on whatever topic they want. But both limits makes it far too likely that the assignment is neither interesting nor useful.
posted by jacquilynne at 8:48 PM on October 9, 2006
I reckon a blog interface is too confining somehow. iIwould love to see a MeFi like interface for a writer's group.
posted by dhruva at 8:53 PM on October 9, 2006
posted by dhruva at 8:53 PM on October 9, 2006
I reckon a blog interface is too confining somehow.
Yeah, and as grumblebee says, some sort of system where a certain level of commenting is required to post might be good - I don't know how to make websites beyond low-level monkeying with MT or Wordpress, but if someone who does wants to make something more suited to a writing group, I can give them the keys to my hosting and get a domain name.
Iwould love to see a MeFi like interface for a writer's group.
How do you mean? MeFi is a blog interface, isn't it?
I think both a theme and an expectation that you're submitting just tiny samples of nothing in particular is too limiting.
Definitely - the fun/practice side provided by themes or specific excersises should be one half of a site like this, with a much looser half for folk to get feedback on stuff they're working on, and would be whether the site was there or not (which was there on the old site, but unused).
posted by jack_mo at 2:30 AM on October 10, 2006
Yeah, and as grumblebee says, some sort of system where a certain level of commenting is required to post might be good - I don't know how to make websites beyond low-level monkeying with MT or Wordpress, but if someone who does wants to make something more suited to a writing group, I can give them the keys to my hosting and get a domain name.
Iwould love to see a MeFi like interface for a writer's group.
How do you mean? MeFi is a blog interface, isn't it?
I think both a theme and an expectation that you're submitting just tiny samples of nothing in particular is too limiting.
Definitely - the fun/practice side provided by themes or specific excersises should be one half of a site like this, with a much looser half for folk to get feedback on stuff they're working on, and would be whether the site was there or not (which was there on the old site, but unused).
posted by jack_mo at 2:30 AM on October 10, 2006
It just occured to me that the blue is basically a never ending writer's workshop for very, very, very, very short writing samples.
For some reason, people there have absolutely no problem critiquing every minute detail of every post :)
posted by empath at 6:24 AM on October 10, 2006
For some reason, people there have absolutely no problem critiquing every minute detail of every post :)
posted by empath at 6:24 AM on October 10, 2006
I think a required ratio of posts/reviews is a good idea for a writer's group.
posted by owhydididoit at 8:28 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by owhydididoit at 8:28 AM on October 10, 2006
I would be more worried about people who don't contribute anything but criticism, as opposed to the opposite... people who do lotsa stories and few critiques. In any case, if you (plural you - aka youse in Philadelphia) can make it work, let me know and I'll abide by whatever insanely restrictive and byzantine procedures you saddle me with.
posted by Mister_A at 8:49 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by Mister_A at 8:49 AM on October 10, 2006
I'm totally doing MeFiWriGro this year.
Seriously, I'd love to see this happen. Some of us have more time on our hands than good sense.
posted by hermitosis at 9:01 AM on October 10, 2006
Seriously, I'd love to see this happen. Some of us have more time on our hands than good sense.
posted by hermitosis at 9:01 AM on October 10, 2006
I would be more worried about people who don't contribute anything but criticism, as opposed to the opposite... people who do lotsa stories and few critiques.
Well, it depends on what you're trying to build. Is it a MeFi Collaborative Short Writing Blog? Because then, yes, plenty of posts and more commentary than criticism—our own little McSweeneys, as it were.
If the idea is a workgroup, though, for folks to actually work with each other on writing technique and skills and execution and so forth, the criticism is the necessary component. If I want to post my writing and not get any feedback, I've got my own website, neh?
posted by cortex at 9:15 AM on October 10, 2006
Well, it depends on what you're trying to build. Is it a MeFi Collaborative Short Writing Blog? Because then, yes, plenty of posts and more commentary than criticism—our own little McSweeneys, as it were.
If the idea is a workgroup, though, for folks to actually work with each other on writing technique and skills and execution and so forth, the criticism is the necessary component. If I want to post my writing and not get any feedback, I've got my own website, neh?
posted by cortex at 9:15 AM on October 10, 2006
My thinking is that if you need someone to give you a theme, you ain't much of a writer...
Nobody "needed" to be given themes. The purpose of the group was ostensibly to improve everyone's writing skills through the use of thematic assignments — otherwise known as etudes.
posted by cribcage at 9:20 AM on October 10, 2006
Nobody "needed" to be given themes. The purpose of the group was ostensibly to improve everyone's writing skills through the use of thematic assignments — otherwise known as etudes.
posted by cribcage at 9:20 AM on October 10, 2006
et tu, dudes?
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:20 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 9:20 AM on October 10, 2006
How do you guys feel about using vox.com for this?
We could just make fiction blogs and friend each other. Then when you go to the 'read' page, you'll see all of our latest contributions and will be able to comment on them.
posted by empath at 10:47 AM on October 10, 2006
We could just make fiction blogs and friend each other. Then when you go to the 'read' page, you'll see all of our latest contributions and will be able to comment on them.
posted by empath at 10:47 AM on October 10, 2006
I could go for vox. Although doesn't that get loosey-goosey unless we use our profile exclusively for this? What with other friends and all.
posted by hermitosis at 10:56 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by hermitosis at 10:56 AM on October 10, 2006
OTHER FRIENDS?!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:57 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:57 AM on October 10, 2006
I'd hit it both ways -- writing and commenting. Haven't done a lot of either in the fiction genre since college, but enjoyed both of those classes so much that I'd sneak copies out of the OTHER classes just for the reading and stored them in a binder but some of them were just so good like there was this one where everybody started out deaf and went hearing or this one where everyone ended up turning to particles after this guy figured out he could talk to them. Obviously I need to read Projects more.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 11:08 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by Ogre Lawless at 11:08 AM on October 10, 2006
Clannish single-purpose vox blogs—separate from your general purpose vox blog if'n you have one. mefiwri_cortex, mefiwri_IRFH. Common prefix, distinct social subnetwork. Hooah!
posted by cortex at 11:12 AM on October 10, 2006
posted by cortex at 11:12 AM on October 10, 2006
It would be nice if vox had more neighbor categories than 'friends' and 'family'.
Does someone want to start a new metatalk thread to announce it? The other thing you can do besides friends as tag all posts MeFiWriGro and subscribe to that feed.
posted by empath at 11:16 AM on October 10, 2006
Does someone want to start a new metatalk thread to announce it? The other thing you can do besides friends as tag all posts MeFiWriGro and subscribe to that feed.
posted by empath at 11:16 AM on October 10, 2006
I don't have other friends on vox, it's very lonely. Please be my vox-friends mefiwrigro members...
posted by echo0720 at 2:35 PM on October 10, 2006
posted by echo0720 at 2:35 PM on October 10, 2006
I'll start a new thread on friday about it if no-one else does before then.
posted by empath at 2:44 PM on October 10, 2006
posted by empath at 2:44 PM on October 10, 2006
The vox thing sounds intriguing. I was one of the folks all for the original writers group but never actually... you know... posted anything. I'm willing to give it another shot!
posted by brundlefly at 5:34 PM on October 10, 2006
posted by brundlefly at 5:34 PM on October 10, 2006
I liked the idea of a writer's group but not given themes. How about just general guidelines for submission, compile the submissions and publish them journal-style every week or month or so, weeding out the obvious duds? You could appoint a board of editors who might review the submissions and choose the best ones. Allow for original art, comments and favoriting. Think of it as a digital version of a literary journal, one made up of the wickedly smart Metafilter community.
The current interface is nasty - it doesn't open my mind to reading fiction that isn't Tolstoy. Make one that looks like an online magazine, colorful and inviting. I'll help any way I can. (My own site is The Plow That Turns Up Time, a recent MeFi Project reject. :( )
Anyway, I hope something gets made of it, it's a great idea.
posted by bukharin at 8:35 PM on October 10, 2006
a recent MeFi Project reject
When did you submit it? And did you get a rejection letter?
posted by cortex at 9:15 PM on October 10, 2006
When did you submit it? And did you get a rejection letter?
posted by cortex at 9:15 PM on October 10, 2006
I actually like the idea of themes, and have found it to be pretty useful in the past as far as priming the pump. Some people work better with an assignment. It also sort of levels the playing field a little.
And I'm sort of anti choosing the best ones. I don't want to feel like I'm writing to impress a couple of specific people. I actually don't want to write like I'm trying to impress anyone, and that's hard enough.
But whatever. I'm in.
posted by hermitosis at 10:24 PM on October 10, 2006
And I'm sort of anti choosing the best ones. I don't want to feel like I'm writing to impress a couple of specific people. I actually don't want to write like I'm trying to impress anyone, and that's hard enough.
But whatever. I'm in.
posted by hermitosis at 10:24 PM on October 10, 2006
Interlocking Vox pages seems a good plan, though I don't understand how we'd all find each other in order to add each other to our 'neighbourhoods' - unless I'm missing a Flickr-style groups feature over there?
posted by jack_mo at 5:29 AM on October 11, 2006
posted by jack_mo at 5:29 AM on October 11, 2006
So on Vox, we should add mefiwrigro to our interests?
posted by owhydididoit at 8:15 AM on October 11, 2006
posted by owhydididoit at 8:15 AM on October 11, 2006
Looks like you need to wait for an invite to get on vox.
posted by ejaned8 at 11:49 AM on October 12, 2006
posted by ejaned8 at 11:49 AM on October 12, 2006
Looks like you need to wait for an invite to get on vox.
And it's SO hard to get an invite to vox if you're a mefite.
posted by echo0720 at 2:01 PM on October 12, 2006
And it's SO hard to get an invite to vox if you're a mefite.
posted by echo0720 at 2:01 PM on October 12, 2006
ejaned8: metafilter has a load of invites to vox, as a sort of promotional deal. just click the ad under the sidebar on the main page. then you can bitch about the ads existence here on meta a coupla threads up.
posted by carsonb at 3:30 PM on October 12, 2006
posted by carsonb at 3:30 PM on October 12, 2006
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posted by carsonb at 7:29 AM on October 9, 2006