"Post with Comment"? April 30, 2001 2:13 PM Subscribe
A "Post with Comment" feature, which enables you to post a link *and* the first comment in a thread at the same time.
When I want to do that, what I do is compose the comment first in Wordpad, then create the initial post, then pop in and create the first comment and cut-and-paste. Time delay is about ten seconds.
posted by Steven Den Beste at 3:40 PM on April 30, 2001
posted by Steven Den Beste at 3:40 PM on April 30, 2001
Exactly, Steve. I don't see why that it's a problem for others?
posted by john at 4:05 PM on April 30, 2001
posted by john at 4:05 PM on April 30, 2001
Beating the original poster to a second comment when "more..." is specified is rapidly becoming MeFi's "me too".
posted by jkottke at 4:47 PM on April 30, 2001
posted by jkottke at 4:47 PM on April 30, 2001
Don't you think you're being a bit of a spoil-sport, rcade?
Grabbing first comment has become something of a competitive sport at Mefi.
Rather than sitting there in the text box composing your next opus, try writing your post up in a word processor first and then making two posts in rapid succession.
If you still get beaten then, well, I think you've just got to hand it to the other poster for being quick off the mark.
posted by lagado at 5:17 PM on April 30, 2001
Grabbing first comment has become something of a competitive sport at Mefi.
Rather than sitting there in the text box composing your next opus, try writing your post up in a word processor first and then making two posts in rapid succession.
If you still get beaten then, well, I think you've just got to hand it to the other poster for being quick off the mark.
posted by lagado at 5:17 PM on April 30, 2001
I don't know, I have a tendency to compose & recompose my comments so they're "just right" while I'm in the little text box on MeFi. I like to hit preview & see how it's going to look on the page, read through it, see how I could better formulate it, preview again, repeat ad naseum, and I think this would be hard to do with a cut & paste job.
I don't understand why people will see a post with a (more..) on it and not just wait for the original author to finish his thought. As opposed to the "me too" I'd say it's more like the problem that's always plagued Slashdot with "first post" (or "f1r57 p057!@$#"...) with people saying "Hey, I beat the guy, aren't I cool?" Including something like that in the posting code might help reduce the number of overly long front page posts, too, because people who don't know any better might take the hint that they should split their novel-length post up a bit.
posted by zempf at 5:19 PM on April 30, 2001
I don't understand why people will see a post with a (more..) on it and not just wait for the original author to finish his thought. As opposed to the "me too" I'd say it's more like the problem that's always plagued Slashdot with "first post" (or "f1r57 p057!@$#"...) with people saying "Hey, I beat the guy, aren't I cool?" Including something like that in the posting code might help reduce the number of overly long front page posts, too, because people who don't know any better might take the hint that they should split their novel-length post up a bit.
posted by zempf at 5:19 PM on April 30, 2001
Don't you think you're being a bit of a spoil-sport, rcade?
I don't make it a practice of posting first in a link I start. However, I like to keep links reasonably short, so there are times it would be nice to compose a link and a longer explanatory first post at the same time.
One of the reasons I suggested it here was to cut down on the "beat you to it" gags, which don't get a thread off to a rousing start (no offense, sonofsamiam).
posted by rcade at 6:01 PM on April 30, 2001
I don't make it a practice of posting first in a link I start. However, I like to keep links reasonably short, so there are times it would be nice to compose a link and a longer explanatory first post at the same time.
One of the reasons I suggested it here was to cut down on the "beat you to it" gags, which don't get a thread off to a rousing start (no offense, sonofsamiam).
posted by rcade at 6:01 PM on April 30, 2001
Beating the original poster to a second comment when "more..." is specified is rapidly becoming MeFi's "me too".
It seems like a "first post!" to me.
How about a general guideline that if people are going to post a [more] link, they prepare their comment in advance?
There are obvious programming constraints (how to post a thread and at the same time, bind a comment to it in the database, but not until the thread makes it into the db and gets an appropriate ID) but like anything new, there are interface issues. Could you imagine what a new post+comment page would look like, with previewing, spellchecking, and old thread double-post lookup? It'd be a page of several form elements for the thread, and one big comment form below that. It could be button and form hell.
People don't do this too often, and since the point is for them to inject their opinion to get things rolling, I'd suggest people take extra time before posting to compose their comment, and follow the thread immediately.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:16 PM on April 30, 2001
It seems like a "first post!" to me.
How about a general guideline that if people are going to post a [more] link, they prepare their comment in advance?
There are obvious programming constraints (how to post a thread and at the same time, bind a comment to it in the database, but not until the thread makes it into the db and gets an appropriate ID) but like anything new, there are interface issues. Could you imagine what a new post+comment page would look like, with previewing, spellchecking, and old thread double-post lookup? It'd be a page of several form elements for the thread, and one big comment form below that. It could be button and form hell.
People don't do this too often, and since the point is for them to inject their opinion to get things rolling, I'd suggest people take extra time before posting to compose their comment, and follow the thread immediately.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:16 PM on April 30, 2001
I don't get the whole quick-post competition. How much time do people spend staring at Metafilter?
I saw a Metatalk thread yesterday that had at least a dozen comments by the same person in one afternoon -- one person posts, Guy A replies, another person posts, Guy A pops in again.
I check in once a day, in the morning. On occasion I stop in later in the afternoon if I'm really curious about a thread. That's about it, though. Am I missing something?
posted by werty at 7:32 AM on May 1, 2001
I saw a Metatalk thread yesterday that had at least a dozen comments by the same person in one afternoon -- one person posts, Guy A replies, another person posts, Guy A pops in again.
I check in once a day, in the morning. On occasion I stop in later in the afternoon if I'm really curious about a thread. That's about it, though. Am I missing something?
posted by werty at 7:32 AM on May 1, 2001
Only the fact that some people are more involved than that. And some people check in every week or so, or even less often. I don't think there's any special cachet attached to being a frequent poster.
I think the "first post" thing really *isn't* like Slashdot, if only because we've got Slashdot as a negative example. The first couple times it was funny, the next couple less funny, and I think people here have the good sense not to beat a dead horse. It's when it happens by accident, like in yesterday's thread, where people didn't know there was an explanation coming, that it can cause a problem.
posted by rodii at 9:18 AM on May 1, 2001
I think the "first post" thing really *isn't* like Slashdot, if only because we've got Slashdot as a negative example. The first couple times it was funny, the next couple less funny, and I think people here have the good sense not to beat a dead horse. It's when it happens by accident, like in yesterday's thread, where people didn't know there was an explanation coming, that it can cause a problem.
posted by rodii at 9:18 AM on May 1, 2001
It's happens but most people disregard this kind of thing so I don't think it blows the discussion too far off course.
posted by lagado at 7:09 PM on May 1, 2001
posted by lagado at 7:09 PM on May 1, 2001
another good way to do this without additional code would be to include (more inside) in the front page post. then the reader knows there's more to come, even if people jump in quickly.
posted by Sean Meade at 8:38 AM on May 2, 2001
posted by Sean Meade at 8:38 AM on May 2, 2001
Never bothered me, even when I was the writer. I'd rather move my commentary inside than clutter the front page with a long 'graph.
posted by dhartung at 9:17 AM on May 2, 2001
posted by dhartung at 9:17 AM on May 2, 2001
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posted by sonofsamiam at 3:24 PM on April 30, 2001